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Location: London Ontario | Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated!
I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge? |
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Location: Texas | According to my vet, the Succeed test is not reliable to diagnose ulcers. He says a worm can cause blood in the fecal. |
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Location: London Ontario | So how does he diagnose? |
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Location: Texas | MC1993 - 2016-01-04 11:55 AM So how does he diagnose?
He says a horse with hind gut ulcers is SICK, and I don't remember what he said the symptoms were.
I treated one I suspected had ulcers with omeprezole from horseprerace and she improved. I think you can also buy ranitadine from that place. I don't think I'd try the misoprostol because of the hormones in it. |
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| We had a mare we thought was colicing. She would stand stretched out and lay down, but never rolled. We treated her with fluids. She would poop in the trailer before we even shut the trailer door. She would drink good and as I was slowly reintroducing her hay, no feed, she would stand stretched out about 20 minutes after eating. Her poop was also dark in color. After I told the vet about the stretching, he said she probably had hindgut ulcers. Treated her for that and have had no more problems and it has been a year. |
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Location: NE Texas | Order the Stomach product from www.nouvelleresearch.com. You'll be glad you did! |
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Location: Mississippi | I have used the Succeed test. The results were vague, but vet recommended treating for ulcers because there were slight positive signs. I opted for the Oxygen treatment - Oxy Ulcer plus the Oxy Max - talk to the lady that is the source for that. After treatment, my mare started firing and running like normal again. Hair coat looked better than it had since I have owned her. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | MC1993 - 2016-01-04 10:44 AM Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated! I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge?
I can ship you a bag of GastroPLUS that works on hind gut ulcers as well for $115.95 (shipped). It has a 45 day money back guarantee less the shipping. I'd personally save the money to look for ulcers and just treat for them instead. |
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Location: London Ontario | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-01-04 2:41 PM
MC1993 - 2016-01-04 10:44 AM Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated! I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge?
I can ship you a bag of GastroPLUS that works on hind gut ulcers as well for $115.95 (shipped). It has a 45 day money back guarantee less the shipping. I'd personally save the money to look for ulcers and just treat for them instead.
How long will the bag last me with one horse? |
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| MC1993 - 2016-01-04 11:44 AM
Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated!
I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge?
I believe your vet is selling you the compounded omeprazole from summit labs, and that price seems about right.
If you treated with gastroguard it would be over 1000 for the month.
I know of a few people who did the full 30 day regime of omeprazole without effect, and then switched to green clay which you can get at nutters for 12.00 and their horses turned around it was like night and day.
As much as I have read hind gut ulcers cannot be cured by omeprazole alone. You need to change the diet, eliminate the stressors.
Redmond salt also has a clay they sell to treat ulcers, I used this on one mare who I kept on omeprazole while competing, she would grind her teeth when stresses. With the clay, I have no more teeth grinding. This product is liscensed in Canada now, but I haven't found a spot that sells it yet. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2016-01-04 1:41 PM
MC1993 - 2016-01-04 10:44 AM Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated! I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge?
I can ship you a bag of GastroPLUS that works on hind gut ulcers as well for $115.95 (shipped). It has a 45 day money back guarantee less the shipping. I'd personally save the money to look for ulcers and just treat for them instead.
THIS ^^^^ smartest thing I ever did for my horse. |
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| MC1993 - 2016-01-04 2:18 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2016-01-04 2:41 PM
MC1993 - 2016-01-04 10:44 AM Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated! I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge?
I can ship you a bag of GastroPLUS that works on hind gut ulcers as well for $115.95 (shipped). It has a 45 day money back guarantee less the shipping. I'd personally save the money to look for ulcers and just treat for them instead.
How long will the bag last me with one horse?
You can order different sized bags with different amounts (days of treatment) in them.
One 30 day course was all my mare needed, then on to ulcer prevent daily. 100% different for the better. I saw marked improvements in her attitude in just 5 days (and she was not in a heat cycle or coming into or out of one when I treated her). |
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Location: London Ontario | cheryl makofka - 2016-01-04 4:01 PM
MC1993 - 2016-01-04 11:44 AM
Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated!
I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge?
I believe your vet is selling you the compounded omeprazole from summit labs, and that price seems about right.
If you treated with gastroguard it would be over 1000 for the month.
I know of a few people who did the full 30 day regime of omeprazole without effect, and then switched to green clay which you can get at nutters for 12.00 and their horses turned around it was like night and day.
As much as I have read hind gut ulcers cannot be cured by omeprazole alone. You need to change the diet, eliminate the stressors.
Redmond salt also has a clay they sell to treat ulcers, I used this on one mare who I kept on omeprazole while competing, she would grind her teeth when stresses. With the clay, I have no more teeth grinding. This product is liscensed in Canada now, but I haven't found a spot that sells it yet.
IS this Daily Gold? I just got bag and thought it said Redmond on it... |
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| MC1993 - 2016-01-04 3:35 PM
cheryl makofka - 2016-01-04 4:01 PM
MC1993 - 2016-01-04 11:44 AM
Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated!
I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge?
I believe your vet is selling you the compounded omeprazole from summit labs, and that price seems about right.
If you treated with gastroguard it would be over 1000 for the month.
I know of a few people who did the full 30 day regime of omeprazole without effect, and then switched to green clay which you can get at nutters for 12.00 and their horses turned around it was like night and day.
As much as I have read hind gut ulcers cannot be cured by omeprazole alone. You need to change the diet, eliminate the stressors.
Redmond salt also has a clay they sell to treat ulcers, I used this on one mare who I kept on omeprazole while competing, she would grind her teeth when stresses. With the clay, I have no more teeth grinding. This product is liscensed in Canada now, but I haven't found a spot that sells it yet.
IS this Daily Gold? I just got bag and thought it said Redmond on it...
Yes that is what it is called.
Where did you get it? |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | MC1993 - 2016-01-04 1:18 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2016-01-04 2:41 PM
MC1993 - 2016-01-04 10:44 AM Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated! I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge?
I can ship you a bag of GastroPLUS that works on hind gut ulcers as well for $115.95 (shipped). It has a 45 day money back guarantee less the shipping. I'd personally save the money to look for ulcers and just treat for them instead.
How long will the bag last me with one horse?
a 32 dose bag will last 28 days if you do the 2 scoops a day for 5 days loading dose. But it does wonders for them. Most of my customers get by great with just that bag and some others keep them on it on their rodeo horses just through the rodeo season. |
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Location: TN | I did the suceed fecal blood test on a mare we were trying to rule out ulcers. the test was negitive and we latter found the cause of her problems. I think it was worth the money. its like a test we do at the hospital. I would scope if you have a positive result. There is no DVM with a scope close here. |
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Location: London Ontario | The test s $45 and a bottle of Omep is $145. I am thinking we just skip the test and treat. Just off symptoms, I am almost positive she has ulcers. We are also going to go over chiro and teeth once he gets here and decide which she needs more(wont do both the same day).
She is turned out dawn to after dusk everyday with unlimited feed. I am slowly trying to wean her off her grain, she is on Tribute Kalm n Ez. She is just such a picky mare, but I am wondering if this is from her tummy hurting. Ideally I would like to keep her on Alfalfa pellets or beet pulp and soaked hay cubes.
Cheryl, I got it off a friend from Facebook. http://www.redmondequine.com/dailygold/ that's the website and you can buy online or it has a dealer locater as well. |
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Location: North Dakota | If stateline tack delivers to you Canadians, look there for the Redmonds |
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Location: Kentucky | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-01-04 2:41 PM MC1993 - 2016-01-04 10:44 AM Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated! I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge? I can ship you a bag of GastroPLUS that works on hind gut ulcers as well for $115.95 (shipped). It has a 45 day money back guarantee less the shipping. I'd personally save the money to look for ulcers and just treat for them instead.
This stuff WORKS! Cleaned up my mare who had cow-patty poops for over a month! Cleaned her up in 2 days!! |
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Location: IL | Omeprazole does not treat hindgut ulcers, only ulcers in the foregut (stomach). Just an FYI...I did the Succeed fecal test and my gelding tested positive both fore and hindgut. My mare only tested positive for hindgut.
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I did the fecal test, treated for what the test said to treat for, got results. My mare also had other symptoms too like going off feed when put under stress like hauling and just plain looking dull/ ganted up.
What I did: treat with omeprazole granules from Abler.com (ships from canada, proven to work- found the info in a vet book at work). Cost $3/day treatment dose. I used paste from horseprerace if she didnt feel good enough to eat her grain and usually 1 full dose of that ($7 tube) she would be eating in a few hours.
What she (and all my others now) eat: Turned out 24/7 with shelter. Come up to eat grain (low starch, high fat, high fiber, low volume), out to free choice hay and a small lot (a cres total) with grass. When hauling all get put on a small amount of alfalfa hay each day and get a hay bag in front of them while on the road 24/7. My ulcer prones get the omep granules half dose day before, full dose day of, and half dose the day after. Sometimes I'm lazy and use the paste. This particular mare is also on SmartGut Ultra during hauling season. |
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| Murphy - 2016-01-05 10:17 AM
wyoming barrel racer - 2016-01-04 2:41 PM MC1993 - 2016-01-04 10:44 AM Anyone had their vet do a Suceed Fecal blood test? My vet is going to charge me $45 - which seems reasonable. It's done stall side and has results in 10 minutes. It will tell you if there is ulcers in hind or fore gut. I've never dealt with ulcers before so any info is appreciated! I am also curious to see what people get charged for a bottle of Omeprazole. In South Western Ontario, Canada they are going to charge $145 a bottle. Where are you and what does your vet charge? I can ship you a bag of GastroPLUS that works on hind gut ulcers as well for $115.95 (shipped). It has a 45 day money back guarantee less the shipping. I'd personally save the money to look for ulcers and just treat for them instead.
how come i cannot find this anywhere when i google search it? we have a horse that suffers from bad uclers and have used The Succeed product on him but an interested in the GastroPlus. |
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Location: London Ontario | So what DOES cure ulcers? Hay in front of her at all time, weaning off processed grain..what else???? Will Gastro Plus Cure or prevent? |
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| You have to figure what is causing them. With my gelding, it is stress from anything (he is a silent worrier) and processed feeds. My daughter's mare is being stalled and she must have a friend with her at all times. |
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Location: London Ontario | Okay, I just don't know what else I can do. Hay infront of her 24/7, turn out 12 hours, not hauling yet, weaning off processed feed...UGH |
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Location: IL | I have dealt with ulcers several times and really it is something you will have to manage all the time. I took my off processed feeds. They get a 1 lb of oats at night. I also have slow feed hay nets so the hay lasts longer and they aren't sitting on an empty stomach. If your horse is in pain anywhere, like hocks and you are not aware you will never get rid of the ulcers. Pain causes a horse to stress and produce more acid in their stomach. I have used omeprazole 28 days and the ulcers were gone, but came back. I have used Ritetrac from Kentucky Equine Research (KER) I saw good results after using omeprazole for 28 days. I have also used EQ stomach from Cur'ost and also saw good results. I didn't see anything different with THE products. Not saying they don't work, but didn't work for me. Try the EQ stomach from Cur'ost. It's not expensive.
Things you don't want to do
Don't feed sweet feed
Don't keep them stalled up
Try to give alfalfa mixed with your hay
Try and keep hay in front of them all the time
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| MC1993 - 2016-01-06 7:02 AM
Okay, I just don't know what else I can do. Hay infront of her 24/7, turn out 12 hours, not hauling yet, weaning off processed feed...UGH
Oh, I didn't mean don't haul! I am going to start hauling my gelding again because I will be proactive in prevention. He gets alfalfa cubes, 24/7 access to hay and his Cur Ost. Now that he is back to normal, when I haul I will treat him with Cur Ost Stomach and the Adapt 1-2 days out and the day of hauling. I have already hauled him a little bit, to my friend's to be shod and to the chiropractor and he did much better. That was after treating him with the Stomach and Adapt for 2 months, then changing over to Cur Ost Total. I have since talked to Dr. Schell and I will be adding the Stomach and Adapt only when I will be hauling.
It will get better I promise. All the changes are a pain at first, but they do help, so don't give up yet. It took a little while for my horse to turn around. Probably a month AFTER I put him on Cur Ost and the feed changes. |
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