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     Location: Texas | Has anyone seen this? On February 10 Lindsay Sears will match race Kelly Kaminski for a spot in the American. Two horses each, two runs each.
This will be fun to watch.
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Please note the Gold Buckle Matches start at 6:30 PM CT in San Antonio on Feb. 10 for the LIVE performance. The matches will air on RFD-TV on the 14th. Get tickets here: http://sarosepalace.com/tickets.html...GOLD BUCKLE MATCHES: http://www.rfdtv.com/story/30954776/gold-buckle-matches-2016
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      Location: The edge of no where | sodapop - 2016-01-14 10:27 PM Looks like there will be other great matches on that day. I knew about Cody Ohl vs. Fred Whitfield, but not the others. I hope they add roughstock, but so far I don't see it. Originally it was just the match between Cody and Fred. I found on the American Facebook page that the matches will take place on Feb. 10, but will air on RFD-TV on Feb. 14.
Please note the Gold Buckle Matches start at 6:30 PM CT in San Antonio on Feb. 10 for the LIVE performance. The matches will air on RFD-TV on the 14th. Get tickets here: http://sarosepalace.com/tickets.html...
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http://www.rfdtv.com/story/30954776/gold-buckle-matches-2016
I think it will be fun to watch! The team roping is a pretty cool format.
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     Location: Texas | I'm an interview Kelly said she didn't know what she did s riding yet. Lindsay said she will be riding something of her own and it has crossed her mind to bring out Martha. Although Martha is in shape she said she didn't know if she could have her in competition shape. And she is considering whether Mo can run 2 runs back to back. |
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       Location: Texas | rodeomom3 - 2016-01-15 2:39 PM Kelly herself has been on a 6 week hiatus for a health reason, she was just released last week to ride. Hope Kelly does great! They live a few miles from me, Kenna has trained a wicked fast little mare, Ruby, but I don't know if she is seasoned enough for this opportunity.
I agree. Kenna's little mare is really nice. And wouldn't it be nice to see Martha making another run? This is going to be good watching. |
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  Location: The Great Northwest | Horse-racin - 2016-01-17 12:35 PM Wish they would show it live!!
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    Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | I see that Lindsay already qualified on Mo and Hemi at the qualifers to compete at the semi's. I wonder how this match race will effect her qualifers??? |
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I see that Lindsay already qualified on Mo and Hemi at the qualifers to compete at the semi's. I wonder how this match race will effect her qualifers???
It shouldn't effect the qualifier... whoever wins this will get a ticket to the American and can skip the qualifiers, or that was my understanding.
Honestly, I think they are veering away from what they started originally. Top 10 in the year end competing against the top 10 from the qualifiers. They need to stick with the original format and stop giving away all these spots based on past history. But it's not my organization, so I guess they can do whatever they want, lol.
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barlracr429 - 2016-01-16 5:10 PM
I see that Lindsay already qualified on Mo and Hemi at the qualifers to compete at the semi's. I wonder how this match race will effect her qualifers???
It shouldn't effect the qualifier... whoever wins this will get a ticket to the American and can skip the qualifiers, or that was my understanding.
Honestly, I think they are veering away from what they started originally. Top 10 in the year end competing against the top 10 from the qualifiers. They need to stick with the original format and stop giving away all these spots based on past history. But it's not my organization, so I guess they can do whatever they want, lol.
I thought it said that whoever doesn't win these Gold Buckle Match races gets an entry into the semi's.
So what I'm wondering is, if Lindsay wins the match, she gets an entry to the American with 1 horse. Since she has Moe and Hemi already qualified to the semi's, can she enter a different horse in the American and still try to get Moe and Hemi through the qualifier and potentially have three horses at the American? Or maybe if she wins the match, she can still take 1 of the 2 to the semi's and get 2 horses into the American?
OR if she loses the match race, does she get to have a third horse in the semi's?
Since this seems to be all thrown together, they probably haven't thought out the rules this far
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  Location: The Great Northwest | I know Lindsey Sears would want Martha in shape for a couple of competition runs. They can hurt them selves if not in shape especially the caliber Martha is. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | barlracr429 - 2016-01-17 12:18 PM grinandbareit - 2016-01-16 10:07 PM barlracr429 - 2016-01-16 5:10 PM I see that Lindsay already qualified on Mo and Hemi at the qualifers to compete at the semi's. I wonder how this match race will effect her qualifers??? It shouldn't effect the qualifier... whoever wins this will get a ticket to the American and can skip the qualifiers, or that was my understanding. Honestly, I think they are veering away from what they started originally. Top 10 in the year end competing against the top 10 from the qualifiers. They need to stick with the original format and stop giving away all these spots based on past history. But it's not my organization, so I guess they can do whatever they want, lol. I thought it said that whoever doesn't win these Gold Buckle Match races gets an entry into the semi's. So what I'm wondering is, if Lindsay wins the match, she gets an entry to the American with 1 horse. Since she has Moe and Hemi already qualified to the semi's, can she enter a different horse in the American and still try to get Moe and Hemi through the qualifier and potentially have three horses at the American? Or maybe if she wins the match, she can still take 1 of the 2 to the semi's and get 2 horses into the American? OR if she loses the match race, does she get to have a third horse in the semi's? Since this seems to be all thrown together, they probably haven't thought out the rules this far I sure hope she decides to run Martha. Even not in competition shape, Martha can probably still outrun most.
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  Location: The Great Northwest | I'm really surprised RFD-TV are allowing Lindsey to run a match race to possibly qualify again? I hope the rules can get firmed-up on The American. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | skye - 2016-01-18 8:45 PM I'm really surprised RFD-TV are allowing Lindsey to run a match race to possibly qualify again? I hope the rules can get firmed-up on The American.
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    Location: Deep South | I like that they've added the match race. And I think it was smart from a business perspective. They are engaging their fans. Getting them talking about it, before the big show gets here, creating their own buzz.
Complaining about changing the rules?? The American HAS changed the rules. They have completely changed the rules of rodeo and they intended to!
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I'll support anything that is for the bettering of the sport. I went to the American the first two years, and am bummed to be missing it this year.
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  Location: The Great Northwest | BamaCanChaser - 2016-01-20 7:30 AM I like that they've added the match race. And I think it was smart from a business perspective. They are engaging their fans. Getting them talking about it, before the big show gets here, creating their own buzz. Complaining about changing the rules?? The American HAS changed the rules. They have completely changed the rules of rodeo and they intended to! They want to give spectators something NEW and thrilling to watch. That's the whole point.
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  Location: The Great Northwest | It is a new and exciting concept for rodeo events "The American". There are going to be things that come up with change and it has been exciting.
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      Location: The edge of no where | skye - 2016-01-19 11:51 AM It is a new and exciting concept for rodeo events "The American". There are going to be things that come up with change and it has been exciting.
I don't see how they can match race Lindsey Sears and that she could qualify again when she has qualified twice this year?
If she wins the match race, then she doesn't have to survive the semi-finals....which are insanely tough.
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       Location: South Texas | A past world champion friend of mine who will remain unnamed was asked to participate in this with another world champion and with Lindsay and they refused.....there were other underlying reasons I wont get into involving ERA but one of them was that she had already qualified to semis making her eligible for the Semis and possibly a million and if she came in as an exemption she would only be eligible for 100k
I dont like that they change the rules as they go.....if you say 10 qualifers then it should be 10 not just add them so you make more money because they do not pay the qualifiers nearly what they should based on the $500 plus entry fee they hold out a lot .....I didnt look but I heard they reduced the entry fee for the SA race to $300 something. Now how is that fair to those that had to pay $500 plus at the previous qualifiers? JMO |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | snazzy - 2016-01-20 6:29 AM A past world champion friend of mine who will remain unnamed was asked to participate in this with another world champion and with Lindsay and they refused.....there were other underlying reasons I wont get into involving ERA but one of them was that she had already qualified to semis making her eligible for the Semis and possibly a million and if she came in as an exemption she would only be eligible for 100k
I dont like that they change the rules as they go.....if you say 10 qualifers then it should be 10 not just add them so you make more money because they do not pay the qualifiers nearly what they should based on the $500 plus entry fee they hold out a lot .....I didnt look but I heard they reduced the entry fee for the SA race to $300 something. Now how is that fair to those that had to pay $500 plus at the previous qualifiers? JMO
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they are lowering entries only for those that have tried in a previous qualifier this past year so they've already coughed up at least $500 and didn't qualify so now they get to try for a reduced rate. Keep in mind....I "think" this is what I read so don't |
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I dont like that they change the rules as they go.....if you say 10 qualifers then it should be 10 not just add them so you make more money because they do not pay the qualifiers nearly what they should based on the $500 plus entry fee they hold out a lot .....I didnt look but I heard they reduced the entry fee for the SA race to $300 something. Now how is that fair to those that had to pay $500 plus at the previous qualifiers? JMO Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they are lowering entries only for those that have tried in a previous qualifier this past year so they've already coughed up at least $500 and didn't qualify so now they get to try for a reduced rate. Keep in mind....I "think" this is what I read so don't I just pulled up the entry form $565 if first qualifier this season or if have already qualified a horse this season. $435 if this is your second time to enter this season and you have not qualified. I understand this is the race their rules and trying to encourage repeat entries but how do you enter the same race and not have to pay the same entry fee?? I can't wrap my head around somebody getting to qualify with a lower entry fee what difference does it make if it was their first second or third race ? It also seems like you're telling the ones who have qualified your good so you get to pay more than those who not been able to get the job done. What about those who have already entered twice at previous qualifiers and paided full entry fee both times??
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | MS2011 - 2016-01-20 8:49 AM Here is the breakdown off the entry form at San Antonio - it's a bit different, but this is such a relatively new event. It's going to evolve for a while, I don't think it's a bad thing that they added an additional qualifier. It's been up for quite a while now, those that haven't managed to get in have got another shot. I firmly believe that the American is the best thing that's happened to rodeo in a long long time, it's going to have some growing pains. Yes - they do hold a lot of the entry fee out from the qualifiers, it's very clear on the form exactly where all the money is going. The Semi-Qualifiers pay out like a slot machine and the payoff at the American is pretty amazing.
Contestants who have never entered a Qualifier this Season-OR-who have already Earned One (1) Semi-Finals Qualification Pay:
Entry Fees: $560.00 ea.
(includes $500 American Fees + $60 Saturday Open Fees)
Contestants who have previously competed in a Qualifier this Season but NOT Earned a Semi-Finals Qualification Pay:
Entry Fees: $435.00 ea.
(includes $375 American Fees + $60 Saturday Open Fees)
I see it as a pretty interesting way and an "incentive" to get competitors to try AGAIN if they didn't qualify.
IMO....EVERY organization changes their rules from year to year so I don't see it as a big deal as long as you know the rules......
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | outrundaizy - 2016-01-22 12:38 AM Out of ALL the barrel racers they could pick, I'm just surprised they picked someone who's already qualified 2 horses, I love lindsay, but that doesn't make any snese to me.
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       Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | P68 - 2016-01-25 8:51 AM
Have you guys seen the interviews? I saw that Lindsay's portion was posted on rfdtv's site (I don't get the station, sadly) but I can't find Kelly's anywhere. Does anyone have it and is willing to share?
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Kelly is running Ima Firefighter!
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Lindsay posted a video of her riding Martha this past week. It's a public page. Anyone can view it no matter whether you have Facebook or not. She posted it would take a miracle to get both Martha and herself ready. Martha looks good. https://www.facebook.com/lindzfanpage/
I will enjoy watching it nonetheless.
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Kelly is running Ima Firefighter!
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | PennyAnnie - 2016-01-27 8:37 PM Does anyone know how much the tickets are to watch the matches? I go on the website and there are no prices. Thanks
$15.00 for general admission
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | sodapop - 2016-02-07 9:14 AM I was just thinking about the date this will be done live on Feb. 10. I am sure it is a scheduling issue at this late in the plan that it couldn't have been on a weekend. The middle of the week just seems odd to me and a bit funny. Hey let's have it on Wednesday. Oh wait.......... regular folks usually have to work on Wednesday. It also seems odd to me that it will take RFD-TV a week to air it on Feb. 17. At first I thought I read it was going to air the 14th, but I see on their Facebook page they responded with the 17th.
Lindsay posted a video of her riding Martha this past week. It's a public page. Anyone can view it no matter whether you have Facebook or not. She posted it would take a miracle to get both Martha and herself ready. Martha looks good. https://www.facebook.com/lindzfanpage/
I will enjoy watching it nonetheless.
They are having a qualifier over the weekend for the American so it all ties together. There aren't that many seats available at the Rose Palace so even if they sell out they would still probably go in the hole so airing it on TV is where they will make up for that. |
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I have mixed feelings about the lowered entry fees for some trying again. IMO everyone should pay the same entry fee. I think they also need to have a set schedule of qualifiers at the beginning of the year and quit adding. But regardless the American is the premier rodeo now and is driving horse prices up so it's all good. |
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  Location: The Great Northwest | quickdraw - 2016-02-08 5:05 PM Kelly is running 2 nice buckskins. One is Ima Firefighter. The other is a very proven rodeo horse that runs in TX and is as solid and consistent as a rock. I'm excited for her. I have mixed feelings about the lowered entry fees for some trying again. IMO everyone should pay the same entry fee. I think they also need to have a set schedule of qualifiers at the beginning of the year and quit adding. But regardless the American is the premier rodeo now and is driving horse prices up so it's all good.
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sonyawalz - 2016-02-07 7:43 AM
Kelly is running Ima Firefighter!
This is so exciting for you Sonya. Kelly will do great on Backdraft. Good luck to you both!
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | quickdraw - 2016-02-07 9:23 PM It's been stated by several people that they offered a reduced entry fee to people entering the qualifier at the Rose Palace if you had entered a prior 2016 qualifier and did not qualify yet. Part of the fees are jackpotted that day and the rest (minus office charges) goes to the semis and finale. That's why I don't think that's fair.
I agree with the way they keep adding qualifiers. It would suck to travel a long distance for one and then at the end of season have one in your backyard.
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First round Linsday 15.666 on moe Kelly 15.949 on smokey Second round Lindsay 16.030 on hemi Kelly 16.171+5 on Ima Firefighter Third round Kelly 15.719 on smokey Lindsay 15.734 on moe Fourth round Kelly +5 (they did not announce time nor move camera to timer) on Ima Firefighter Lindsay 15.621 on the Gray (did not catch its name) |
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| bccanchaser16 - 2016-02-10 7:48 PM From Facebook:
First round
Linsday 15.666 on moe
Kelly 15.949 on smokey
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Lindsay 16.030 on hemi
Kelly 16.171+5 on Ima Firefighter
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Kelly 15.719 on smokey
Lindsay 15.734 on moe
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Kelly +5 (they did not announce time nor move camera to timer) on Ima Firefighter
Lindsay 15.621 on the Gray (did not catch its name)
Yay Lindsay- she has made it to NFR on more than one horse and can obviously ride more than one- would have liked to see Kelly's smiling face in there as well, wonder why she went back to Firefighter on round four instead of Smokey who she was having better runs with? Darn it- |
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| trickster j - 2016-02-10 10:00 PM bccanchaser16 - 2016-02-10 7:48 PM From Facebook:
First round
Linsday 15.666 on moe
Kelly 15.949 on smokey
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Lindsay 16.030 on hemi
Kelly 16.171+5 on Ima Firefighter
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Kelly 15.719 on smokey
Lindsay 15.734 on moe
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Kelly +5 (they did not announce time nor move camera to timer) on Ima Firefighter
Lindsay 15.621 on the Gray (did not catch its name) Yay Lindsay- she has made it to NFR on more than one horse and can obviously ride more than one- would have liked to see Kelly's smiling face in there as well, wonder why she went back to Firefighter on round four instead of Smokey who she was having better runs with? Darn it-
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| sodapop - 2016-02-10 8:03 PM trickster j - 2016-02-10 10:00 PM bccanchaser16 - 2016-02-10 7:48 PM From Facebook:
First round
Linsday 15.666 on moe
Kelly 15.949 on smokey
Second round
Lindsay 16.030 on hemi
Kelly 16.171+5 on Ima Firefighter
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Kelly 15.719 on smokey
Lindsay 15.734 on moe
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Kelly +5 (they did not announce time nor move camera to timer) on Ima Firefighter
Lindsay 15.621 on the Gray (did not catch its name) Yay Lindsay- she has made it to NFR on more than one horse and can obviously ride more than one- would have liked to see Kelly's smiling face in there as well, wonder why she went back to Firefighter on round four instead of Smokey who she was having better runs with? Darn it- Is Smokey the 22 year old horse?
Yes- I just watched the runs and saw that Smokey was 22- wow what a guy! Guess Kelly didn't want to knock out 4 runs with him and needed a backup- she rode both of them really well I thought- the older horse just made her look better- |
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| trickster j - 2016-02-10 10:12 PM sodapop - 2016-02-10 8:03 PM trickster j - 2016-02-10 10:00 PM bccanchaser16 - 2016-02-10 7:48 PM From Facebook:
First round
Linsday 15.666 on moe
Kelly 15.949 on smokey
Second round
Lindsay 16.030 on hemi
Kelly 16.171+5 on Ima Firefighter
Third round
Kelly 15.719 on smokey
Lindsay 15.734 on moe
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Kelly +5 (they did not announce time nor move camera to timer) on Ima Firefighter
Lindsay 15.621 on the Gray (did not catch its name) Yay Lindsay- she has made it to NFR on more than one horse and can obviously ride more than one- would have liked to see Kelly's smiling face in there as well, wonder why she went back to Firefighter on round four instead of Smokey who she was having better runs with? Darn it- Is Smokey the 22 year old horse? Yes- I just watched the runs and saw that Smokey was 22- wow what a guy! Guess Kelly didn't want to knock out 4 runs with him and needed a backup- she rode both of them really well I thought- the older horse just made her look better-
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        Location: North of the 49th Parallel | skye - 2016-02-10 8:32 PM What other horse did Lindsey Sears go to the NFR on other than Martha?
Moe. Martha was injured for a good chunk one year and Moe picked up the slack.
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I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse. |
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| Nevertooold - 2016-02-10 9:13 PM We just got home.
I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse.
I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$ |
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| sodapop - 2016-02-10 10:03 PM trickster j - 2016-02-10 10:00 PM bccanchaser16 - 2016-02-10 7:48 PM From Facebook:
First round Linsday 15.666 on moe Kelly 15.949 on smokey Second round Lindsay 16.030 on hemi Kelly 16.171+5 on Ima Firefighter Third round Kelly 15.719 on smokey Lindsay 15.734 on moe Fourth round Kelly +5 (they did not announce time nor move camera to timer) on Ima Firefighter Lindsay 15.621 on the Gray (did not catch its name) Yay Lindsay- she has made it to NFR on more than one horse and can obviously ride more than one- would have liked to see Kelly's smiling face in there as well, wonder why she went back to Firefighter on round four instead of Smokey who she was having better runs with? Darn it- Is Smokey the 22 year old horse? Smokey is from my area, I have had the pleasure of watching him run for years and is something to see. His owner comes in over and undering from the back of the alley, Smokey's flat out flying and so fast you think there is no way he can turn then he just drops and wraps the first barrel. Gorgeous horse who runs a gorgeous pattern and loves his job. He runs hard and powerful, Kelly did a great job.
I bet not asking him to make a third run was a decision made for the horse's best interest.
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| I thought it was advertised as 2 runs on 2 different horses. Kelly ran 2 different horses, but Lindsay ran 3 different horses I am pretty sure. She ran a gray horse at the end that she only ran the one time. So technically Lindsay ran one horse twice and two other horses once. Anyone know anything about that? Is this just one more example of the American making it up as they go?
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         Location: Louisiana | trickster j - 2016-02-11 12:04 AM Nevertooold - 2016-02-10 9:13 PM We just got home.
I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse.
I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$
Well that's kind of a crummy thing to say when his owner is one of our very own BHW members...and obviously posting on this very thread... I get that nobody loves every horse but to just put him down like that seems a little mean. Sonya has always seemed like a very nice lady. |
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| dashnlotti - 2016-02-11 8:35 AM
trickster j - 2016-02-11 12:04 AM Nevertooold - 2016-02-10 9:13 PM We just got home.
I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse.
I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$
Well that's kind of a crummy thing to say when his owner is one of our very own BHW members...and obviously posting on this very thread... I get that nobody loves every horse but to just put him down like that seems a little mean. Sonya has always seemed like a very nice lady.
I do not think the OP was being mean. Just stating the obvious. I would have loved to see Kelly go in there on a decent horse a really be able to ride. She did the best with what she had and I think made the horse look as good as anyone would have been able to. No discrediting the horse in no way. He just is not the caliber you would expect to see at a run off like this. |
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| I am really disappointed in the ladies on this thread that have made backhanded remarks about the caliber of horses that were ran last night. Whether you agree with the choices that Kelly made or not, she picked horses she felt like she could succeed on, those horses were owned by people who obviously believe in them as well. If you do not know first hand information or are a part of the situation, find something nice to say or do not say anything at all. Making assumptions for the world to see makes you look like an ASS... Be the bigger person and just keep it to yourself. |
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| Warriors Mom - 2016-02-11 6:40 AM dashnlotti - 2016-02-11 8:35 AM trickster j - 2016-02-11 12:04 AM Nevertooold - 2016-02-10 9:13 PM We just got home.
I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse. I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$ Well that's kind of a crummy thing to say when his owner is one of our very own BHW members...and obviously posting on this very thread... I get that nobody loves every horse but to just put him down like that seems a little mean. Sonya has always seemed like a very nice lady. I do not think the OP was being mean. Just stating the obvious. I would have loved to see Kelly go in there on a decent horse a really be able to ride. She did the best with what she had and I think made the horse look as good as anyone would have been able to. No discrediting the horse in no way. He just is not the caliber you would expect to see at a run off like this. Thank you Warriors Mom- I was also surprised to see her come to an event like this with that level of a horse-
eta: dashnlotti- I am sorry I sounded negative about the horse, I read my post again and I probably could have worded it differently somehow to get the point across. Apologies to the owner and fellow BB too- both of the horses Kelly rode are nice, and she definitely did a fabulous job with them!
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      Location: The edge of no where | mbcruel21 - 2016-02-11 9:04 AM I am really disappointed in the ladies on this thread that have made backhanded remarks about the caliber of horses that were ran last night. Whether you agree with the choices that Kelly made or not, she picked horses she felt like she could succeed on, those horses were owned by people who obviously believe in them as well. If you do not know first hand information or are a part of the situation, find something nice to say or do not say anything at all. Making assumptions for the world to see makes you look like an ASS... Be the bigger person and just keep it to yourself.
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| Oh shoot- like I already said, I am sorry I stated the obvious, but at least I didn't say that Kelly got a "whupping" like RFD-TV did- I should have worded my post differently......
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Nevertooold - 2016-02-10 9:13 PM We just got home.
I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse.
I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$
His last run was a 15.8 plus 5... Lindsey's fast time was a 15.6... so if Lindsey is riding 1D horses and Backdraft is only a "3D at best", are you saying all the horses were running like sh#t last night? That it was a fluke? Maybe the rider you've been seeing run him in Arizona isn't a 1D rider, maybe she holds him back. I think you posting that was disgusting. |
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    Location: South Dakota | Warriors Mom - 2016-02-11 8:40 AM dashnlotti - 2016-02-11 8:35 AM trickster j - 2016-02-11 12:04 AM Nevertooold - 2016-02-10 9:13 PM We just got home.
I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse.
I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$ Well that's kind of a crummy thing to say when his owner is one of our very own BHW members...and obviously posting on this very thread...
I get that nobody loves every horse but to just put him down like that seems a little mean. Sonya has always seemed like a very nice lady. I do not think the OP was being mean. Just stating the obvious. I would have loved to see Kelly go in there on a decent horse a really be able to ride. She did the best with what she had and I think made the horse look as good as anyone would have been able to. No discrediting the horse in no way. He just is not the caliber you would expect to see at a run off like this.
The mean spirited comments on a very good horse like Backdraft are just that...mean. Any horseman can see that the horse is talented, and has a great quick turn....just as it is hard for a rider to jump on any horse and make a smoking run, it is hard for the horse as well...to figure out it's rider. Congrats to both Lindsay and Kelly for being good sports, and giving us some good watching...thumbs up to each horse, it would be a thrill to make a run on each one. To those meanies on BHW who bash folks who mess up on barrel runs...who choose the "wrong" horse and on and on...they maybe need to stop and think that it is hurtful, mean. Seriously how would you feel if someone made snarky remarks about your horse? |
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| mbcruel21 - 2016-02-11 9:04 AM
I am really disappointed in the ladies on this thread that have made backhanded remarks about the caliber of horses that were ran last night. Whether you agree with the choices that Kelly made or not, she picked horses she felt like she could succeed on, those horses were owned by people who obviously believe in them as well. If you do not know first hand information or are a part of the situation, find something nice to say or do not say anything at all. Making assumptions for the world to see makes you look like an ASS... Be the bigger person and just keep it to yourself.
Completely agree here! If he isn't the "caliber" of horse for this event his times wouldn't have been right there with Lindsey's... |
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       Location: torrington, wy | Can't we all just be nice. They ran what they ran, how ever it went just be happy for them that they got to run and we get to watch. I could win every round at the NFR from my seat in front of the TV, put me down in the arena, Different STORY. I am so tired of all the negativity, get happy and get a life. |
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| tebar - 2016-02-11 10:21 AM
Can't we all just be nice. They ran what they ran, how ever it went just be happy for them that they got to run and we get to watch. I could win every round at the NFR from my seat in front of the TV, put me down in the arena, Different STORY. I am so tired of all the negativity, get happy and get a life.
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       Location: IA | I think the barrel race was a very good match. For Kelly to jump on horses she has never ridden, after surgery, and ride within that close of times compared to Lindsay, who rode her own horses and to anyones knowledge hasn't taken time off--very impressive. Dare we even consider that if she had a few more weeks to ride and get in shape, the winner could have been different?
And we all know that the rider makes a huge difference--I've watched a horse that could barely catch a 5D check outrun the entire field with a saddle change, different bit, and not to mention a rider change. Every single one of us has seen that.
To have a horse that is great enough to be considered and especially selected by a World Champion to ride in an event like this--with all that pressure from not competing, coming back from medical time off, and the actual event---my hat is off to you and thank you for being willing to put your horse out there.
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If you wouldn't want to come on here and read a post from someone you don't know cutting your horse down - then you probably shouldn't do it either. It amazes me the things people will say without thinking. |
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| WrapN3MN - 2016-02-11 12:18 PM
You mean just because you saw him run "2D/3D times" on a huge STANDARD pattern in AZ means he is not a good enough for this level? Good grief. Ever think horses just do better in certain size pens?
If you wouldn't want to come on here and read a post from someone you don't know cutting your horse down - then you probably shouldn't do it either. It amazes me the things people will say without thinking.
I've seen this horse in Az too and I think he is an awesome horse. Not all horses like the pen where the Arizona races are held - South Buckeye. I had a horse that just would not run in that pen - ever - I could hustle and come running or I could sit there and enjoy the ride .. the result was the same. I quit running her there for that reason.
Horses are not machines. Just because the particular horse was running a certain time at 1 pen doesn't mean the horse isn't a pro level horse. There are horses that run better outdoors vs. indoors and vice versa. In looking at the times, it appears that this particular horse can run. SMH |
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   Location: Arkansas | Sonya is happy with how Backdraft did according to her post on FB. Kelly did not get any practice runs on him, just some slow work. I think they did great with the situation. He is a nice horse and is producing some nice horses. |
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     Location: South Dakota | gypsy1997 - 2016-02-11 1:04 PM Sonya is happy with how Backdraft did according to her post on FB. Kelly did not get any practice runs on him, just some slow work. I think they did great with the situation. He is a nice horse and is producing some nice horses.
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| gypsy1997 - 2016-02-11 11:04 AM
Sonya is happy with how Backdraft did according to her post on FB. Kelly did not get any practice runs on him, just some slow work. I think they did great with the situation. He is a nice horse and is producing some nice horses.
Agree- Kelly did awesome with that horse- I was super impressed!
I personally have not seen Backdraft run in the 1d for the last two years here in AZ in a variety of pens- and I'm not saying that to be mean, it's just a fact and the results are online if anyone wants to see what I'm talking about. I personally would have thought Kelly would run a horse that had been running and winning currently, but it doesn't sound like she had a lot of time to choose a horse let alone get some runs on it before the match race. I also would have liked to see her champion winning smile on TV again! :)
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     Location: N Texas | ridejg - 2016-02-11 9:26 AM Warriors Mom - 2016-02-11 8:40 AM dashnlotti - 2016-02-11 8:35 AM trickster j - 2016-02-11 12:04 AM Nevertooold - 2016-02-10 9:13 PM We just got home.
I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse.
I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$ Well that's kind of a crummy thing to say when his owner is one of our very own BHW members...and obviously posting on this very thread...
I get that nobody loves every horse but to just put him down like that seems a little mean. Sonya has always seemed like a very nice lady. I do not think the OP was being mean. Just stating the obvious. I would have loved to see Kelly go in there on a decent horse a really be able to ride. She did the best with what she had and I think made the horse look as good as anyone would have been able to. No discrediting the horse in no way. He just is not the caliber you would expect to see at a run off like this. The mean spirited comments on a very good horse like Backdraft are just that...mean. Any horseman can see that the horse is talented, and has a great quick turn....just as it is hard for a rider to jump on any horse and make a smoking run, it is hard for the horse as well...to figure out it's rider.
Congrats to both Lindsay and Kelly for being good sports, and giving us some good watching...thumbs up to each horse, it would be a thrill to make a run on each one.
To those meanies on BHW who bash folks who mess up on barrel runs...who choose the "wrong" horse and on and on...they maybe need to stop and think that it is hurtful, mean. Seriously how would you feel if someone made snarky remarks about your horse? You mean a horse like Can't Bully This Guy? Funny how when it's a well-known, "popular" horse, people are so quick to come to its defense and make the commenters out to be big meanies, but when it's an unknown, unproven horse, it's totally ok to have a free-for-all bash fest with it. She didn't say anything mean or degrading about Backdraft, just made some observations about how he's been running lately because she's seen him in person.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Everyone here was a past World Champion and since Charmayne dominated for 11 years, in the sport of barrel racing there aren't very many past World Champions that are still running. I've seen Kelly hauling her daughter but have not seen her personally run a horse for some time.
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     Location: OH. IO | Its so nice to see Lindsay and Kelly posting about each other and to each other. And to see shes excited about having a Backdraft baby in her barn someday too:) CONGRATS TO BOTH LADIES ON DOING WHAT YOU DO BEST! AND CONGRATS Sonya....YOUR BOY IS BEAUTIFUL.I WOULD BE PROUD TO HAVE A BABY BY HIM IN MY BARN ANYDAY. You should be so proud of him AND YOURSELF. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | sodapop - 2016-02-11 7:34 PM sodapop - 2016-02-11 6:32 AM I thought it was advertised as 2 runs on 2 different horses. Kelly ran 2 different horses, but Lindsey ran 3 different horses I am pretty sure. She ran a gray horse at the end that she only ran the one time. So technically Lindsey ran one horse twice and two other horses once. Anyone know anything about that? Is this just one more example of the American making it up as they go? Anyone know the answer? That is what was stated and then all of a sudden they said they could ride one of the same horses or ride a third in the last set. They are great at making up rules as they go so I don't know exactly what happened or if Hemi got hurt when he ran into Moe so they let her ride a third.
I don't have a clue how many horses Lyndsey had with her as she was riding a sorrel horse around earlier in the day and it didn't look like Martha but I'm pretty sure she was there also.
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    Location: Texas | As Hank&Tank (or vice versa) stated earlier. Lyndsey rode "Grace" who was raised ad trained by Alicia Spann. So happy for them! Alicia is one of the very kindest, hard working, outgoing, humble Christian gals I have ever known. She and Lyndsey are very good friends. Couldn't have happened to a better team!!!! Congrats Grace!!!
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I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse.
I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$ Well that's kind of a crummy thing to say when his owner is one of our very own BHW members...and obviously posting on this very thread...
I get that nobody loves every horse but to just put him down like that seems a little mean. Sonya has always seemed like a very nice lady. I do not think the OP was being mean. Just stating the obvious. I would have loved to see Kelly go in there on a decent horse a really be able to ride. She did the best with what she had and I think made the horse look as good as anyone would have been able to. No discrediting the horse in no way. He just is not the caliber you would expect to see at a run off like this. The mean spirited comments on a very good horse like Backdraft are just that...mean. Any horseman can see that the horse is talented, and has a great quick turn....just as it is hard for a rider to jump on any horse and make a smoking run, it is hard for the horse as well...to figure out it's rider.
Congrats to both Lindsay and Kelly for being good sports, and giving us some good watching...thumbs up to each horse, it would be a thrill to make a run on each one.
To those meanies on BHW who bash folks who mess up on barrel runs...who choose the "wrong" horse and on and on...they maybe need to stop and think that it is hurtful, mean. Seriously how would you feel if someone made snarky remarks about your horse?
You mean a horse like Can't Bully This Guy? Funny how when it's a well-known, "popular" horse, people are so quick to come to its defense and make the commenters out to be big meanies, but when it's an unknown, unproven horse, it's totally ok to have a free-for-all bash fest with it.
She didn't say anything mean or degrading about Backdraft, just made some observations about how he's been running lately because she's seen him in person.
Hello? No it is not okay to have a "bash fest" on any horse...period. |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Timber Creek - 2016-02-11 2:23 PM gypsy1997 - 2016-02-11 1:04 PM Sonya is happy with how Backdraft did according to her post on FB. Kelly did not get any practice runs on him, just some slow work. I think they did great with the situation. He is a nice horse and is producing some nice horses. She should be, he ran beautifully! I really like him.
I finally saw the videos last night and I thought they looked great too! |
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     Location: N Texas | ridejg - 2016-02-12 7:56 AM
Gunner11 - 2016-02-11 3:18 PM ridejg - 2016-02-11 9:26 AM Warriors Mom - 2016-02-11 8:40 AM dashnlotti - 2016-02-11 8:35 AM trickster j - 2016-02-11 12:04 AM Nevertooold - 2016-02-10 9:13 PM We just got home.
I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse.
I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$ Well that's kind of a crummy thing to say when his owner is one of our very own BHW members...and obviously posting on this very thread...
I get that nobody loves every horse but to just put him down like that seems a little mean. Sonya has always seemed like a very nice lady. I do not think the OP was being mean. Just stating the obvious. I would have loved to see Kelly go in there on a decent horse a really be able to ride. She did the best with what she had and I think made the horse look as good as anyone would have been able to. No discrediting the horse in no way. He just is not the caliber you would expect to see at a run off like this. The mean spirited comments on a very good horse like Backdraft are just that...mean. Any horseman can see that the horse is talented, and has a great quick turn....just as it is hard for a rider to jump on any horse and make a smoking run, it is hard for the horse as well...to figure out it's rider.
Congrats to both Lindsay and Kelly for being good sports, and giving us some good watching...thumbs up to each horse, it would be a thrill to make a run on each one.
To those meanies on BHW who bash folks who mess up on barrel runs...who choose the "wrong" horse and on and on...they maybe need to stop and think that it is hurtful, mean. Seriously how would you feel if someone made snarky remarks about your horse?
You mean a horse like Can't Bully This Guy? Funny how when it's a well-known, "popular" horse, people are so quick to come to its defense and make the commenters out to be big meanies, but when it's an unknown, unproven horse, it's totally ok to have a free-for-all bash fest with it.
She didn't say anything mean or degrading about Backdraft, just made some observations about how he's been running lately because she's seen him in person.
Hello? No it is not okay to have a "bash fest" on any horse...period.
That's my point. On the embryo thread, NO ONE got called out for their rude and mean comments about Can't Bully This Guy. The lady's dobermans even got dragged into it. However, when it's a well known horse, you don't dare say anything that could be interpreted as even remotely negative because you'll get flamed for it. Just a lot of hypocrisy. |
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| I read this post, don't personally know the horse in question.
One thing to keep in mind rodeo horses and jackpot horses are not created equal.
There are phenomenal jackpot horses that can win big jackpots, yet be a second off the fastest time at a rodeo.
There are incredible rodeo horses that can win big rodeos and be in the 3d at jackpots.
Very few can do both |
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   Location: Ainsworth, NE | jake16 - 2016-02-11 6:42 PM Its so nice to see Lindsay and Kelly posting about each other and to each other. And to see shes excited about having a Backdraft baby in her barn someday too:) CONGRATS TO BOTH LADIES ON DOING WHAT YOU DO BEST! AND CONGRATS Sonya....YOUR BOY IS BEAUTIFUL.I WOULD BE PROUD TO HAVE A BABY BY HIM IN MY BARN ANYDAY. You should be so proud of him AND YOURSELF.
thank you!!! and I am VERY proud of him! Kelly ran against him years ago at pro rodeos when I used to rodeo and she knows just what he can do on ground that isn't Jackpot deep and how the loud atmosphere would not bother him! That is why she choose him! She said multiple times that if she would have had the time to make some practice runs on him she would have been able to make faster/better runs and she publicly (and privately) stated how much she was impressed by him! Not only did Kelly compliment him, but Lindsay did also! So, thank you to EVERYONE on here who said such nice things about him! And do not worry, I am not taking the negative comments of Trickster J personally. I also know that anyone who is looking for stallion options/prospects is capable of watching the videos themselves and realizing that Kelly chose wisely! I know that the opinions of two women who have won multiple world championships speaks volumes! It was an amazing opportunity for me to be involved in and I am so proud of my boy! |
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        Location: North of the 49th Parallel | And if anyone is still wondering, since Lindsay is now in the American, they rolled down at the Calgary qualifier so Chelsea Moore will be going to the semis. In other words, Lindsay still only has 2 spots to possibly go on, not 3. |
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   Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | ridejg - 2016-02-12 7:56 AM Gunner11 - 2016-02-11 3:18 PM ridejg - 2016-02-11 9:26 AM Warriors Mom - 2016-02-11 8:40 AM dashnlotti - 2016-02-11 8:35 AM trickster j - 2016-02-11 12:04 AM Nevertooold - 2016-02-10 9:13 PM We just got home.
I would have loved to have seen Kelly win it. Wish she had more runs under her belt with Backdraft as she would have whupped Lyndsey IMO. Pretty hard to catch ride on 2 horses.
One of Lyndsey's horses ran out the back and evidentley doesn't have brakes and ran into her other horse.
I am sorry but I completly disagree- I've seen the Backdraft horse run for two years in AZ and he is 2d, 3d at best- not even a hand like Lindsay could bring him up further- Kelly did her best with what she was offered- and I think she is owed honors for making that horse look kinda good at best- go Kelly! :$ Well that's kind of a crummy thing to say when his owner is one of our very own BHW members...and obviously posting on this very thread...
I get that nobody loves every horse but to just put him down like that seems a little mean. Sonya has always seemed like a very nice lady. I do not think the OP was being mean. Just stating the obvious. I would have loved to see Kelly go in there on a decent horse a really be able to ride. She did the best with what she had and I think made the horse look as good as anyone would have been able to. No discrediting the horse in no way. He just is not the caliber you would expect to see at a run off like this. The mean spirited comments on a very good horse like Backdraft are just that...mean. Any horseman can see that the horse is talented, and has a great quick turn....just as it is hard for a rider to jump on any horse and make a smoking run, it is hard for the horse as well...to figure out it's rider.
Congrats to both Lindsay and Kelly for being good sports, and giving us some good watching...thumbs up to each horse, it would be a thrill to make a run on each one.
To those meanies on BHW who bash folks who mess up on barrel runs...who choose the "wrong" horse and on and on...they maybe need to stop and think that it is hurtful, mean. Seriously how would you feel if someone made snarky remarks about your horse?
You mean a horse like Can't Bully This Guy? Funny how when it's a well-known, "popular" horse, people are so quick to come to its defense and make the commenters out to be big meanies, but when it's an unknown, unproven horse, it's totally ok to have a free-for-all bash fest with it.
She didn't say anything mean or degrading about Backdraft, just made some observations about how he's been running lately because she's seen him in person.
Hello? No it is not okay to have a "bash fest" on any horse...period.
Good gracious...political correctness run amok...the OP was making verifiable statements about Backdraft's latest tuns. Factual observations. The horse has been running in the 2-3 D or not...why is it bashing to speak the TRUTH???? It's NOT. She wasn't ugly, she wasn't running Backdraft down, to me...but then I'm not one who gets all wound up and runs crying home to momma when the truth hits the fan. Those were facts and observations, hon, not insults. Quitcher cryin', and come back to play with us. :) It's gonna be alright, here in America, the land of freedom of speech.
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| bccanchaser16 - 2016-02-13 4:20 PM
And if anyone is still wondering, since Lindsay is now in the American, they rolled down at the Calgary qualifier so Chelsea Moore will be going to the semis. In other words, Lindsay still only has 2 spots to possibly go on, not 3.
Yikes! Do you think they made her aware ahead of time that it was a possibility? I don't know Chelsea or where she's from but seems like a heck of a trip if she's not already in TX to arrange in a week. I'd be a little perturbed if there wasn't a heads up...
Curious to see if the match races happen again if they are a bit better organized when it comes to folks having other qualifiers, how many horses etc. |
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| OhMax - 2016-02-14 5:56 AM
bccanchaser16 - 2016-02-13 4:20 PM
And if anyone is still wondering, since Lindsay is now in the American, they rolled down at the Calgary qualifier so Chelsea Moore will be going to the semis. In other words, Lindsay still only has 2 spots to possibly go on, not 3.
Yikes! Do you think they made her aware ahead of time that it was a possibility? I don't know Chelsea or where she's from but seems like a heck of a trip if she's not already in TX to arrange in a week. I'd be a little perturbed if there wasn't a heads up...
Curious to see if the match races happen again if they are a bit better organized when it comes to folks having other qualifiers, how many horses etc.
Luckily for Chelsea she is already down south hitting some of the rodeos so she is ready to roll :) |
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       Location: Kansas | cheryl makofka - 2016-02-12 10:35 AM I read this post, don't personally know the horse in question. One thing to keep in mind rodeo horses and jackpot horses are not created equal. There are phenomenal jackpot horses that can win big jackpots, yet be a second off the fastest time at a rodeo. There are incredible rodeo horses that can win big rodeos and be in the 3d at jackpots. Very few can do both
Man that is the truth!!! I've got a sorrel who rarely runs in the 1D at jackpots but is a killer rodeo horse. That shallow ground doesn't faze him a bit. There are also so many other factors - pen size for example - that play into how a horse clocks. Hard to label a horse 2D/3D etc with only seeing them in one type of setup.
On the topic of Ima Firefighter, I'd love to have one of his babies. I have drooled over his ads for years but don't think it would work very well to breed any of my horses to him since mine are all geldings LOL. |
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