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| I believe there are pros and cons to each regarding your horses' safety when tying your horse in the trailer or leaving them untied. I'm always very split whether to tie or not. I usually tie my fidgety mare that likes to look under the slants but then I usually leave my gelding untied. I know people who have bleeders are concerned about tying one where they are not able to drop their head while hauling. What's your thoughts, opinions or theories of why or why not you should tie? |
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Location: Kansas | I tie, because I prefer it.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2016-01-22 4:34 PM I tie, because I prefer it.
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Location: Montana | It kind of depends. If it is my trusty mare, I tie her lead around her neck and use a snap tie in the trailer (made for trailers of course). If it is a youngster, I typically leave them untied until they get better at loading and riding in the trailer. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-22 4:55 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2016-01-22 4:34 PM I tie, because I prefer it.
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Location: Desert Land | I have always heard that it's better for them to be able to get their heads down to clean their airways. So I usually don't tie them in. Now if it's a horse that wants to fly back or turn around real quick when you open the divider, then I tie them up to discourage that. |
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| We never tie |
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Location: The Great Northwest | I don't tie so they can lower their head. It really helps them to clear the drainage. Now, if it is a horse who may get into trouble, I will tie. |
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| I feel the opposite of most people. I tie the horses that I trust and I do not tie the horses that tend to be nervous, fidgety, etc. I worry that I will not be able to untie a horse quickly enough if something were to go wrong thus winding up with the horse or myself getting hurt.
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Location: Piedmont, OK | I do not tie |
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| Have been tying mine for about 40 years now. Never had a problem |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | I usually never tie.
I had a freak accident about 5 years ago with a horse being tied in my friends two horse streight load. My friends boyfriend tried to do a good deed and help unload the horses for us... He did not realized they were still tied. my horses' lead rope was tied around his neck, and his halter was tied to a trailer tie with a rusty panic snap. He opened the back door my horse started backing out. Hit the end of his trailer tie then started to panic, legs sliding and ended up under the trailer!!! the panic snap did not come undone, my horse ripped his halter off but the lead rope was still around his neck, as he went backwards the rope tightened like a noose!!! Cut off his air and he collapsed breaking the door and landing 1/2 under the trailer..I can still hear my friend screaming "hurry he's dying." I tried and tried pulling the panic snap,yelling for my pocket knife in my purse. finally after the third try, it came free, I ran to his side and loosened the rope. He gasped for air, eyes glassed over :(. Let his lay there and catch his air and brain... I almost lost my buddy. He ended up recovering with no brain damage.
Lesson learned. Always go over your equipment, I personally never tie anymore, and never trust your friends non-horsie boyfriend.... 
Edited by imturnin3 2016-01-23 8:36 AM
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Location: The Great Northwest | I don't tie generally would depend on the horse. They can get their heads down to let the nasal passages drain if their head isn't tied up so high they can't. |
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Location: Texas | imturnin3 - 2016-01-23 8:29 AM I usually never tie. I had a freak accident about 5 years ago with a horse being tied in my friends two horse streight load. My friends boyfriend tried to do a good deed and help unload the horses for us... He did not realized they were still tied. my horses' lead rope was tied around his neck, and his halter was tied to a trailer tie with a rusty panic snap. He opened the back door my horse started backing out. Hit the end of his trailer tie then started to panic, legs sliding and ended up under the trailer!!! the panic snap did not come undone, my horse ripped his halter off but the lead rope was still around his neck, as he went backwards the rope tightened like a noose!!! Cut off his air and he collapsed breaking the door and landing 1/2 under the trailer..I can still hear my friend screaming "hurry he's dying." I tried and tried pulling the panic snap,yelling for my pocket knife in my purse. finally after the third try, it came free, I ran to his side and loosened the rope. He gasped for air, eyes glassed over : (. Let his lay there and catch his air and brain... I almost lost my buddy. He ended up recovering with no brain damage. Lesson learned. Always go over your equipment, I personally never tie anymore, and never trust your friends non-horsie boyfriend....
Although I totally understand why you wouldn't tie your horses anymore I think this is more of the moral of the story. I always untie the horse before the trailer door opens. Glad your horse made it through that. |
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Location: KS | I also don't tie. |
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| i tie loose with those real cheap ropes that will break |
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| 95% of the time I don't tie. In my own trailer, my own horses, I don't tie. If I am riding with a friend or hauling a friend's horse, I will usually tie just because they are with horses they aren't used to and get too nosey. And my friend's horse is a gelding that doesn't know he's a gelding and is very interested in my girls.
I have heard that if you must tie, you can clip the breakaway ties to the top snap (the one up by the eye) so that if the trailer flips, there should still be enough slack in the tie to not hang the horse. If I have to tie, I tie with that ring instead. It also allows them to get their head down a bit further than if you tie to the bottom chin ring. |
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Location: Sunnyland Florida |
I have never tied horses in the trailer. I like for them to be able to get their heads down, especially when travelling a long distance. I had one I had to tie because he was a trouble-maker and would reach under the dividers and bite the others on the legs, LOL. |
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| I have mangers, they can't get their head down. but the "littler" ones can back up and get their head down, when they aren't tied. for emergency reasons, I tie to zip ties. just a little tug they won't break when they are just being nosey. but in an emergency, they'll break. |
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Location: North Dakota | I have a slant load. I usually tie. I have breakaway panic snaps on the ties and the horses wear breakaway halters. In case we get into a wreck and/or they would fall down, I don't want them "hung".
back door is closed before they are tied, and they are untied before the back door is opened.
This year, I started NOT tying my horse Red. He tends to get raspy breathing when trailered and not tying him helped greatly. He is a good hauler so it wasn't an issue. |
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| I do not tie. The only exception being if they are new to trailering, or I usually tie the horse that is next to my stud to prevent any disturbances. |
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| Never tie. I think that I helps horses to be able to put their head down to drain and to balance better. There has been a lot of times that I stopped at gas stations to fill up and all their heads are down. No ruckus or issues with them either. |
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| I firmly believe in tying broke horses in a trailer ... it lets them know they are restrained and it is your decision on how much play you leave in the rope ...
I train my youngsters before they are trailered ... so they get tied also ..
Here is the same daisy chain knot way to tie a horse using a rail or in the trailer ...
On the rail ..
flip lead over rail .. make your loop and make as many loops as you want .... if you are tying young ones with a long lead rope .. you can tie with a loop or two ... move down 3-4 ft and tie the end.. this gives you a safe distance to untie a panic stricken youngster with one big pull to free them without getting yourself hurt ...
In or outside the trailer ...
double rope and slip it thru the tie ring and start your loopity loop daisy chain to take up slack in a long lead line or pre tie your trailer ropes in this manner ...
I do not like the common trailer ties you buy .. it gives a horse too much freedom and no control should they get spooked when you unhook the trailer tie or if you tie lead around neck which is not too smart to begin with ...
use the lead connected to the horse to tie in a trailer ... the video will show you how easy it is to do and you can easily reach thru a window or slat to untie a horse from outside the trailer ..
Also .. if you have the room to use two trailer ties outside your trailer use the safe tie procedure and daisy chain tie the lead rope tail a loop away from the one your horse is tied to ... just in case a horse should pull back in panic mode ...
The panic clips on trailer ties you purchase are totally worthless .... the tongue of the clip is pressed against the inside of the sliding collar if a horse is pulling back and impossible to slide the collar while horse is pulling back...
You will find the daisy chain method will give a horse some slack from the loosely formed loops ... just enough for them to add to their comfort ...
Go get you a lead rope and use your off arm or chair arm or back as a rail or a trailer tie loop to practice tying the daisy chain ... once you see how easy it is and how quickly you can jerk It free ... you will like this safe way of tying a horse ..
Another suggestion: For years I made my own 15 ft lead ropes with junky materials since the 8-10 store bought ones were like water hoses ... always a foot short of what you wanted to water ... lol ....
I now use all Clinton Anderson 14 ft lead ropes due to a young barrel racer showing up at my barn with one .... very high quality and a thumb on the stainless steel bullsnap ... that is a snap to use . .. (sorry for the pun) ...
They are long enough to use the end for a butt rope when teaching youngsters to lead, string into the trailer tie so you can step back and urge a horse into the trailer, use the safe tie procedure above, even longe' a horse in a short circle .. etc etc .... once you get used to the extra length ... you will throw all of your short leads away ...
Listen to this old woman ... and learn thru her experience and prevent a disaster with your own horses .... she does a very good presentation!!
https://youtu.be/0HHxzWE4sCE
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| streakysox - 2016-01-23 3:23 AM
Have been tying mine for about 40 years now. Never had a problem
Same here - maybe even MORE than 40 years. I used the quick release snaps on bunge (sp?) trailer ties. |
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Location: South Dakota | Me too, except I tie my lead rope to baling twine. I never thought about the zip ties. |
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Location: White Mountains of AZ | I'll usually tie their lead ropes around their neck and use a trailer tie. But I make sure they can still put their head down enough to clear their nose but not enough to get their legs over it. |
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| Stock trailer with multiple horses and if they have to sit for a while we will tie. If we're just going on a short trip and will unload right away we throw them all in untied, usually 2-3 in each stall. The horse trailer with slant loads I do not tie, but everyone that gets hauled in it has been broke to load/unload nicely, or will get taught real quick. |
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| Only have to tie one horse in because she will put her head down by the mangers and has gotten stuck 2 times. She is a big mare and the only one I have ever had to tie in the trailer. |
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| Thanks for yalls feedback! |
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Location: Kansas | My older horses don't get tied in, but my younger horses do get tied in so that they learn that they need to stand still in the trailer. I always close the slant before I tie them in, and always untie them before I open the slant so that there is no pull back accident. Even with my older ones that don't get tied, I make them wait a few seconds before I ASK them to back out so that they do not get in the habit of backing out when THEY want to. |
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| We tie the broke ones. The young ones that have not learned to tie yet we haul loose.
My vet is avidly against hauling loose if not 100% necessary. He says if you have to make a drastic defensive maneuver and the animal's head is down at the time they can suffer sever neck and back injuries, including whiplash, broken neck and strained back. For this reason, I tie.
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| I tie my dun because he will put head under the slant and freak himself out...I tie my sorrel because he will eat other horses legs haha...and I dont have to tie my black colt because he is an angel lol. |
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Location: CTX | Our current trailer has mangers, so most of the time I don't tie. If they would put their head down in front of the manger i would tie.
Our old trailer did not have mangers, so I tied everything. I would load, close slants and trailer and then tie, and before the trailer would be open I would untie so they would not be hung up by accident.
I mosly stay local anyway, my longest trip is 2-3 hour at most, so I don't worry about them getting their heads down...
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| cyount2009 - 2016-01-26 10:46 AM We tie the broke ones. The young ones that have not learned to tie yet we haul loose. My vet is avidly against hauling loose if not 100% necessary. He says if you have to make a drastic defensive maneuver and the animal's head is down at the time they can suffer sever neck and back injuries, including whiplash, broken neck and strained back. For this reason, I tie.
This happened to a friend of mines horse-it was a bad deal. |
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Location: Kansas | I personally do not tie. I guess it is kind of a personal decision whether you want to tie or not to. I used to tie my horses, but I don't feel the need too. If we get in a wreck, horses that are not tied up have a higher survival rate, as there is no rope to try to untangle from them. It also helps to clear their airways, which is only really a concern if traveling quite a distance. With my horses, we do not have a problem with them sticking their heads under the slants. They can do it, but with their hay in there, they are either eating or sleeping, not trying to get under the slants. I think it depends mainly on how your horses handle being in the trailer. |
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Location: Central Washington | We always tie, but leave enough slack so they can put their head down a little. |
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| There's risks with both, pick the one you feel the most comfortable with..... |
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To tie or not to tie in the trailer?