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Location: SW North Dakota | We have an 18 year old gelding at home that we raised. He's been to 3 world fairs and 2 pumpkin thumpin's. So careful and responsible. Runs all youth rodeo events- keyhole, barrels, poles, ropes, safest kids' ranch horse and can work a cow with no help from his rider... everything. He is a big guy- like 16h and 1500#. No one is really using him here, but he has more than earned his lifetime of retirement. We all love him. Here is the question. Would you feel guilty having such a gifted kids' horse just sitting around? I would love to be a philanthropist and just give him to a family of little kids who would care for him and let him teach them the ropes, but that can get messy. Bob (the horse) certainly doesn't care if he never gets ridden. He's out with the cows and maybe gets used 3 or 4 times a year. He's fat and happy, I just feel kind of bad that we aren't sharing him. Would you?
Maybe I'm just hormonal or something... hahaha
This video is of our daughter, when she was 5 and Bob was 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6THbkLbbZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv-fDzm4nBw - Elli was 9 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVesv-dWZ_c - Goat tying- no child left behind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml4YtolbNx8 - Elli was 10, I think...
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| Nope, I dont and wont feel bad about the others I put out in the semi retired/retired pasture.
Too many people out there who dont appreciate a good horse and they end up under fed and under utilized. If you have the means to keep him I would. Those great ones deserve to be well cared for forever. |
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Straight Shooter
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Location: SW North Dakota | Yes, we definitely have the means to keep him and I would just die if he was mistreated in any way. I still have his mother- she is 27 this year. I also have 2 other "colts" out of that mare, they are full siblings out of a different stud and have more fire in their shorts, so we are still using them. My daughter is running barrels and poles in the Junior High rodeos and is competative on Bob's half sister. I just see nice families with kids on junky horses and feel like I should share Bob. I have no trouble hoarding him! haha |
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Location: The edge of no where | Not one bit. Sounds like he's earned a great retirement.
Too many times I see old guys get hammered on by people that don't know better. If he was mine, I'd just let him enjoy being a horse.
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I feel you, and have been lucky enough to have family keep using my 'Bob'. He's always stayed at my barn, I don't know that I would feel comfortable letting him 'live' anywhere else. I also always haul him if he goes anywhere.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | He sounds like hes happy and being very well cared for, let him live out the rest of his life with his family. I got where I dont trust much anymore and would worry about his well being. |
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | It's BOB!! 
That big hunk of handsome could come to Florida in a skinny minute. 
I'm no help on your dilemma - I'd probably hang on to him myself. |
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| Only if you could supervise the kid and horse and the horse could live with you would I consider it. I have a couple at my place who will never leave. They have hit "superstar" status and for that they will retire here. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | We have had several lifers that have earned their keep. They will retire happy and in my care. I don't care how much they would be worth if sold. They did their time and owe me nothing. |
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Location: Northwest Florida | I wouldn't feel bad at all. I feel the right thing to do would be to keep him and insure he is safe and loved for the rest of his days. Horses like that deserve it. Parting with one that special always makes me worry about what their future holds. There are too many people out there that are not so nice and once he does get up there in years, injured or too old to be ridden, they may not care for him as you do and may send him to wherever they can get the most of their money back. If you have the space and resources to provide a loving retirement home for him then by all means keep him with your family. |
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Location: N Texas | Nope, don't feel guilty for one second. I have a 28ish year old gelding that is a real been-there-done-that kind of horse. The only times he gets ridden is in a parade or something, when my mom needs a safe mount, or when my nephew decides he wants to ride for about 5 minutes. Other than that, he just sits in the pasture enjoying the retired life. I don't feel bad at all that I'm "hogging" him.
Ones like that are good to have around "just in case". Trust me, you'd regret it every day if you sold him. Since you have the means to do it, let him stay right where he's at. |
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| KEEP HIM!!!! We had the same kind of horse and felt the same way and gave him to some kids thinking that we were doing something great. A year and a half later when we saw him he was skin and bones. We brought him home and tried our best to save him but couldn't. Biggest regret of my life. He was such a good horse to us and I felt like we wronged him. |
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Location: MT | Keep him. You will never regret that. |
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| Keep him. He is loved and you already said you don't care if he is ever ridden again.
Also - Ummmmm where was this kind of goat tie horse when I was learning!!???! LMAO! He's stood so perfect! LOVE it! My little mare from growing up would let us bail off and then she'd high tail it for the other end of the arena! She was our "Bob" and often let us pile 4-5 kids on her, ride into the stock pond, and let us bail off her. She lived to 28 at my parents house and I am pretty sure my Dad cried the hardest when we had to put her down. She has an honored burial site on the hill that overlooks our house.
ETA - my spelling mistakes corrected
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Straight Shooter
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Location: SW North Dakota | OK, then I'm not weird for letting him enjoy the wild life. I am not talking about selling him. There is no amount of money that could convince me to sell him to "just anyone."
We live in the boonies, so it's not likely that someone could come over and leg him up to use him in our care. He can just pin his ears at cows and hang with his momma as far as I'm concerned!!  |
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| Only if I knew the people who were going to give him a home REALLY well. I gave a horse to a family and he is well taken care of and the little girl will only ride him. I sold another oldie but goodie to our FFA teacher and his son and when they were done they called and asked if they could sell her to their nephew and niece. Again, the mare was well taken care of and much loved. It's hard decision to make. Both of these people contacted me, and I never had the horses for sale. It just kinda happened. However, I think the crew I have now will just always be with me, I don't think I would sell them. I think I was really lucky, because I have also had to repossess a couple also. Not going through that again. |
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Location: Southeastern Idaho | Same thing happened to me as to the poster above. The man that used to shoe all our horses moved away. He later contacted me and asked about my middle aged gelding, if I would be willing to let his daughter use him for high school rodeo. I trust this family and know them well, the only reason they were able to take Sparky. I get videos, pictures, and texts. Sparky made the family Christmas card as well.
I wouldn't feel bad keeping your good horse home and safe either. I wouldn't have let my guy go to many people...real short list.
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Straight Shooter
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Location: SW North Dakota | lindseylou2290 - 2016-02-02 1:20 PM Keep him. He is loved and you already said you don't care if he is ever ridden again. Also - Ummmmm where was this kind of goat tie horse when I was learning!!???! LMAO! He's stood so perfect! LOVE it! My little mare from growing up would let us bail off and then she'd high tail it for the other end of the arena! She was our "Bob" and often let us pile 4-5 kids on her, ride into the stock pond, and let us bail off her. She lived to 28 at my parents house and I am pretty sure my Dad cried the hardest when we had to put her down. She has an honored burial site on the hill that overlooks our house. ETA - my spelling mistakes corrected
He will NOT leave, but he will also NOT run by. As soon as he feels his little package get loose, he stops. LOL. No child left behind. Ever. hahaha. |
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| I don't have kids but *I* want Bob!  He's one cool dude. Peace of mind to always know where he's at and how he's doing. Like you said leasing can get hairy. I'd just look out my window and enjoy the eye candy if I were you! |
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| My personal opinion, but I think they "age" quicker if you let them sit. My sister has a mare that was retired earlier than planned (18) but probably could've been lightly used. She is now 20 but seems much older to me.
We have a gelding that is 20 this year. A few years ago we offered him to a family that was connected to the man we purchased him from when he was a 6yo, so that their little girl could learn the ropes. Unfortunately she wasn't ready for him yet but they said as soon as she is ready to jockey a horse of his caliber they would like to have him.
In the meantime we have leased him to a neighbor boy (about 13-14 years old) that has grown and learned a TON on him. We kept the gelding at our house so that we could be in charge of making sure he was getting cared for properly, and that if anything happened no one would be responsible but us. He comes and rides him 2 times a week (one night he takes him to the fairgrounds for 4H practice) and they pick him up on the weekends to take him to shows, and drop him off at night when they get home. It worked out really well for us, and IMO it has kept our gelding "young" and healthy.
It's looking like this year the family with the little girl might be taking him and giving him a new home. It'll be bittersweet for sure. |
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Location: Texas | Heck, I want Bob for myself. I need a babysitter (Grandma keeper). He would never leave our pasture if I were you. Those once in a lifetime horses are too valuable to share even with the best of intentions. Love him the rest of his life because you want to and he deserves it. |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | Like some of the others said... If you have the means, leave him be.
I have a good boy (not one of those once in a life timers..was horrible on the barrels,but is an awesome beginner lesson horse), i have since stopped most of my lessons to go down the road with one of my students to barrel races. I was getting burned out and not able to ride my own. He's just siting in the pasture doing nothing but eating popping....
I have been contplating allowing my friend to use him for her kids since I board and could get him off my feed and pasture bill and save some extra money to purchase property soon. We are good friends have been boarding at te same place for over 10 years I wouldn't do I for anyone else. my Agreement would be I get him back if she doesn't want him any longer. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | SmokinGirlie - 2016-02-02 1:47 PM I feel you, and have been lucky enough to have family keep using my 'Bob'. He's always stayed at my barn, I don't know that I would feel comfortable letting him 'live' anywhere else. I also always haul him if he goes anywhere.
Do you have anyone that would lease him while under your care?
That would be the only way I would share a horse like that. Live with me, and ride him under my supervision. There is a 28 year old in my pasture right now that was a great first horse for my daughter. I have had several opportunities to sell him or loan him out to be a great first horse for another kid, but when the first loan fell through, I decided to just let him die here.
My own very special lifer, when he retired from running at 18, I totally hoarded him and I don't feel guilty. He was like part of my family and selling him or loaning him out wasn't an option. |
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| Keep him and turn him out. Let him enjoy his retirement. I've seen some amazing horses given to the wrong people and it was a very sad ending for the horse. When they've earned their place in the retirement pasture let them enjoy it. What a neat horse!!! |
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Location: North Dakota | Tricky question! I've totally benefitted with my kids having the option of riding someone elses retiree's (at least I think they're pretty good hands) My question is why is he retired? He's not that old....in fact I remember in college my "good" horse got hurt and I used my "retired" barrel horse for a few of the spring rodeo's-he was not quite as competitive but he was tons of fun-you may never know when you need him!
He should be able to adapt to something if necessary.....we all know anything can happen. I would definitely not get rid of him since you have 2 kids that are wanting to go so hard! He might just need to chase a few calves or turn a few steers.... |
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| I had one of those two years ago. My daughter was not old enough to ride and I had a friend that always needed a safe lesson horse. The more the old one's get used the younger they seem to stay. I gave him to her....free and clear. She loves him, he loves the kids and I bet he lives another healthy few years with less arthritis because I did that for him. I wanted to wait until my daughter was old enough...but two years of "sitting" wouldnt have been good for him. I still think I did the right thing even though I am now hunting another kids horse for my daughter, who is now ready to ride. |
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Location: SW North Dakota | LMS - 2016-02-02 2:31 PM Tricky question! I've totally benefitted with my kids having the option of riding someone elses retiree's (at least I think they're pretty good hands) My question is why is he retired? He's not that old....in fact I remember in college my "good" horse got hurt and I used my "retired" barrel horse for a few of the spring rodeo's-he was not quite as competitive but he was tons of fun-you may never know when you need him!
He should be able to adapt to something if necessary.....we all know anything can happen. I would definitely not get rid of him since you have 2 kids that are wanting to go so hard! He might just need to chase a few calves or turn a few steers....
He's retired because he loves the job of baby-sitter, but he knows the barrels aren't going anywhere, so he doesn't really care how fast he gets through them. He WILL bust to cattle, though. Perry took him to a team roping a few years ago and won the round robin heading steers on him. HA.
He walks pretty slow in the pasture, so when there's a 6,000 acre pasture to cover, no one wants to ride him. haha. Last fall, when Giz was hurt, Elli was going to use him, but he was a fat slob and she didn't have time to leg him up. He will run in the 3D or maybe 2D if he's in shape and fed to feel like Superman- otherwise he's a 4 or 5D horse.
He excels at keeping kids safe. He is VERY serious about the responisbility of being a kid's horse! Elli has just decided he's not fast enough to be fun anymore, so she barely rides the old fart, unless they're taking him to use as a diving board at the dam.
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Location: Missouri | How is Bob 19??!! That's crazy!
Here's my opinion: Don't sell him, but when just the right little person needs him, you will feel good about letting him teach someone else.
I'm all about letting them live fat and happy enjoying retirement. But, like someone else said, he's not THAT old. And, let me tell ya, after feeding 786323444556 katrillion tons of mash to my now 34-year-old retiree... it's not so romantic and fuzzy feeling. Oh, how I wish just the right little girl had come into our lives so that she could have been enjoyed more. Instead, she's just been eating for years and years... And, now I'm in the same boat with my 22-year-old...
So, there ya go. I'm sure that's doesn't help. lol!
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Location: North Dakota | Elli needs a heading horse!! If the right situation comes around where someone is in need I'm sure you will do the right thing!
He IS your horse-it is YOUR decision to just look at him! Don't let your conscience (or hormones) work you over!
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Location: Home of the World Famous "Silver Bullet" | No one loves your young un' like you love your young un' . Just keep him, you'll sleep better. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | They're herd animals, and I've always felt that they go through some stress when they're taken away from their family (human and equine). I don't think I could let him go, he sounds like such a great horse, I'd feel obligated to give him as peaceful a retirement as I could. |
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Location: CTX | Nope, too many people out there don't care for their horses the way I do. I am OCD about it anyway, but I've heard too many horror stories.
I retired my mare 2010 at the age of 21, and she now is baby sitting my 10 month old colt.
Would she have been great for a kid to teach. She sure did teach me most of what I know. (I started running barrels on her, only did English before that) I bet she would've been great, but again, I am very OCD on the care of all our animals, so I just didn't take the chance.
So, if you have the means to keep him, I would do jusst that. He deserves it. |
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Location: Arkansas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-02 3:13 PM SmokinGirlie - 2016-02-02 1:47 PM I feel you, and have been lucky enough to have family keep using my 'Bob'. He's always stayed at my barn, I don't know that I would feel comfortable letting him 'live' anywhere else. I also always haul him if he goes anywhere.
Do you have anyone that would lease him while under your care? That would be the only way I would share a horse like that. Live with me, and ride him under my supervision. There is a 28 year old in my pasture right now that was a great first horse for my daughter. I have had several opportunities to sell him or loan him out to be a great first horse for another kid, but when the first loan fell through, I decided to just let him die here.
My own very special lifer, when he retired from running at 18, I totally hoarded him and I don't feel guilty. He was like part of my family and selling him or loaning him out wasn't an option.
I agree--my "lifer" is 23 and turned out at my parent's house where my mom spoils him and he doesn't get worked up seeing me ride other horses and the trailer pulling out without him. I will hop on bareback for a spin around the pasture when I visit. That is him in my avatar pic.
I had a "borderline" lifer as well, she was never advertised for sale, but she now belongs to Three 4 Luck's daughter, and I don't regret it at all. I think it was the best thing for her health-wise, and I know she is getting EXCELLENT care and much more attention than she would be at my house. I had several people tell me after the fact that they wished they knew she was for sale because they would have bought her. I smiled and thought to myself "no, you wouldn't have" LOL
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Location: South Dakota | ND3canAddict - 2016-02-02 12:34 PM We have an 18 year old gelding at home that we raised. He's been to 3 world fairs and 2 pumpkin thumpin's. So careful and responsible. Runs all youth rodeo events- keyhole, barrels, poles, ropes, safest kids' ranch horse and can work a cow with no help from his rider... everything. He is a big guy- like 16h and 1500#. No one is really using him here, but he has more than earned his lifetime of retirement. We all love him. Here is the question. Would you feel guilty having such a gifted kids' horse just sitting around? I would love to be a philanthropist and just give him to a family of little kids who would care for him and let him teach them the ropes, but that can get messy. Bob (the horse) certainly doesn't care if he never gets ridden. He's out with the cows and maybe gets used 3 or 4 times a year. He's fat and happy, I just feel kind of bad that we aren't sharing him. Would you?
Maybe I'm just hormonal or something... hahaha
This video is of our daughter, when she was 5 and Bob was 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6THbkLbbZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv-fDzm4nBw - Elli was 9 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVesv-dWZ_c - Goat tying- no child left behind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml4YtolbNx8 - Elli was 10, I think...
Like you said Bob has earned his retirement and I would not be guilty one bit. I retired my good barrel horse Prince and he was still sound and could still run with the best of them. He earned living out his life as just being a horse. I did not feel guilty one bit. Of course you could always send Bob to my house. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | rodeochick382 - 2016-02-03 10:42 AM Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-02 3:13 PM SmokinGirlie - 2016-02-02 1:47 PM I feel you, and have been lucky enough to have family keep using my 'Bob'. He's always stayed at my barn, I don't know that I would feel comfortable letting him 'live' anywhere else. I also always haul him if he goes anywhere.
Do you have anyone that would lease him while under your care? That would be the only way I would share a horse like that. Live with me, and ride him under my supervision. There is a 28 year old in my pasture right now that was a great first horse for my daughter. I have had several opportunities to sell him or loan him out to be a great first horse for another kid, but when the first loan fell through, I decided to just let him die here.
My own very special lifer, when he retired from running at 18, I totally hoarded him and I don't feel guilty. He was like part of my family and selling him or loaning him out wasn't an option.
I had a "borderline" lifer as well, she was never advertised for sale, but she now belongs to Three 4 Luck's daughter, and I don't regret it at all. I think it was the best thing for her health-wise, and I know she is getting EXCELLENT care and much more attention than she would be at my house. I had several people tell me after the fact that they wished they knew she was for sale because they would have bought her. I smiled and thought to myself "no, you wouldn't have" LOL 
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He was still too much horse for my daughters to ride and was getting bored out in the pasture being retired. We found a therapeutic riding facility near our house that serves kids and veterans. We checked them out to make sure everything was up to our standards as far as his care and use was concerned and we ended up donating him.
We go out to visit him every month and love getting to see him in his therapy classes. He looks happy and healthy and we benefit ourselves getting to see the difference that he makes in the lives of others.
It was hard to see him go at first because he is a part of the family but I'm so glad that we decided to share him. |
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Location: Central Texas | kboltwkreations - 2016-02-02 1:39 PM
Nope, I dont and wont feel bad about the others I put out in the semi retired/retired pasture.
Too many people out there who dont appreciate a good horse and they end up under fed and under utilized. If you have the means to keep him I would. Those great ones deserve to be well cared for forever.
This! My retired barrel horse is just that kind of horse. She was awesome running barrels in her day and just as awesome being a babysitter for riders of all ages/skill set. She earned her retirement. I can afford to just let her be and KNOW without a doubt that she is being well cared for. |
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| I have a horse like that. She is 17 this year I think. Will do anything asked of her. Do You want to do Western Pleasure? Jumping? Dressage? Run Barrels? Goat tie? Trail ride? Then Blossom is your horse. She is a nice one to keep in my back posket. We really dont use her much but she is the first horse I pull out of the pasture for a newbie. We have a 4H kid lease/use her in the summer to show most every year. You could maybe let a kiddo use him but he is still yours kinda thing? |
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Location: SW North Dakota | I retired his mother here, but it was an easier decision, because she was such a stellar horse for me- AND she would have been too much horse yet for just anyone. My kids rode her a few times and called her the "Extreme Gramma" because she was still a firecracker. She also is stringhalted due to a trailer accident after a branding. She wouldn't have been suitable or useful to re-home, so she retired here without a second thought. She is 27 this year and is still fat and healthy.
Bob is usable. He is as fat as a round bale with legs, but not really getting any special care. He's out in a big barbed wire pasture with trees and draws for shelter. If I can find the perfect family and their horses have always looked well-cared for, I'd probably "loan" him to them. If not, he can stay here for eternity! Maybe I'll leg him up for myself and rope off him. He's a good boy and deserves only the best, and a family who loves him like the hunk of solid gold he is!! |
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Location: Oklahoma City OK | I had an older gelding that had been a trooper, just a good solid broke, easy to be around horse. Decided I needed to sell him to facilitate my move to the city and thought I sold him to his forever after home. Much to my chagrin, the person I sold him to sold him to someone else who then offered him for sale as a grade and much younger gelding. I wish I could find him and buy him back - he deserved a good home with someone that respected what he actually was, not someone that thought he was 6 years younger. I kick myself in the butt every day and swear I'll never sell another one that I care for....once you sell them, you have no control over where they go and what happens to them, and it's unreal painful to see a horse you cared for being ill treated or uncared for. If you have the means, keep Bob and give him the respect and home he deserves. |
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Bob, the once in a lifetime horse- what would you do?