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Location: TN | I'm looking at a 9 year old mare and I don't know much about running lines so I'd love to get your input! Here's her pedigree http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/aprils+lucky+dash
She was on the track until 3, then bought by a girl who started her on barrels then purchased a few months later by a girl who decided to trail ride her and let her finish growing before working barrels on her. Then the owner had kids and turned her out. She hadn't been rode in about 4 years until my fiancé and I rode her yesterday. She's very green but did absolutely nothing wrong. I'm mostly thinking of getting her as a broodmare but I'll probably ride her for a couple months first to see if she has a shot at making it as a barrel horse herself. What do y'all think? I'll try to attach a pic when i get home. It's too large now.
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  That's White "Man" to You
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| She doesn't have any official starts? http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Results.cfm?type=Horse&refno=8416440®istry=Q |
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I know I couldn't find any either. She has a lip tattoo though so I'm not sure what that's about. Maybe they decided she wasn't going to make the cut prior to running her? |
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| Her dam looks pretty nice from what I can find. |
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| The lip tattoo is required of all horses you plan to race when you bring them to the race track. She was probably worked and could not make the grade, got hurt or trainer had other horses he preferred. You never know unless you were there.
When I buy a horse I select one with the attributes that I am going to use it for. If I am broodmare shopping, they will satisfy my broodmare critique and if a race or barrel horse to run ... then they are young and go into training for whichever I chose them for.
Your mare has just turned 9 years old and the grooves in her joints have setup accordingly to what she has been used for .. so if you take her into barrel training she could easily chip her knees or have a lot of stress with tendons etc that have matured and are setup for the easy life as a broodmare or trail horse.
Her outstanding genes are in her 3rd generation so there are various ways to conform the baby to have more barrel horse characteristics with the stallion you choose. DTF w/FG /FWF / ASOF/ DFP / and so forth .... choose something that have successful barrel genes top and bottom ...
It is your call ...
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Location: TN | Ok thank you both! That is great advice.
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| Well Somethingfabulous is a half brother to Secretariat. |
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Location: TN | galla - 2016-02-01 2:15 PM
Well Somethingfabulous is a half brother to Secretariat.
Pretty cool! I wondered if her big name horses are too far back on her pedigree or if it could still be a good thing for her. |
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Location: TN | I'm going to try to attach a photo of her. She's 15.2 and a little overweight and definitely out of shape.
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Location: TN | Anyone else with thoughts on her looks and bloodlines? |
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| Is she standing in a hole? If not, she is built pretty downhill for my taste but that is just me. Nice pedigree. |
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Location: TN | brlraceaddict - 2016-02-01 6:29 PM Is she standing in a hole? If not, she is built pretty downhill for my taste but that is just me. Nice pedigree.
Good question. I'm not sure. This pic was sent to me. I saw her yesterday and she didn't really look downhill in person. I should have taken another picture though I guess. |
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| I never looked at her pedigree as the link wasn't live, so I am going by what Whiteboy said.
I personally for breeding want a direct daughter of, second best a granddaughter of. I stop there. As when you breed the resulting foals genetics are one generation farther back.
Since this one the good genes are 3 generations back, they will be 4 on the foals, too far for any good.
With the age she is and not having a foal or a performance record, it will at least be 3 years before you find out if the foals will be any good, and worth anything.
With a 3rd generation pedigree I would pass, the horse industry is overwhelmed with mediocre horses, there are many cheap dash ta fame granddaughters available. |
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Location: TN | Ok thanks Cheryl! That was one of my concerns about the big names being too far back. |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | cheryl makofka - 2016-02-01 8:00 PM I never looked at her pedigree as the link wasn't live, so I am going by what Whiteboy said. I personally for breeding want a direct daughter of, second best a granddaughter of. I stop there. As when you breed the resulting foals genetics are one generation farther back. Since this one the good genes are 3 generations back, they will be 4 on the foals, too far for any good. With the age she is and not having a foal or a performance record, it will at least be 3 years before you find out if the foals will be any good, and worth anything. With a 3rd generation pedigree I would pass, the horse industry is overwhelmed with mediocre horses, there are many cheap dash ta fame granddaughters available.
I second this. There are way nicer mares you could buy to use for a broodmare if you really need a broodmare. It's much cheaper to buy a yearling if you want a youngster. I don't think her babies will market well unless by some miracle one of them makes a futurity standout but by the time you breed and the foal turns 4, that is 5 years down the road. I personally wouldn't spend the time or money on her for breeding.
If the price is right and you want to train her for a barrel/riding horse for yourself, it might be worth it, but I agree, she looks really downhill in the photo. Her hocks look extremlely high in the photo. |
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| She does seem to have a higher hock and built down hill, but as long as you like her, that is really all that matters. To be honest- Easy Jet isn't that far back and people seem to like double bred Easy Jet horses... |
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Location: TN | These are all really valid points... my barrel horse is built downhill with higher set hocks and it is a daily struggle to get him to collect up and use his hind end. I don't really want to deal with that struggle in another one whether it is her or a baby she produces. I had thought about breeding her to our cutting stud http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/royal+lena+rock that we have a nice mare out of (good low hocks and super athletic) but I guess it's not worth it to breed this mare if she might pass on poor conformation.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Can't see the pedigree, but nope....based on no performance. |
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Location: TN | Thanks for your input everyone! I've decided to pass on her. i was on the fence but this helped me decide. |
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