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| Looking for success stories with OsPhos. I will be giving it to my mare tonight for the first time. She is lame right now. ( Has been on stall rest) How quickly did you see results with it?
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Location: East TN | Gave my older guy OsPhos back in May when it was discovered he had navicular. Hasn't taken a lame step since!
It took about 2 weeks to really see the results.
I was told by the vet that depending on the horse, you may have to give another round every 3-6 months but mine hasn't missed a beat yet, i haven't had to give him another round. He is now and has been since early June running consistently in the 2d/3d. Of course now, he has corrective shoeing but i still think highly of my experience using OsPhos  |
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| We corrected her shoeing 3 weeks after initial diagnosis. She has had them about 3 weeks now, and will be reset again on 1/26. She is my main barrel horse, so I am just hoping to get her back sound. I tried to let her graze in a small paddock last night, and she went buck wild, literally. Running, bucking, and snorting. She was fine right after that, but about 15 minutes later she was showing some lameness again.
I just want her out of pain. Hoping to have results like you. |
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Location: NE Texas | Please read this article published by the jockey club and educate yourself prior to using Osphos or a similar drug. This drug used to be prescribed readily in human medicine for women with osteoporosis, but is no longer used due to the long term side effects even after a single dose. Considering women typically weigh less than 200 pounds and are relatively inactive in comparison to a performance horse weighing around 1000, this is scary to me. Do your homework and educate yourself. Don't rely on the pharmaceutical companies to educate the vets, and then the vets educate us, as they may not dig deeper into the history of these drugs. The pharmaceutical companies have millions of dollars invested in the development of these drugs, and when human doctors are no longer prescribing, they move to the animal world hoping we aren't diligent enough to dig deeper. Please take the time to read and do the proper research to make sure the risk is worth the reward. A horse running and turning and exerting itself to the level we ask it to do is dangerous enough, but considering the Osphos and Tildren could increase the chances of long bone, catastrophic breakdown, this increases the odds of injury to the horse even years after first administered due to the death of the osteoclats and ability to rebuild bone. https://www.grayson-jockeyclub.org/resources/bones.pdf |
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| I used Osphos on two horses early last year. One with a broken navicular bone that was healing, a pretty nasty spavin in a hind hock etc and it worked wonders!!! Went to the vet this year and she recommended another dose to KEEP the horses going in the right direction. I, like Herbie, have my horses on curost and I am going against my vets recommendations and seeing just how long my horses go sound on the curost. I am really really hoping they never need the osphos again. I think for some horses with really advanced issues who are OLDER it is a good choice. Both of mine are young and competing so I am really hoping I never have to use it again by keeping the inflammation out of their system with the curost. But if I was running a navicular horse in their late teens/20s etc then for me the possible side effects would be less than the comfort the horse will get. It REALLY DOES WORK... the only question is what happens to these horses LONG TERM. Nobody knows cause it hasnt been out that long. |
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| My girl is 17 yrs old. I have also been looking into CurOst after reading other threads. Just haven't gotten that far yet. I want to get her off bute, and sound. |
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| SwiftSmokinLady - 2016-01-13 8:01 AM
My girl is 17 yrs old. I have also been looking into CurOst after reading other threads. Just haven't gotten that far yet. I want to get her off bute, and sound.
My horse with the navicular bone issue and hock, coffin arthritis was on Previcox DAILY. Since curost he needs none of that. He is on total support daily with the PURE formula on the days he runs. Seems to be working and I am so happy he is not on an NSAID daily. |
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| Really does work.
Gave it to my severe navicular gelding when he came up off.
He hasnt taken a lame step since and improved by 4tenths on the 2nd run back after giving it.
He feels better, looks better, and is running better.
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| How long before you saw improvement? Or how long after you gave him the shot did you start running? And was he lame when you gave the shot?
Sorry for all the questions. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I also had one dose given to my gelding who has some navicular and coffin bone changes going on, on and off sore, he was VERY sore when I took him in. We gave the first and only dose he will be given Oct. 10 (I had done some reading and decided I would do the one dose only and try to support it from there with Cur_ost) started him on Cur_ost Total Support a few days later. They found a large abcess in his right front and we also changed some angles on him. He has not taken a lame step since the follow up appointment 3 weeks later where he passed a lameness exam on hard and groomed ground and I was given the go ahead to start riding at a walk again. 3 weeks later at his reset appointment I was given the go ahead to add trotting, still sound 6 weeks later. His feet were also looking good enough we ended up doing an open pad on his left front. Haven't been able to go with an open pad on him in almost 3 years do to thin soles and tender feet in general.
I believe the Osphos helped with the bone remodeling to an extend and the Cur-ost has helped with the inflammation. |
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| SwiftSmokinLady - 2016-01-13 10:57 AM
How long before you saw improvement? Or how long after you gave him the shot did you start running? And was he lame when you gave the shot?
Sorry for all the questions.
started seeing improvement within the week. His neck was pretty sore from the injection sites.
Yes he was lame when he got it.
I ran him 4 weeks after. Not that you have to wait that long, she just told me not to expect huge change until then. Ran him on a Friday night, and then sunday morning. Could tell a huge difference in him.
Got his Osphos middle of October, ran him middle of November. He has not been lame at all since.
Can really tell a difference in him from before and after in videos. |
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| kboltwkreations - 2016-01-13 12:12 PM
SwiftSmokinLady - 2016-01-13 10:57 AM
How long before you saw improvement? Or how long after you gave him the shot did you start running? And was he lame when you gave the shot?
Sorry for all the questions.
started seeing improvement within the week. His neck was pretty sore from the injection sites.
Yes he was lame when he got it.
I ran him 4 weeks after. Not that you have to wait that long, she just told me not to expect huge change until then. Ran him on a Friday night, and then sunday morning. Could tell a huge difference in him.
Got his Osphos middle of October, ran him middle of November. He has not been lame at all since.
Can really tell a difference in him from before and after in videos.
Would love to see videos. I won't be bringing her back super quick, but was hoping to be able to run her by March hopefully. |
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Location: Central Texas | I have used both Osphos and Tildren on my gelding. His first injection was back in 2010 with Tildren. I haven't kept him on a definite schedule, ie every 6 months etc. I have gone with how I think he feels and how hard I am running him. I, like others would much prefer an alternative but sometimes there just isn't one. Anytime you put anything into your body or an animals body there can be consequences, I don't care what the supplement/treatment is. You have to determine does the benefit outweight the possible bad side effect in keeping your horse working or comfortable. That being said. Both drugs worked and continue to work on my horse with as of yet no adverse reactions. My horse was basically lame and limping in the pasture with just minimal amount of work. He nows runs with no issues and has not taken a lame step in 5 plus years. (knock on wood). With both drugs, I saw improvement in about 2 weeks with marked improvement at the 60 day post injection date. |
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| SwiftSmokinLady - 2016-01-13 11:18 AM
kboltwkreations - 2016-01-13 12:12 PM
SwiftSmokinLady - 2016-01-13 10:57 AM
How long before you saw improvement? Or how long after you gave him the shot did you start running? And was he lame when you gave the shot?
Sorry for all the questions.
started seeing improvement within the week. His neck was pretty sore from the injection sites.
Yes he was lame when he got it.
I ran him 4 weeks after. Not that you have to wait that long, she just told me not to expect huge change until then. Ran him on a Friday night, and then sunday morning. Could tell a huge difference in him.
Got his Osphos middle of October, ran him middle of November. He has not been lame at all since.
Can really tell a difference in him from before and after in videos.
Would love to see videos. I won't be bringing her back super quick, but was hoping to be able to run her by March hopefully.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSwrsWD7yJ0
Last 3 videos are before and afters.
3rd to last in that outdoor pen he wouldnt even get close to the barrels (that was 1st of october)
has Osphos a week after this run
didnt run him for 4 weeks.
next to last run at elite could still tell he was thinking it was going to be painful to run but he was better.
last run at elite he was turning harder and firing better.
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| kboltwkreations - 2016-01-13 12:30 PM
SwiftSmokinLady - 2016-01-13 11:18 AM
kboltwkreations - 2016-01-13 12:12 PM
SwiftSmokinLady - 2016-01-13 10:57 AM
How long before you saw improvement? Or how long after you gave him the shot did you start running? And was he lame when you gave the shot?
Sorry for all the questions.
started seeing improvement within the week. His neck was pretty sore from the injection sites.
Yes he was lame when he got it.
I ran him 4 weeks after. Not that you have to wait that long, she just told me not to expect huge change until then. Ran him on a Friday night, and then sunday morning. Could tell a huge difference in him.
Got his Osphos middle of October, ran him middle of November. He has not been lame at all since.
Can really tell a difference in him from before and after in videos.
Would love to see videos. I won't be bringing her back super quick, but was hoping to be able to run her by March hopefully.
Last 3 videos are before and afters.
3rd to last in that outdoor pen he wouldnt even get close to the barrels (that was 1st of october )
has Osphos a week after this run
didnt run him for 4 weeks.
next to last run at elite could still tell he was thinking it was going to be painful to run but he was better.
last run at elite he was turning harder and firing better.
You can definitely tell the difference before and after. He looks much for fluid and comfortable. |
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| Following. :)
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| I gave my mare the shots last night. She was not limping yesterday, but she is today. I think mainly because she pitched a fit while we were giving her the shots. (she really doesn't like shots) She was running backwards for the first like 5 minutes.
Will keep you posted on her status and how I think it is working. |
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| SwiftSmokinLady - 2016-01-14 1:37 PM I gave my mare the shots last night. She was not limping yesterday, but she is today. I think mainly because she pitched a fit while we were giving her the shots. (she really doesn't like shots) She was running backwards for the first like 5 minutes. Will keep you posted on her status and how I think it is working.
Any updates? :o)
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Location: Central Montana | I gave two doses to my navicular gelding last year. The year before we tried Tildren via RLP. I did not notice a huge improvement on him with either the Tildren or the Osphos.. He was also diagnosed with laminitis....so unfortunately it id hard to tell which disease is causing the pain and when. It is hard to worry about possible side effects when the other alternative is putting one down, which is was what I had planned on doing. Thank goodness the new vet I have didn't just look at him and decide the navicular was causing all the problems and there were no other options. Since I have changed his feed I have seen a huge improvement but not total soundness. |
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Location: NE Texas | GoinJettin - 2016-01-26 11:28 AM I gave two doses to my navicular gelding last year. The year before we tried Tildren via RLP. I did not notice a huge improvement on him with either the Tildren or the Osphos.. He was also diagnosed with laminitis....so unfortunately it id hard to tell which disease is causing the pain and when. It is hard to worry about possible side effects when the other alternative is putting one down, which is was what I had planned on doing. Thank goodness the new vet I have didn't just look at him and decide the navicular was causing all the problems and there were no other options. Since I have changed his feed I have seen a huge improvement but not total soundness.
The two (laminitis and navicular) are likely tied together through leaky gut syndrome. Dr. Schell with Nouvelle Research has been hoping to find a laminitis case to do research on. You ought to post on www.secondvet.com. |
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| I saw results in 3 -10 days. I have used it on 8 horses now. Some with soft tissue problems in their front feet, 1with navicular changes, 1 super old rodeo horse, 1mare whose ankles kept getting really puffy.....ect ...it has worked on all of them. Just be very careful of exercise up to 10 days following. |
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