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Location: The Great Northwest | I tried on my horse and notice nothing better. I used it for three months. I had some for myself and noticed nothing or change.  |
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| If you do decide to try it, be sure to contact Dr. Schell. You can reach him on secondvet.com or email through nouvelleresearch.com. Be sure to tell all of your horse's issues and what you feed. He will give you his recommendations. He is the one who developed and makes Cur Ost. I did that and followed his instructions even though I really did not want to feed oats but I am glad I did. |
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Location: NE Texas | Great stuff, but to get the ultimate results you really need to remove any contributing factors such as processed grains, other supplements with synthetic ingredients, and pre or probiotics. It's important to make sure you get the right formulas for your specific condition, as some similar issues like copd/iad are treated totally differently, as one is a wet condition and one is a dry condition. A good rule of thumb is that if you aren't seeing results in 2 weeks, you either still have something contributing or the mix isn't quite right. Sometimes these chronic conditions can be quite a puzzle, and unfortunately alot of the people who come to this choice are doing so bc everything else has failed (like me). It may take him more than once to get the perfect combo, esp considering he is basing his opinion on what products are right with only the information we provide him and never seeing the horse itself. We have to remember other people/vets who have seen our horses in person have not got the situation under control either, including us, as their owners. With any program, if you're not seeing improvement in 2 weeks , you need to reevaluate. When I first started this journey in march, I was skeptical to say the least. I followed Dr Schell's advice to a T and haven't looked back. I was terrified to take my horse off all medications and put him on oats, but it is the best decision I've ever made for my program and all horses in my barn are now on the Total Support.
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Location: Louisiana | I'll be sure to update my results! :)
I ordered a couple days ago to try on my 14yo arthritic rodeo gelding. His last checkup and X-rays I was recommended to do 6 joint injections, $1200 worth, along with a daily double dose of previcox.
I'm willing to risk a few hundred to help him naturally. He'll let me know if it works lol. |
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| I will be one to say that even on Curost you still may need to inject a joint if it's totally necessary. I sent X-rays to dr Schell and we were able to change my shoeing and even my Shoer but we fixed the coffin joint without re injecting it. However my horse has an old injury spavin on left hind hock that really does need injecting. Dr Schell agreed. However, my horse usually needs it done every 6 months. It's been 9 now and he is still going fine! So hoping the Curost at least pushes it to a year.
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| For those of you consulting with Dr. Schell-did you pay the $150.00 consult fee?
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I can't tell a difference in soundness. My horse still travels better after a shot of Pentosan. But for his respiratory/eyesight problems, it's been a miracle. Not exaggerating. I could tell a difference at 5 days, huge difference by 10 days, and he blew me away with how well he ran at 3 weeks. |
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Location: Louisiana | FLITASTIC - 2016-01-02 12:25 PM I will be one to say that even on Curost you still may need to inject a joint if it's totally necessary. I sent X-rays to dr Schell and we were able to change my shoeing and even my Shoer but we fixed the coffin joint without re injecting it. However my horse has an old injury spavin on left hind jock that really does need injecting. Dr Schell agreed. However, my horse usually needs it done every 6 months. It's been 9 now and he is still going fine! So hoping the Curost at least pushes it to a year.
Oh yes completely agree!
I don't plan on not having to inject anything, just reduced hopefully.
He has a chip and spur on his right knee, nothing is going to make that disappear.
I do have high hopes for his hind end arthritis as its more on the mild side, and I think due to conformation rather than use.
If I can get twice as long out of my injection time, I will be spending the same amount of $$ per year, without poking my horse as often.
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| BMW - 2016-01-02 1:38 PM
For those of you consulting with Dr. Schell-did you pay the $150.00 consult fee?
Nope, but I just emailed him or asked on the forum. My horses were pretty straight forward though. |
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| BMW - 2016-01-02 11:38 AM
For those of you consulting with Dr. Schell-did you pay the $150.00 consult fee?
Once yes, and another time no. I sent some quick hock xrays and there was no analysis, we just confirmed what my horse had and that was it. THen I did pay the consult fee for a RF foot evaluation. I sent xrays and detailed treatment list. The 150 was WELL WORTH it. Dr. Schell responded by marking up my xrays and labeling them. He then provided a DETAILED and I mean DETAILED summary with recommendations. My shoer did not agree and shrugged me off. I changed shoers and we followed his recommendations and the front end lameness was stopped. He feels and is working great. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | The Total Support didn't do much for us, but the Stomach and Adapt are wonderful. Just finished first bag and my horse is a lot calmer and looks better. |
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| any peoples take it and how did this help you and what conditions do you have. |
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Location: NE Texas | If you're dealing with a lameness, the total support may not be the best choice. There are other formulas that offer a bigger impact if it is lameness you're trying to improve. This is why I always suggest people getting a consult or posting on secondvet to ensure they get the right formulas for your specific conditions. I have improved a horse with a lameness and know of others who have had pretty incredible results after spending a ton of money on all kinds of different procedures and treatments. That being said, it took some trial and error to find the perfect combo for her horses. Lots of options and Dr Schell's knowledge and willingness to help even when we don't totally get it and are a bit hard headed as to things that contribute to the very issues were trying to improve. As for the consult fee, yes, and will again if needed. I don't expect anyone to evaluate my hirse whether it be in person or over the phone. Their time and knowledge is valuable I am happy to compensate someone for sharing their knowledge with me. Plus, it allows Dr Schell to keep a patient file on my horse that he can review in the future of needed. That svc and the accessibility (which I'm sure is nerve racking at times) is what makes this company unique, aside from the product being amazing, and a step ahead in my opinion. |
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Location: NE Texas | daisycake123 - 2016-01-02 4:39 PM
any peoples take it and how did this help you and what conditions do you have.
Yes I do and I have posted about in on those threads that have been moved to the product research forum. I'm on my phone, so difficult to post here again. Lots more info over there. |
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| daisycake123 - 2016-01-02 4:39 PM
any peoples take it and how did this help you and what conditions do you have.
I have bad sinuses, joints that ache when I sit/drive for more than a few minutes, knee that gets stiff/sore after riding and varicose veins and high blood pressure. Sinuses are doing much better, joints don't bother me and blood pressure is high normal and I haven't been working out this month. I take the Ultimate and am on the Immune too. This is the season when my asthma and allergies get bad so I will be on the immune for a while. If I forget to take it for a couple days I'll notice it. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Here is my proof. The palomino had terrible allergies and was on tons of 'aids' all that have been eliminated and she is eating the very thing she was allergic too.
The bay's didn't have pre exisiting conditions, nor did they do the loading dose.
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Location: North Dakota | I started Cur Ost on my COPD mare just over two weeks ago. I started the Total support and Immune. I haven't seen a complete turn around like others did but I have noticed several positive improvements. She has a lot more energy and she is happier(she was quite the grouch before!!) and that improvement in two weeks has me very excited to see what two more weeks on Cur Ost does for her.
I just consulted Dr. Schell on the SecondVet Forum a week ago or so and ordered some products for my 23 y/o arthritic gelding. Hoping to get him comfortable again and get back to some light riding. Just got his product in the mail today so I can't wait to start him tonight. I also moved over to oats, flax and quality hay (50/50 grass, alfalfa) from processed feeds and TONS of supplements. This makes feeding time simple and if I continue to see positive improvements, it will be a win-win all around!
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Location: NE Texas | MidWest1452 - 2016-01-04 2:47 PM I started Cur Ost on my COPD mare just over two weeks ago. I started the Total support and Immune. I haven't seen a complete turn around like others did but I have noticed several positive improvements. She has a lot more energy and she is happier (she was quite the grouch before!! ) and that improvement in two weeks has me very excited to see what two more weeks on Cur Ost does for her. I just consulted Dr. Schell on the SecondVet Forum a week ago or so and ordered some products for my 23 y/o arthritic gelding. Hoping to get him comfortable again and get back to some light riding. Just got his product in the mail today so I can't wait to start him tonight. I also moved over to oats, flax and quality hay (50/50 grass, alfalfa ) from processed feeds and TONS of supplements. This makes feeding time simple and if I continue to see positive improvements, it will be a win-win all around!
My respiratory issues weren't 100% gone in 14 days, but I was able to start exercising my horse and encouraging him to cough. At the 14 day mark, I still had quite a bit of coughing and that's when I began being able to lunge him to encourage the cough and movement of the phlegm up and out. Don't be afraid to exercise your mare very lightly even if she is coughing. The only way to improve these respiratory conditions is to get the trash up and out. The tough things about these, and any condition, is that the level of improvement is direclty related to how much scar tissue is present and how long the condition has been plaguing our horse. Sometimes it takes YEARS for our horses to develop these conditions.
In 30 days I had a new horse. Yes, he still coughed some and occasionally will still cough and clear his throat, but he's not suffocating in front of me and he's able to be ridden and hauled. Hang in there! I'm anxious to hear how your gelding does as well. Isn't it nice to have things simplified and see the results! |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Herbie - 2016-01-04 3:38 PM MidWest1452 - 2016-01-04 2:47 PM I started Cur Ost on my COPD mare just over two weeks ago. I started the Total support and Immune. I haven't seen a complete turn around like others did but I have noticed several positive improvements. She has a lot more energy and she is happier (she was quite the grouch before!! ) and that improvement in two weeks has me very excited to see what two more weeks on Cur Ost does for her. I just consulted Dr. Schell on the SecondVet Forum a week ago or so and ordered some products for my 23 y/o arthritic gelding. Hoping to get him comfortable again and get back to some light riding. Just got his product in the mail today so I can't wait to start him tonight. I also moved over to oats, flax and quality hay (50/50 grass, alfalfa ) from processed feeds and TONS of supplements. This makes feeding time simple and if I continue to see positive improvements, it will be a win-win all around!
In 30 days I had a new horse. Yes, he still coughed some and occasionally will still cough and clear his throat, but he's not suffocating in front of me and he's able to be ridden and hauled. Hang in there! I'm anxious to hear how your gelding does as well. Isn't it nice to have things simplified and see the results!
Our warm up cough was gone in 5 days, but when I ran him at day 10 he came out sneezing and snorting and blowing chunks out of his head. Herbie was like GOOD, we're getting somewhere when I talked to her about it. LOL The next run I made was at the 3 week period and not only did he come out breathing easy, he was more focused and had totally stopped shying because he could SEE clearly. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-01-04 2:36 PM
Herbie - 2016-01-04 3:38 PM MidWest1452 - 2016-01-04 2:47 PM I started Cur Ost on my COPD mare just over two weeks ago. I started the Total support and Immune. I haven't seen a complete turn around like others did but I have noticed several positive improvements. She has a lot more energy and she is happier (she was quite the grouch before!! ) and that improvement in two weeks has me very excited to see what two more weeks on Cur Ost does for her. I just consulted Dr. Schell on the SecondVet Forum a week ago or so and ordered some products for my 23 y/o arthritic gelding. Hoping to get him comfortable again and get back to some light riding. Just got his product in the mail today so I can't wait to start him tonight. I also moved over to oats, flax and quality hay (50/50 grass, alfalfa ) from processed feeds and TONS of supplements. This makes feeding time simple and if I continue to see positive improvements, it will be a win-win all around!
In 30 days I had a new horse. Yes, he still coughed some and occasionally will still cough and clear his throat, but he's not suffocating in front of me and he's able to be ridden and hauled. Hang in there! I'm anxious to hear how your gelding does as well. Isn't it nice to have things simplified and see the results!
My COPD guy at about day 5 would just put his head down and let the junk run out his nose! |
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Location: North Dakota | She only coughed one time today and that was when I was brushing her before I rode. I'm hoping I'm doing enough on the exercise part to get anything that's in there moving up and out. I've only been able to ride 2-3 times a week the last few weeks when normally it was 5-6 times before. She defiantly isn't taking any steps backwards in her health so I have faith that with some more time she will be better than ever.
I'm also very anxious to see how my gelding does. By direction of Dr. Schell, I started him on the loading dose of the Pure formula today. I was jumping up and down like a crazy person tonight cause my gelding actually ate it. He normally sticks his nose up at any powder in his grain and I was certain with the high levels in the Pure formula and banana smell he would pick around it.. But instead I came back into the barn to find that he had licked his bucket clean. So happy! |
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Location: North Dakota | daisycake123 - 2016-01-02 4:39 PM any peoples take it and how did this help you and what conditions do you have.
I've talked about it in other threads but I'll do it again. I have extreme chronic neck/back pain. I've had x-rays and MRI done. Tried PT, chiro, massage, injections, accupuncture, all that. Nothing has helped. Then a going on 2 years ago, I developed horrible inflammation in my knees. I'm in my 20's and have no arthritis or physical reason for this pain. They just hurt. Non-stop but especially when standing up/sitting down. Standing up from a seat where I couldn't push myself up with my arms literally made me cry! I tried the Cur-Ost out of desperation and it has not helped my back at all, but I think the issue there is more than any regular pain killer can handle. BUT it cleared up my knee pain quickly! It is COMPLETELY gone. Once I was off it for a week and I could start to feel the pain coming back so it's not like my knees just stopped hurting on their own. It is the Cur-Ost keeping me "sound". |
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Location: Louisiana | Well my gelding is eating it!
Pure, which is strangely banana flavored, Stomach, and Adapt. He has a little bit left in his bucket, but he has eaten the bulk of it and keeps going back for more in between bites of alfalfa :)
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| I am a psychology professor. I have come to the conclusion that Curost has made me OCD!!! It has worked so well on my bay horse that I have started to " look" for problems in my colt. The way he stands, eats, acts etc. any little off step I make mental note. Lol it sucks. He is such a nice, winning , once in a lifetime horse that I am going nuts over Curost formulas. Lol. I am keeping him on total support and doing like the country song says " shut up and ride". |
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-01-05 11:21 AM
I am a psychology professor. I have come to the conclusion that Curost has made me OCD!!! It has worked so well on my bay horse that I have started to " look" for problems in my colt. The way he stands, eats, acts etc. any little off step I make mental note. Lol it sucks. He is such a nice, winning , once in a lifetime horse that I am going nuts over Curost formulas. Lol. I am keeping him on total support and doing like the country song says " shut up and ride".
Don't say that! I am hoping that my OCD tendencies will STOP once I get my horses on CurOst! |
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