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Location: Southern Oregon | This is something I would NEVER do. I there is a younger(but old enough to know better) girl I work with at our local plywood mill. We work from 615 am ish to 330 pm ish. The other day I noticed her horse trailer and truck was in the parking lot. I am known for doing this if I plan on leaving right after work to ride as well so I didn't think anything of it. Then while in our morning metting a close friend of ours said that the girl had bought her horse to work so that she could leave right after work to go riding. UMMMM WTF...... She lives about 20-30 mins away from work, our job is about another 35-40 mins away from the indoor arena we all like to ride at. So her horse sat in a two horse trailer from around 530 am to 4-430pm. With out be taken out. I don't even know how to approach this situation with her. Is there some articles or something along those lines as too why we shouldn't be leaving our horses in trailers that long? Ugh it makes me sick |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would have thought she would have unloaded the horse during her lunch break.
Sounds like shes a bit on the lazy side, I would not want my horse standing in a small two horse trailer for all those hours. Whats the matter with going out of your way to just go back home and pick up your horse? |
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Location: Southern Oregon | she spent her lunch break in the break room. I am on the same page. You GO HOME and pick up your **** horse, or hell she could of asked to keep it at my house if she didn't want to go all the home before heading out. Since I live 3 miles from the mill |
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| I would call the Sheriff and lodge an anonymous complaint. They'll come out to check on the horse. Having to visit with the popo might shake her up so she doesn't do that crap anymore. |
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Location: Florida.. | call the sheriff.. does horse even have water? |
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Location: Southern Oregon | If I would of known the horse was in the trailer that day I would of called in complaint and I also would of notified one of our plant supervisors, since we are not allowed to bring "pets" to work. I am hoping someone will post some articles on why it is bad to leave your horse in the trailer for extended periods of times so I can post them on my facebook or send them too her
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | classicpotatochip - 2016-01-08 8:41 PM I would call the Sheriff and lodge an anonymous complaint. They'll come out to check on the horse. Having to visit with the popo might shake her up so she doesn't do that crap anymore.
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Location: Southern Oregon | Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-08 6:47 PM
classicpotatochip - 2016-01-08 8:41 PM I would call the Sheriff and lodge an anonymous complaint. They'll come out to check on the horse. Having to visit with the popo might shake her up so she doesn't do that crap anymore.
My thoughts too, sounds like a dumb a** bit**
100% you hit the nail on the head with that statement. ugh....but she's a barrel racer too. ugh. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2016-01-08 8:46 PM call the sheriff.. does horse even have water?
I bet no water, people like this dont think about stuff like that, to much trouble for them to go out of their way to make a horse comfy. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | stock trailer or slant? To me that would make a difference, but of course the horse should still have water. I used to work 30 minutes south of home and my vet was another 30 minutes south of that. So I have been known to take my horses to work with me-leave the house at 6:30 am and they had the run of a 22ft stock trailer during the day. Bigger than most stalls. They of course did have water and hay. By the time they got home that night at 6ish. They were no worse for the wear. They were not tied so could move around and I never had to do it when it was hot. I couldn't get off work and this was literally the only way I could get them to a vet appt. It obviously wasn't just to go ride and play. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-08 6:50 PM
Bibliafarm - 2016-01-08 8:46 PM call the sheriff.. does horse even have water?
I bet no water, people like this dont think about stuff like that, to much trouble for them to go out of their way to make a horse comfy.
My guess would be NO water, since there is NO water available where we park and she doesn't have a water tank in her truck or trailer |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I bet that poor horse was stiff, I can see being in a open livestock trailer they can move around a bit and get freash air blowing threw but being in a two horse trailer, will that just sucks poor horse, she needed her butt kicked. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-01-08 6:53 PM
stock trailer or slant? To me that would make a difference, but of course the horse should still have water. I used to work 30 minutes south of home and my vet was another 30 minutes south of that. So I have been known to take my horses to work with me-leave the house at 6:30 am and they had the run of a 22ft stock trailer during the day. Bigger than most stalls. They of course did have water and hay. By the time they got home that night at 6ish. They were no worse for the wear. They were not tied so could move around and I never had to do it when it was hot. I couldn't get off work and this was literally the only way I could get them to a vet appt. It obviously wasn't just to go ride and play.
smaller two horse slant load. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | cowgirl_3207 - 2016-01-08 7:56 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2016-01-08 6:53 PM stock trailer or slant? To me that would make a difference, but of course the horse should still have water. I used to work 30 minutes south of home and my vet was another 30 minutes south of that. So I have been known to take my horses to work with me-leave the house at 6:30 am and they had the run of a 22ft stock trailer during the day. Bigger than most stalls. They of course did have water and hay. By the time they got home that night at 6ish. They were no worse for the wear. They were not tied so could move around and I never had to do it when it was hot. I couldn't get off work and this was literally the only way I could get them to a vet appt. It obviously wasn't just to go ride and play. smaller two horse slant load.
that's too small :( Even my situation was not ideal. But I was at vet by 3:30 and so they did get unloaded then and since town is so far from home I usually made a grocery run and back home. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-08 6:55 PM
I bet that poor horse was stiff, I can see being in a open livestock trailer they can move around a bit and get freash air blowing threw but being in a two horse trailer, will that just sucks poor horse, she needed her butt kicked.
I am sure she was stiff. My other friend was up at that arena for a lesson, she was shocked that the girl had made it up there before her. Since she only lives 3 miles away from work and her boyfriend already had her horses caught and loaded up when she got home. She said that girl was zipping around here and there and racing her horse with other people and finally the mare stumbled super bad and almost went down and started limping. The girl told my friend it wasn't a bad limp and kept riding her |
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Location: Southern Oregon | All of our co workers with out horses were asking me about and they all knew it was wrong! you would think this girl would of known that too ugh |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | You need to leave a unmarked note on her window telling her that shes the type that gives barrel racers a bad name. And that she sucks, lol. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | LOL I plan on doing alot more then that next time I see her. Which will probably be monday night or tuesday at work
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Location: Texas | My granddaughter was using a friend's 20+ calf horse to breakaway and tie goats on. They had had the horse for a couple of years and took very good care of him, having him on Previcox, supplements, senior feed--you name it. He looked like a million bucks. To look at him, you would not have quessed his age. 2 months before her year end finals the owner took him back. His horse, his decision. She was winning the goats at the time and heartbroken. They asked if they could get him back for the finals and he agreed to meet them halfway. What they didn't know was that the horse stood in a trailer with no water all day while the owner was meeting with his divorce attorney. When my husband met him late that afternoon, he looked like hell. I felt so bad for the horse and granddaughter. |
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I don't agree with it and I certainly don't condone it... BUT... Horses on the road are often in the trailer for HOURS on end without a break. Doesn't seem much different than that to me. She definitely could have been more attentive to him, but as long as it isn't something she does often, then I probably wouldn't confront her. If she does it again you could maybe mention something to her during lunch. Something like "Hey, I'll walk out with you to give Trigger some water." Sometimes people are more receptive to a kind word. ;)
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Location: Phoenix | grinandbareit - 2016-01-08 8:32 PM
I don't agree with it and I certainly don't condone it... BUT... Horses on the road are often in the trailer for HOURS on end without a break. Doesn't seem much different than that to me. She definitely could have been more attentive to him, but as long as it isn't something she does often, then I probably wouldn't confront her. If she does it again you could maybe mention something to her during lunch. Something like "Hey, I'll walk out with you to give Trigger some water." Sometimes people are more receptive to a kind word. ;)
I was thinking the same thing. She sounds like she doesn't know much..... |
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| I don't agree with leaving the horse in the trailer, but I also don't think its nice to talk so bad about her. I have read a few post calling her names and I don't think its right. I guess I just always think we really don't know what goes on in others lives and to say mean things could really be a breaking point for someone. I know somethings aren't right but maybe she never had anyone to show her. I don't know, yes its not okay, but neither is name calling. Maybe you should see if she wants to learn more about taking proper care of her horse and offer to give her tips. I don't want to offend anyone, I'm just a sensitive person and don't ever want to make others feel bad. Maybe she is just doesn't know. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | She sounds like she is just young and ignorant. Someone mentioned in another post that, the way they were raised, you just treated horses differently. In that post, they said someone chewed their butt, and they realized they deserved it. Maybe a kinder approach, but she definitely needs to be educated about doing what's best for your animals. |
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| I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls?
Is it an ideal scenario? No.
Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No. |
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| I think the difference from what she did as a convenience, and folks that haul regularly, is most folks, no wait, most barrel racers, that haul a lot do a ton of other things to help their horse......stop every few hours, give them a walk, water, et al. And, they realize that this is hard on the horse and limit it to necessity rather than convenience.
However, I doubt this guy got anything special, like taking your lunch out to the trailer, going for a walk, watering, and loading back up.
If she's young, yes she should know better, but probably didn't think it through. She thought 'wow, I've got an idea, I'll just take Dash to work, then go ride'. She may be open to a gentle suggestion, may not, but that's what I'd try first.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Kry5ta1 - 2016-01-09 3:14 AM I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls? Is it an ideal scenario? No. Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No.
^^^^ THIS....GASP ! ! At rodeos, we have had to throw horses in the trailer, for the night, if a storm came up or to drive all night to the next one....Was this a "smart" thing for this young lady to do? Well, no....BUT, if you were concerned, WHY didn't you ask her about the situation THAT day? And I certainly wouldn't call any authorities until you have spoken to her...... |
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Location: KS | I guess I wouldn't be afraid to bring it up to her, but I would also do it nicely, maybe make that offer about leaving her horse at your place, if your willing?
I've been around a variety of people, some don't look and situations (or animals) the same as others, Id be thinking the same thing as you, no food or water in a small trailer? But if it were a long stock trailer, I would feel a little different about it, its still beneficial to unload them and walk them when their in a longer trailer too. But like someone mentioned before, you don't know what/how others see things or what's going on with them, so id suggest confronting her nicely.
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Location: That part of Texas | I would strongly advise calling the cops at this point and here's why:
Out of any given country/rural/farm-ranch land area, how many law enforcement officers on the force have working equine knowledge at all? Of those who do have some knowledge, how many grew up on ranches were it's common to load horses in the morning in a trailer to go to work all day? Granted those horses are taken out to ride pasture and check cattle but you do see them sitting in the back while guys are drinking coffee at the feed store, eating lunch at the diner or stopping for a snack in the afternoon during a break. Given this, you're chances of actually having someone called out who (1) has knowledge at all about what you're concerned with and (2) agrees with you is probably going to be slim.
If an officer who doesn't know anything shows up, she's going to be able to talk her way out of things and possibly mis-educate the office on this issue. Otherwise, you may end up with someone who agrees with her. In the end, you've only shown her that law enforcement is either going to agree or back her up. She'll strut around talking about busy-bodies who can't mind their own business that tried to call the cops on her and it backfired. It will become more of a personal issue with her to do this.
That's why I say if you are going to do something, it probably needs to be you or someone else who is knowledgable addressing the issue with her. Say that you feel this way and then possibly give her a copy of an article backing up what you are saying if you feel that you need to.
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Location: East of the Pecos | Red Raider - 2016-01-09 11:24 AM I would strongly advise calling the cops at this point and here's why:
Out of any given country/rural/farm-ranch land area, how many law enforcement officers on the force have working equine knowledge at all? Of those who do have some knowledge, how many grew up on ranches were it's common to load horses in the morning in a trailer to go to work all day? Granted those horses are taken out to ride pasture and check cattle but you do see them sitting in the back while guys are drinking coffee at the feed store, eating lunch at the diner or stopping for a snack in the afternoon during a break. Given this, you're chances of actually having someone called out who (1) has knowledge at all about what you're concerned with and (2) agrees with you is probably going to be slim.
If an officer who doesn't know anything shows up, she's going to be able to talk her way out of things and possibly mis-educate the office on this issue. Otherwise, you may end up with someone who agrees with her. In the end, you've only shown her that law enforcement is either going to agree or back her up. She'll strut around talking about busy-bodies who can't mind their own business that tried to call the cops on her and it backfired. It will become more of a personal issue with her to do this.
That's why I say if you are going to do something, it probably needs to be you or someone else who is knowledgable addressing the issue with her. Say that you feel this way and then possibly give her a copy of an article backing up what you are saying if you feel that you need to.
Your initial message of advice to call the cops sounds contrary to your paragraph of on why? |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Bug Is Alive - 2016-01-09 9:51 AM
Red Raider - 2016-01-09 11:24 AM I would strongly advise calling the cops at this point and here's why:
Out of any given country/rural/farm-ranch land area, how many law enforcement officers on the force have working equine knowledge at all? Of those who do have some knowledge, how many grew up on ranches were it's common to load horses in the morning in a trailer to go to work all day? Granted those horses are taken out to ride pasture and check cattle but you do see them sitting in the back while guys are drinking coffee at the feed store, eating lunch at the diner or stopping for a snack in the afternoon during a break. Given this, you're chances of actually having someone called out who (1) has knowledge at all about what you're concerned with and (2) agrees with you is probably going to be slim.
If an officer who doesn't know anything shows up, she's going to be able to talk her way out of things and possibly mis-educate the office on this issue. Otherwise, you may end up with someone who agrees with her. In the end, you've only shown her that law enforcement is either going to agree or back her up. She'll strut around talking about busy-bodies who can't mind their own business that tried to call the cops on her and it backfired. It will become more of a personal issue with her to do this.
That's why I say if you are going to do something, it probably needs to be you or someone else who is knowledgable addressing the issue with her. Say that you feel this way and then possibly give her a copy of an article backing up what you are saying if you feel that you need to.
Your initial message of advice to call the cops sounds contrary to your paragraph of on why?
I would assume it was meant to say "advise against". |
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Location: Southern Oregon | She knows enough to know better. but I do agree with what was said. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | NJJ - 2016-01-09 7:48 AM
Kry5ta1 - 2016-01-09 3:14 AM I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls? Is it an ideal scenario? No. Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No.
^^^^ THIS....GASP ! ! At rodeos, we have had to throw horses in the trailer, for the night, if a storm came up or to drive all night to the next one....Was this a "smart" thing for this young lady to do? Well, no....BUT, if you were concerned, WHY didn't you ask her about the situation THAT day? And I certainly wouldn't call any authorities until you have spoken to her......
I too have driven over night to rodeo's but I NEVER haul for that many hours with out stopping and checking my horses or unloading them and watering them ect. The INTENT wasn't to "burn" her over the internet. The intent was to get some good articles as too why it is bad so I could give them to her too read. I would of said something that day, but I didn't even find out until the next day. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | cowgirl_3207 - 2016-01-10 12:06 PM NJJ - 2016-01-09 7:48 AM Kry5ta1 - 2016-01-09 3:14 AM I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls? Is it an ideal scenario? No. Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No. ^^^^ THIS....GASP ! ! At rodeos, we have had to throw horses in the trailer, for the night, if a storm came up or to drive all night to the next one....Was this a "smart" thing for this young lady to do? Well, no....BUT, if you were concerned, WHY didn't you ask her about the situation THAT day? And I certainly wouldn't call any authorities until you have spoken to her...... I too have driven over night to rodeo's but I NEVER haul for that many hours with out stopping and checking my horses or unloading them and watering them ect. The INTENT wasn't to "burn" her over the internet. The intent was to get some good articles as too why it is bad so I could give them to her too read. I would of said something that day, but I didn't even find out until the next day.
I guess I misunderstood because you didn't say that you found out the NEXT day....
"Then while in our morning metting a close friend of ours said that the girl had bought her horse to work so that she could leave right after work to go riding. "
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| NJJ - 2016-01-10 12:36 PM
cowgirl_3207 - 2016-01-10 12:06 PM NJJ - 2016-01-09 7:48 AM Kry5ta1 - 2016-01-09 3:14 AM I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls? Is it an ideal scenario? No. Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No. ^^^^ THIS....GASP ! ! At rodeos, we have had to throw horses in the trailer, for the night, if a storm came up or to drive all night to the next one....Was this a "smart" thing for this young lady to do? Well, no....BUT, if you were concerned, WHY didn't you ask her about the situation THAT day? And I certainly wouldn't call any authorities until you have spoken to her...... I too have driven over night to rodeo's but I NEVER haul for that many hours with out stopping and checking my horses or unloading them and watering them ect. The INTENT wasn't to "burn" her over the internet. The intent was to get some good articles as too why it is bad so I could give them to her too read. I would of said something that day, but I didn't even find out until the next day.
"Then while in our morning metting a close friend of ours said that the girl had bought her horse to work so that she could leave right after work to go riding. "
So all this is based off what someone told you?
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | I feel the same way about people who put horses in box stalls. But I don't go calling the cops on these people. To me box stalls are mentally cruel to a horse. If the weather wasn't bad or hot or cold I would not worry about this. We haul for 9 hours when we go on vacation with ours and they only get one rest period for a half hour and they will not even drink water till we get there. At least try the nice way to get your point across first. |
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | Here's an opportunity to educate someone. I am a much better horseperson today, than I was when I was twenty. Looking back, I made mistakes I cringe about now. Why don't you try to befriend her, get chatty, and somehow suggest in a nice way that her horse might need a break if it happens again? I would never keep my horse in a trailer all day long. I wouldn't even tie him up OUTSIDE the trailer all day long. But I HAVE hauled all day long. So I think it's not an ideal situation, but he's not being abused. I think you have a teaching moment here with this young woman. And P.S. I don't like hearing that she continued to ride a horse who was limping. Sounds like this girl needs a mentor. Look at this as an opportunity and figure out a way you can help. Good luck! |
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Location: Oregon | BS Hauler - 2016-01-10 3:43 PM I feel the same way about people who put horses in box stalls. But I don't go calling the cops on these people. To me box stalls are mentally cruel to a horse. If the weather wasn't bad or hot or cold I would not worry about this. We haul for 9 hours when we go on vacation with ours and they only get one rest period for a half hour and they will not even drink water till we get there. At least try the nice way to get your point across first. Seriously? Putting a horse in a box stall is the same as leaving it in a parking lot in a 2 horse trailer all day?
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Location: Florida.. | my guess is if she does this now she will do it in summer.. THAT IS a ISSUE in my opinion.. also a moving trailer is not the same as sitting in a parking lot.. in summer it could be life or death for that horse..start educating now. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2016-01-10 7:26 PM my guess is if she does this now she will do it in summer.. THAT IS a ISSUE in my opinion.. also a moving trailer is not the same as sitting in a parking lot.. in summer it could be life or death for that horse..start educating now.
This right here ^^^^^^ if this women is old enough to drive and haul a horse, I can bet that she knows better then to leave a horse alone for all those hours it sat in a trailer by its self.. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I wanted to apologize for being a name caller to this women that left her horse standing in a two horse trailer for all those hours out in the parking lot by its self, I just feel bad for the horse standing there in a box, but some peoples way of thinking is that its just a dumb animal no worriers. I'm just a softie and it justs makes me mad to think someone would do that, I have haul long periods of time to but I would stop and unload and offer water at some point into the trip, but to think a horse in that box for all those hours just sitting there not moving, uggg thats just cruel in my books..
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Location: Florida.. | south I feel same way .. to me its just lazy or neglectful and I think its wrong.. a few hours is one thing.. 9 is another.. while shes inside working.. |
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Horses 3 and older can lock their knees and sleep standing up as working teams and
US Cavalry horses did for centuries in stand alone stalls ..
The possibility of a lack of water is my only concern ...
As a helpful friend of the horse and finding out the horse was in the trailer at a
morning meeting .. I would have found the girl and suggested taking the horse
to my barn 3 miles away at lunch break before some nosy busy body got her in
trouble for bringing a "pet" to work ...
How many ads and brag posts have you read that states a weanling to an old horse
can stand on concrete in the hot sun all day long and never pull back while
attending a barrel race??
and no one said anything .... lol
Same way with calling the overbearing GOTCHA police forces we have today ...
knowing anything can be misconstrued as animal abuse by someone in uniform
and get a felony charge put on someone and ruining their lives is the last thing
I would do.
I would tend to discuss it with the person, then threaten the person, then beat
the crap out of the person and then if things did not change consider calling their
parents or spouse and then calling the cops to keep spouse or family from beating
the crap out of me ... lol
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Location: Florida.. | People at events offer water .. I guess some people do this . it doesnt mean its right or good for the horse.. No water to me is neglect. but some I guess think of a horse as livestock and dont really take anything else into consideration.. so we can all feel differantly about this.. |
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Location: Oregon | Unless there are some kind of extenuating circumstances no it's not okay. If she does it again just question her reasoning and if it's for convenience just explain why it's not a good thing to do and someone will probably report her and she will get in trouble. Problem solved.
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Location: South Central Florida | I havent read all the posts but do you know it had no water? For sure, or your assumming?
I live in South Florida...it's hot most of the year, yet we have been to more than one all day shows that were 12 to 15 hours long. The horses are tied to the trailer or our 1 horse stands in the trailer the whole time, except for warm up and run. SHE LOVES IT.
She hates to be tied to the trailer, but loves standing in it. But I don't see a lot of difference really. . .
Water is the only issue and from what I read, you don't know weather or not it had water. I guess I kind of think it's not really any ones business. Cowboys here have to leave them on the trailer for much longer than that sometimes...
As far as driving home to get the horse, and back in the other direction, Some weeks fuel is that big a deal for me. Doing the best you can is just that sometimes. 20 - 30 min away, back home. . . then another 30 min to an arena can be a lot of fuel for some of us.
I'm not totally clear on when you said "I've been known to do that" how it's different for someone else to do it. Maybe I mis understood. If it is the same, the reason for it doesn't matter I would not think.
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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| Swannranch - 2016-01-10 10:47 PM
I havent read all the posts but do you know it had no water? For sure, or your assumming?
I live in South Florida...it's hot most of the year, yet we have been to more than one all day shows that were 12 to 15 hours long. The horses are tied to the trailer or our 1 horse stands in the trailer the whole time, except for warm up and run. SHE LOVES IT.
She hates to be tied to the trailer, but loves standing in it. But I don't see a lot of difference really. . .
Water is the only issue and from what I read, you don't know weather or not it had water. I guess I kind of think it's not really any ones business. Cowboys here have to leave them on the trailer for much longer than that sometimes...
As far as driving home to get the horse, and back in the other direction, Some weeks fuel is that big a deal for me. Doing the best you can is just that sometimes. 20 - 30 min away, back home. . . then another 30 min to an arena can be a lot of fuel for some of us.
I'm not totally clear on when you said "I've been known to do that" how it's different for someone else to do it. Maybe I mis understood. If it is the same, the reason for it doesn't matter I would not think.
OP did not see the horse in the trailer. Someone told her the next day. This is my rule of thumb in this type of situation. Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. I have found this lowers my blood pressure better than anything.
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How freakish is that?
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Location: Oregon | BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-01-10 7:52 PM IHow many ads and brag posts have you read that states a weanling to an old horse can stand on concrete in the hot sun all day long and never pull back while attending a barrel race?? and no one said anything .... lol Who stands a weanling (or any horse) on concrete all day in the hot sun and brags about it? The ridiculousness astounds me. Talk about drama mongering, your post reeks of it.
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | streakysox - 2016-01-10 11:58 PM Swannranch - 2016-01-10 10:47 PM I havent read all the posts but do you know it had no water? For sure, or your assumming?
I live in South Florida...it's hot most of the year, yet we have been to more than one all day shows that were 12 to 15 hours long. The horses are tied to the trailer or our 1 horse stands in the trailer the whole time, except for warm up and run. SHE LOVES IT.
She hates to be tied to the trailer, but loves standing in it. But I don't see a lot of difference really. . .
Water is the only issue and from what I read, you don't know weather or not it had water. I guess I kind of think it's not really any ones business. Cowboys here have to leave them on the trailer for much longer than that sometimes...
As far as driving home to get the horse, and back in the other direction, Some weeks fuel is that big a deal for me. Doing the best you can is just that sometimes. 20 - 30 min away, back home. . . then another 30 min to an arena can be a lot of fuel for some of us.
I'm not totally clear on when you said "I've been known to do that" how it's different for someone else to do it. Maybe I mis understood. If it is the same, the reason for it doesn't matter I would not think.
OP did not see the horse in the trailer. Someone told her the next day. This is my rule of thumb in this type of situation. Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. I have found this lowers my blood pressure better than anything.
No actually I assumed since she said the girl never once went out to check horse but Now I see she didnt even witness it it was second hand story so Im out..I guess when someone posts they saw this I add my 2 cents.. and think they mean first hand.. not leave out parts.. .. my bad.. |
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | Swannranch - 2016-01-10 11:55 PM I love when the stories change.
Happens alot on here and if you dont double check you get pulled into..  |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Instead of an "off-topic" button on BHW, maybe they should include this.......sorry......couldn't help myself after reading several threads this morning.......LOL
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Location: Kansas | NJJ - 2016-01-09 9:48 AM Kry5ta1 - 2016-01-09 3:14 AM I suppose I am not sure how this is different from leaving your horse trailered overnight or for long hauls? Is it an ideal scenario? No. Would I burn her over the Internet for it? No. ^^^^ THIS....GASP ! ! At rodeos, we have had to throw horses in the trailer, for the night, if a storm came up or to drive all night to the next one....Was this a "smart" thing for this young lady to do? Well, no....BUT, if you were concerned, WHY didn't you ask her about the situation THAT day? And I certainly wouldn't call any authorities until you have spoken to her......
I will agree.....when I've driven over 3-4 hours to a rodeo....I open all the slants, hang a bucket of water and hay bag and my horse stays in the trailer overnight......same if I were to haul for long periods of a time...get out walk, back in the trailer and on the road. |
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| We got stranded in Arizona and the horses had to stay on the trailer for over 24hrs... They were fine, We haul 12 hours before we unload horses when traveling and they are great when we get where we are going. I leave them on the trailer overnight at rodeos and races and they are again always happy and healthy! We go hunting and theyll stand on a picket line for a week(this is a little different because they can lay down but they still stand there 80% of the time, thats a lot of hours) Growing up our horses got fed, saddled, and loaded in a trailer, they were either in the trailer or checking cattle. We'd unload them at dark.
This post is ridiculous!!
The OP didn't see the horse in the trailer, didn't SEE if it had water, didn't SEE the girl never let the horse out, didn't even KNOW about it until the next day(supposedly)! What does the OP know? A rumor!
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| Haven't you guys ever seen tie stalls? Even Clinton Anderson advocates them and when I'm finally able to build my own barn I will be putting some in. Like BARRELHORSEUSA said above, teams and cavalry horses used them for centuries. And there are a bajillion other reasons they are useful.
I have left mine in the trailer for extended periods of time for different reasons. Always had a bucket of water in there and feed. That'd be my only issue with this, but then again it wouldn't be any of my business. In fact, I have an old rodeo horse that dumps his bucket after he's done drinking when tied at the trailer. I've had the same person water him two years in a row because they don't think we do. In reality, it's the horses habit and what if I had his water pulled for a reason like Lasix or something. They need to mind their own effing business.
One year we had an ice storm and all 7 slept in our trailers for 2 or 3 nights in a row. They had ice a half inch thick and were literally freezing. They were in there for 8 or so hours each night. They lived.
Also had a really nice arab my daughter rode when she was little. He gamed and was a lovely trail horse. Was perfect with the kids, etc. However, when tied, he would throw himself down and hang there until we cut him loose. Many times he did this and it just wasn't safe. And because I had no tie stalls to put him in to fix the problem, he lived tied in the trailer for several days. It was spring so mild weather, not hot nor cold and he had food/water 24/7. We got him out and rode him each day to strict his legs. But he was forced to stand tied and couldn't pull back if he tried, obviously because their wasn't room. He also lived.
And before you flame away, realize we were the last chance for this horse. He was unsafe around children when tied and we would have canned him due to this. He was given to us for free cause a string of owners could fix some of his issues. Arabs have ZERO value around here. It fixed the problem and he never pulled back again until the day he died.
The point of my novel, is that if people need to mind their own business. You don't have to like someone's habits or methods and it's really none of your business. If the horse is in good weight and healthy, cops can't and won't and SHOULDN'T do jack about it. Not their business either. Obvious caveat being visible abuse. And leaving one in the trailer longer than you think is appropriate does not constitute abuse.
Flame suit on and up....
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | I really only posted, because I get really tired of people worrying so much about how "other" people do stuff. Yes, there is true abuse in animals, but some things are just fine...just different.
As far as the original post...I'm sure if you really wanted to, you could "google" or "bing" any articles you want. For the most part...you can find an article to say anything you want it to say. Blanket...Don't Blanket, Mineral, No Supplements...ton's of supplements, shoes, no shoes...Clip, don't clip.
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Location: Oakdale, CA | I just think we the people need to worry more about what concerns us! this is still a free country |
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Location: So Cal | If the horse had water and the trailer was ventilated (i.e. it wasn't 110 degrees with the horse dripping sweat), honestly I don't see a problem... My horse has been tied or left in a trailer for extended period of time many times. She had a patience problem and that's how she learned to get over it! It's easier on a horse to stand in a parked trailer for that long than in a trailer going down the road, but people regularly drive that long without taking the horse out. |
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Leaving a horse in the trailer for an extended period of time?