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Small Yearling... When to worry
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Call me a hypochondriac, but my coming 2 year-old is smaller than I think she should be.  Her dam is a super lean, 15.2hh mare and her sire is 15.1hh with a standard build, not super bulky but not lean like her dam.  I haven't put the stick on her but I'd say she's only about 13.2hh, if that.  She will be 2 on May 18.  I was super careful with her and her dam's nutrition, though she was involved in a fence-related leg injury--could the stress from that have prevented regular growth and development?  My vet says she is rather small, but she doesn't appear to be stunted, just little.  He was surprised when I told him her age, he thought she was a weanling.  Is it possible that she's just a late bloomer and I'm a worry-wart? 
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I am so glad you asked... mine will be two on May 11th and she is very tiny. The vet teased me saying there must have been a mix-up with her shipment and somehow we ended up with Shetland Pony. NOT FUNNY!  Okay, maybe a little... but still!!!
I measured mine at just under 14hh. The only other 2 y/o that I've had was well over 15hh at this point! 
 
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 Our yearlings have always been pretty small.  Ours didn't really fill out until 3 and 4.  Some just grow later.
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better than being too growthy. Thank your lucky stars that it is not having growth problems. 
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Grow til there 5, spread til there 7 is what I have always been told.  That is just how it went with a couple of mine so I believe it. 
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 they are already two

Also if they are two and still small they are more than likely just going to be small and there is not anything much you can do about it. 


 
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have you had her teeth done yet? I did mine at 18 months and she had a growth spurt from just getting her food digested better.
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She may be just short.

One mare I had crossed with the same stud both over 15 hands gave me 3 horses that never made 14 hands. The genetics just didn't work.

Some people say if it is the first foal, it can be smaller, I don't put much stock into this wives tale.

I have one mare who as a 4 yr old was only 14 hands, now as a 6 yr old she is over 15 hands.

At a 2 yr old you can do the string test to see how she will end up. Every horse I have done this on it has worked
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I guess I don't worry about it. I know that I'm providing good nutrition, but not pushing mine. I want them to grow up slowly instead of super fast. My filly that turned 2 in September is 14 hands at best, but thick & healthy, guessing she'll mature a little under 15 hands.



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If the first foal is supposed to be small......the first foal out of my mare is 15.2 and she was the size of a good sized yearling at 5 months. I did have an issue with epiphysitis with her AND her brother (tho his was as a yearling, causedb y grass, of all things). Did not think she would pass 15 hands but she got the same late growth spurt as her momma.....at 8-9 years old. Both put on 2 inches in height and more muscle at that age.

You can never tell with genetics....with my colt, his mom was 15.2 and daddy was around 14.2. His butt is over 16 hands as a coming 5 year old and if he gets the same late growth spurt he will be HUGH. There has gotta be some height somewhere in his genes that mom and dad didn't express.

As long as your filly is healthy, I wouldn't worry. She will be what she will be.
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rodeoveteran - 2016-02-02 9:34 AM If the first foal is supposed to be small......the first foal out of my mare is 15.2 and she was the size of a good sized yearling at 5 months. I did have an issue with epiphysitis with her AND her brother (tho his was as a yearling, causedb y grass, of all things). Did not think she would pass 15 hands but she got the same late growth spurt as her momma.....at 8-9 years old. Both put on 2 inches in height and more muscle at that age. You can never tell with genetics....with my colt, his mom was 15.2 and daddy was around 14.2. His butt is over 16 hands as a coming 5 year old and if he gets the same late growth spurt he will be HUGH. There has gotta be some height somewhere in his genes that mom and dad didn't express. As long as your filly is healthy, I wouldn't worry. She will be what she will be.

I agree with this. I bred a 15.2 hand stud to the same 14.3 mare 3 times. I ended up with a 15.3 gelding, then a 15.1 gelding and a 15 hand mare.  Bred same stud to a 15.1 hand cutting mare and got a 14.3 gelding. I think a lot depends on who is in the last couple generations as some really sire size even if they are not tall themselves etc.

My show horse is 16.3 and might still grow. His sire was 16.1 and dam was 15.3. Both sire and dam's sire were known to produce size. 
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my 15 hand mare was breed to same stallion who was also 15 hands both built tanky. 6 times, 3 mares all wher 15 hand tanks, dun, brown and bay. there wher 3 geldings all where over 16 hands one was 16.2, there colors where dun, grulla and solid black.
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If they don't have any legs and have big fat obese bodies they will remain short and squatty .... you gotta have the legs when they are born!!
(maybe you named them wrong.. lol)

When raising or buying young horses the first thing I look at is mane and tail. If they are unusually long for the age ... then I know they have either been sick or have been lacking in certain vitamins and minerals and a good feeding program.

2nd thing is pedigree ... if it is a grand mixture of race and cutter/reiner expect the short horses to win on the foals side ... size and speed are the two things which are the easiest things to lose when breeding horses...

3rd... a horse must look athletic for me to even be interested in them regardless of their pedigree ...

New mare just turned 4 ... 15.2HH ...
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i bought a yealing she was 13 hands and at 5 she was a lanky 15.1 always looked smaller, then i bought a thin 2 year old at 14.2 he grew to 16.1. you never know. my 3 year old is 14.1 in front and 15.1 rear and still leggy.
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When raising or buying young horses the first thing I look at is mane and tail. If they are unusually long for the age ... then I know they have either been sick or have been lacking in certain vitamins and minerals and a good feeding program.



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A 2012 gelding I broke as a 2yo (late may foal, so he was a little under 2 years technically) was only 14 hands, now he's 15.1 hands and a big beefy son of a gun. He hit a growth spurt last spring as a 3yo and jumped right up there. He was stunted as a weanling though, so once that nutrition caught up with him there was no stopping him (we were pretty worried for a year though. haha)
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 I didn't stick my mare when I got her as a long yearling, but she was under 14hh. She growth spurted early spring, was super ugly for a while, and was probably 14.2 by summer of her 2 year old year.  She's 6 this year and right at 15.3. She grew all the way into her 5 year old year.   I've had several that grew 2-3" after their 4th birthdays. 
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I don't know ....I give up hope wondering....My 4yr old's dam is 16+ and weighed approx 1250lbs and his sire was 15.2ish weighing about 1375lbs....this lil shrimp as I call him is barley 14H!!!!! and 800lbs!!!! He had the best quality hay and feed from the time he hit the ground....I ask God every day why he want grow :(
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Warriors Mom - 2016-02-04 8:57 AM

I don't know ....I give up hope wondering....My 4yr old's dam is 16+ and weighed approx 1250lbs and his sire was 15.2ish weighing about 1375lbs....this lil shrimp as I call him is barley 14H!!!!! and 800lbs!!!! He had the best quality hay and feed from the time he hit the ground....I ask God every day why he want grow :(

I've got a 2 yr old by Streaking Ta Fame.... Big man himself. She's MAYBE 14hh. On a good day. Standing up hill.
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-02-02 6:36 PM If they don't have any legs and have big fat obese bodies they will remain short and squatty .... you gotta have the legs when they are born!! (maybe you named them wrong.. lol) When raising or buying young horses the first thing I look at is mane and tail. If they are unusually long for the age ... then I know they have either been sick or have been lacking in certain vitamins and minerals and a good feeding program. 2nd thing is pedigree ... if it is a grand mixture of race and cutter/reiner expect the short horses to win on the foals side ... size and speed are the two things which are the easiest things to lose when breeding horses... 3rd... a horse must look athletic for me to even be interested in them regardless of their pedigree ... New mare just turned 4 ... 15.2HH ... RED BULL VODKA ...

Why do you say this?
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Warriors Mom - 2016-02-04 8:57 AM I don't know ....I give up hope wondering....My 4yr old's dam is 16+ and weighed approx 1250lbs and his sire was 15.2ish weighing about 1375lbs....this lil shrimp as I call him is barley 14H!!!!! and 800lbs!!!! He had the best quality hay and feed from the time he hit the ground....I ask God every day why he want grow :(
I've got a 2 yr old by Streaking Ta Fame.... Big man himself. She's MAYBE 14hh. On a good day. Standing up hill.

How big is the mare?  Might have something to do with it - as they say - the dam is important in more ways then one.   
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-02-02 5:36 PM When raising or buying young horses the first thing I look at is mane and tail. If they are unusually long for the age ... then I know they have either been sick or have been lacking in certain vitamins and minerals and a good feeding program.
Will your people be sending a ship to take you back to your planet or are we stuck with you?

Now that's funny!   
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euchee - 2016-02-02 9:41 AM

Grow til there 5, spread til there 7 is what I have always been told.  That is just how it went with a couple of mine so I believe it. 

Exactly
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-02-02 6:36 PM If they don't have any legs and have big fat obese bodies they will remain short and squatty .... you gotta have the legs when they are born!! (maybe you named them wrong.. lol) When raising or buying young horses the first thing I look at is mane and tail. If they are unusually long for the age ... then I know they have either been sick or have been lacking in certain vitamins and minerals and a good feeding program. 2nd thing is pedigree ... if it is a grand mixture of race and cutter/reiner expect the short horses to win on the foals side ... size and speed are the two things which are the easiest things to lose when breeding horses... 3rd... a horse must look athletic for me to even be interested in them regardless of their pedigree ... New mare just turned 4 ... 15.2HH ... RED BULL VODKA ...

Why do you say this?

I am going to answer your post because you asked a sensible question instead of just making noises from the upper balcony ... lol

I was fortunate enough to be raised with/by horsemen that had horses with good pedigrees and were well kept. When you have 30 foals and one gets deathly sick or you drive by a pasture full of starved mares with foals by their sides ... making that visual determination is very easy to make for the rest of your life.
If you have an ill feeling or starved horse the first thing Mother Nature does is to protect the horses body heat by growing hair which includes mane and tail. On a secondary basis biological wise ... if horse is sick and cannot process proteins into body fat/muscling it is re-routed to grow mane and tail and scruffy hair.

On a long term basis these horses are going to be a walking limping lifetime vet bill for someone that bought a $150 horse at a local horse processing sale or got stuck by a horse trader telling them they are slow growers and will end up 16HH tall.

I also have lifetime friends that tell me their short horse has grown 8 inches (2HH) in 1-2 years since they bought him as a 2-3 yo at under 14.0HH with a magical growing spurt. .... I grin as I look over at my friend and see that she is the one that has gotten shorter and fatter which makes it tuffer for her to mount her horse.... which makes her horse appear bigger to her .. lol

If you look at a new born foal .. their hocks are within an inch or so as tall as their dams. Hocks and cannon bones do not grow much in length as they grow into mature horses. .. Look at the forearm which dictates the length of stride and height of a horse. If it is not 1/3 longer than the cannon bone at birth or under 2yo's old ... it ain't gonna grow 8 inches to make that horse 16HH ...

It is like all the downhill horses that are discussed on BHW ... look hard at the pedigree and you will find a conformation hole or breeding mistake in the bloodlines ... the pedigree will be like cutting a Volkswagen and a dump truck in half and welding them together to make one horse.
Anyway you look at it ... it is a very bad conformation defect since a level backlined horse carries 60% of their weight on the front end and now you have 75-80% of the weight shifted to the front end.... this is a normal defect you find when cutters and racing bloodlines are crossed because they have two totally different conformations.

Then there is the owner that fed all kinds of weird well marketed supplements or feeds and created their own disaster. Overdosing certain vitamins and minerals will build up in a horse and create all kinds of stunting, growth, increase/decrease in organ outputs and bone problems since they believe all the crap a professional writer wrote on the ad or the box.

I will stay with my common sense KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) feeding and evaluation programs using whole oats, alfalfa, corn and ADM GroStrong minerals as a strong base of having healthy robust foals and grown shiny healthy horses romping around my pastures.

I enjoy reading the stories people tell on one of the FB for sale sites when it is plain to see that they have bought horses at a sale for cheap cheap due to being stunted or starved etc and try to brush and feed it a little bit to sell as a $600-1500 horse. .. And most of the buyers are going to do the same thing in 1-2 months horse is now worth $2500 because they sat on it 3-4 times .... ... it is rather inventive with some of the stories and histories they tell on these horses ... lol

WHEN TO WORRY ABOUT HAVING A SHORT//SMALL FOAL>>YEARLING??

MY ANSWER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
How you care for the broodmare before she is bred, while infoal and while nursing the baby... AND OF COURSE A GOOD WORMING AND FEEDING PROGRAM FOR ALL OF YOUR HORSES ...


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I have a good friend who swears by the tail thing. I've never seen him be wrong. I guess the tail grows even if the horse doesn't.
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This got me to thinking so I measured mine last night. She is an April baby. 13.2 at the wither and 14h at the hip. So she is a touch down hill right now. Hopefully she will level back out soon. Is that a good size for her age? Edited to add, my filly's dob is 4/9/15.
OP is yours a '14 foal?

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**Cowgirl Up** - 2016-02-02 9:03 AM

Call me a hypochondriac, but my coming 2 year-old is smaller than I think she should be.  Her dam is a super lean, 15.2hh mare and her sire is 15.1hh with a standard build, not super bulky but not lean like her dam.  I haven't put the stick on her but I'd say she's only about 13.2hh, if that.  She will be 2 on May 18.  I was super careful with her and her dam's nutrition, though she was involved in a fence-related leg injury--could the stress from that have prevented regular growth and development?  My vet says she is rather small, but she doesn't appear to be stunted, just little.  He was surprised when I told him her age, he thought she was a weanling.  Is it possible that she's just a late bloomer and I'm a worry-wart? 
Here's her bloodlines

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/runawaywiththemoon
 

Stop washing her with hot water!!
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Warriors Mom - 2016-02-04 8:57 AM I don't know ....I give up hope wondering....My 4yr old's dam is 16+ and weighed approx 1250lbs and his sire was 15.2ish weighing about 1375lbs....this lil shrimp as I call him is barley 14H!!!!! and 800lbs!!!! He had the best quality hay and feed from the time he hit the ground....I ask God every day why he want grow :(
I've got a 2 yr old by Streaking Ta Fame.... Big man himself. She's MAYBE 14hh. On a good day. Standing up hill.

How big is the mare?  Might have something to do with it - as they say - the dam is important in more ways then one.   

Her mother's barn name was "Minnie" for a reason! lol She's a really neat filly and I knew she'd stay on the small side. She string tests to top out around 14.3, and that's just fine with me!
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-02-02 6:36 PM If they don't have any legs and have big fat obese bodies they will remain short and squatty .... you gotta have the legs when they are born!! (maybe you named them wrong.. lol) When raising or buying young horses the first thing I look at is mane and tail. If they are unusually long for the age ... then I know they have either been sick or have been lacking in certain vitamins and minerals and a good feeding program. 2nd thing is pedigree ... if it is a grand mixture of race and cutter/reiner expect the short horses to win on the foals side ... size and speed are the two things which are the easiest things to lose when breeding horses... 3rd... a horse must look athletic for me to even be interested in them regardless of their pedigree ... New mare just turned 4 ... 15.2HH ... RED BULL VODKA ...
Why do you say this?
I am going to answer your post because you asked a sensible question instead of just making noises from the upper balcony ... lol I was fortunate enough to be raised with/by horsemen that had horses with good pedigrees and were well kept. When you have 30 foals and one gets deathly sick or you drive by a pasture full of starved mares with foals by their sides ... making that visual determination is very easy to make for the rest of your life. If you have an ill feeling or starved horse the first thing Mother Nature does is to protect the horses body heat by growing hair which includes mane and tail. On a secondary basis biological wise ... if horse is sick and cannot process proteins into body fat/muscling it is re-routed to grow mane and tail and scruffy hair. On a long term basis these horses are going to be a walking limping lifetime vet bill for someone that bought a $150 horse at a local horse processing sale or got stuck by a horse trader telling them they are slow growers and will end up 16HH tall. I also have lifetime friends that tell me their short horse has grown 8 inches (2HH) in 1-2 years since they bought him as a 2-3 yo at under 14.0HH with a magical growing spurt. .... I grin as I look over at my friend and see that she is the one that has gotten shorter and fatter which makes it tuffer for her to mount her horse.... which makes her horse appear bigger to her .. lol If you look at a new born foal .. their hocks are within an inch or so as tall as their dams. Hocks and cannon bones do not grow much in length as they grow into mature horses. .. Look at the forearm which dictates the length of stride and height of a horse. If it is not 1/3 longer than the cannon bone at birth or under 2yo's old ... it ain't gonna grow 8 inches to make that horse 16HH ... It is like all the downhill horses that are discussed on BHW ... look hard at the pedigree and you will find a conformation hole or breeding mistake in the bloodlines ... the pedigree will be like cutting a Volkswagen and a dump truck in half and welding them together to make one horse. Anyway you look at it ... it is a very bad conformation defect since a level backlined horse carries 60% of their weight on the front end and now you have 75-80% of the weight shifted to the front end.... this is a normal defect you find when cutters and racing bloodlines are crossed because they have two totally different conformations. Then there is the owner that fed all kinds of weird well marketed supplements or feeds and created their own disaster. Overdosing certain vitamins and minerals will build up in a horse and create all kinds of stunting, growth, increase/decrease in organ outputs and bone problems since they believe all the crap a professional writer wrote on the ad or the box. I will stay with my common sense KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) feeding and evaluation programs using whole oats, alfalfa, corn and ADM GroStrong minerals as a strong base of having healthy robust foals and grown shiny healthy horses romping around my pastures. I enjoy reading the stories people tell on one of the FB for sale sites when it is plain to see that they have bought horses at a sale for cheap cheap due to being stunted or starved etc and try to brush and feed it a little bit to sell as a $600-1500 horse. .. And most of the buyers are going to do the same thing in 1-2 months horse is now worth $2500 because they sat on it 3-4 times .... ... it is rather inventive with some of the stories and histories they tell on these horses ... lol WHEN TO WORRY ABOUT HAVING A SHORT//SMALL FOAL>>YEARLING?? MY ANSWER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How you care for the broodmare before she is bred, while infoal and while nursing the baby... AND OF COURSE A GOOD WORMING AND FEEDING PROGRAM FOR ALL OF YOUR HORSES ...

I bought a two year old that measured 13.1 and he grew until he was 7 or 8 and is now 15.2.  That is 9 inches.  So, I guess you dont know anything after all.

To the OP, if you have a good feeding program and they are not stunted, I would not worry one bit about it.  They will be as tall or as short as Mother Nature intended, no matter what you do. I am a big fan of shorter horses. They can do almost anything a bigger horse can do and also do a lot of things better.  

As far as one being stunted, a good feeding program can really make a difference and bring them back.  A horse that is stunted can still grow and be really nice.  Here is a before and after picture of a coming 2 year old and the same horse as a 3 year old.

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BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-02-04 10:02 PM

 No to 98% of all of that. A for effort though, good job.
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Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-02-05 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: Small Yearling... When to worry



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Sockittoemred - 2016-02-05 9:19 AM

This got me to thinking so I measured mine last night. She is an April baby. 13.2 at the wither and 14h at the hip. So she is a touch down hill right now. Hopefully she will level back out soon. Is that a good size for her age? Edited to add, my filly's dob is 4/9/15.
OP is yours a '14 foal?

I bought a mare last year with a SMALL (IMO) filly by her side. You could tell they were neglected. Filly was born late Feb. She is now looking great and 13.1 at withers and 14 at rear. Sire is 15.1 and dam is 15.2.
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2016-02-05 10:51 PM
Subject: RE: Small Yearling... When to worry


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ther are a lot of small horse that win. i am talking about horses that are loss than than 14.2. you know that hot shot and babyflo are less than 15.0 hands also less than 15.0 hands cheri cervis horse.
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Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2016-02-06 1:47 AM
Subject: RE: Small Yearling... When to worry



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Tdove - 2016-02-05 11:19 AM

BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-02-05 12:02 AM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-02-02 6:36 PM If they don't have any legs and have big fat obese bodies they will remain short and squatty .... you gotta have the legs when they are born!! (maybe you named them wrong.. lol) When raising or buying young horses the first thing I look at is mane and tail. If they are unusually long for the age ... then I know they have either been sick or have been lacking in certain vitamins and minerals and a good feeding program. 2nd thing is pedigree ... if it is a grand mixture of race and cutter/reiner expect the short horses to win on the foals side ... size and speed are the two things which are the easiest things to lose when breeding horses... 3rd... a horse must look athletic for me to even be interested in them regardless of their pedigree ... New mare just turned 4 ... 15.2HH ... RED BULL VODKA ...
Why do you say this?
I am going to answer your post because you asked a sensible question instead of just making noises from the upper balcony ... lol I was fortunate enough to be raised with/by horsemen that had horses with good pedigrees and were well kept. When you have 30 foals and one gets deathly sick or you drive by a pasture full of starved mares with foals by their sides ... making that visual determination is very easy to make for the rest of your life. If you have an ill feeling or starved horse the first thing Mother Nature does is to protect the horses body heat by growing hair which includes mane and tail. On a secondary basis biological wise ... if horse is sick and cannot process proteins into body fat/muscling it is re-routed to grow mane and tail and scruffy hair. On a long term basis these horses are going to be a walking limping lifetime vet bill for someone that bought a $150 horse at a local horse processing sale or got stuck by a horse trader telling them they are slow growers and will end up 16HH tall. I also have lifetime friends that tell me their short horse has grown 8 inches (2HH) in 1-2 years since they bought him as a 2-3 yo at under 14.0HH with a magical growing spurt. .... I grin as I look over at my friend and see that she is the one that has gotten shorter and fatter which makes it tuffer for her to mount her horse.... which makes her horse appear bigger to her .. lol If you look at a new born foal .. their hocks are within an inch or so as tall as their dams. Hocks and cannon bones do not grow much in length as they grow into mature horses. .. Look at the forearm which dictates the length of stride and height of a horse. If it is not 1/3 longer than the cannon bone at birth or under 2yo's old ... it ain't gonna grow 8 inches to make that horse 16HH ... It is like all the downhill horses that are discussed on BHW ... look hard at the pedigree and you will find a conformation hole or breeding mistake in the bloodlines ... the pedigree will be like cutting a Volkswagen and a dump truck in half and welding them together to make one horse. Anyway you look at it ... it is a very bad conformation defect since a level backlined horse carries 60% of their weight on the front end and now you have 75-80% of the weight shifted to the front end.... this is a normal defect you find when cutters and racing bloodlines are crossed because they have two totally different conformations. Then there is the owner that fed all kinds of weird well marketed supplements or feeds and created their own disaster. Overdosing certain vitamins and minerals will build up in a horse and create all kinds of stunting, growth, increase/decrease in organ outputs and bone problems since they believe all the crap a professional writer wrote on the ad or the box. I will stay with my common sense KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) feeding and evaluation programs using whole oats, alfalfa, corn and ADM GroStrong minerals as a strong base of having healthy robust foals and grown shiny healthy horses romping around my pastures. I enjoy reading the stories people tell on one of the FB for sale sites when it is plain to see that they have bought horses at a sale for cheap cheap due to being stunted or starved etc and try to brush and feed it a little bit to sell as a $600-1500 horse. .. And most of the buyers are going to do the same thing in 1-2 months horse is now worth $2500 because they sat on it 3-4 times .... ... it is rather inventive with some of the stories and histories they tell on these horses ... lol WHEN TO WORRY ABOUT HAVING A SHORT//SMALL FOAL>>YEARLING?? MY ANSWER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How you care for the broodmare before she is bred, while infoal and while nursing the baby... AND OF COURSE A GOOD WORMING AND FEEDING PROGRAM FOR ALL OF YOUR HORSES ...

I bought a two year old that measured 13.1 and he grew until he was 7 or 8 and is now 15.2.  That is 9 inches.  So, I guess you dont know anything after all.

To the OP, if you have a good feeding program and they are not stunted, I would not worry one bit about it.  They will be as tall or as short as Mother Nature intended, no matter what you do. I am a big fan of shorter horses. They can do almost anything a bigger horse can do and also do a lot of things better.  

As far as one being stunted, a good feeding program can really make a difference and bring them back.  A horse that is stunted can still grow and be really nice.  Here is a before and after picture of a coming 2 year old and the same horse as a 3 year old.

He 's beautiful
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2016-02-06 6:03 AM
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i bought a 3 year old mare that a lot of good poeple passed on because she was barely 14 hands and a tank was bred really well, easy jet, and couple other things you want in a broodmare. she also had a big absess looked like strangles. eight months of good feed she was a fifteen hand tank.
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