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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Depends is the horse a barrel or trail horse. Where is the horse at did they take it home?
Edit to add" It should take no more then a day are 2, when I'm looking I try and if I like I buy on the spot.
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Location: So. Cali. | I've never allowed one on a trial. Come ride it as many times as you'd like and Im happy to haul it out for you to try within reason. |
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My friend said she had a client interested in my horse. I dropped my horse off at her facility in november. A week later they said they loved him and wanted to know what my bottom dollar was. Considering the horse would be staying in her care (my friend) and I wanted a great home for him I meet her at half. I stated in the beginning that a good home was more important than the $, but I have yet to see anything from them. I would be ok with a signed purchase agreement at the very least, but I still can not seem to get that. Every week I get the same line "they will have money end of next week." While I could use the money, the great home is very important as well. My concern is that I cannot get a commmitment from them other than "end of next week". What if this horse croaks in there care? What if he colics? Who is the responsible party at this point?
I am trying to be patient (and nice), but I am getting tired of this.... I want him to have a great home, and I dont want to cause issues with my friend, however this is starting to get a little fishy for me... it has been 5 weeks since I dropped him off, 4 weeks since they decided they wanted to buy him.
Mind you this horse is not exceeding $1000. He is retired barrel horse being sold as a trail horse.
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How good of a home could they provide if they can't/won't come up with the funds to buy him outright after 5 weeks.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-29 10:15 AM Brief run down of the situation:
My friend said she had a client interested in my horse. I dropped my horse off at her facility in november. A week later they said they loved him and wanted to know what my bottom dollar was. Considering the horse would be staying in her (my friend) and I wanted a great home for him I meet her at half. I stated in the beginning that a good home was more important than the $, but I have yet to see anything from them. I would be ok with a signed purchase agreement at the very least, but I still can not seem to get that. Every week I get the same line "they will have money end of next week." While I could use the money, the great home is very important as well. My concern is that I cannot get a commmitment from them other than "end of next week". What if this horse croaks in there care? What if he colics? Who is the responsible party at this point?
I am trying to be patient (and nice), but I am getting tired of this.... I want him to have a great home, and I dont want to cause issues with my friend, however this is starting to get a little fishy for me... it has been 5 weeks since I dropped him off, 4 weeks since they decided they wanted to buy him.
I'll be picking my horse, you have been way to nice, I dont like getting jerked around. Go get your horse today... |
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Location: So. Cali. | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-29 8:15 AM Brief run down of the situation:
My friend said she had a client interested in my horse. I dropped my horse off at her facility in november. A week later they said they loved him and wanted to know what my bottom dollar was. Considering the horse would be staying in her care (my friend) and I wanted a great home for him I meet her at half. I stated in the beginning that a good home was more important than the $, but I have yet to see anything from them. I would be ok with a signed purchase agreement at the very least, but I still can not seem to get that. Every week I get the same line "they will have money end of next week." While I could use the money, the great home is very important as well. My concern is that I cannot get a commmitment from them other than "end of next week". What if this horse croaks in there care? What if he colics? Who is the responsible party at this point?
I am trying to be patient (and nice), but I am getting tired of this.... I want him to have a great home, and I dont want to cause issues with my friend, however this is starting to get a little fishy for me... it has been 5 weeks since I dropped him off, 4 weeks since they decided they wanted to buy him.
Mind you this horse is not exceeding $1000. He is retired barrel horse being sold as a trail horse.
Something gets signed with a deadline for payment, payment is recieved asap, otherwise horse gets picked back up by you asap. Who's currently paying for his feed? If something happens to him now, it's your responsibility. Nothing signed, no money exchanged, he's still your horse IMO
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Horse should be paid in full before a trial period just in case. Go get your horse. |
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Location: Desert Land | I have been lucky enough to have a few sellers let me take a horse on trial periods. I took out an insurance policy for full purchase price naming seller as beneficiary. Usually a week is more than enough time. Try the horse a few days, see how they are at home, out and about, etc. and if you like it, vet check and buy or return. I was even lucky enough once that a seller let me leave a large deposit and take the horse home a few hours away to vet check with my own vet. Every horse I took on a trial I purchased. It wasn't like a willy-nilly situation...I had tried the horses already and really liked them and just wanted to either see if I could live with a certain habit they had or use my own vet for a check because there wasn't a good vet in the seller's area or whatever. |
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Location: Northwest Florida | Go get your horse or the money today!
I have never allowed a trial, or expected one when buying a horse. There's just too much risk. I do know that a trial period usually requires the horse be paid for first, and a refund be available if requested, so you are being extremely generous with these people! (and being taken advantage of it seems) |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | If they cant come up with 1000 over five weeks how are they going to pay necessary vet bills?? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | oija - 2015-12-29 10:32 AM If they cant come up with 1000 over five weeks how are they going to pay necessary vet bills??
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| RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-29 10:23 AM
I supplied feed for the first week, after than my friend has been feeding and caring for him. I do not know if she is charging these people board or what.
Go get your horse! They have had more than enough time to decide if they want to buy the horse. I would be worried they couldn't afford the horse if they are having a hard time getting the 1000 to you. I was badly burned on a horse deal where the horse was even cheaper than 1000. They scraped the money together to buy the horse and then did not feed her and ran her into the ground. My experience is if they can't hand over the 1000 with in a day or two, they won't be able to afford the money to care for the horse on a daily basis. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I allowed a trial period on a young barely broke gelding one time. He was never sound again. I won't allow a horse of mine to go off my property ever again. That's not the only bad experience I've had. I took a finished barrel horse to a broker in California once. They allowed the horse to be hauled and competed on, then kept making excuses why the people couldn't pay for him. Never again. |
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Location: WI | I don't do trial periods. Give them a deadline (within a week) to get you the money or you are picking the horse up. |
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Location: Where the buffalo roam | I have a friend who purchased a horse (paid the seller in full at pick-up) after asking all the right questions, reviewing videos and trying her out. All was good for 7-10 days and suddenly the horse couldn't be caught. 3 days later she caught her and just brushed her and gave her a little treat and put her back away. Caught her the next day, saddled her and when she went to step into the saddle the horse blew, stepped on her and bucked all the way don the hill until she stepped on her reins and scared herself. Since then she cannot be caught without being roped, has kicked at people and is like a totally different horse. My friend immediately called the seller and asked if she would take her back and was told they would pay her a not evne a quarter of what was paid them. She was willing to take a reduced refund, but that is ridiculous! My friend has rehabbed a horse that had been abused and ended up being a very good barrel horse and is very patient with her horses. She will no longer even get near this horse because she is scared she will get hurt. Everyone that has heard this story suspects a long acting drug (i.e. fluphenazine), but have no proof. What this story is saying, is that trial periods should be allowed and a seller should have the honesty to take a horse back that is not working out - maybe at a reasonably reduced amount, but not what she was offered. Dog breeders take dogs back rather than have them somewhere they are no longer wanted and if you buy a big ticket item you have time to return it. Yes, agreements should be signed and insurance required if the horse isn't paid for, but I think buyers should have some rights also. I know if I ever buy another horse, I'll be doing a background check on the seller after this incident. |
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Location: Northern California | No trial period! Before you buy you MUST get blood work and Xrays and even then there is no gaurantee. It sounds like your friend got a horse above their skill level and they either need a trainer or a new horse. You can buy a horse off the internet and it turns out to be perfect or you can know a horse for a year - finally get a chance to buy it and when you get it home you two just don't get along.
There are too many things that can go wrong when the horse is in care with the potential buyer. Injury, bad habbits, poor horsemanship, you might as well lease them out. Not to mention in the mean time, someone who IS a good match may not get a chance or end up with a different horse. You are putting the horse in a new environment with a new owner and sure the horse may have been drugged OR it is acting out / finding it's rank in the herd and seeing if it can be dominant over any new people or animals which is very normal. Go try the horse out, come back when the vet is out to see it again, get blood work and Xrays. You can't expect a buyer to hold the horse for you, ever, trial period or payment etc. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-29 10:37 AM oija - 2015-12-29 10:32 AM If they cant come up with 1000 over five weeks how are they going to pay necessary vet bills?? Ditto..
I'll be getting my horse back today..
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Location: Where the buffalo roam | I know why I very rarely post on this site! Some of the people are pit vipers (which is what my husband calls all barrel racers! My friend has been riding and barrel racing since she was young. She did everything correctly and she tried the horse out in person before buying her. Her only error was in not pulling blood. This horse was NOT above her experience level from all information available. I have bought and sold horses and have been allowed and have allowed a 2 week trial period with insurance and have never had a problem. You're saying the seller has all the rights and the buyer has none? This horse was not in the five figures and not a finished barrel horse so she (wrongly) assumed drugs would not be an issue. After 2 weeks then I do consider the sale complete, but will negotiate if I know the buyer to allow maybe one more week. I'd rather my horse come back to me rather than be someplace that doesn't fit.I'm not saying a buyer can take advantage of the seller just saying there are rights on both sides. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | You are not being unreasonable at all! 5 weeks is WAYYYY too long! I usually know within 2 rides if the horse is going to work or not. And I'm worried if they can't pay you how will they be able to pay for the expenses of the horse, like if they get a vet bill or even monthly upkeep. Good Luck, but I would go pick up your horse and find a some one better. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Nobody - 2015-12-29 12:41 PM I know why I very rarely post on this site! Some of the people are pit vipers (which is what my husband calls all barrel racers! My friend has been riding and barrel racing since she was young. She did everything correctly and she tried the horse out in person before buying her. Her only error was in not pulling blood. This horse was NOT above her experience level from all information available. I have bought and sold horses and have been allowed and have allowed a 2 week trial period with insurance and have never had a problem. You're saying the seller has all the rights and the buyer has none? This horse was not in the five figures and not a finished barrel horse so she (wrongly) assumed drugs would not be an issue. After 2 weeks then I do consider the sale complete, but will negotiate if I know the buyer to allow maybe one more week. I'd rather my horse come back to me rather than be someplace that doesn't fit.I'm not saying a buyer can take advantage of the seller just saying there are rights on both sides.
What!!!!!
Sorry this happen to your friend, but this thread is not about a seller getting to someone.
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| Nobody - 2015-12-29 12:41 PM I know why I very rarely post on this site! Some of the people are pit vipers (which is what my husband calls all barrel racers! My friend has been riding and barrel racing since she was young. She did everything correctly and she tried the horse out in person before buying her. Her only error was in not pulling blood. This horse was NOT above her experience level from all information available. I have bought and sold horses and have been allowed and have allowed a 2 week trial period with insurance and have never had a problem. You're saying the seller has all the rights and the buyer has none? This horse was not in the five figures and not a finished barrel horse so she (wrongly) assumed drugs would not be an issue. After 2 weeks then I do consider the sale complete, but will negotiate if I know the buyer to allow maybe one more week. I'd rather my horse come back to me rather than be someplace that doesn't fit.I'm not saying a buyer can take advantage of the seller just saying there are rights on both sides.
No one is saying the buyer has no rights. The buyer has had the horse 5 weeks, plenty of time to adequately try the horse and pay for him. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Nobody - 2015-12-29 12:41 PM I know why I very rarely post on this site! Some of the people are pit vipers (which is what my husband calls all barrel racers! My friend has been riding and barrel racing since she was young. She did everything correctly and she tried the horse out in person before buying her. Her only error was in not pulling blood. This horse was NOT above her experience level from all information available. I have bought and sold horses and have been allowed and have allowed a 2 week trial period with insurance and have never had a problem. You're saying the seller has all the rights and the buyer has none? This horse was not in the five figures and not a finished barrel horse so she (wrongly) assumed drugs would not be an issue. After 2 weeks then I do consider the sale complete, but will negotiate if I know the buyer to allow maybe one more week. I'd rather my horse come back to me rather than be someplace that doesn't fit.I'm not saying a buyer can take advantage of the seller just saying there are rights on both sides.
I'm a barrel racer as so many are on here and WE are NOT pit vipers. Dont be coming on here calling us names. |
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Location: Northwest Florida | Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-29 1:17 PM
Nobody - 2015-12-29 12:41 PM I know why I very rarely post on this site! Some of the people are pit vipers (which is what my husband calls all barrel racers! My friend has been riding and barrel racing since she was young. She did everything correctly and she tried the horse out in person before buying her. Her only error was in not pulling blood. This horse was NOT above her experience level from all information available. I have bought and sold horses and have been allowed and have allowed a 2 week trial period with insurance and have never had a problem. You're saying the seller has all the rights and the buyer has none? This horse was not in the five figures and not a finished barrel horse so she (wrongly) assumed drugs would not be an issue. After 2 weeks then I do consider the sale complete, but will negotiate if I know the buyer to allow maybe one more week. I'd rather my horse come back to me rather than be someplace that doesn't fit.I'm not saying a buyer can take advantage of the seller just saying there are rights on both sides.
I'm a barrel racer as so many are on here and WE are NOT pit vipers. Dont be coming on here calling us names.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Nobody - 2015-12-29 9:32 AM
I have a friend who purchased a horse (paid the seller in full at pick-up) after asking all the right questions, reviewing videos and trying her out. All was good for 7-10 days and suddenly the horse couldn't be caught. 3 days later she caught her and just brushed her and gave her a little treat and put her back away. Caught her the next day, saddled her and when she went to step into the saddle the horse blew, stepped on her and bucked all the way don the hill until she stepped on her reins and scared herself. Since then she cannot be caught without being roped, has kicked at people and is like a totally different horse. My friend immediately called the seller and asked if she would take her back and was told they would pay her a not evne a quarter of what was paid them. She was willing to take a reduced refund, but that is ridiculous! My friend has rehabbed a horse that had been abused and ended up being a very good barrel horse and is very patient with her horses. She will no longer even get near this horse because she is scared she will get hurt. Everyone that has heard this story suspects a long acting drug (i.e. fluphenazine), but have no proof. What this story is saying, is that trial periods should be allowed and a seller should have the honesty to take a horse back that is not working out - maybe at a reasonably reduced amount, but not what she was offered. Dog breeders take dogs back rather than have them somewhere they are no longer wanted and if you buy a big ticket item you have time to return it. Yes, agreements should be signed and insurance required if the horse isn't paid for, but I think buyers should have some rights also. I know if I ever buy another horse, I'll be doing a background check on the seller after this incident.
This is what pre-purchase exams are for. Blood draw in your PP and have a contract stating the recourse if something goes wrong within xx number of days. It's pretty cut and dried if they refuse to abide by the terms of the contract. It's NOT so cut and dried when horses change owners from someone that knows how to work with them to someone without a clue. Horses come untrained really fast when a newby gets them. |
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Location: CTX | rodeomom3 - 2015-12-29 12:33 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-29 10:37 AM oija - 2015-12-29 10:32 AM If they cant come up with 1000 over five weeks how are they going to pay necessary vet bills?? Ditto..
I'll be getting my horse back today..
Agree with everything. Go get the horse.
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| Nobody - 2015-12-29 12:41 PM
I know why I very rarely post on this site! Some of the people are pit vipers (which is what my husband calls all barrel racers! My friend has been riding and barrel racing since she was young. She did everything correctly and she tried the horse out in person before buying her. Her only error was in not pulling blood. This horse was NOT above her experience level from all information available. I have bought and sold horses and have been allowed and have allowed a 2 week trial period with insurance and have never had a problem. You're saying the seller has all the rights and the buyer has none? This horse was not in the five figures and not a finished barrel horse so she (wrongly) assumed drugs would not be an issue. After 2 weeks then I do consider the sale complete, but will negotiate if I know the buyer to allow maybe one more week. I'd rather my horse come back to me rather than be someplace that doesn't fit.I'm not saying a buyer can take advantage of the seller just saying there are rights on both sides.
Just because people disagree with you doesnt constitute name calling... the buyer has the right to draw blood in a pre-purchase, they have the right to ask for certain terms in a bill of sale, did your friend even ask for a trial period? If not, you cannot state she wasnt given something she didnt even ask for.
I bought my gelding on a trial period, he was an unbroke 6 year old with check ligament surgery. I was given a few weeks to exercise him and see if there were any problems. According to vet, if the horse is going to have problems, it usually is immediate. This was all agreed upon before I took the horse home. I paid board and all costs for that few weeks and she potentially got some free training if he didnt work out. ETA - I also knew the owner through a friend which made this a more feasible option for me.
To the OP, i think you have been more than fair. I would tell them to s*** or get off the pot.
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I sold one years ago and told the peeps if she didn't work out I'd buy her back (barring injuries) after a week or so. They came back to me after showing her all season and wanted me to buy her back. No. I held the money for two weeks or so and when I saw them at a show with the horse I considered sale final. They have bad mouthed me. Never again.
I have an ex-friend who sold a futurity horse, which means papers had to be transferred, for big bucks, on time payments. New owner stopped paying after about 10/25th's. Even after going to court and winning the first owner didn't get the money for the horse.
Pre-purchase exam away, at buyers expense, come to my place and ride as many times as you'd like, I'll haul horse to a show or two for you for a flat $25 haul fee, talk to anyone who's ever bought from me, but there will be no trial period without an insurance policy in place for 200% of the horses value, plus major medical, before leaving my property, which will cost a potential buyer approximately 200% of the horses value, plus a few for the medical coverage.
By their nature horses are bound to get into trouble or get sick. I don't care how much bubble wrap -- a horse can find a way to hurt themselves!
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| Well I went to my friend with this:
I would like a signed purchase agreement or payment in full. If they need to make payments, which I prefer not to do, I want that stated in writing as well what they can commit to. I explained that I am not trying to be a pain, but they have said every week that they will have money at the end of the week, and I never see it. She has told me before that they (the buyers) have and that is not an issue.
I said I just wanted things to be clear so that we know who the responsible party is.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 12:50 PM Well I went to my friend with this:
I would like a signed purchase agreement or payment in full. If they need to make payments, which I prefer not to do, I want that stated in writing as well what they can commit to. I explained that I am not trying to be a pain, but they have said every week that they will have money at the end of the week, and I never see it. She has told me before that they (the buyers) have and that is not an issue.
I said I just wanted things to be clear so that we know who the responsible party is.
So far... crickets chirping..
I would not be taking payment's at this point, they have had this horse for 5 weeks and that is plenty of time to have payed you the 1000.00 I would NOT trust them to pay you all the money if making payments. You are just way to nice and alot nicer then I could have been with all this jerking around that they have been doing to you. |
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| RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 12:50 PM
Well I went to my friend with this:
I would like a signed purchase agreement or payment in full. If they need to make payments, which I prefer not to do, I want that stated in writing as well what they can commit to. I explained that I am not trying to be a pain, but they have said every week that they will have money at the end of the week, and I never see it. She has told me before that they (the buyers) have and that is not an issue.
I said I just wanted things to be clear so that we know who the responsible party is.
So far... crickets chirping..
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | cheryl makofka - 2015-12-30 1:33 PM RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 12:50 PM Well I went to my friend with this:
I would like a signed purchase agreement or payment in full. If they need to make payments, which I prefer not to do, I want that stated in writing as well what they can commit to. I explained that I am not trying to be a pain, but they have said every week that they will have money at the end of the week, and I never see it. She has told me before that they (the buyers) have and that is not an issue.
I said I just wanted things to be clear so that we know who the responsible party is.
So far... crickets chirping.. I would go get the horse
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Location: In the wrong place at the wrong time | I wouldn't be texting anyone at this point. The horse would be back in my pasture and I would be done with those buyers. You are being way nicer than I would be after having my horse for 5 weeks. There is no excuse for this.
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Location: N Texas | Unless your friend is a broker, or is being compensated in some way, take her OUT of this mess. You need to be dealing directly with the buyers. You're so afraid of offending someone and coming across as pushy, that you don't even realize how YOU are the one being mistreated and taken advantage of.
Don't apologize for "being a pain", you need to be VERY clear what your expectations are (I need payment in full by x date, or I will be coming to pick up the horse). You've said how it's more important that the horse have a good home than how much money you make, so they're probably assuming that as long as they're properly caring for the horse, you're not worried about the money.
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| Cisco6340 - 2015-12-30 1:53 PM I wouldn't be texting anyone at this point. The horse would be back in my pasture and I would be done with those buyers. You are being way nicer than I would be after having my horse for 5 weeks. There is no excuse for this. Good luck and go hook up your trailer.
I chose to text so I have a trail of the conversation so nothing was he said/she said. :)
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Location: N Texas | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:00 PM
I know.. i am just trying to not cause issues with my friend (who's client is the buyer). But she is the only liason.. I have no idea who the buyers are or even how to contact them...I agree..good thing I work a half day tomorrow. Turns out they just had the horse injected this week also.. and he got a new blanket...
Well she's not being a very good friend, because she's allowing someone to take advantage of you. Outright ask her for their info. Tell her she's not getting the job done, so you have to. |
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| RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:00 PM
I know.. i am just trying to not cause issues with my friend (who's client is the buyer). But she is the only liason.. I have no idea who the buyers are or even how to contact them...I agree..good thing I work a half day tomorrow. Turns out they just had the horse injected this week also.. and he got a new blanket...
The buyers could be misunderstood on the terms if they are injecting without asking you?
If I was in your situation, I would say $XXXX by X/XX/XX, if they don't produce the funds, pick up the horse that day. Just a heads up, don't be surprised if they expect you to reimburse them for vet costs and feed/boarding. Not saying you should pay, but work out a solution.
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Location: Texas | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:00 PM I know.. i am just trying to not cause issues with my friend (who's client is the buyer). But she is the only liason.. I have no idea who the buyers are or even how to contact them...I agree..good thing I work a half day tomorrow. Turns out they just had the horse injected this week also.. and he got a new blanket...
Whaaaat? Who does that to a horse they have not paid for? Why would your friend let them do that? I would have to know they rest of that story. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:00 PM I know.. i am just trying to not cause issues with my friend (who's client is the buyer). But she is the only liason.. I have no idea who the buyers are or even how to contact them...I agree..good thing I work a half day tomorrow. Turns out they just had the horse injected this week also.. and he got a new blanket...
Injected for what? So they are paying for the injections and buying a blanket but wont pay you and your friend is the broker in this mess? And you dont know who the buyers are? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:00 PM I know.. i am just trying to not cause issues with my friend (who's client is the buyer). But she is the only liason.. I have no idea who the buyers are or even how to contact them...I agree..good thing I work a half day tomorrow. Turns out they just had the horse injected this week also.. and he got a new blanket...
Are you kidding......Your "friend" has put herself in the position of being the "broker"........SHE is now responsible for collecting the money OR the horse for you. At this point in time, I would go get the horse! |
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Location: sunny california | They are trying to get a barrel horse at a trail horse price. they are getting him injected to see if they can "fix" him or at least get him moving better so that they can get more for him??? and if not he will be returned |
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Location: N Texas | kwanatha - 2015-12-30 3:28 PM
They are trying to get a barrel horse at a trail horse price. they are getting him injected to see if they can "fix" him or at least get him moving better so that they can get more for him??? and if not he will be returned
Yep, I bet they've been hauling him too. |
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Location: N Texas | kwanatha - 2015-12-30 3:29 PM
BTW you not knowing thse people or no way to contact them tells me that he is priced higher than you think
I think this "friend" is for sure hiding something. Definitely something shady going on! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Have you even been to this place that your horse is at to check up on him/her to make sure its being taken care of? |
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| RocketPilot - 2015-12-30 3:16 PM RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:00 PM I know.. i am just trying to not cause issues with my friend (who's client is the buyer). But she is the only liason.. I have no idea who the buyers are or even how to contact them...I agree..good thing I work a half day tomorrow. Turns out they just had the horse injected this week also.. and he got a new blanket... Whaaaat? Who does that to a horse they have not paid for? Why would your friend let them do that? I would have to know they rest of that story.
I do now know. She said the vet was out to inject another horse and she just had him done becouse he needed it done. They knew all about what his maintenace was long before she said she had someone interested in him becouse I use her vet also and usually drop my horse off at her facility to be vetted on so I do not have to take time off work.
She informed me yesterday after she had already done it. But when I said I needed things in writing I never heard back from her. |
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| kwanatha - 2015-12-30 3:29 PM BTW you not knowing thse people or no way to contact them tells me that he is priced higher than you think
Probably... and I am ok with her doing that to make a little.. but I still want to be paid. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 3:33 PM Have you even been to this place that your horse is at to check up on him/her to make sure its being taken care of?
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| RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:00 PM
I know.. i am just trying to not cause issues with my friend (who's client is the buyer). But she is the only liason.. I have no idea who the buyers are or even how to contact them...I agree..good thing I work a half day tomorrow. Turns out they just had the horse injected this week also.. and he got a new blanket...
They don't own the horse. The vet should have never injected. I would be calling the vet and getting his version, then politely explain it is not their horse and you didn't consent to the injections.
And I wouldn't be texting anymore, as I have a feeling that horse is going to disappear when you go to get him |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 3:20 PM RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:00 PM I know.. i am just trying to not cause issues with my friend (who's client is the buyer). But she is the only liason.. I have no idea who the buyers are or even how to contact them...I agree..good thing I work a half day tomorrow. Turns out they just had the horse injected this week also.. and he got a new blanket... Injected for what? So they are paying for the injections and buying a blanket but wont pay you and your friend is the broker in this mess? And you dont know who the buyers are?
He retired from barrel racing because of an arthritic knee. So he was being sold as a trail horse. Said she had this kid who he would be perfect for, so I dropped him off. He came up sore so she is probably just maintaining him like he needs...but still... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:37 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 3:33 PM Have you even been to this place that your horse is at to check up on him/her to make sure its being taken care of? yes, she takes very good care of her horses.
But have you gone to see him? |
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Location: sunny california | Contact the vet and see if you can get the address and go get him now!
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 3:40 PM RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 3:37 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 3:33 PM Have you even been to this place that your horse is at to check up on him/her to make sure its being taken care of? yes, she takes very good care of her horses.
Yes I have.. he is good. My other gelding was boarded there for about a month so I stopped in at least weekly and checked on him. I just seen him last week. |
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Location: California | Don't do it!!! I let someone try a horse for a little over a week, I got him back and this horse was an anxious ball and was all of a sudden hard to bridle?!?! I'll NEVER do that again!! Come and try them as much as you want, but I'll never ever lease before buying again.
Since being back with me, the horse is back to normal-- but it was upsetting for about a week the difference they made in him. And this was a completely signed/legal agreement. |
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Location: Canada | HOOK UP THE TRAILER AND GET YOUR HORSE!!!!!!! This isn't a friend. A friend doesn't let another friend get jerked around and CERTAINLY doesn't let her friends horse be injected without permission.
Get your horse and get him now. If you don't have $1000 after five weeks they really can't afford the horse.
Stop waiting till the horse is injured or disappears. This isn't a good home bring him back and try for another home.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RunNitroRun - 2015-12-30 3:58 PM HOOK UP THE TRAILER AND GET YOUR HORSE!!!!!!! This isn't a friend. A friend doesn't let another friend get jerked around and CERTAINLY doesn't let her friends horse be injected without permission. Get your horse and get him now. If you don't have $1000 after five weeks they really can't afford the horse. Stop waiting till the horse is injured or disappears. This isn't a good home bring him back and try for another home.
^^^^ THIS !!!! Waaaaaaay too many red flags on this deal ! |
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Location: Texas | Don't wait much longer. Case in point, they could brand the horse and get a new Coggins and claim the horse is theirs. You could then have a very hard time getting him back. |
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Location: In the wrong place at the wrong time | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-30 4:00 PM
Cisco6340 - 2015-12-30 1:53 PM I wouldn't be texting anyone at this point. The horse would be back in my pasture and I would be done with those buyers. You are being way nicer than I would be after having my horse for 5 weeks. There is no excuse for this. Good luck and go hook up your trailer.
I chose to text so I have a trail of the conversation so nothing was he said/she said. :)
I get that....I just meant you need to just end this and go get your horse.
I hate to say this but a friend would not let you be taken advantage of in this way and if someone injected my horse without my consent I would not be happy to say the least and they certainly would not get reimbursed when I went to get my horse!
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Location: CTX | Please, for the sake of the horse, stop trying to find excuses for the broker and the buyer!
There are too many red flags here...
They have jerked you around for 5 weeks. If they can't come up with $1000 in that time they won't be able to properly take care of him. An old timer like that has special needs, his knee for one. But different feed also probably.
Then they inject without your consent. And start buying stuff for him, tells me they already think he is theirs....
Go get the horse, before he gets hurt and you are left with a cripple (or worse) horse and a huge vetbill...
I am sorry, but they most certainly do not sound like a responsible home....
No more texting, calls or whatever. Go get him.
And as for the broker, your so called friend, I would keep them at arm lenght, they do not have your (or even the horses) best interest in mind!
ETA, do not pay for those injections! You did not consent to them so it's on their dime!!!
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| the only time I have ever asked for a "trial" period was when I ask if I could take the horse to my house on a Sunday afternoon, ride it, and take it to the vet mon morning for a prepurchase and I did that only because I honestly didn't trust the sellers. The horse had been sedated the 1st time I looked at it and I wanted to see the horse for itself and not have to worry about if it was honest or not.
That being said, there is no trial period due to liability. In the above situation if that horse would have gotten hurt in any way at my house, in my trailer- ect I would have been the new owner regardless. Too much risk there.... |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 4:06 PM How old is this horse and are you in Texas?
18, and no not TX.
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| Picking him up tomorrow if there is no payment or signed purchase agreement. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | I know you are trying to do the right thing and you are in a tough spot because you have a good heart. Unfortunately...whether it's intentional or not...you are definitely being taken advantage of by either the prospective buyers, the broker, or both.
If you want to assume they are good intentioned but taking advantage of your patience and good nature...you could tell them you need to sell the horse and if they cannot pay for him now...you are coming to pick him up and will find a buyer yourself. That you won't ask for any lease fees for the time they have had him to ride/use. (And they dang well better not think they can charge you board, vet fees or ANYTHING else.)
You need a resolution to this deal. I know you don't want to be confrontational or burn a bridge with the "friend"...so you can do it nicely...but honestly...would you string a friend along as they have? I'm guessing not.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | To me, it's a huge red flag anytime someone says they will do something, then they don't follow through. They said they'd do something by the end of the week and they didn't do it. How can you believe anything else they say? They also said they would take good care of the horse and were using him only for trail riding, if I understood correctly from your posts. Since they lied about the payment terms, the other stuff they said may very well be false. If something came up, they should have gotten in touch with you to let you know and come to an agreement with everyone involved.
A good home is important to me, too. But, I wouldn't take their word for it. I would check on other places they've boarded and ask around about them and check with their vet as to the care of their other animals. Especially if you're giving them a deal on the horse. |
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Location: Northwest Florida | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-31 7:39 AM
Picking him up tomorrow if there is no payment or signed purchase agreement.
Great. Let us know what they decide to do.
I cannot believe they injected this horse that did not belong to them, without even asking you. Absolutely do not pay for anything.
It sounds to me like they were trying to see if they could inject him and run him, before they made the decision to purchase him. Doesn't work that way!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-31 7:39 AM Picking him up tomorrow if there is no payment or signed purchase agreement.
This would not work for me...JMO.....they have already proven that they will not live up to their obligations so a contract (or partial payment) will just be "moot". Then your only recourse is to sue for the money which will cost you more. I would pick up the horse and then they can have it back when the FULL payment is made within a certain number of days.....Otherwise, you are just asking for more problems should they not pay or the horse gets sick or injured.....QUIT BEING NICE ! ! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-31 7:38 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 4:06 PM How old is this horse and are you in Texas?
18, and no not TX.
Was wondering what part of the state you were in , if you were where it didnt take forever to get to I would offer to buy him from you and then find this horse a forever home.
I sure do hope that you do go pick up your horse, your friend is not much of a friend to keep jerking you around this way, Shame on her for treating a friend this way..
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Location: Canada | NJJ is right. Don't waste your time on a signed agreement. This doesn't mean anymore then the verbal agreement. You said you wanted a good home and I commend you for that but you need to look at it this way:
You took half of the price to accommodate these people
You gave them five weeks to come up with $1000
You've asked nicely for the money with no reply
What you got in return
No response from the buyers except excuses
They injected a horse they don't own (they had money for the injection but not you?!?!)
They're buying supplies for the horse but haven't paid you.
I'm glad you want a good home but money should have exchanged hands a long time ago.Save yourself the heartache and headache and go pick him up. Something is very odd in this deal and red flags aren't just flying they're flashing bright red lights as well.
Keep us update and fingers crossed it all works out.
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Location: Being pushed over the edge, NM | I'd be taking the issue up directly with your friend/broker. Friendship and business can get along well if things are done clearly and with business in mind. Acting as a broker isn't something that should be treated lightly, it's business and should be treated as such.
I've brokered horses before, your case reminds me of an issue I had with a client who I sold a horse for. My client was a nice person but lived outside of her means. She had collectors calling her so often she would change her phone number and wouldn't bother telling me, I'd have to email her or drive 40 minutes to get ahold of her. I'd even have to confirm her number was good before giving it out to potential buyers. The horse was a nice older gelding, nice barrel horse, and very affordable. I family in Colorado ended up wanting him and asked if they could do payments, which the client agreed to. I wrote up a very specific and clear contract, in which the seller would keep the horses AQHA papers until the final payment was received, and then send the papers with a signed transfer to the buyers in a timely manner, I want to say it was 2 weeks. Every time I'd run into the seller she would say she wish she would have/could have kept him.
A long time passed, over a year, and I get an email from the family in Colorado who had bought the horse. They had long since paid the horse off and had yet to receive the papers. They'd contacted my client (the seller) directly and had been told the papers would be sent, and they never were. The phone number changed, and emails weren't being returned, so the poor buyers contacted me to see if I could help. I finally managed to get ahold of the seller, who hemmed and hawed. Finally, to get the buyers their papers, I had to write a letter to AQHA with a copy of the signed sales agreement, and then I sent it to the seller before I mailed it to AQHA. She realized I wasn't kidding and that AQHA would take care of the papers if she wouldn't. She finally sent the buyers their papers. This was a horse sold for $1,000 by the way. The only issues I've ever had are with the less expensive horses, the $15,000 - $40,000 horses I've sold have been done deals with no hiccups. I don't know if that's because people buying at those prices are accustomed to legal documents and read the contracts carefully before signing, and even the ones who've made payments have been perfect.
Anyway, having to see the buyers be put through that, and then my having to get them the papers as per my obligations certainly wasn't any fun at all, but as the broker/agent I had a duty to both the seller and the buyer. The seller has since villianized me for it, but like I said, everything was in writing and it's business. You can't control people's personalities or their personal issues, but having proper legal documents and written communications will CYA when it comes to court and dealing with AQHA, etc.
My personal opinion and advice in your situation is to put a deadline in place and stick to it. And of course in the future, a broker should have done this in writing and handled this immediately. As the seller you should also CYA with written agreements, and remember to be as clear as possible -if it's not in writing, it doesn't exist.
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 9:35 AM
RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-31 7:38 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 4:06 PM How old is this horse and are you in Texas?
18, and no not TX.
I sure do hope that you do go pick up your horse, your friend is not much of a friend to keep jerking you around this way, Shame on her for treating a friend this way..
If she was true friend she would have payed you for this horse and then get her money from these people.
Miss Roxie you're so sweet!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-31 9:52 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 9:35 AM RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-31 7:38 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 4:06 PM How old is this horse and are you in Texas?
18, and no not TX.
I sure do hope that you do go pick up your horse, your friend is not much of a friend to keep jerking you around this way, Shame on her for treating a friend this way..
If she was true friend she would have payed you for this horse and then get her money from these people. Miss Roxie you're so sweet! To the OP, let us know what happens. . .
I try to be at times but sometimes its really hard to be nice,,  lol Thank you for the compliment I have bought a few horses that were in a bad place and try to find them a better home. |
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-01 5:46 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-31 9:52 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 9:35 AM RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-31 7:38 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 4:06 PM How old is this horse and are you in Texas?
18, and no not TX.
I sure do hope that you do go pick up your horse, your friend is not much of a friend to keep jerking you around this way, Shame on her for treating a friend this way..
If she was true friend she would have payed you for this horse and then get her money from these people. Miss Roxie you're so sweet! To the OP, let us know what happens. . .
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Location: Florida.. | If horse gets sick or gets infected frm injections you will end up with nothing but bills.. this is bad business.. your friend knows this.. taking advantage of you. she is collecting board and making a profit and probraly giving lessons on this horse to new owner .. id be loading up and getting the horse today.. and if buyers want horse they can go thru you.. also if buyers dont buy.... you are going to get a feed and vet bill.............watch and see.. hes your horse
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Location: Oakdale, CA | Three*C*Champs - 2015-12-29 8:12 AM I've never allowed one on a trial. Come ride it as many times as you'd like and Im happy to haul it out for you to try within reason.
excellent advice! my feeling too............Come hang around and get to know them at my place.....................
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Waiting for an update on this one........Did you go get your horse? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Checking back to see if you got your horse back or money? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-03 1:35 PM Checking back to see if you got your horse back or money?
It doesn't look like she has logged on to BHW since Thursday morning. I really hate it when a BB posts and gets everybody "invested" in their problems and then they don't bother to update......makes you wonder????? |
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Location: oklahoma | got boost? - 2016-01-02 6:47 PM Three*C*Champs - 2015-12-29 8:12 AM I've never allowed one on a trial. Come ride it as many times as you'd like and Im happy to haul it out for you to try within reason. excellent advice! my feeling too............Come hang around and get to know them at my place.....................
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-01-03 5:55 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-03 1:35 PM Checking back to see if you got your horse back or money? It doesn't look like she has logged on to BHW since Thursday morning. I really hate it when a BB posts and gets everybody "invested" in their problems and then they don't bother to update......makes you wonder?????
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Location: That part of Texas | NJJ - 2016-01-03 5:55 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-03 1:35 PM Checking back to see if you got your horse back or money? It doesn't look like she has logged on to BHW since Thursday morning. I really hate it when a BB posts and gets everybody "invested" in their problems and then they don't bother to update......makes you wonder?????
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Red Raider - 2016-01-03 9:11 PM NJJ - 2016-01-03 5:55 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-03 1:35 PM Checking back to see if you got your horse back or money? It doesn't look like she has logged on to BHW since Thursday morning. I really hate it when a BB posts and gets everybody "invested" in their problems and then they don't bother to update......makes you wonder?????
She posted this last Thursday morning.........
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| Sorry guys! Did not check back over the weekend, was busy with family stuff. Update.. did not pick up the horse. Full payment was promised by today...
Absolute last straw here!! No money today, no horse to ride tomorrow.. cuz I will pick him up tonight.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-01 5:46 PM Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-31 9:52 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 9:35 AM RunfastNTurn - 2015-12-31 7:38 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-30 4:06 PM How old is this horse and are you in Texas?
18, and no not TX.
I sure do hope that you do go pick up your horse, your friend is not much of a friend to keep jerking you around this way, Shame on her for treating a friend this way..
If she was true friend she would have payed you for this horse and then get her money from these people. Miss Roxie you're so sweet! To the OP, let us know what happens. . .
That is really nice of you!! :)
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Location: Canada | RunfastNTurn - 2016-01-04 10:37 AM
Sorry guys! Did not check back over the weekend, was busy with family stuff. Update.. did not pick up the horse. Full payment was promised by today...
Absolute last straw here!! No money today, no horse to ride tomorrow.. cuz I will pick him up tonight.
I am to nice.. I know...
Fingers crossed you get the funds today. Please keep us updated.
If funds don't arrive today be firm and go get that horse. Then if they want the horse it's back to the original price, cash up front before the horse leaves. Start advertising him as soon as you get him home for the original price. You may find the absolutely perfect fit for him so don't settle.
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Location: N Texas | RunNitroRun - 2016-01-04 3:42 PM
RunfastNTurn - 2016-01-04 10:37 AM
Sorry guys! Did not check back over the weekend, was busy with family stuff. Update.. did not pick up the horse. Full payment was promised by today...
Absolute last straw here!! No money today, no horse to ride tomorrow.. cuz I will pick him up tonight.
I am to nice.. I know...
Fingers crossed you get the funds today. Please keep us updated.
If funds don't arrive today be firm and go get that horse. Then if they want the horse it's back to the original price, cash up front before the horse leaves. Start advertising him as soon as you get him home for the original price. You may find the absolutely perfect fit for him so don't settle.
Best of luck
Agree, once you have the horse back, he's back to his original price, and that's what they're going to have to pay. That's what they get for taking advantage of you :) |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2016-01-04 5:45 PM Any update?
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-04 6:24 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2016-01-04 5:45 PM Any update?
Checking for an update |
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| He has been paid for!
I feel much better now. :)
I am glad, because the situation is perfect for him.. he was on the Equivibe when I got there to pick up the money.
No more horse deals with friends though... ever!! |
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Location: CTX | RunfastNTurn - 2016-01-05 7:53 AM He has been paid for!
I feel much better now. :)
I am glad, because the situation is perfect for him.. he was on the Equivibe when I got there to pick up the money.
No more horse deals with friends though... ever!!
Glad to hear it all got settled! |
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| Glad it turned out well for you and the horse! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Now the OP can relax and so can we, lol |
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| Well... I am glad you all can relax too. :)
Thanks for the encouragement! |
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Location: N Texas | Awesome, so glad to hear of a good update!! |
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| yay! Congrats. I'm glad they are taking care of him too. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RunfastNTurn - 2016-01-05 7:53 AM He has been paid for!
I feel much better now. :)
I am glad, because the situation is perfect for him.. he was on the Equivibe when I got there to pick up the money.
No more horse deals with friends though... ever!!
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Location: Arkansas | RunfastNTurn - 2016-01-05 10:23 AM
Well... I am glad you all can relax too. :)
Thanks for the encouragement!
It's so nice to hear it finally worked out for you, but I'm really glad he got a good home in the process too! Even tho it was L O N G and D R A W N O U T!
Edited by Chandler's Mom 2016-01-05 10:20 PM
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| Chandler's Mom - 2016-01-05 10:18 PM RunfastNTurn - 2016-01-05 10:23 AM Well... I am glad you all can relax too. :)
Thanks for the encouragement! It's so nice to hear it finally worked out for you, but I'm really glad he got a good home in the process too! Even tho it was L O N G and D R A W N O U T!
Yes! me too... i guess that is why I was so patient.
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Trial period for buyer?