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Location: Warsaw,NY | I am looking at Both w/LQ w/slide. can everyone tell me their experiences with these trailers, good and bad. I had a Bison stick years ago, and i loved it. |
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | There are probably pros and cons for each but I love my Bison..i custom ordered one last year a 3 h with 8 ft sw..has the full bathroom and every do dad...ramp..drops both sides ..hay pod..etc the RV company Coach bought Bison and has redone their interiors and upped the quality over Bison of years past..it's called Bison Coach now..says Bison on the nose but Bison Coach on rear door...I'm very happy with mine. No issues. And ordered it through NRS in Decatur and they were fantastic from beginning to delivery and even after... |
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Location: Warsaw,NY | Care to elaborate? or send it to me in private message |
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Location: Warsaw,NY | Can anyone who has owned these trailers please comment on pros/cons of both. I know a lot of trailers will have issues. I can not afford the high end trailers and i do not rodeo and haul a million miles, yet. To buy used has become a challenge as financing is way different than buying new. |
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Location: South Dakota | I haven't owned either of these but I'd be interested in hearing about them. I'm seeing more of them out there. |
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| If you aren't hauling all over god's creation and will take care of it/not abuse it, either brand is fine. Keep in mind some Bison trailers are made with steel frames. They have all aluminum too, but look into it if that's important to you. All Lakota trailers are all aluminum. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Lakota...there are a few trailer dealers up here that wont even take a bison on trade...they arent built very sturdy...very tinny....m |
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Location: Usually on my horse | I have owned a Bison for 10 years I bought it brand new. I love the trailer....never had problems with anything. It has a slide out.....never any problems with that.it has all the bells and whistles. Everything still works perfectly and the outside looks great. I do have to replace the awning this year because of the wind catching it. Other than that....it has been a really good solid trailer for me. If I buy another trailer it will be a Bison. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | They both are the same for quality to me. They both manufature there bottom line to higher grade of trailer. Bison has a Premiere at Dixie Horse & Mule Company at Wicksburg, Alabama that would be anyones dream trailer if they were on the highway. |
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Location: Warsaw,NY | I have been told they r on the same level. i do see the lakota weighs a lot less than the bison. the prices are comparable. I plan on going to dixie horse and mule on my trip down south next week. I just don't want to run into a lot of problems down near road. I currently have a sundowner BP and that thing has taken a beating. Love hearing everyones opinions |
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Location: Right Where I'm Meant To Be :) | all I can say is we have a Lakota bighorn and love it. We had a platinum that we bought new before this one and had tons of issues with it. I think they all can have some issues like anything else. Keep in mind they all make different levels /models of trailers and are not equal comparisons. Hope this helps . |
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Location: Warsaw,NY | was looking at Lakota Charger w/slide, Bison ranger and bison laredo w/slide |
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| there are people on her will say 4 star, eleite/ but not everyone hauls every weekend has that kind on money. go to the bigger show there are all kinds. dont be embarressed to buy what you can afford. if you only go light its okay to buy a lesser trailer. we all cant afford bloomers 4 stars or other equalivant. i bought and exxiss but it was ordered by one of there dealers, extra large stalls 14 foot sw, l shaped couch, walk in closet. i dont go evfery weekend and i go by myself and haul one maybe two horses. great trai;er for me. i live in virginia weather is bad for 4 months out of the year not as many shows as in texas. |
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Location: Warsaw,NY | I def cant afford those higher end new, and financing used is a bit challenging iththe cost of those higher end trailers used is still high. Its been a long time since i bought a trailer. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | if you have to choose between those two
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Having owned both....I can say our Lakota is a higher quality build. The flooring runs from the horse area all the way forward. The LQ is built on that same sturdy floor. Look under a Bison (or a lot of other value priced trailers) and you won't see that. We had the usual issues with the Bison...but we still enjoyed it. I knew what I was getting and it was what I could afford. It was just smaller than I needed once I got married and we had more horses to haul. The Lakota has been a pleasant surprise both in features and quality of construction. Definitely a great buy. We had ours built to our specs and we love it.
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| Don't buy a Bison.......we have a 2014 4 horse with a 10ft short wall. We bought the trailer brand new. The first time we stayed in it we had horrible water leaks from the kitchen and bathroom sinks. It messed up the "wood". Bison paid to have it fixed under the warranty. Also the welds on our saddle rack all broke but one.
We found another leak this past weekend........!
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| between the two- Lakota....
A friend ordered one through P&P- and a different trailer came in. She took it but after really thinking about it they took that one back and with the help of Lakota got the trailer she wanted plus a few extra things.
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | We bought a 3 horse Bison with LQ 12 years ago - new off the lot. We have had no problems with the trailer and it has served us very well. I love all the storage- everything - heat - ac - fridge, etc. work as good as the day we bought it. We have never had a leak. The horses seem to travel well in it. It pulls great. I am a fan and would buy another when/if I need to. |
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Location: Warsaw,NY | Thankx everyone for your input, keep them coming. I am traveling down to alabama tomorrow and will be stopping at dixie horse and mule to look at them all. |
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Location: USA | hezasmashnsixcess - 2016-02-09 5:18 AM Thankx everyone for your input, keep them coming. I am traveling down to alabama tomorrow and will be stopping at dixie horse and mule to look at them all.
Let us know what you think after looking at all of them.. |
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| I'm also trailer shopping and I think of it this way....
When I was truck shopping Ford 6.0's were a dime a dozen all day long. It was hard to find a Duramax with reasonable miles.
I bought a Duramax.
When I go out to horse trailer world, I see used Bisons for all all day long.
Don't really see that many used Lakotas for sale, at least not from what I've seen. |
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Location: USA | Are Lakota trailers all aluminum? |
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Location: south GA | My husband and I are hauling in a 2012 Bison 4 horse with an 8 ft sw and slide we have had issues with a couple leaks. We had a smaller Bison LQ before and had an issue with the axle bracket ripping from the frame. Both came from Dixie Horse and Mule and they helped work with us and make everything right when it came to the issue with the axle. |
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Location: Texas!! | I have both. A '14 Bison with the aluminum frame. It's a 3 horse with a 8 ft sw and the electric awning. Nothing fancy and no upgrades. I love it, but I don't haul every weekend, and when I go its usually within a couple of hours from my house. I can run it with a portable Honda 2000 generator, just have to turn the ac off to run the microwave. I can pull it with my '97 2500 pickup. The Lakota is a '16 with a 11 ft sw and a slideout. 3 horse with a onan generator, electric awning, 8 ft wide with lots of upgrades! It is really nice!! My daughter lives in it, while she is going to college. We have to pull it with one of our dually's. I would recommend either one, and get upgrades if you plan on hauling a lot. |
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Location: USA | bump... anxious to hear what you found out. |
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Location: run2win land | We have a lakota bighorn. 8316. We have hauled many miles already and I love it. It pulls so well and smooth. I could live full time in the living quarters. My hubby checks and maintains it, as you should any trailer. I don't understand people that think a trailer will hold itself together when you are on rough roads, etc. We had a couple small issues that the factory was 100% behind. For the price, I highly recommend. |
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| I have a lakotaand absolutely love it! Looked at bison and several other brands before I made the purchase. My husband looked At the structure and the welds of the bison and flat out told me no! Bison isnt near the quality my Lakota either. I actually compared the two side by side at a dealership and went with the Lakota. Mine is a 2015. |
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Location: Warsaw,NY | Lookin For Diamonds - 2016-02-09 9:54 AM hezasmashnsixcess - 2016-02-09 5:18 AM Thankx everyone for your input, keep them coming. I am traveling down to alabama tomorrow and will be stopping at dixie horse and mule to look at them all. Let us know what you think after looking at all of them..
I went to Dixie horse and mule today, i like the Lakotas way better than the bison. the Bisons seemed cheap in their LQ, and my son didnt like their welds. looked fast and sloppy. the Lakotas looked like a much nicer trailer. |
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| Stopped in at my local trailer dealer yesterday to price out a new Lakota. Disclaimer - he is a Lakota dealer, also deals Kiefer and Trailswest.
We chatted about other brands and he said he's seen more Bisons in the last year that are 2 or 3 years old coming in on trade upside down on their loans. His example was one guy still owed $38k on one and after looking online you could buy nearly the exact model and year for $30k. Could have been poor financing on the guys fault, but still.
An interesting note on Kiefer, the company changed hands again the first of the year, this guy and other dealers he knows have not been able to get ahold of anyone at the new company... |
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Location: Warsaw,NY | OhMax - 2016-02-13 10:23 AM Stopped in at my local trailer dealer yesterday to price out a new Lakota. Disclaimer - he is a Lakota dealer, also deals Kiefer and Trailswest. We chatted about other brands and he said he's seen more Bisons in the last year that are 2 or 3 years old coming in on trade upside down on their loans. His example was one guy still owed $38k on one and after looking online you could buy nearly the exact model and year for $30k. Could have been poor financing on the guys fault, but still. An interesting note on Kiefer, the company changed hands again the first of the year, this guy and other dealers he knows have not been able to get ahold of anyone at the new company...
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| hezasmashnsixcess - 2016-02-13 9:30 AM
OhMax - 2016-02-13 10:23 AM Stopped in at my local trailer dealer yesterday to price out a new Lakota. Disclaimer - he is a Lakota dealer, also deals Kiefer and Trailswest. We chatted about other brands and he said he's seen more Bisons in the last year that are 2 or 3 years old coming in on trade upside down on their loans. His example was one guy still owed $38k on one and after looking online you could buy nearly the exact model and year for $30k. Could have been poor financing on the guys fault, but still. An interesting note on Kiefer, the company changed hands again the first of the year, this guy and other dealers he knows have not been able to get ahold of anyone at the new company...
what did u think of the Lakotas?
Overall I think you get a lot of trailer for the money. I have a friend that has a 4H with either a 13 or 15' short wall and a slide out. She loves, traded I think an older sundowner on it and said it pulls waaaaaay better. Hasn't had any issues with it.
Love that they are all aluminum, I believe this is where Bison cuts some cost off on some models is in a steel frame and wooden floor.
It was 10* out so I did not spend a lot of time crawling around in them, more or less I was on a price investigating mission.
We are going tomorrow night over to a friends house who also has a Lakota, he's owned several different LQ's and at one time worked for a place that worked on LQ's and RV's I think as an electrician, so I'm very interested to pick his brain.
I let the resale market on the trailer sale websites tell me a lot about what people in general think about a trailer. IMO a ton of used trailers for sale under 5 years old is a bad deal.
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Location: Warsaw,NY | OhMax - 2016-02-13 10:49 AM hezasmashnsixcess - 2016-02-13 9:30 AM OhMax - 2016-02-13 10:23 AM Stopped in at my local trailer dealer yesterday to price out a new Lakota. Disclaimer - he is a Lakota dealer, also deals Kiefer and Trailswest. We chatted about other brands and he said he's seen more Bisons in the last year that are 2 or 3 years old coming in on trade upside down on their loans. His example was one guy still owed $38k on one and after looking online you could buy nearly the exact model and year for $30k. Could have been poor financing on the guys fault, but still. An interesting note on Kiefer, the company changed hands again the first of the year, this guy and other dealers he knows have not been able to get ahold of anyone at the new company... what did u think of the Lakotas? Overall I think you get a lot of trailer for the money. I have a friend that has a 4H with either a 13 or 15' short wall and a slide out. She loves, traded I think an older sundowner on it and said it pulls waaaaaay better. Hasn't had any issues with it. Love that they are all aluminum, I believe this is where Bison cuts some cost off on some models is in a steel frame and wooden floor. It was 10* out so I did not spend a lot of time crawling around in them, more or less I was on a price investigating mission. We are going tomorrow night over to a friends house who also has a Lakota, he's owned several different LQ's and at one time worked for a place that worked on LQ's and RV's I think as an electrician, so I'm very interested to pick his brain. I let the resale market on the trailer sale websites tell me a lot about what people in general think about a trailer. IMO a ton of used trailers for sale under 5 years old is a bad deal.
The weather here is warmer, so they stayed after closing for me and took me to every trailer i wanted to see. they closd at 5, i didnt get there til 6, the guy walked the lot with me and cindy the finance lady waited. in comparison, the lakotas are much nicer. their interiors are built at Lakota when the trailer is made, so the LQ isnt added by another company later. so the warranty is all from one place. they utilize space much better and have more strage. they are all aluminum and alot lighter than the bison. every bison i went into just didnt impress me, they seemed so bottom line with their LQ. My son looked at the welds and was not impressed with the sloppiness the bison welds had. Granted he welds and can fix them, but u shouldnt have to. I am not seeing alot of Lakotas on the used market. The lakotas just seemed so much higher end than the Bison and for about the same amy of $$ |
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Location: College Station, TX | I have a 2015 bison 3h with 8 ft LQ. I don't haul every weekend anymore either but so far I've liked it. We did have a problem with the hold backs for the rear doors not lining up properly but bison fixed it with no problem. When we were going to purchase my husband mentioned not liking the look of the welds (welder himself) but with what we paid for it I couldn't get a used trailer for that price so we decided to take the risk. We got a great deal on it, so so far I'm happy we risked it. We got no frills or upgrades, and the biggest thing I wish was different is I wish there were mats on the stud wall, so I'm having to pay to have them installed. We didn't buy it with intentions of it being a long term investment, just to get me through the next 2-3 years until we can afford what I want. This could be the reason there are lots of used ones for sale. It's kind of like a starter home to me... This is my starter trailer lol |
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| hezasmashnsixcess - 2016-02-13 10:05 AM
OhMax - 2016-02-13 10:49 AM hezasmashnsixcess - 2016-02-13 9:30 AM OhMax - 2016-02-13 10:23 AM Stopped in at my local trailer dealer yesterday to price out a new Lakota. Disclaimer - he is a Lakota dealer, also deals Kiefer and Trailswest. We chatted about other brands and he said he's seen more Bisons in the last year that are 2 or 3 years old coming in on trade upside down on their loans. His example was one guy still owed $38k on one and after looking online you could buy nearly the exact model and year for $30k. Could have been poor financing on the guys fault, but still. An interesting note on Kiefer, the company changed hands again the first of the year, this guy and other dealers he knows have not been able to get ahold of anyone at the new company... what did u think of the Lakotas? Overall I think you get a lot of trailer for the money. I have a friend that has a 4H with either a 13 or 15' short wall and a slide out. She loves, traded I think an older sundowner on it and said it pulls waaaaaay better. Hasn't had any issues with it. Love that they are all aluminum, I believe this is where Bison cuts some cost off on some models is in a steel frame and wooden floor. It was 10* out so I did not spend a lot of time crawling around in them, more or less I was on a price investigating mission. We are going tomorrow night over to a friends house who also has a Lakota, he's owned several different LQ's and at one time worked for a place that worked on LQ's and RV's I think as an electrician, so I'm very interested to pick his brain. I let the resale market on the trailer sale websites tell me a lot about what people in general think about a trailer. IMO a ton of used trailers for sale under 5 years old is a bad deal.
Awesome, thanks for the additional details! I'm waiting to hear back on if they can do a narrow manger and what the floor plan looks like with a dinette set instead of a couch with no slides, did you walk through any like that?
I don't want a slide in just a 9' shortwall because you have to slide it out to do anything in the LQ. Plus the weight and cost. A dinette set would be more versatile for us, especially since my job lets me work on the road sometimes, but all the ones on our lot have couches and slides. |
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Location: Warsaw,NY | OhMax - 2016-02-14 7:42 AM hezasmashnsixcess - 2016-02-13 10:05 AM OhMax - 2016-02-13 10:49 AM hezasmashnsixcess - 2016-02-13 9:30 AM OhMax - 2016-02-13 10:23 AM Stopped in at my local trailer dealer yesterday to price out a new Lakota. Disclaimer - he is a Lakota dealer, also deals Kiefer and Trailswest. We chatted about other brands and he said he's seen more Bisons in the last year that are 2 or 3 years old coming in on trade upside down on their loans. His example was one guy still owed $38k on one and after looking online you could buy nearly the exact model and year for $30k. Could have been poor financing on the guys fault, but still. An interesting note on Kiefer, the company changed hands again the first of the year, this guy and other dealers he knows have not been able to get ahold of anyone at the new company... what did u think of the Lakotas? Overall I think you get a lot of trailer for the money. I have a friend that has a 4H with either a 13 or 15' short wall and a slide out. She loves, traded I think an older sundowner on it and said it pulls waaaaaay better. Hasn't had any issues with it. Love that they are all aluminum, I believe this is where Bison cuts some cost off on some models is in a steel frame and wooden floor. It was 10* out so I did not spend a lot of time crawling around in them, more or less I was on a price investigating mission. We are going tomorrow night over to a friends house who also has a Lakota, he's owned several different LQ's and at one time worked for a place that worked on LQ's and RV's I think as an electrician, so I'm very interested to pick his brain. I let the resale market on the trailer sale websites tell me a lot about what people in general think about a trailer. IMO a ton of used trailers for sale under 5 years old is a bad deal. Awesome, thanks for the additional details! I'm waiting to hear back on if they can do a narrow manger and what the floor plan looks like with a dinette set instead of a couch with no slides, did you walk through any like that? I don't want a slide in just a 9' shortwall because you have to slide it out to do anything in the LQ. Plus the weight and cost. A dinette set would be more versatile for us, especially since my job lets me work on the road sometimes, but all the ones on our lot have couches and slides.
i did not walk thru the 9'sw without slide. there was only 1 trailer i walked thru where the slide in was a problem, and if i remeber correclty it was a 11'sw. I am actually getting a 15'sw that has dinette and couch. i so fell in love with this trailer and its set up. i had a Keifer built 7'w with a dinette years ago, that was way too crowded. i dont think the 8'wide is as bad. I looked at a bison without slide with a couch 8'wide, it wasnt bad. I really want the slide for that extra room, soecially for 3 frenchies to play in. disie horse and mule has a 9'sw without slide go to their site and check it out. its a nice trailer i was considering it actually, but really wanted slide out |
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