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| Please help! I have a gelding that I noticed was limping last week. I put him on stall rest for a couple of days and he started walking a lot better. Then I came out last night and COULD NOT get him to walk. AT ALL. He is basically standing on his tippy toe. My guess is an abscess but not entirely sure. |
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Location: West Texas | If there is little to no swelling, odds are you are right with the abscess, especially if you had recent moisture. |
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Location: Kansas | bucket of warm water, with epsom salt. Soak it for 10-20 minutes 3-5 times a day. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CALL the VET........ |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2016-01-15 9:00 AM bucket of warm water, with epsom salt. Soak it for 10-20 minutes 3-5 times a day.
Sounds like an abscess and there is nothing better than hot (bath water warm/hot) water and epsom salts.
But if you haven't dealt with this before, a vet might be in order
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Location: Central Texas | Probably an abscess but I would call the vet to make sure. Especially if you haven't treated one before. |
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| I am having the farrier come to check on him for now just because he lives at the barn to see if it is an abscess. I gave him bute last night and was able to walk a little better but was still unable to put pressure on his leg. |
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Location: Kansas | is there any heat in that leg? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Did you check to make sure theres not a nail or something else stuck in his foot, I would want it looked at ASAP.. |
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| If it's a abscess don't give butte. It will make it harder to draw the infection out |
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It's been cooking/going on for a week? He doesn't have a bute deficiency...my pony would be seeing the vet. I don't gamble.
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| No it started last week and got better and so I did not take him to the vet because he was better. I only gave him 10cc of bute last night because he could not walk and I did not know what it was. |
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| Quick update. I went out and he was walking like nothin ever happened. I looked at his foot and saw that it was an abcess that had just popped because I saw the oozing. I had the ferrier with me there to confirm everything. The abcess was right at the top of his hoof. Any advice on aftercare and when it is ok to ride again. |
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| Yep, once it breaks horses go instantly better if not sound. lol I had a horse that had an abcess that tried to come out under the shoe. SHoe prevented it from breaking. Horse was 3 legged lame, took 20 minutes to walk from pen to barn about 100 foot away. Shoer pulled shoe and it burst. He went to raising a fuss bucking and kicking.. lol He PRANCED back to the pen 100 % sound.
Aftercare, I would soak the foot in epsom salts for 2 days or so and apply a icthamol salve to the hole and wrap with diaper. Change daily. THat hole will need to close up. |
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Location: West Texas | What I thought, from your description. Everytime I have seen what you described, it was an abscess. Probably 20 times in my lifetime. First time I saw it I was very concerned. 2nd -5th time we did all of the treatment.....Now, I don't do anything before or after and it all works out just the same. In a couple of days he will be sound, doing everything or doing nothing (except cleaning out his feet).
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Location: Central Texas | FLITASTIC - 2016-01-15 11:14 AM
Yep, once it breaks horses go instantly better if not sound. lol I had a horse that had an abcess that tried to come out under the shoe. SHoe prevented it from breaking. Horse was 3 legged lame, took 20 minutes to walk from pen to barn about 100 foot away. Shoer pulled shoe and it burst. He went to raising a fuss bucking and kicking.. lol He PRANCED back to the pen 100 % sound.
Aftercare, I would soak the foot in epsom salts for 2 days or so and apply a icthamol salve to the hole and wrap with diaper. Change daily. THat hole will need to close up.
this is what I do also. Works great!
edited: and I do not care how many times it happens it still scares the crap out of me when I see them 2 legged lame!
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | heidiinaz - 2016-01-15 9:52 AM If it's a abscess don't give butte. It will make it harder to draw the infection out
I have to disagree here. Walking is often what is needed to force the abcess out and to keep it draining and bute may give the necessary relief to get them moving. |
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Location: Central Texas | SC Wrangler - 2016-01-15 1:26 PM
heidiinaz - 2016-01-15 9:52 AM If it's a abscess don't give butte. It will make it harder to draw the infection out
I have to disagree here. Walking is often what is needed to force the abcess out and to keep it draining and bute may give the necessary relief to get them moving.
I had to go do some research and of course you come up with alot of opinions but just wanted to share this. I am not debating which is right or wrong but found this interesting.
1.The Bute will reduce the inflammation and also the ability of the horse to fight the infection.
2.Also by reducing the inflammation in a case where the abscess is trying to break at the top of the coronet, we will slow down the whole process and your horse may be lame for several weeks.
" I never like to use any pain killers or anti-inflammatory drugs in this case, as it usually prolongs the suffering of the animal anyway. However, if the threat of foundering exist on account of severe infection of the laminae, that may be another matter. Never the less, I have treated successfully many severely abscessed feet without using Butazolidin. I am aware of the fact, that it is very painful to see your horse suffering, but it is better for him when it is over quicker. "
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | ampratt - 2016-01-15 1:36 PM SC Wrangler - 2016-01-15 1:26 PM heidiinaz - 2016-01-15 9:52 AM If it's a abscess don't give butte. It will make it harder to draw the infection out I have to disagree here. Walking is often what is needed to force the abcess out and to keep it draining and bute may give the necessary relief to get them moving. I had to go do some research and of course you come up with alot of opinions but just wanted to share this. I am not debating which is right or wrong but found this interesting. 1.The Bute will reduce the inflammation and also the ability of the horse to fight the infection. 2.Also by reducing the inflammation in a case where the abscess is trying to break at the top of the coronet, we will slow down the whole process and your horse may be lame for several weeks. " I never like to use any pain killers or anti-inflammatory drugs in this case, as it usually prolongs the suffering of the animal anyway. However, if the threat of foundering exist on account of severe infection of the laminae, that may be another matter. Never the less, I have treated successfully many severely abscessed feet without using Butazolidin. I am aware of the fact, that it is very painful to see your horse suffering, but it is better for him when it is over quicker. "
This is why I suggested contacting the VET…..it boggles my mind why a person would come to a random board of people with a whole lot of opinions (mostly differing opinions) on how to treat a horse that they have never seen. There are a lot of things that can go wrong with an abscess!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-01-15 3:46 PM ampratt - 2016-01-15 1:36 PM SC Wrangler - 2016-01-15 1:26 PM heidiinaz - 2016-01-15 9:52 AM If it's a abscess don't give butte. It will make it harder to draw the infection out I have to disagree here. Walking is often what is needed to force the abcess out and to keep it draining and bute may give the necessary relief to get them moving. I had to go do some research and of course you come up with alot of opinions but just wanted to share this. I am not debating which is right or wrong but found this interesting. 1.The Bute will reduce the inflammation and also the ability of the horse to fight the infection. 2.Also by reducing the inflammation in a case where the abscess is trying to break at the top of the coronet, we will slow down the whole process and your horse may be lame for several weeks. " I never like to use any pain killers or anti-inflammatory drugs in this case, as it usually prolongs the suffering of the animal anyway. However, if the threat of foundering exist on account of severe infection of the laminae, that may be another matter. Never the less, I have treated successfully many severely abscessed feet without using Butazolidin. I am aware of the fact, that it is very painful to see your horse suffering, but it is better for him when it is over quicker. "
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-15 1:48 PM NJJ - 2016-01-15 3:46 PM ampratt - 2016-01-15 1:36 PM SC Wrangler - 2016-01-15 1:26 PM heidiinaz - 2016-01-15 9:52 AM If it's a abscess don't give butte. It will make it harder to draw the infection out I have to disagree here. Walking is often what is needed to force the abcess out and to keep it draining and bute may give the necessary relief to get them moving. I had to go do some research and of course you come up with alot of opinions but just wanted to share this. I am not debating which is right or wrong but found this interesting. 1.The Bute will reduce the inflammation and also the ability of the horse to fight the infection. 2.Also by reducing the inflammation in a case where the abscess is trying to break at the top of the coronet, we will slow down the whole process and your horse may be lame for several weeks. " I never like to use any pain killers or anti-inflammatory drugs in this case, as it usually prolongs the suffering of the animal anyway. However, if the threat of foundering exist on account of severe infection of the laminae, that may be another matter. Never the less, I have treated successfully many severely abscessed feet without using Butazolidin. I am aware of the fact, that it is very painful to see your horse suffering, but it is better for him when it is over quicker. "
It is just my experience and what my vet has said to me before when dealing with a abscess not to give butte. And I agree call your vet. How ever I don't understand when people post and asking for help and people then give their opinions and share experiences how many other people will get bent out of shape if they disagree. |
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Location: West Texas | NJJ - 2016-01-15 3:46 PM ampratt - 2016-01-15 1:36 PM SC Wrangler - 2016-01-15 1:26 PM heidiinaz - 2016-01-15 9:52 AM If it's a abscess don't give butte. It will make it harder to draw the infection out I have to disagree here. Walking is often what is needed to force the abcess out and to keep it draining and bute may give the necessary relief to get them moving. I had to go do some research and of course you come up with alot of opinions but just wanted to share this. I am not debating which is right or wrong but found this interesting. 1.The Bute will reduce the inflammation and also the ability of the horse to fight the infection. 2.Also by reducing the inflammation in a case where the abscess is trying to break at the top of the coronet, we will slow down the whole process and your horse may be lame for several weeks. " I never like to use any pain killers or anti-inflammatory drugs in this case, as it usually prolongs the suffering of the animal anyway. However, if the threat of foundering exist on account of severe infection of the laminae, that may be another matter. Never the less, I have treated successfully many severely abscessed feet without using Butazolidin. I am aware of the fact, that it is very painful to see your horse suffering, but it is better for him when it is over quicker. "
Probably about the same as the number of vets that would disagree.... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | heidiinaz - 2016-01-15 4:09 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-15 1:48 PM NJJ - 2016-01-15 3:46 PM ampratt - 2016-01-15 1:36 PM SC Wrangler - 2016-01-15 1:26 PM heidiinaz - 2016-01-15 9:52 AM If it's a abscess don't give butte. It will make it harder to draw the infection out I have to disagree here. Walking is often what is needed to force the abcess out and to keep it draining and bute may give the necessary relief to get them moving. I had to go do some research and of course you come up with alot of opinions but just wanted to share this. I am not debating which is right or wrong but found this interesting. 1.The Bute will reduce the inflammation and also the ability of the horse to fight the infection. 2.Also by reducing the inflammation in a case where the abscess is trying to break at the top of the coronet, we will slow down the whole process and your horse may be lame for several weeks. " I never like to use any pain killers or anti-inflammatory drugs in this case, as it usually prolongs the suffering of the animal anyway. However, if the threat of foundering exist on account of severe infection of the laminae, that may be another matter. Never the less, I have treated successfully many severely abscessed feet without using Butazolidin. I am aware of the fact, that it is very painful to see your horse suffering, but it is better for him when it is over quicker. "
I think the best help that you can get if from your vet that is seeing what is going on, we cant see over the computer what is going on so its all a guessing game for most, so my thoughts when I see a post like this is call your vet so there is no douth in what to do.  |
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| If you have such a problem with me asking for help on a forum about my horses symptoms then don't comment at all. My horse was seen and treated within hours of me finding him like this! So if u are gonna be rude and disrespectful then don't comment. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | lkrose44 - 2016-01-15 8:02 PM If you have such a problem with me asking for help on a forum about my horses symptoms then don't comment at all. My horse was seen and treated within hours of me finding him like this! So if u are gonna be rude and disrespectful then don't comment.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | lkrose44 - 2016-01-15 8:02 PM If you have such a problem with me asking for help on a forum about my horses symptoms then don't comment at all. My horse was seen and treated within hours of me finding him like this! So if u are gonna be rude and disrespectful then don't comment.
I'm sorry if I was rude, I will go back to reread what you said, but I thought that you said it was last week when he started limping? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | lkrose44 - 2016-01-15 8:36 AM Please help! I have a gelding that I noticed was limping last week. I put him on stall rest for a couple of days and he started walking a lot better. Then I came out last night and COULD NOT get him to walk. AT ALL. He is basically standing on his tippy toe. My guess is an abscess but not entirely sure.
Yep I thought this was what you said, that you were guessing it was a abscess. But you didnt say anything about a vet treating it, but just a guess. Thats why some of us said to go to a vet, sorry if I misunderstood what you said, but when it comes to feet I dont like taking a chance of waiting to long for help, thats why I call my Vet if I feel if something is not right. |
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PLEASE HELP...HORSE IS NOT WALKING!