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| We bought an appendix mare out of a bad situation last year and have her bred for a late baby this year. I'm curious about how the appendix registry works. The last thoroughbred on her papers is 4 generations back. Is there ever a point where her great great great grand babies will not be registered with the appendix title? Or does it not matter how far back the thoroughbred is? I'm purely curious, it makes no difference either way. I'm just glad she's happy and healthy with us now.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/little+miss+loni
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Location: 31 lengths farms | You have to get her an ROM to get her regular papers, I started thru the process with trying to get my mares a few years back but the AQHA shows in my area were so small that even though we won barrels we only earned 2 points. I figured the time and money involved wasn't worth it for my situation. |
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| run n rate - 2016-01-29 4:12 PM
You have to get her an ROM to get her regular papers, I started thru the process with trying to get my mares a few years back but the AQHA shows in my area were so small that even though we won barrels we only earned 2 points. I figured the time and money involved wasn't worth it for my situation.
Ahhhh ok. Maybe one of her foals will have a shot. She is 8 and not broke, halter broke as a 6 yr old, never had her feet touched until we got her.... (baaaaaaad situation) I think an ROM may be a touch out of her league! lol Good to know though, thank you!!  |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Yep, it was a little over my horse budget even with a broke one, LOL!!! There are a lot of people on here who have way more experience than I do on getting them their regular papers, I just realized with her size and some of her conformation faults that I felt she needs help with I probably wouldn't be breeding her to a TB stud anyway so her appendix papers didn't hurt me or her any any way. |
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Location: Arkansas | rpreast - 2016-01-29 4:01 PM
We bought an appendix mare out of a bad situation last year and have her bred for a late baby this year. I'm curious about how the appendix registry works. The last thoroughbred on her papers is 4 generations back. Is there ever a point where her great great great grand babies will not be registered with the appendix title? Or does it not matter how far back the thoroughbred is? I'm purely curious, it makes no difference either way. I'm just glad she's happy and healthy with us now.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/little+miss+loni
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| From which TB is the appendix coming from .. the Bang Up TB or one of the others ...
AQHA does not upgrade automatically from appendix to regular registry even tho they control the tracks and arena events and could very easily notify current owner at a transfer the horse can be put in regular registry for xxx dollars ... lazy bunch of IT people ..
You can do the research horse by horse from the line that goes to the TB responsible and use your free Aqha money month to month to track the appendix mares or studs to see if they got a ROM (speed index of 80 in racing or 10 event points) by pulling up their records ... if they have then pay the $50 to up grade your mare ..
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| So I looked into her lineage and her great grand sire "Hemp Meyers" was by the TB named "Hempen". Hemp Meyers received his ROM with a SI of 96. Her paternal grand dam "Flashy Hemp" also received her ROM with a SI of 95. Her sire "Heza Flashy Pie" ALSO received his ROM with a SI of 85. Heza Flashy Pie was by Pie in the Sky, so there another appendix comes in, but since her sire received his ROM I would think that wouldn't matter....
If I understood you correctly, then I should be able to upgrade her to the regular registry because of all this, is that correct? Or did I 100% misunderstand? lol I will be ecstatic if this is actually the case!
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | rpreast - 2016-02-01 11:35 AM So I looked into her lineage and her great grand sire "Hemp Meyers" was by the TB named "Hempen". Hemp Meyers received his ROM with a SI of 96. Her paternal grand dam "Flashy Hemp" also received her ROM with a SI of 95. Her sire "Heza Flashy Pie" ALSO received his ROM with a SI of 85. Heza Flashy Pie was by Pie in the Sky, so there another appendix comes in, but since her sire received his ROM I would think that wouldn't matter.... If I understood you correctly, then I should be able to upgrade her to the regular registry because of all this, is that correct? Or did I 100% misunderstand? lol I will be ecstatic if this is actually the case!
No, that is not correct. She would have had to receiver HER ROM in racing or performance. |
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| total performance - 2016-02-01 11:39 AM
rpreast - 2016-02-01 11:35 AM So I looked into her lineage and her great grand sire "Hemp Meyers" was by the TB named "Hempen". Hemp Meyers received his ROM with a SI of 96. Her paternal grand dam "Flashy Hemp" also received her ROM with a SI of 95. Her sire "Heza Flashy Pie" ALSO received his ROM with a SI of 85. Heza Flashy Pie was by Pie in the Sky, so there another appendix comes in, but since her sire received his ROM I would think that wouldn't matter.... If I understood you correctly, then I should be able to upgrade her to the regular registry because of all this, is that correct? Or did I 100% misunderstand? lol I will be ecstatic if this is actually the case!
No, that is not correct. She would have had to receiver HER ROM in racing or performance.
OK that's what I thought originally. She is not broke so I know for fact she would not have her ROM. Thank you! |
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| Ok so after talking with AQHA, if her sire put in for regular registry with his ROM, then that would make her eligible as well. If not, then she's out of luck since she wont be being turned into a saddle horse! lol |
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Location: Vinton, La. | I did some checking for you as I'm familiar with Flashy Hemp and her family.
I'm not sure who you spoke with at AQHA but they either told you wrong or you misunderstood. Hesa Flashy Pie has his AQHA number-#3754348.
Your mare's appendix is coming from her maternal side. All the way back to Lucks War. X0157283
At this point it would be pretty hopeless to get her a regular number. :(
Just enjoy her and thank you for saving her.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | The only thing you can't do with her and get a registered baby out of her is breed her to a TB or another appendix horse. If you breed to a regular numbered stallion every time, you can register her babies every year. They will be appendix as well. If they earn an ROM and are upgraded, they can stop the cycle for their descendants. To me it's not a big deal to find a numbered stallion for a good appendix mare. |
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Location: Kansas | I don't see anything wrong with appendix registry, just don't breed her to an appendix stud. |
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| I would upgrade her if I could, but I don't like her any less because of the X in her registration number! 
She jut won't have any appendix boyfriends in her future. lol |
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