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| Hes 16hh and average build. Hard to keep weight on. Currently feeding Strategy and Amplify with free access to a hay roll at all times.
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| I still haven't figured it out! I have 2 (which crib)... i have been at my whits end with these.... I have bout decided that they are just what they are...I feed them 16lbs of a 14% protein/ 7% fat pellet with all they can eat coastal hay...along with minerals, and have been known to add 4lbs of beet pulp to their grain.
The bad thing is I fit sale yearlings...never in a million years have I searched the internet for anything that would work on horses like the 2 cribbers I have.
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Location: Oklahoma | https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=3958c474-d764-422e-a...
I swear by this. It is great and doesn't make one hot. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I would start supplementing alfalfa. It has always helped me add weight when needed. |
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| I have noticed a huge different when using Forco. I tried everything out there I swear for a hard keeper. He just is a leaner horse and would get more lean for my liking in the summer. This has made a world of difference!!! |
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Location: NE Texas | If the hind gut isn't funtioning correctly, it doesn't matter how much of anything you feed, the horse isn't able to utilize due to their hind gut not functioning properly. I would suggest the EQ Rejuvenate from www.nouvelleresearch.com combined with either the stomach formula or the adapt & calm for those that are cribbers. Once the hind gut is funtioning properly and the contributors (processed grains) are removed from the diet, it's much easier to keep a horse looking good on less food, as they are actually able to assimilate what they consume.
My horse gets a half scoop of oats with a cup of flax seed once a day with a flake or two of alfalfa twice a day depending on the season. He was very sick this time last year and I too was feeding everything under the sun trying to put weight on him and get him healthy. Dr Schell, the creator of the Cur-OST formulas explained to me how the hind gut wasn't functioning properly and was creating an overactive immune system, hence the sickness and the respiratory issues. The hind gut is the home base for the immune response as well, so if one isn't funtioning correctly, you can assume the other isn't either. I will attach pictures of my horse 30 days apart on this program, and then a 6 month picture as well on the whole oats, flax, alfalfa, Cur-OST diet. Take a look at this article about hind gut health and how it affects our horses. https://www.nouvelleresearch.com/index.php/articles/385-leaky-gut-syndrome-health-soundness
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | When was the last time his teeth were floated? And has he been dewormed in the last couple of months? |
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Location: Ohio | I have had great luck using Tribute products. I have a 16.2h gelding and I feed 2lbs/day of Essential K and 4lbs/day of Kalm Ultra. Might be worth looking into. I always put my money into good quality hay. It makes a difference. |
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Location: Central Texas | I have a 16+ h OTTB that has always been a hard keeper until I switched his feed this summer.
I now feed 10-12lbs Chaffehaye, 1lbRenew Gold and Forco split into two feedings. (He has always had access to pasture and round bales of coastal...that part didn't change)
Seriously this is the best he has ever looked and he is now 23yrs old.
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Location: Kentucky | stilldreamin86 - 2016-01-28 2:30 PM I have had great luck using Tribute products. I have a 16.2h gelding and I feed 2lbs/day of Essential K and 4lbs/day of Kalm Ultra. Might be worth looking into. I always put my money into good quality hay. It makes a difference.
I also feed Tribute Kalm & EZ. The Essential K is awesome also.
Start with basics though, check teeth and deworm. Maybe also check for ulcers. |
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| I don't want to steal your thread but I have a question also,,,,,,,,,,,,
I have a 28 year old that is starting to go down hill. I've started to notice this in the past couple of months. So I am open to any and all suggestions. TIA! (teeth were done last year, and he has been wormed also)
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Location: Missouri | Supernel8 - 2016-01-28 2:54 PM I don't want to steal your thread but I have a question also,,,,,,,,,,,,
I have a 28 year old that is starting to go down hill. I've started to notice this in the past couple of months. So I am open to any and all suggestions. TIA! (teeth were done last year, and he has been wormed also)
I started using this on my 30-something mare and can see a big improvement after 2 months: https://www.mannapro.com/products/equine/nutritional-supplements/senior-weight-accelerator
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Location: OH. IO | we also feed tribute.we feed kalm ultra and love it. |
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Location: Texas | Supernel8 - 2016-01-28 2:54 PM I don't want to steal your thread but I have a question also,,,,,,,,,,,,
I have a 28 year old that is starting to go down hill. I've started to notice this in the past couple of months. So I am open to any and all suggestions. TIA! (teeth were done last year, and he has been wormed also)
My 27 yo horse can't eat hay very well, so he gets a scoop of alfalfa cubes, a scoop of beet pulp, and a scoop of high fat pellets, all soaked into a soupy slop (2 x a day). He loves it and he is FAT. |
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Location: Arkansas | Supernel8 - 2016-01-28 2:54 PM
I don't want to steal your thread but I have a question also,,,,,,,,,,,,
I have a 28 year old that is starting to go down hill. I've started to notice this in the past couple of months. So I am open to any and all suggestions. TIA! (teeth were done last year, and he has been wormed also)
Purina Sr Active, beet pulp, Platinum Healthy Weight Oil, and Platinum CJ. My 37 year old gelding looks so good. ( I know I sound like a broken record, and I'm sorry! I just agonize over keeping Dan healthy and happy and this seems to do the job. . . ) |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | How much Strategy are you feeding? I have found that with premix feeds you have to feed the maximum amount they recommend unless you're feeding the absolute best top quality hay available if they're hard keepers. A 3qt scoop holds around 3.5 pounds.
My general go-to on weight is to add alfalfa and rice bran if they'll eat it, Optizyme for digestion. I like Chaffhaye as well.
I feed beet pulp more to stretch my hay than any thing but it does help a little with weight on some horses - I've had a couple that don't do well on it. And they've all gotten hotter on it.
It seems like to me some horses don't thrive as well on pelleted feeds & beet pulp and do a lot better on straight grains and a top hay. |
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| I would get the Renew Gold. Get some good Alfalfa hay. Feed 20 lbs a day of the Alfafa. And while you are trying to get the weight on,2 lbs of the Renew Gold. I would also get Noni Blue Label. You will be surprised at what your horse will look like in 30 days. Forefront Equine has a product called digest that would be good to add |
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Location: Phoenix | I'd add alfalfa.
I feed my horse alfalfa, grass hay and 1 lb Renew Gold (grass hay is for munching after the alfalfa is gone haha) and my horse to been this plump and healthy in a while. But he's also an easy keeper. I can't comment on how it would work for a hard keeper but I've been really pleased. |
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| I have a 16.1 hand OTTB who is (was) a hard keeper. I have switched him to whole oats, alfalfa pellets and he is currently getting rice bran, although I am on the fence about switching to flax seed for his fat. He gets high quality 3rd cutting hay (50/50 grass/alfalfa). He is looking amazing!! I am acutally feeding him less and it is cheaper than what he was being fed (SafeChoice). I will try to post before and after pics.
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Location: NE Texas | RunfastNTurn - 2016-01-29 8:12 AM
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| reese_tx - 2016-01-29 8:39 AM RunfastNTurn - 2016-01-29 8:12 AM Before he looks a little thin to me.
Lol!! Yes! he does...
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| The first 2 pics are when I first got him.. he took a little bit to put on weight. When I switched him to the oats/alfalfa pellets/rice bran.. he really started to improve quickly. And his hair coat is getting SOOO much better...
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| Teeth & Worming up to date. He gets alfalfa pellets with his grain. The Amplify helped a little. Was going to treat him for ulcers next. Thanks yall, I now have some pi work to do! |
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Location: NE Texas | Gotta get the hind gut working first and foremost. |
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