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Location: Texas | I have been doing some research on the holistic approach to healing, and I am so excited about what I am finding out! I am actually making my own colloidal silver now, and I am incorporating some essential oils and "other stuff", I'm not prepared to discuss yet, lol. But it is sure showing promise for my horses. Especially Stormy! The more research I do, the more I wonder why we don't utilize some of these things, and why they aren't more main stream. I feel like it is a money thing for sure. I've always been a little into the holistic approach to things, but now, I may turn into that lady you run from when you see her coming!
I am making my own colloidal silver and having great success with it. I'm making it about 20 - 30ppm which is working AWESOME in the nebulizer for my allergy plagued gelding. I'm mixing it with some "stuff" and I'm hoping to get a great report when we do our next scope in about 45 days.
Anyone else make their own CS, or have some good holistic methods that they have found success with? Please post and let us know what it is!
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I have tried to find the lady but I don't even know her name, but what she did to my horse I haven't met anyone who could duplicate it.
I was only 14 at the time, my dad was introduced to her and she wanted to expand her craft so my horse was her lab rat.
The horse was diagnosed with osteoarthritis in front joints, was getting injections regularly
Anyway she applied a mixture of 2-3 oils on the pressure points on the leg, I kid you not the horse kicked out and all the heat in the leg was gone, the leg was cold.
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Location: Lone Star State | I do not make my own, but we use colloidal silver at times. My coworkers swear by it and were the ones to get us using it. Im not a faithful user, but I will tell you I had recurrent kidney infections last year and doctors kept switching antibiotics. During the last infection, I continually used Collodial silver for about a month following and the infection went away for good. Idk, could be coincidental but like I said, my coworkers swear by it. Following this thread.... |
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I do not make my own, but we use colloidal silver at times. My coworkers swear by it and were the ones to get us using it. Im not a faithful user, but I will tell you I had recurrent kidney infections last year and doctors kept switching antibiotics. During the last infection, I continually used Collodial silver for about a month following and the infection went away for good. Idk, could be coincidental but like I said, my coworkers swear by it. Following this thread....
I have heard and read a lot of these type of stories... people seem to try it as a last resort and discover it is the only thing that actually works. Antibiotics are not always the answer, for sure.
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Location: Bandera, TX | cheryl makofka - 2016-01-01 12:22 PM There is something to do with essential oils and acupressure points. I have tried to find the lady but I don't even know her name, but what she did to my horse I haven't met anyone who could duplicate it. I was only 14 at the time, my dad was introduced to her and she wanted to expand her craft so my horse was her lab rat. The horse was diagnosed with osteoarthritis in front joints, was getting injections regularly Anyway she applied a mixture of 2-3 oils on the pressure points on the leg, I kid you not the horse kicked out and all the heat in the leg was gone, the leg was cold. If you find out what could duplicate this please message me.
CM, back in that time they used lots of Helichrysm/Myrrh/Copaiba
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I'm on the DMSO kick right now... reading a GREAT book about DMSO and it's uses. I have incorporated it into some therapies I'm testing. The results are looking good!
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Location: Texas | grinandbareit - 2016-01-01 2:24 PM
I'm on the DMSO kick right now... reading a GREAT book about DMSO and it's uses. I have incorporated it into some therapies I'm testing. The results are looking good!
Necessity is the mother of invention! :)
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Location: Bandera, TX | grinandbareit - 2016-01-01 12:14 PM I have been doing some research on the holistic approach to healing, and I am so excited about what I am finding out! I am actually making my own colloidal silver now, and I am incorporating some essential oils and "other stuff", I'm not prepared to discuss yet, lol. But it is sure showing promise for my horses. Especially Stormy! The more research I do, the more I wonder why we don't utilize some of these things, and why they aren't more main stream. I feel like it is a money thing for sure. I've always been a little into the holistic approach to things, but now, I may turn into that lady you run from when you see her coming! I am making my own colloidal silver and having great success with it. I'm making it about 20 - 30ppm which is working AWESOME in the nebulizer for my allergy plagued gelding. I'm mixing it with some "stuff" and I'm hoping to get a great report when we do our next scope in about 45 days. Anyone else make their own CS, or have some good holistic methods that they have found success with? Please post and let us know what it is!
What allergens are setting your horse off? I've got one that seems to be much worse in the ragweed season. And dust...oh how I hate the drought we've been in. I sure hope its over!
May I suggest that you do a BAL and a Trach wash they will pick up different pathogenes. My vet scoped and said he's clean I don't think we're going to find anything...did a BAL and he had low grade inflammation. Thankfully no Mast cells.
I've found its best to use a mesh nebulizer. But really getting the meds in with a jet or ultrasonic are indeed helping the horse.
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Location: Texas | uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-01 3:38 PM
grinandbareit - 2016-01-01 12:14 PM I have been doing some research on the holistic approach to healing, and I am so excited about what I am finding out! I am actually making my own colloidal silver now, and I am incorporating some essential oils and "other stuff", I'm not prepared to discuss yet, lol. But it is sure showing promise for my horses. Especially Stormy! The more research I do, the more I wonder why we don't utilize some of these things, and why they aren't more main stream. I feel like it is a money thing for sure. I've always been a little into the holistic approach to things, but now, I may turn into that lady you run from when you see her coming! I am making my own colloidal silver and having great success with it. I'm making it about 20 - 30ppm which is working AWESOME in the nebulizer for my allergy plagued gelding. I'm mixing it with some "stuff" and I'm hoping to get a great report when we do our next scope in about 45 days. Anyone else make their own CS, or have some good holistic methods that they have found success with? Please post and let us know what it is!
What allergens are setting your horse off? I've got one that seems to be much worse in the ragweed season. And dust...oh how I hate the drought we've been in. I sure hope its over!
May I suggest that you do a BAL and a Trach wash they will pick up different pathogenes. My vet scoped and said he's clean I don't think we're going to find anything...did a BAL and he had low grade inflammation. Thankfully no Mast cells.
I've found its best to use a mesh nebulizer. But really getting the meds in with a jet or ultrasonic are indeed helping the horse.
I had some amazing pictures on a mare that had a horrific injury that we used CS on to help her healing.
I've been battling with this for two years... We've done the BAL and trach wash. This horse got super sick in Ok City his juvie year and came home with a 106 temp and stayed sick for 2 weeks... It caused some kind of an issue with his immune system. I have tried EVERYTHING and although I can use drugs to help his symptoms, it is doing nothing to solve the problem. I also have a pythium issue here. I believe that this a hughly misdiagnosed problem. We are doing the vaccine now, but cicatrix is visible in the tracheal area, though it is minimal. I bought a really good nebulizer and have been using dmso in addition to CS at least 2X day. His drainage and cough are WAY better and the drainage that does exist is clear and very thin. I'm excited to see what the scope shows when I take him back. He's been on allergy shots for nearly 2 years now, too.
My older gelding has the pythium allergy and is off pasture, but seems to be responding well to the vaccine. We'll see how things go when this series is done and he is on pasture again.
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| grinandbareit - 2016-01-01 4:14 PM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-01 3:38 PM grinandbareit - 2016-01-01 12:14 PM I have been doing some research on the holistic approach to healing, and I am so excited about what I am finding out! I am actually making my own colloidal silver now, and I am incorporating some essential oils and "other stuff", I'm not prepared to discuss yet, lol. But it is sure showing promise for my horses. Especially Stormy! The more research I do, the more I wonder why we don't utilize some of these things, and why they aren't more main stream. I feel like it is a money thing for sure. I've always been a little into the holistic approach to things, but now, I may turn into that lady you run from when you see her coming! I am making my own colloidal silver and having great success with it. I'm making it about 20 - 30ppm which is working AWESOME in the nebulizer for my allergy plagued gelding. I'm mixing it with some "stuff" and I'm hoping to get a great report when we do our next scope in about 45 days. Anyone else make their own CS, or have some good holistic methods that they have found success with? Please post and let us know what it is! What allergens are setting your horse off? I've got one that seems to be much worse in the ragweed season. And dust...oh how I hate the drought we've been in. I sure hope its over!
May I suggest that you do a BAL and a Trach wash they will pick up different pathogenes. My vet scoped and said he's clean I don't think we're going to find anything...did a BAL and he had low grade inflammation. Thankfully no Mast cells.
I've found its best to use a mesh nebulizer. But really getting the meds in with a jet or ultrasonic are indeed helping the horse.
I had some amazing pictures on a mare that had a horrific injury that we used CS on to help her healing. I've been battling with this for two years... We've done the BAL and trach wash. This horse got super sick in Ok City his juvie year and came home with a 106 temp and stayed sick for 2 weeks... It caused some kind of an issue with his immune system. I have tried EVERYTHING and although I can use drugs to help his symptoms, it is doing nothing to solve the problem. I also have a pythium issue here. I believe that this a hughly misdiagnosed problem. We are doing the vaccine now, but cicatrix is visible in the tracheal area, though it is minimal. I bought a really good nebulizer and have been using dmso in addition to CS at least 2X day. His drainage and cough are WAY better and the drainage that does exist is clear and very thin. I'm excited to see what the scope shows when I take him back. He's been on allergy shots for nearly 2 years now, too. My older gelding has the pythium allergy and is off pasture, but seems to be responding well to the vaccine. We'll see how things go when this series is done and he is on pasture again.
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grinandbareit - 2016-01-01 4:14 PM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-01 3:38 PM grinandbareit - 2016-01-01 12:14 PM I have been doing some research on the holistic approach to healing, and I am so excited about what I am finding out! I am actually making my own colloidal silver now, and I am incorporating some essential oils and "other stuff", I'm not prepared to discuss yet, lol. But it is sure showing promise for my horses. Especially Stormy! The more research I do, the more I wonder why we don't utilize some of these things, and why they aren't more main stream. I feel like it is a money thing for sure. I've always been a little into the holistic approach to things, but now, I may turn into that lady you run from when you see her coming! I am making my own colloidal silver and having great success with it. I'm making it about 20 - 30ppm which is working AWESOME in the nebulizer for my allergy plagued gelding. I'm mixing it with some "stuff" and I'm hoping to get a great report when we do our next scope in about 45 days. Anyone else make their own CS, or have some good holistic methods that they have found success with? Please post and let us know what it is! What allergens are setting your horse off? I've got one that seems to be much worse in the ragweed season. And dust...oh how I hate the drought we've been in. I sure hope its over!
May I suggest that you do a BAL and a Trach wash they will pick up different pathogenes. My vet scoped and said he's clean I don't think we're going to find anything...did a BAL and he had low grade inflammation. Thankfully no Mast cells.
I've found its best to use a mesh nebulizer. But really getting the meds in with a jet or ultrasonic are indeed helping the horse.
I had some amazing pictures on a mare that had a horrific injury that we used CS on to help her healing. I've been battling with this for two years... We've done the BAL and trach wash. This horse got super sick in Ok City his juvie year and came home with a 106 temp and stayed sick for 2 weeks... It caused some kind of an issue with his immune system. I have tried EVERYTHING and although I can use drugs to help his symptoms, it is doing nothing to solve the problem. I also have a pythium issue here. I believe that this a hughly misdiagnosed problem. We are doing the vaccine now, but cicatrix is visible in the tracheal area, though it is minimal. I bought a really good nebulizer and have been using dmso in addition to CS at least 2X day. His drainage and cough are WAY better and the drainage that does exist is clear and very thin. I'm excited to see what the scope shows when I take him back. He's been on allergy shots for nearly 2 years now, too. My older gelding has the pythium allergy and is off pasture, but seems to be responding well to the vaccine. We'll see how things go when this series is done and he is on pasture again. Joy, mine have the pythium issue also. We moved to our new place in April, one bled at Waco in September. I immediately had him scoped by vet on site and found the pythium. They had a mild cough which I attributed to allergies. Mine never coughed at my old place. I gave the vaccine to all 5 of mine, I had no stalls yet, just run ins, so all were still on pasture. Repeated scopes showed all healed while remaining on pasture. I scoped them every couple of months to keep tabs on it. They were clean till the following fall, gave the vaccine again and they cleared up. I give the vaccine annually now. Good luck,with yours, hope the vaccine works as well for you, not all horses respond to it. Matt gives me a throat wash that is great for the swelling and irritation.
It's amazing how common it is here... I didn't really have a problem with my sorrel horse until we got all that rain over the summer. I met with Bob, who makes the vaccine, and I think that Destiny will do fine with this set, but I truly believe that Stormy has a deeper issue, unfortunately. He got a set two years ago, right after he got so sick, but it didn't make a difference. Maybe his immune system has strengthed enough that it can help him this time. I'm really glad to hear that all of your horses responded well! That can sure give hope to people that are having issues.
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Location: Bandera, TX | rodeomom3 - 2016-01-01 7:20 PM If mine had not bled, I would not have had them scoped, thankfully we caught within a few months of initial exposure to whatever the irritant is. I agree about how common it is, no telling how many horses are not diagnosed. Many vets do not give the vaccine, A&M will not give it. I don't understand their thinking, even if it is nit effective for all horses it is worth trying. The vaccine is absolutely the only reason mine healed.
Did you have an Elisa test done?
I agree with your thinking on trying the vaccine.
I sure agree with Joy on the CS and the EO uses. Using oils that show antifungal properties could be of help to horses fighting pythium.
There are so many under the radar treatments such as: Sodium Chloride, dilute hydrochloric acid, Ozone (we have several guys in SA using this modality), LET, high dose Vit C and the old try and true for the old timers Fermented Wheat Germ Extracts. To boost the natural immune system. Really believe we have dumbed down the immune system with manmade products.
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I have also used essential oils for over 25 years and have had wonderful success with them too.
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Location: Delaware | I absolutely love my EO's but I had never hear of the CS until this post. Thanks for bringing it up! I've been reading up a ton on it and I am curious to try it for myself to help combat my Lyme disease.
My horse is also battling a lung infection and is currently on penicillin, do you guys think it would be ok to try for him as well? I have a nebulizer and was planning on starting to offer him EO's through it to help with the inflammation. But now I'm thinking maybe I should add some CS too.
I'm not sure what to do as far as dosage though, any recommendations?
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Location: almost heaven | Is anyone using DMSO or essential oils in the nebulizer for allergies? I have a horse that has severe lung inflammation from allergies. Just had him allergy tested and starting the vaccines as soon as I receive them but hoping to find something other than the CS to use in the nebulizer. |
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Location: Texas | megsm - 2016-01-02 3:25 PM
I absolutely love my EO's but I had never hear of the CS until this post. Thanks for bringing it up! I've been reading up a ton on it and I am curious to try it for myself to help combat my Lyme disease.
My horse is also battling a lung infection and is currently on penicillin, do you guys think it would be ok to try for him as well? I have a nebulizer and was planning on starting to offer him EO's through it to help with the inflammation. But now I'm thinking maybe I should add some CS too.
I'm not sure what to do as far as dosage though, any recommendations?
Just be careful what oils you use in the nebulizer... I tried it with some CS and tea tree oil, but it is too strong and irritated the lining of his nose. Eucalyptus seems to work okay, but none of the essential oils seem to have had a lasting effect.
Right now I am using about 4cc of DMSO and 4cc of colloidal silver in the nebulizer. I have a really good nebulizer (the cup part) that I just purchased online. It is a finer mist than the one that came with the original kit. You have to be careful with the essential oils in the plastic cup because it will leave a residue.
Another thing you can try with the EO is to mix them with a little dmso and apply them to the skin inside the flank area. You could probably mix it with some distilled water, put it in a clean spray bottle and spray it on. Just remember that wherever you use the dmso, clean the area first so that you don't introduce anything bad into the mix. Always use distilled water too.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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Location: Texas | N arrow farm - 2016-01-02 8:54 PM
Is anyone using DMSO or essential oils in the nebulizer for allergies? I have a horse that has severe lung inflammation from allergies. Just had him allergy tested and starting the vaccines as soon as I receive them but hoping to find something other than the CS to use in the nebulizer.
Did you have your horse scoped? Is the tracheal area clear or irritated? What did they see in the lungs? What treatment have you tried on him so far?
Read the post that I just replied to above, about the EO's.
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megsm - 2016-01-02 3:25 PM
I absolutely love my EO's but I had never hear of the CS until this post. Thanks for bringing it up! I've been reading up a ton on it and I am curious to try it for myself to help combat my Lyme disease.
My horse is also battling a lung infection and is currently on penicillin, do you guys think it would be ok to try for him as well? I have a nebulizer and was planning on starting to offer him EO's through it to help with the inflammation. But now I'm thinking maybe I should add some CS too.
I'm not sure what to do as far as dosage though, any recommendations?
Just be careful what oils you use in the nebulizer... I tried it with some CS and tea tree oil, but it is too strong and irritated the lining of his nose. Eucalyptus seems to work okay, but none of the essential oils seem to have had a lasting effect.
Right now I am using about 4cc of DMSO and 4cc of colloidal silver in the nebulizer. I have a really good nebulizer (the cup part ) that I just purchased online. It is a finer mist than the one that came with the original kit. You have to be careful with the essential oils in the plastic cup because it will leave a residue.
Another thing you can try with the EO is to mix them with a little dmso and apply them to the skin inside the flank area. You could probably mix it with some distilled water, put it in a clean spray bottle and spray it on. Just remember that wherever you use the dmso, clean the area first so that you don't introduce anything bad into the mix. Always use distilled water too.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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Location: almost heaven | I had a BL first he had also the of Mast cells , nuetraphils cells and mucus. Vet said this inflammation due to allergies. After trying acupuncture and herbal remedies and still the only way I can keep him comfortable is dex. The nebulizer with CS has helped a lot with his respiratory issues. I just had the dermal allergy testing done and he is highly allergic to several weeds trees and 1 grass in our area. The vet has a vaccine made up for his specific allergies and that is the vaccine or immuno therapy basically the same as in humans. I have heard others have great results with this but it takes approx 6 month to a year after starting it to really see the results I hear.
I am just looking for other ideas and success stories mainly with the nebulizer that may help in in the process. My next step is to get him scoped after a run just to see how he looks and make sure he is not bleeding any. |
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Location: Texas | N arrow farm - 2016-01-03 2:46 AM
I had a BL first he had also the of Mast cells , nuetraphils cells and mucus. Vet said this inflammation due to allergies. After trying acupuncture and herbal remedies and still the only way I can keep him comfortable is dex. The nebulizer with CS has helped a lot with his respiratory issues. I just had the dermal allergy testing done and he is highly allergic to several weeds trees and 1 grass in our area. The vet has a vaccine made up for his specific allergies and that is the vaccine or immuno therapy basically the same as in humans. I have heard others have great results with this but it takes approx 6 month to a year after starting it to really see the results I hear.
I am just looking for other ideas and success stories mainly with the nebulizer that may help in in the process. My next step is to get him scoped after a run just to see how he looks and make sure he is not bleeding any.
Have your vet pull blood and send it to Pan American Vet Labs so they can test for Pythium. It is a hugh issue that many vets aren't even aware of. The "vaccine" which is really more of an allergy shot series, costs about $125.
Since pythium is a fungus that is in the soil, it is difficult to get away from. Whenever your horse eats the grass, especially if it wet, he continues to irritate his throat . It's called Pythium Induced Respiratory Disease. It can be fatal if left untreated. Scar tissue, or cicatrix, develops on the trachea and blocks the airway. This lab is the only one that has developed a treatment for it and they have had great success. I'm going to try to do a youtube video with Bob, the owner/researcher of PAVL, so people will have more info when talking to their vet.
The symptoms of a pythium allergy include... clear runny nose, occassional cough turning chronic, that often turns into cold like symptoms due to secondary infection. Steriods and antibiotics will treat the symptoms but are doing nothing to help treat the cause. As soon as they come off the meds the symptoms return. Steroids diminish the effect of vaccines, so they are less effective if given together. Unfortunately, it is a vicious circle. BUT, it can be broken with the right information.
Another great thing for allergies is Spirulina... I have my gelding on Spirulina, but it takes awhile to see results with it, so don't give up, though I don't believe it will help the pythium problem.
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Let me also add... and stress the fact that... Your horse HAS to have a strong immune system if you are going to do any type of immune system treatments, like allergy shots. If they are on steroids and antibiotics, you should not do the shots. Make absolutely sure you get your horse as strong as possible so that the allergy shots can help them rather than harm them. If you are doing antibiotics, switch to the CS, as it won't have the side effects associated with most drugs. I use a pretty strong CS concentration and mix it with the dmso and drench it, if not it may not be utilized as well orally. Mixing it with dmso makes it easily absorbed and more likely to make it into the bloodstream.
Let me also add... this takes commitment. It's a pain in the behind to have to do this everyday, but I am seeing a pretty dry nose, without the use of drugs, for the first time in over 2 years. I'm hoping to get Stormy to the point that I can turn him out with few if any, issues. My other gelding is getting only the pythium vaccine and responding great! I expect to be able to turn him out in the next couple of weeks.
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Location: Bandera, TX | G&B, thank you for all of your info. Your using the DMSO with the CS like the guys at the track do.
I was talking to the rep for the MPTS 360 he has a product called "Clear Scope" if your looking to stay natural and expel congestion this may help.
I hear often of those that want to scope their horse post a run and I want to just remind you that sometimes the vet won't see blood. However, if you do a BAL there's the writing on the wall so to speak when the labs return.
I use both a jet nebulizer and ultrasonic/mesh nebulizer. When I have to get the meds to the alveoli level I use my Flexineb with my essential oils. When I'm trying to clear large airway congestion I may give a shot of Acetylcysteine and use the jet nebulizer over the course of a week to speed the expulsion. If I'm hearing tight sounds in the lung fields then albuterol. I try to stay away from the steroids for the same reasons G&B mentioned,my holistic stays on track a bit better I think.
I'm going to test a mare that I've turned into a broodie due to her chronic cough thanks again for all your posting G&B!!
PS, You want to share how your formulating the CS?
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Thanks U-D-T! I'm going to look up the flexineb... I've been fortunate and not had any lung issues in either of these horses. Their issues have all been upper respiratory. Though I have had sone in the past that had lung and bleeding issues... wish I knew then what I know now!
I have a pretty simple colloidal silver generator that I purchased online along with 10 guage 99.99% silver wire. I make a couple of quarts at a time of 20ppm colloidal silver. It is my understanding that you want different sized particles so that it can penetrate various sizes of cells, whether they be viral, bacterial, or fungal. You always want to use pure water with no contamination, so distilled is my choice.
Please remember that I may do lots of research, but I am only beginning this journey, I know there is TONS more that I will learn, that being said... I AM NO EXPERT, VET, OR MD. Please do your own research and don't base your decisions on what one person says. You may have to weed through some junk first, but there is a load of information on studies, personal experiences, etc. online and at your local library. Also, things sometimes take time to work, so if you don't see results after one or two tries or days, don't just give up, give it some time to work.
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-01 9:29 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-01-01 7:20 PM If mine had not bled, I would not have had them scoped, thankfully we caught within a few months of initial exposure to whatever the irritant is. I agree about how common it is, no telling how many horses are not diagnosed. Many vets do not give the vaccine, A&M will not give it. I don't understand their thinking, even if it is nit effective for all horses it is worth trying. The vaccine is absolutely the only reason mine healed. Did you have an Elisa test done?
I agree with your thinking on trying the vaccine.
I sure agree with Joy on the CS and the EO uses. Using oils that show antifungal properties could be of help to horses fighting pythium.
There are so many under the radar treatments such as: Sodium Chloride, dilute hydrochloric acid, Ozone (we have several guys in SA using this modality), LET, high dose Vit C and the old try and true for the old timers Fermented Wheat Germ Extracts. To boost the natural immune system. Really believe we have dumbed down the immune system with manmade products.
Our own LadyJockey helped me with a bleeder years ago and introduced me to EO. I used several but didn't get heavy into learning about them until about three years ago. I'm praying for the time to take bonifide courses.
I did not do the Elisa test, prior to the move, my horses were very healthy, barely even a cold in years. My vet mentioned it but they responded so well to the vaccine we didn't do it. I did essential oils on one horse, my other gelding acted like I was trying to kill him so he did not get them, both horses were a 3 on a scale of 10, both healed at the same rate as well as my other 2. The only time I had one not respond well was when he was on an antibiotic due to stepping on a nail. I really feel the antibiotic interfered with the vaccine. I gave him another dose after the meds were done and he responded then. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | rodeomom3 - 2016-01-03 3:01 PM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-01 9:29 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-01-01 7:20 PM If mine had not bled, I would not have had them scoped, thankfully we caught within a few months of initial exposure to whatever the irritant is. I agree about how common it is, no telling how many horses are not diagnosed. Many vets do not give the vaccine, A&M will not give it. I don't understand their thinking, even if it is nit effective for all horses it is worth trying. The vaccine is absolutely the only reason mine healed. Did you have an Elisa test done?
I agree with your thinking on trying the vaccine.
I sure agree with Joy on the CS and the EO uses. Using oils that show antifungal properties could be of help to horses fighting pythium.
There are so many under the radar treatments such as: Sodium Chloride, dilute hydrochloric acid, Ozone (we have several guys in SA using this modality), LET, high dose Vit C and the old try and true for the old timers Fermented Wheat Germ Extracts. To boost the natural immune system. Really believe we have dumbed down the immune system with manmade products.
Our own LadyJockey helped me with a bleeder years ago and introduced me to EO. I used several but didn't get heavy into learning about them until about three years ago. I'm praying for the time to take bonifide courses.
Another good example to me about the antibiotics "in the way". So glad to hear your results with the vaccine. I'm going to pull blood asap and have my horse tested.
Gals, what is your soil and subsoil like where your horses are? My horses are on heavy clay soils that hold in lots of moisture. That has me thinking about the epidemiology. I'm going to go back and read Dr. Mendoza's research. I wonder if there would be a treatment for our pastures. Have you looked into this? |
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Location: Delaware | cheryl makofka - 2016-01-03 12:21 AM
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I absolutely love my EO's but I had never hear of the CS until this post. Thanks for bringing it up! I've been reading up a ton on it and I am curious to try it for myself to help combat my Lyme disease.
My horse is also battling a lung infection and is currently on penicillin, do you guys think it would be ok to try for him as well? I have a nebulizer and was planning on starting to offer him EO's through it to help with the inflammation. But now I'm thinking maybe I should add some CS too.
I'm not sure what to do as far as dosage though, any recommendations?
Just be careful what oils you use in the nebulizer... I tried it with some CS and tea tree oil, but it is too strong and irritated the lining of his nose. Eucalyptus seems to work okay, but none of the essential oils seem to have had a lasting effect.
Right now I am using about 4cc of DMSO and 4cc of colloidal silver in the nebulizer. I have a really good nebulizer (the cup part ) that I just purchased online. It is a finer mist than the one that came with the original kit. You have to be careful with the essential oils in the plastic cup because it will leave a residue.
Another thing you can try with the EO is to mix them with a little dmso and apply them to the skin inside the flank area. You could probably mix it with some distilled water, put it in a clean spray bottle and spray it on. Just remember that wherever you use the dmso, clean the area first so that you don't introduce anything bad into the mix. Always use distilled water too.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
In the past 12 months there was a post where one woman used essential oils directly on her horse, she would rub one drop in the nostril.
I can't remember who it was, but she was having good luck with it
Thanks everyone!
My plan was to use frankincense in the nebulizer for the inflammation as far as the EO's go. I was curious as to the correct dosing on the CS though ? |
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Everything that I read and the people I've talked to say it is VERY difficult to treat the pastures and get rid of it. Our pastures have areas of clay and sandy loam. It spreads easily so you have to be careful when shredding or even driving on infected ground. I have had some root rot problems that I now know the cause of though. Guess that's a plus, lol. Fertilizing is one of the worst things you can do, as it makes it worse. We are going to try some stuff this spring... lime and a fungicide... to see if it helps. We're going to do graze-on, too. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | grinandbareit - 2016-01-03 7:03 PM Everything that I read and the people I've talked to say it is VERY difficult to treat the pastures and get rid of it. Our pastures have areas of clay and sandy loam. It spreads easily so you have to be careful when shredding or even driving on infected ground. I have had some root rot problems that I now know the cause of though. Guess that's a plus, lol. Fertilizing is one of the worst things you can do, as it makes it worse. We are going to try some stuff this spring... lime and a fungicide... to see if it helps. We're going to do graze-on, too.
Let me know how that goes. Thanks so much for spreading your knowledge! |
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Location: Bandera, TX | megsm - 2016-01-03 6:56 PM cheryl makofka - 2016-01-03 12:21 AM grinandbareit - 2016-01-02 9:47 PM megsm - 2016-01-02 3:25 PM I absolutely love my EO's but I had never hear of the CS until this post. Thanks for bringing it up! I've been reading up a ton on it and I am curious to try it for myself to help combat my Lyme disease. My horse is also battling a lung infection and is currently on penicillin, do you guys think it would be ok to try for him as well? I have a nebulizer and was planning on starting to offer him EO's through it to help with the inflammation. But now I'm thinking maybe I should add some CS too. I'm not sure what to do as far as dosage though, any recommendations? Just be careful what oils you use in the nebulizer... I tried it with some CS and tea tree oil, but it is too strong and irritated the lining of his nose. Eucalyptus seems to work okay, but none of the essential oils seem to have had a lasting effect. Right now I am using about 4cc of DMSO and 4cc of colloidal silver in the nebulizer. I have a really good nebulizer (the cup part ) that I just purchased online. It is a finer mist than the one that came with the original kit. You have to be careful with the essential oils in the plastic cup because it will leave a residue. Another thing you can try with the EO is to mix them with a little dmso and apply them to the skin inside the flank area. You could probably mix it with some distilled water, put it in a clean spray bottle and spray it on. Just remember that wherever you use the dmso, clean the area first so that you don't introduce anything bad into the mix. Always use distilled water too. Keep us posted on how it goes! In the past 12 months there was a post where one woman used essential oils directly on her horse, she would rub one drop in the nostril. I can't remember who it was, but she was having good luck with it Thanks everyone! My plan was to use frankincense in the nebulizer for the inflammation as far as the EO's go. I was curious as to the correct dosing on the CS though ?
EO's that work in the neb for inflammation: Copaiba and Frankincense I've found that I can cut my dosage in half when I'm nebulizing the EO's. You might want to just try 5 drops of the Copaiba and Frankincense and watch for a favorable response.
When your mixing your EO's try to use glass bottles so you have no loss to the plastic nor any residues from the plastic ending up in your animal.
Hyssop is very good for expelling anything from the body. Dr. Shelton uses 1 drop per 500# try it via petting on the inside hind leg or drop in the gums.
Be careful on using to much 'phenols' in neb treatments. They can irritate. Use your EO guide to help you. |
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-03 10:13 PM
megsm - 2016-01-03 6:56 PM cheryl makofka - 2016-01-03 12:21 AM grinandbareit - 2016-01-02 9:47 PM megsm - 2016-01-02 3:25 PM I absolutely love my EO's but I had never hear of the CS until this post. Thanks for bringing it up! I've been reading up a ton on it and I am curious to try it for myself to help combat my Lyme disease. My horse is also battling a lung infection and is currently on penicillin, do you guys think it would be ok to try for him as well? I have a nebulizer and was planning on starting to offer him EO's through it to help with the inflammation. But now I'm thinking maybe I should add some CS too. I'm not sure what to do as far as dosage though, any recommendations? Just be careful what oils you use in the nebulizer... I tried it with some CS and tea tree oil, but it is too strong and irritated the lining of his nose. Eucalyptus seems to work okay, but none of the essential oils seem to have had a lasting effect. Right now I am using about 4cc of DMSO and 4cc of colloidal silver in the nebulizer. I have a really good nebulizer (the cup part ) that I just purchased online. It is a finer mist than the one that came with the original kit. You have to be careful with the essential oils in the plastic cup because it will leave a residue. Another thing you can try with the EO is to mix them with a little dmso and apply them to the skin inside the flank area. You could probably mix it with some distilled water, put it in a clean spray bottle and spray it on. Just remember that wherever you use the dmso, clean the area first so that you don't introduce anything bad into the mix. Always use distilled water too. Keep us posted on how it goes! In the past 12 months there was a post where one woman used essential oils directly on her horse, she would rub one drop in the nostril. I can't remember who it was, but she was having good luck with it Thanks everyone! My plan was to use frankincense in the nebulizer for the inflammation as far as the EO's go. I was curious as to the correct dosing on the CS though ?
When your mixing your EO's try to use glass bottles so you have no loss to the plastic nor any residues from the plastic ending up in your animal.
Hyssop is very good for expelling anything from the body. Dr. Shelton uses 1 drop per 500# try it via petting on the inside hind leg or drop in the gums.
Be careful on using to much 'phenols' in neb treatments. They can irritate. Use your EO guide to help you.
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Location: Bandera, TX | Together, remember that Copiaba is a potentiator of whatever it's used with. |
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Together, remember that Copiaba is a potentiator of whatever it's used with.
I have frankincense, but I haven't tried it. Would it be irritating in the neb if it isn't diluted?
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-03 9:19 PM grinandbareit - 2016-01-03 7:03 PM Everything that I read and the people I've talked to say it is VERY difficult to treat the pastures and get rid of it. Our pastures have areas of clay and sandy loam. It spreads easily so you have to be careful when shredding or even driving on infected ground. I have had some root rot problems that I now know the cause of though. Guess that's a plus, lol. Fertilizing is one of the worst things you can do, as it makes it worse. We are going to try some stuff this spring... lime and a fungicide... to see if it helps. We're going to do graze-on, too. Let me know how that goes. Thanks so much for spreading your knowledge!
My vet said they actually don't have Pythium, that they don't actually know what the irritant is, it could be different for some horses. He said thru trial and error they found that the Pythium vaccine us effective on whatever this is. He went on to say research is being done to try and pinpoint the specific irritant which will help finding a cure. |
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uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-03 9:19 PM grinandbareit - 2016-01-03 7:03 PM Everything that I read and the people I've talked to say it is VERY difficult to treat the pastures and get rid of it. Our pastures have areas of clay and sandy loam. It spreads easily so you have to be careful when shredding or even driving on infected ground. I have had some root rot problems that I now know the cause of though. Guess that's a plus, lol. Fertilizing is one of the worst things you can do, as it makes it worse. We are going to try some stuff this spring... lime and a fungicide... to see if it helps. We're going to do graze-on, too. Let me know how that goes. Thanks so much for spreading your knowledge!
This is absolutely true... which is why the vaccine is effective for so many different allergens.
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| grinandbareit - 2016-01-04 11:59 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-01-04 8:39 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-03 9:19 PM grinandbareit - 2016-01-03 7:03 PM Everything that I read and the people I've talked to say it is VERY difficult to treat the pastures and get rid of it. Our pastures have areas of clay and sandy loam. It spreads easily so you have to be careful when shredding or even driving on infected ground. I have had some root rot problems that I now know the cause of though. Guess that's a plus, lol. Fertilizing is one of the worst things you can do, as it makes it worse. We are going to try some stuff this spring... lime and a fungicide... to see if it helps. We're going to do graze-on, too. Let me know how that goes. Thanks so much for spreading your knowledge! This is absolutely true... which is why the vaccine is effective for so many different allergens.
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We are going to treat for the pythium. And any weed that could be causing issues. Since it lives in the ground, we are going to disc it up and put lime down. No fertilizer and I'm checking up on what we can use as a fungicide to treat the area where we keep the horses. We're in the experimental stage, lol. If the vaccine works then it won't be such a big deal.
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| I told my husband we were going to burn ours and start over ??????. We have 100 acres, I do have an 8 acre pasture that they stay in at night weather permitting, that I could treat. I know he won't do our whole place. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-01-04 1:30 PM
I told my husband we were going to burn ours and start over ??????. We have 100 acres, I do have an 8 acre pasture that they stay in at night weather permitting, that I could treat. I know he won't do our whole place.
Check with your vet to make sure burning will kill it. We had some cows come up with Yohne's disease, (I know I didn't spell it right). Any way it usually is a dairy cattle disease and it is spread through contact with manure and then it gets in the soil/grass. It was some kind of fungus/bacteria that caused wasting away. Nothing you can do for it. The only way to get rid of it was to test cattle, send the infected ones to slaughter and keep cattle off the contaminated pastures for 1 year. We kept them off for 2 years. We asked about burning and they said it wouldn't help. |
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Location: Down South | grinandbareit - 2016-01-04 1:54 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-04 12:15 AM Together, remember that Copiaba is a potentiator of whatever it's used with. I have frankincense, but I haven't tried it. Would it be irritating in the neb if it isn't diluted?
Is this mixture of 5 drops of Copiaba and 5 drops of Frankincense being diluted with Saline in the nebulator? |
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grinandbareit - 2016-01-04 1:54 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-04 12:15 AM Together, remember that Copiaba is a potentiator of whatever it's used with. I have frankincense, but I haven't tried it. Would it be irritating in the neb if it isn't diluted?
There was a post on here about a week or so ago I believe where someone with the Equi-resp units said essential oils should not be used with these breathing treatments? I do not remember what the thread/post title was though. |
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grinandbareit - 2016-01-04 1:54 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-04 12:15 AM Together, remember that Copiaba is a potentiator of whatever it's used with. I have frankincense, but I haven't tried it. Would it be irritating in the neb if it isn't diluted?
There was a post on here about a week or so ago I believe where someone with the Equi-resp units said essential oils should not be used with these breathing treatments? I do not remember what the thread/post title was though.
Wow, I wonder why? Aromatherapists will tell you one of the safest ways to use essential oils is with a diffuser or in hot water with a towel to tent over your head. |
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grinandbareit - 2016-01-04 1:54 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-04 12:15 AM Together, remember that Copiaba is a potentiator of whatever it's used with. I have frankincense, but I haven't tried it. Would it be irritating in the neb if it isn't diluted?
There was a post on here about a week or so ago I believe where someone with the Equi-resp units said essential oils should not be used with these breathing treatments? I do not remember what the thread/post title was though.
Wow, I wonder why? Aromatherapists will tell you one of the safest ways to use essential oils is with a diffuser or in hot water with a towel to tent over your head.
I cannot remember why, I am trying to find the thread but I haven't found it yet. I was telling my mother-in-law about it, she is big into essential oils, and she said she agreed with not using them in the Equi-resp/nebulizer treatments even if they are diluted. Said they are too strong to inhale directly like that versus using a diffuser. |
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| miss_n_cinch13 - 2017-01-26 10:29 AM
GLP - 2017-01-26 9:58 AM
miss_n_cinch13 - 2017-01-26 9:12 AM
Chilly - 2017-01-25 12:57 PM
grinandbareit - 2016-01-04 1:54 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-01-04 12:15 AM Together, remember that Copiaba is a potentiator of whatever it's used with. I have frankincense, but I haven't tried it. Would it be irritating in the neb if it isn't diluted?
There was a post on here about a week or so ago I believe where someone with the Equi-resp units said essential oils should not be used with these breathing treatments? I do not remember what the thread/post title was though.
Wow, I wonder why? Aromatherapists will tell you one of the safest ways to use essential oils is with a diffuser or in hot water with a towel to tent over your head.
I cannot remember why, I am trying to find the thread but I haven't found it yet. I was telling my mother-in-law about it, she is big into essential oils, and she said she agreed with not using them in the Equi-resp/nebulizer treatments even if they are diluted. Said they are too strong to inhale directly like that versus using a diffuser.
Oh, you know, it maybe that the oils will damage the plastic tubes. I know that they do warn you about that on some tools in aromatherapy. It seems like I have read warnings in some of my books. |
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