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How does stifle pain show during a run?
canchaser24
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-01-05 7:36 AM
Subject: How does stifle pain show during a run?


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Maybe I'm asking a dumb question but I kinda suspect my horse may be having some stifle pain OR and old stifle injury. I have an appointment with a lameness vet next week. I'm just curious of the ways any of you have noticed them showing pain during a run. She never refuses to do anything I ask her she's a tough girl but she has stopped clocking where I know she's capable. If I give her 2-3 weeks off she comes back for 1-2 runs great then back to not clocking. I'm wondering if it's stifle or something else. No short stepping. Not gait change.
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2016-01-05 8:53 AM
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you can tell stifle problems like tripping in the rear end and horse will not clock like they used to, they use there stifle to push off.
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whiplashranch
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2016-01-05 8:56 AM
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Mine started with a barely noticeable hesitation leaving second barrel. Progressed to gate problems and just trying to run through the pattern as fast as possible, like I wasn't there.
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canchaser24
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-01-05 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?


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I feel like she's been hesitating behind barrels but I've been blaming it on my riding. Tried switching to a lighter bit but she runs off with me too. And there are times when I feel like she's running the pattern just to get done as fast as she can so its over. Not really doing her job just running away from something. And that's not her typical attitude.
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abrad12
Reg. Jul 2015
Posted 2016-01-05 9:49 AM
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My gelding was diagnosed with a bad stifle injury yesterday. I'm very devastated as he may not be able to ever run again. He was noticeably short stepping back end, wouldn't use his back end at ALL on the barrel pattern (I have a terrible video of it if you want to see). He wasn't himself. He is typically very ratey and really drops his butt but when I ran him after the injury you can see in the video he was tippy toeing and not wanting to use his butt or stretch out. He cross cantered on the pattern, etc.
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Dinero10
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2016-01-05 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?



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do you hear a popping sound when he walks?  

My bay horse popped walking, didn't want to trot or lope and pop sound - he is done - his stifles are gone.
 
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Mzbradford
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2016-01-05 12:05 PM
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I had a mare that would "slip" pushing out of the turn and would not sit down on the third barrel. Kinda like she was just running around it and not rating. Strung out in the turns. Blistered them and we are much much better.
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whiplashranch
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2016-01-05 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?



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whiplashranch - 2016-01-05 8:56 AM

Mine started with a barely noticeable hesitation leaving second barrel. Progressed to gate problems and just trying to run through the pattern as fast as possible, like I wasn't there.

Not sure if this will come thru as a link (I'm on my phone) but here's a video of when it started. He was 5 that year and this was still a 1D run but you can really see him do it pushing out of second barrel https://youtu.be/BZqVcu08suA
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-01-05 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?



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My older gelding started doing the same thing, he started stalling on the backsides and not leaving as hard as he used to. It's arthritis. Now we've discovered a lot more wrong with him than that, heart murmur, sore navicular, laminitis, abscessed tooth, but that was the original injury that sent us to the vet..... Horses, always finding a way to keep you broke!
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CocoChex
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-01-05 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?



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Dropping out of lead behind is a sign of stifle issues. You can see this on or off the pattern
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2016-01-05 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?



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Mine had a catching stifle on the right side (have never fully locked) and he would cross-fire on the backside of his turns, and not want to get his butt in the ground. When he was travelling strung-out at a trot, he would also have the feeling that he stepped in a hole. 

I've been fortunately able to manage his with good ol' exercise.

 
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canchaser24
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-01-05 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?


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She doesn't have a popping sound but she does trip some times when I'm exercising her kinda like she's stepping in a hole or something but nothing is there. I dk it's weird. She will swap leads leaving a barrels but not during a turn and she's stopped doing that now that I've switched directions which makes sense of she's trying not to fire on her right stifle. We are now a lefty. Shes just as competitive left and she was right. The video that was shared is what I feel her doing leaving barrels though. Not firing and leaving flat like she once did. She gets chiro work every month and is well exercised and well taken care of I just want her comfy when she's working. She LOVES running barrels. I hope to get my girl some relief next week.
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imturnin3
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2016-02-28 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?


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My horse just hurt himself yesterday:( first show of the year. I noticed at our second barrel it felt like the ground didn't hold him. The videos showed he pulled out leaving it and was cross firing and putting all his weight in the inside hind coming out going To the third. and it should have been the outside hind bearing the weight. Noticed it this morning when I got to the barn he was
Shifty on his back end walking in a small circle and looked a lil swollen and warm.
Ive iced and cold hosed,polticed, stalled and gave him
Bute. Calling the vet in the morning to schedule a work up.
When it's hock/stifles the horse will swap ends.
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okhorselover
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2016-02-28 7:03 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?



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Mine was catching on slow work. She was ducking when I ran her. Took her to a vet & she needs stifle injections every 6 months. One is worse than the other, but we do both. I also have her on adaquan & I feed her msm. She has been great ever since
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2016-02-28 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?



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My old rodeo mare, who ran REALLY tight around a barrel started pulling them over...she turned into a barrel hitting piece of crap! Since I knew how absolutely honest she is we went to the vet.....three times before we could pin down the problem to a tear of the MCL. She was SO tough after months of running her with it, she would not show any lameness at all!

I am guessing that symptoms are going to depend on exactly WHAT is injured in the stifle is going to dictate symptoms. One indication is a reluctance to back up.
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Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2016-02-28 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?


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my gelding started blowing barrels and going extremely wide, but while warming up he would try to crow hop during circles.
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skeeter7
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2016-03-01 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?



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 I will say that I have seen very similar issues as described above with my mare when she rotated her pelvis. Probably why it took so long to diagnose the issue. My original vet was convinced it was hocks or stifles and we injected, blistered, etc to no avail. I now know when she is sore in her hips, pelvis, sacrum when she stops firing and starts bunny hopping in the back end around the barrels instead of setting that hind leg and snapping around her turn and she gets chiro, massage and accupuncture to help.
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luckygirl04
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2016-03-03 6:52 PM
Subject: RE: How does stifle pain show during a run?




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daisycake123 - 2016-01-05 6:53 AM

you can tell stifle problems like tripping in the rear end and horse will not clock like they used to, they use there stifle to push off.

Ya I agree with this, they will misstep behind or not hold onto the ground. Stifle problems are mostly caused from turning horses too tight around the turn or the horse not being strong enough for competition yet running them. Best ways to keep stifles strong is riding up hills and long trotting.
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