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Location: Mississsippi | I have a daughter of Sun Frost that is out of a full sibling to an NFR horse.
Just wondering what would yall breed her to.
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Location: OH | Cowans are really high on the Judge Cash cross on Sun Frost daughters. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I like Judge Cash or even crossing her back on one of the Cowan's studs... |
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Location: OH | Which daughter do you have----not many ever left the ranch ?????? |
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Location: Mississsippi | Her mother is Vaneagles Chick is a full sister to NFR qualifier Vaneagles Little Dude.
Right now is is breed to Dash Ta Fame for a March filly & just wondering if I should go the same direction. |
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| If I had one (and she was comparable to my sun frost) I'd be really tempted to breed her to asof. |
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Location: Mississsippi | ASOF was one of my choices. My mare is only 14, so hopefully I have a few years left in her.
Also she was a futurity winner as a 5 y.o. |
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Location: Mississsippi | I was even considering partnering with someone to pull an embro off of her on halfs.
Just a though.... |
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Location: OH | I remember when she sold in the sale, I am sure I have the catalog somewhere. |
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Location: OH | Whiteboy - 2016-01-22 12:36 PM If I had one (and she was comparable to my sun frost) I'd be really tempted to breed her to asof.
On paper you would sure think it would work, but Brian Fulton was Tigh's cousin and he never did the cross---for some reason ?????????????????????? |
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| I may be the crazy person today and say something old lined....Something close bred LEO.... Mi petroleo comes to mind |
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Location: OH | Warriors Mom - 2016-01-22 1:41 PM I may be the crazy person today and say something old lined....Something close bred LEO.... Mi petroleo comes to mind
For me, if I was going to breed one of my Sun Frost daughters to an outside stud it would have to be to a name brand stud in order for it to have a large value to it. |
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Location: Mississsippi | I agree... But which one??? |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | I stumbled accross a stallion the other day that would be a great cross.
Osceola something,,,,,,,,,,Warrior maybe.
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| May I ask why you are thinking of not going back to Dash Ta Fame? I thought I read that she is in foal to him now ..... |
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Location: OH | Wynn - 2016-01-22 2:27 PM I agree... But which one???
ASOF would have a huge resale.
I have always wanted to go Ivory James but have been too chicken to do it.
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The Mulberry Canyon Moon sons sure seem to be nice and have good people backing them.
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Location: Mississsippi | I'm thinking of possibly doubling up on her... |
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Location: Cap'n Helga Deadbones | Wynn - 2016-01-22 10:29 AM
I have a daughter of Sun Frost that is out of a full sibling to an NFR horse.
Just wondering what would yall breed her to.
As a LONG time breeder I would tell you it is impossible to suggest a stallion based on one bloodline.
CONFORMATION should be studied CLOSELY before any decision is made. |
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| 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:30 PM I stumbled accross a stallion the other day that would be a great cross.
Osceola something,,,,,,,,,,Warrior maybe.
First Down Warrior by Osceola Warrior is my stallion... Warrior is the only stallion by Osceola Warrior...... (and just so happens to be a 100% money producer from a small crop)
I agree with the comment on breeding to outside for profit.... yet, if i were to bred a daughter of Sun Frost (which I will say, I steer clear from anything not running lines) I would like to see a cross of Sun Frost on an old lined Leo, typey, bred horse.........
Edited by Warriors Mom 2016-01-22 3:57 PM
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Warriors Mom - 2016-01-22 4:51 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:30 PM I stumbled accross a stallion the other day that would be a great cross.
Osceola something,,,,,,,,,,Warrior maybe.
First Down Warrior by Osceola Warrior is my stallion... Warrior is the only stallion by Osceola Warrior...... (and just so happens to be a 100% money producer from a small crop)
I agree with the comment on breeding to outside for profit.... yet, if i were to bred a daughter of Sun Frost (which I will say, I steer clear from anything not running lines ) I would like to see a cross of Sun Frost on an old lined Leo, typey, bred horse.........
Leo would be at least 70. So chances are there really isn't anything up close to breed her to with Leo. Up close to me means no further then grand. And after that it just looks good on paper. JMO |
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Location: Cap'n Helga Deadbones | Warriors Mom - 2016-01-22 3:51 PM
1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:30 PM I stumbled accross a stallion the other day that would be a great cross.
Osceola something,,,,,,,,,,Warrior maybe.
First Down Warrior by Osceola Warrior is my stallion... Warrior is the only stallion by Osceola Warrior...... (and just so happens to be a 100% money producer from a small crop)I agree with the comment on breeding to outside for profit.... yet, if i were to bred a daughter of Sun Frost (which I will say, I steer clear from anything not running lines ) I would like to see a cross of Sun Frost on an old lined Leo, typey, bred horse.........
If she is wanting speed to compete against some of the top speed horses of today she will have to go modern race bred on Sun Frost and not old racing lines. But I have no clue what the rest of the pedigree is on the mare. |
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Location: Cap'n Helga Deadbones | Warriors Mom - 2016-01-22 3:51 PM
1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:30 PM I stumbled accross a stallion the other day that would be a great cross.
Osceola something,,,,,,,,,,Warrior maybe.
First Down Warrior by Osceola Warrior is my stallion... Warrior is the only stallion by Osceola Warrior...... (and just so happens to be a 100% money producer from a small crop)I agree with the comment on breeding to outside for profit.... yet, if i were to bred a daughter of Sun Frost (which I will say, I steer clear from anything not running lines ) I would like to see a cross of Sun Frost on an old lined Leo, typey, bred horse.........
Did he do anything?
How small a crop?
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Location: Kansas | Mighty Broke - 2016-01-22 1:34 PM Wynn - 2016-01-22 2:27 PM I agree... But which one??? ASOF would have a huge resale.
I have always wanted to go Ivory James but have been too chicken to do it.
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The Mulberry Canyon Moon sons sure seem to be nice and have good people backing them.
I agree
And call me a weirdo but if I owned a daughter of sun frost, I would love to cross her on a blue valentine stud. I'm a huge blue valentine fan.
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Location: Cap'n Helga Deadbones | Warriors Mom - 2016-01-22 3:51 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:30 PM I stumbled accross a stallion the other day that would be a great cross.
Osceola something,,,,,,,,,,Warrior maybe.
First Down Warrior by Osceola Warrior is my stallion... Warrior is the only stallion by Osceola Warrior...... (and just so happens to be a 100% money producer from a small crop)
I agree with the comment on breeding to outside for profit.... yet, if i were to bred a daughter of Sun Frost (which I will say, I steer clear from anything not running lines ) I would like to see a cross of Sun Frost on an old lined Leo, typey, bred horse.........
And why is he the only stud by Osceola Warrior?
How many in the crop and how much money won?
Racing or barrels?
If racing what kind of races were they in and how many wins? |
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| emmylou - 2016-01-22 4:14 PM
Warriors Mom - 2016-01-22 3:51 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:30 PM I stumbled accross a stallion the other day that would be a great cross.
Osceola something,,,,,,,,,,Warrior maybe.
First Down Warrior by Osceola Warrior is my stallion... Warrior is the only stallion by Osceola Warrior...... (and just so happens to be a 100% money producer from a small crop)
I agree with the comment on breeding to outside for profit.... yet, if i were to bred a daughter of Sun Frost (which I will say, I steer clear from anything not running lines ) I would like to see a cross of Sun Frost on an old lined Leo, typey, bred horse.........
How many in the crop and how much money won?
Racing or barrels?
If racing what kind of races were they in and how many wins?
You would have to look me up on facebook, I would pm you however for some reason my pms I have sent over the last week have not been going out...they are all still in that pending box... Message me on fb or look at my page, I have a few of his foals races I posted.
You can check out this article regarding (just a draft, certainly not complete)...
https://www.facebook.com/notes/brittany-mcguire/osceola-warrior-the-...
Edited by Warriors Mom 2016-01-22 4:40 PM
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Location: Mississsippi | My mare is out of Vaneagles Chick (AAA) is a full sister to NFR qualifier Vaneagles Little Dude.
Her sire is Chick Check (AAA) & his sire is Easy Jet (AAAT)
And Yes, I would hope to have something that could compete with the horses of today. She is a half sister to Frenchman's Guy, PC Frenchmans Hayday, etc. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Warriors Mom - 2016-01-22 4:29 PM emmylou - 2016-01-22 4:14 PM Warriors Mom - 2016-01-22 3:51 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:30 PM I stumbled accross a stallion the other day that would be a great cross.
Osceola something,,,,,,,,,,Warrior maybe.
First Down Warrior by Osceola Warrior is my stallion... Warrior is the only stallion by Osceola Warrior...... (and just so happens to be a 100% money producer from a small crop)I agree with the comment on breeding to outside for profit.... yet, if i were to bred a daughter of Sun Frost (which I will say, I steer clear from anything not running lines ) I would like to see a cross of Sun Frost on an old lined Leo, typey, bred horse.........
How many in the crop and how much money won?
Racing or barrels?
If racing what kind of races were they in and how many wins? You would have to look me up on facebook, I would pm you however for some reason my pms I have sent over the last week have not been going out...they are all still in that pending box... Message me on fb or look at my page, I have a few of his foals races I posted. You can check out this article regarding (just a draft, certainly not complete )... https://www.facebook.com/notes/brittany-mcguire/osceola-warrior-the-... She has to PM you for the answers to her questions.....Your link seems to be broken....... Edited by NJJ 2016-01-22 5:26 PM
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Location: OH | Biggest myth out there that Sun Frost horses need to be crossed on running bred horses in order to be competitive. |
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Location: Kansas | Thank you sir, I know now why I love when you post
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Location: OH | Thank you, thank you very much. |
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Location: Arkansas | Mighty Broke - 2016-01-22 8:56 PM
Thank you, thank you very much.
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Location: Cap'n Helga Deadbones | Mighty Broke - 2016-01-22 5:43 PM Biggest myth out there that Sun Frost horses need to be crossed on running bred horses in order to be competitive.
I didn't mean to infer Sun Frost had to be on race bred to have speed. Not what I meant at all.
I still don't know what the mare is bred like. |
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Location: Mississsippi | Read the entire post that gives her bloodline on the mare's side..... |
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| Statistics say Sun Frost crossed on Caseys LadyLove or Laughing Boy is lightning in a bottle. Not sure how you'd find that today with any close up lines but you did say you want to double up which may be the only way.
Another option would be the Streakin Boon Dox stallion. The ASOF are lighting it up right now but the Boon Dox John on the bottom is a big time proven cross on the Sun Frost lines. |
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Location: siberia it seems | I hope this is lightning in a bottle, so far she seems special, very cool. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/br+believe |
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Location: siberia it seems | sorry, I don't know how you make the all-breed link viewable by just clicking on it |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | cold weather queen - 2016-01-23 10:26 AM sorry, I don't know how you make the all-breed link viewable by just clicking on it
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/br+believe
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Location: Cap'n Helga Deadbones | Wynn - 2016-01-23 9:13 AM Read the entire post that gives her bloodline on the mare's side.....
 
well I probably would if I were not on this phone. |
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Location: Mississsippi | She does have Laughing Boy on the bottom 4 Generations back. |
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Location: OH | Shawne Bug Leo I think would be a really neat cross also. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | emmylou - 2016-01-22 11:40 AM
Wynn - 2016-01-22 10:29 AM
I have a daughter of Sun Frost that is out of a full sibling to an NFR horse.
Just wondering what would yall breed her to.
As a LONG time breeder I would tell you it is impossible to suggest a stallion based on one bloodline.
CONFORMATION should be studied CLOSELY before any decision is made.
I completely agree with you. Conformation trumps a good pedigree in the final decisions.
To help out I found a pedigree on allbreed that may be the mare in question or a full sister. There are three of them. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pc+sun+chick
There's a lady that lives near me who has gotten some really nice foals o/o her SF daughter by DTF. That is a good cross. |
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| DTF,ASOF, Shawne Bug Leo, Dashing Val or maybe Eddie Stinson |
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| I think you are on the right track with her and Dash Ta Fame! She is a gritty thing just needed a little longer leg! (lol) I had the pleasure of her living here and she is welcome again at ANY time!! I cant wait to see what my step-filly looks like!!! |
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| how lion share of fame
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| Best Advice has a cute little Buckskin filly on his page out of a Sunfrost Daughter. Judge Cash is another great option as he is getting older. |
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Who would you breed a daughter of Sun Frost to???