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| Not to beat a dead horse as I know this has been discussed several times on here, but we are looking to put my 25 year old, retired gelding on a senior/complete-type feed. He has never been an "easy keeper" and just started to really show his age throughout his hips and topline. He can still eat hay but does not digest or utilize it like he used to.
What is your opinion/has been your experience with both Purina and Nutrena's senior feeds? We had an older gelding on Purina Senior for several years before passing away in 2013. He seemed to do well on it... I am not a fan of Strategy but have had good luck with Safe Choice so I was curious about Nutrena's senior line?
I am aware of the issues/concerns with processed feeds, but my options are rather limited (as far as I know) here in NE Kansas. There is a local mill that I'm sure would work with me in regards to creating a custom blend, but I don't know where to start as far as ingredients if I were to go that route.
For an older horse, what kind of custom blend would you create, or have you had good luck with?
Thanks in advance!
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Location: sunny california | i fed my senior horse a mix of rice bran, soy bean meal pellets and oats. she could not eat hay so she ate soaked alfafa/bermuda pellets. she was very healthy on this diet and fat! she was a hard keeper her whole life having a lot of tb in her and a very high metabolism. |
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| Purina senior has never failed me & my seniors ! I've seen it bring back skinny horses more times than I can count. I have before & after of a mare I recently got. Skin & bones .. Within 45-50 days on 10 lbs a day & grass hay , you wouldn't even believe the weight she put on . |
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| Triple Crown used to be my favorite but Nutrena makes feed for them now. Not a fan. Of the ones you listed, PURINA makes their feeds in a cattle feed free mill. SO that would be my choice if that's all I had. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Purina Senior is a good solid feed. You can feed quite a bit of it and soak it to. Its also a complete feed meaning if they can't chew hay anymore they can get by on just senior. There's also a senior kibble that's not bad. |
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Location: Arkansas | I can't say enough good things about Purina Sr Active. My 36 year old gelding is on it, along with beet pulp and he looks wonderful. It has beet pulp in it, but we add extra to his feedings since he can't eat hay anymore.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-23 6:43 PM I can't say enough good things about Purina Sr Active. My 32 year old gelding is on it, along with beet pulp and he looks wonderful. It has beet pulp in it, but we add extra to his feedings since he can't eat hay anymore.
I agree. If you have to go with a bagged type feed. I don't think you can beat the Purina Active Senior. It has higher fat than any other I have found and none of my senior horses are overly active, but they still need that fat to stay looking good. |
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Location: Arkansas | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-12-23 7:59 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-23 6:43 PM I can't say enough good things about Purina Sr Active. My 36 year old gelding is on it, along with beet pulp and he looks wonderful. It has beet pulp in it, but we add extra to his feedings since he can't eat hay anymore.
I agree. If you have to go with a bagged type feed. I don't think you can beat the Purina Active Senior. It has higher fat than any other I have found and none of my senior horses are overly active, but they still need that fat to stay looking good.
Yep, that exactly!
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2015-12-23 7:59 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-23 6:43 PM I can't say enough good things about Purina Sr Active. My 32 year old gelding is on it, along with beet pulp and he looks wonderful. It has beet pulp in it, but we add extra to his feedings since he can't eat hay anymore.
I agree. If you have to go with a bagged type feed. I don't think you can beat the Purina Active Senior. It has higher fat than any other I have found and none of my senior horses are overly active, but they still need that fat to stay looking good.
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Location: CTX | Two Nickles - 2015-12-24 8:19 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-12-23 7:59 PM Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-23 6:43 PM I can't say enough good things about Purina Sr Active. My 32 year old gelding is on it, along with beet pulp and he looks wonderful. It has beet pulp in it, but we add extra to his feedings since he can't eat hay anymore. I agree. If you have to go with a bagged type feed. I don't think you can beat the Purina Active Senior. It has higher fat than any other I have found and none of my senior horses are overly active, but they still need that fat to stay looking good. Why would you choose Purina over Nutrena?
Purina comes from ionophore free facilities, Nutrena not.
Just do a search on ionophores on this site, and you will stay far far away from it if you like your horses. |
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| cranky B4 10am - 2015-12-24 8:24 AM
Two Nickles - 2015-12-24 8:19 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-12-23 7:59 PM Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-23 6:43 PM I can't say enough good things about Purina Sr Active. My 32 year old gelding is on it, along with beet pulp and he looks wonderful. It has beet pulp in it, but we add extra to his feedings since he can't eat hay anymore. I agree. If you have to go with a bagged type feed. I don't think you can beat the Purina Active Senior. It has higher fat than any other I have found and none of my senior horses are overly active, but they still need that fat to stay looking good. Why would you choose Purina over Nutrena?
Just do a search on ionophores on this site, and you will stay far far away from it if you like your horses.
I am aware of the various threads and ionophore/medicated feed concerns.... I just thought I had read somewhere that Purina wasn't 100% ionophore free and there were still issues with their mills. Am I mistaken? |
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Location: Florida.. | From My Understanding they use seperate facilities or areas.. but someone did post in their state they werent sure if they did .. so I think Id check bag and findd out where its processed. Id use Purina over nutrena anyday..and how do the ones making a custom blend know where the oats , corn or whatever they use in it come from? its all processed to some extent so that argument doesnt work really..
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| Bibliafarm - 2015-12-24 8:34 AM
From My Understanding they use seperate facilities or areas.. but someone did post in their state they werent sure if they did .. so I think Id check bag and findd out where its processed. Id use Purina over nutrena anyday..and how do the ones making a custom blend know where the oats , corn or whatever they use in it come from? its all processed to some extent so that argument doesnt work really..
"...use Purina over Nutrena any day".... is how/where the product is made your only reason for this, or are there other reasons you say that? |
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Location: Florida.. | Two Nickles - 2015-12-24 9:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-12-24 8:34 AM From My Understanding they use seperate facilities or areas.. but someone did post in their state they werent sure if they did .. so I think Id check bag and findd out where its processed. Id use Purina over nutrena anyday..and how do the ones making a custom blend know where the oats , corn or whatever they use in it come from? its all processed to some extent so that argument doesnt work really.. "...use Purina over Nutrena any day".... is how/where the product is made your only reason for this, or are there other reasons you say that?
No just personal experience.. I have seen bags that looked like it was scraped off the floor. the horses I have seen on the safechoice etc have not bloomed nor looked good.. but its just personal choice.. |
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Location: CTX | Also, I found my old mare (who is the only one I have on Purina, everything else is on Renew Gold, but she lost weight on that) really liking the Purina. She actaully nickers for it now, never did that for the Nutrena which I fed before I knew about the whole ionophore issue.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Bibliafarm - 2015-12-24 8:44 AM Two Nickles - 2015-12-24 9:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-12-24 8:34 AM From My Understanding they use seperate facilities or areas.. but someone did post in their state they werent sure if they did .. so I think Id check bag and findd out where its processed. Id use Purina over nutrena anyday..and how do the ones making a custom blend know where the oats , corn or whatever they use in it come from? its all processed to some extent so that argument doesnt work really.. "...use Purina over Nutrena any day".... is how/where the product is made your only reason for this, or are there other reasons you say that?
I've had the same experience with Nutrena. The feed looked terrible. My gelding was the only horse I had eating it and he went downhill and had the runs constantly. Then when I questioned Nutrena about the milling and bagging they lied to me about whether they had medicated free facilities. Once I switched back to Purina his symptoms went away. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2015-12-24 7:29 AM
Bibliafarm - 2015-12-24 8:44 AM Two Nickles - 2015-12-24 9:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-12-24 8:34 AM From My Understanding they use seperate facilities or areas.. but someone did post in their state they werent sure if they did .. so I think Id check bag and findd out where its processed. Id use Purina over nutrena anyday..and how do the ones making a custom blend know where the oats , corn or whatever they use in it come from? its all processed to some extent so that argument doesnt work really.. "...use Purina over Nutrena any day".... is how/where the product is made your only reason for this, or are there other reasons you say that?
I found MOLD chunks in several fresh bags of Nutrena Senior that were made only 10 days before. |
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Location: Midwest | FLITASTIC - 2015-12-24 10:56 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-12-24 7:29 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-12-24 8:44 AM Two Nickles - 2015-12-24 9:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-12-24 8:34 AM From My Understanding they use seperate facilities or areas.. but someone did post in their state they werent sure if they did .. so I think Id check bag and findd out where its processed. Id use Purina over nutrena anyday..and how do the ones making a custom blend know where the oats , corn or whatever they use in it come from? its all processed to some extent so that argument doesnt work really.. "...use Purina over Nutrena any day".... is how/where the product is made your only reason for this, or are there other reasons you say that? I found MOLD chunks in several fresh bags of Nutrena Senior that were made only 10 days before.
I do like the Senior feed... I know Purdue was using it in their hospital. When my horse stayed there for a colic, that was the feed they brought him back to eating with. It's a solid feed. I like the active senior by the tag, but have not tried it. Ultium is still my fav though of the Purina Feeds.
I feed my colt the Ultium Growth. He is looking great on it. My senior is now on a locally milled 13% pellet and rice bran. (the boarding barn's feed, it's decent).
I don't have tons of options. Most of those "safe" feeds posted are not in my area. So, I pick the best from my options. :)
I know Purina has its ups and downs over the years, but they have done well by me with their Ultium line.
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| When did nutrena buy triple crown, my horses never look good on nutrena. Id like to see my new horse have a better topline |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | Fancy Lass - 2015-12-23 3:08 PM
Purina senior has never failed me & my seniors ! I've seen it bring back skinny horses more times than I can count. I have before & after of a mare I recently got. Skin & bones .. Within 45-50 days on 10 lbs a day & grass hay , you wouldn't even believe the weight she put on .
Ditto. I had a friends 28 year old gelding come to my place in May, he was underweight and had no teeth. He gained well on the feed and got perky and glossy. |
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Location: Somewhere here in Wisconsin! | Purina Senior Active ALL the way!! I use it in young ones to seniors!! I also add freshly ground flaxseed 1full cup am and pm also add 2oz of healthy coat am and pm! Your senior will look amazing!! And the flaxseed with help with added fiber! |
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| Purinas ACTIVE senior all the way...I tried doing a natural unprocessed diet for my horse and loved the results when she would eat it. It was a struggle I tried it for 2 months and she won't touch any kind of Timothy or alfalfa I finally got her eating a little of it but on the road she absolutely wasn't going to even eat. So I switch back to active senior and we are good to go. |
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Location: Texas | I do like Purina Senior for my 26 yo horse, but it's expensive. I've found he does just as well with a scoop of beet pulp and regular 12% pellets if I soak them. He loves it!! |
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Location: Northwest | I guess I am the odd one out, I won't touch Purina Senior because it made the horse eating it psycho. This was 4 years ago though. Put that horse on Nutrena Senior and horse went back to acting normal. Honestly though, I've gotten away from all feeds like that and just do a cup of whole oats and alfalfa pellets each day to put their supplements in along with alfalfa/grass hay. |
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Location: Wherever They Send Me | I feed my 23 year old beet pulp, Purina Senior and alfalfa/mix pellets (teeth are ok)...I would love to try the Active. When he was at Kansas State University for colic surgery (suffocating lypoma) they recommended Purina Senior for him. |
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Location: Arkansas | amandacamarano - 2016-01-03 8:57 PM
I feed my 23 year old beet pulp, Purina Senior and alfalfa/mix pellets (teeth are ok)...I would love to try the Active. When he was at Kansas State University for colic surgery (suffocating lypoma) they recommended Purina Senior for him.
I thought the Sr was the best stuff ever----til I started feeding the Active!! It's wonderful |
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Location: Heart of Texas | My vet put my senior guy on renew gold when Triple Crown wasn't quite cutting it. So far so good. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | Regardless of what senior feed you choose beet pulp soaked in water IMO is a necessity. They love it and they slurp it up! And it makes the senior feed soft for them. |
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Location: Arkansas | soonergirl98 - 2016-01-04 12:14 PM
Regardless of what senior feed you choose beet pulp soaked in water IMO is a necessity. They love it and they slurp it up! And it makes the senior feed soft for them.
We do soaked beet pulp with the Sr Active. This time of year I feel good knowing they're getting water (and warmth since I use really warm water during the winter) in ways other than just the trough. And my 37 year old needs the beet to generate heat since he can't eat hay anymore. |
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