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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | All responses will be appreciate! |
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Location: In the saddle enjoying the East Texas sky | Love it. Our drive way has a small area that slopes so we pull the trailer up to it so that the nose is slightly higher than the back, hose it out, let it drain and it's clean again. |
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| I love mine! |
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 Money Eating Baggage Owner
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Location: Phoenix | Do you put shavings on this flooring? |
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| How much was it to add it? |
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Location: Texas | LOVE IT!
I do still use shavings because it is very hard, not much cushioning from road vibration. And/Or I use my soft ride or Easyboot boots. But it makes it so easy to keep clean!
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 Bulls Eye
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Location: Oklahoma | WERM stands for We Eliminate Rubber Mats. It is well worth the investment. It's got a non-slip like surface. It is made to be used under shavings though, not just alone. Super easy to power wash out. If there is ever a chip in it, you can order a repair kit for that part of the trailer. I will not ever have a trailer without it now. It seals the floor too, so urine doesn't eat at the aluminum. |
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 It's not my fault I'm perfect
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | How much roughly do they cost?
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Bulls Eye
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Location: Oklahoma | SmokinGirlie - 2016-02-09 10:29 AM
How much roughly do they cost?
Thanks!
I only know what they cost for the manufacturer I work for when installed in a new trailer. I would recommend calling a dealer near you and getting a quote.
Edited by TwistedK 2016-02-09 10:42 AM
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  Friendly horse swapper
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Location: Buffalo, TX | Awesome stuff....I'm a dealer so I regularly take trailers to WERM to get the floor poured. A typical 3H that I sell will be around $1300 and a 4H $1800 when someone orders a trailer or a little more retail... |
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Location: South Dakota | I love our werm floor! |
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 Double Standards Don't Fly
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Location: At the barn | I've had it and polylast.
Polylast It's much better, lots of cushion, NO SHAVINGS!!!!, great traction, and it drains really well so you dont have to worry about it wearing and urine getting under it like with werm.
I just had polylast put on my ramp because the factory rubber was slick. Best money ever spent.
It also has lifetime warranty, for the life of the trailer even if it's sold. And their customer service is hands down AWESOME!! They even came to my house at no charge to install on my ramp. |
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Bulls Eye
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Location: Oklahoma | trotncowpony - 2016-02-09 12:56 PM
I've had it and polylast.
Polylast It's much better, lots of cushion, NO SHAVINGS!!!!, great traction, and it drains really well so you dont have to worry about it wearing and urine getting under it like with werm.
I just had polylast put on my ramp because the factory rubber was slick. Best money ever spent.
It also has lifetime warranty, for the life of the trailer even if it's sold. And their customer service is hands down AWESOME!! They even came to my house at no charge to install on my ramp.
you don't have to worry about urine getting under WERM flooring. It seals the floor. |
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Double Standards Don't Fly
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Location: At the barn | If a horse paws it can wear out and cause it to separate and create " pockets". That's what happened in my elite. And the werm was installed when the trailer was brand new. |
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Bulls Eye
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Location: Oklahoma | trotncowpony - 2016-02-09 1:54 PM
If a horse paws it can wear out and cause it to separate and create " pockets". That's what happened in my elite. And the werm was installed when the trailer was brand new.
That is why it is highly recommended to use shavings on top of the surface. Polylast can do the same thing. They make repair kits for the WERM for instances like that. |
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 Some Kind of Trouble
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| My trailer has mats over it, but I still love it.. it's just a 2 horse so the mats are easy to move by myself and clean and nothing soaks in under them. |
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Location: Kansas (but Great Lakes member since 1978) | Get the Polylast flooring. No shavings needed scouts down on dust. Drains constantly so almost dry all the time. Had it in my trailer and it's a definite MUST have. You'll thank yourself every time you clean out your trailer as its a snap. No need to hose it out constantly either. |
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| goldcard - 2016-02-09 3:14 PM
Get the Polylast flooring. No shavings needed scouts down on dust. Drains constantly so almost dry all the time. Had it in my trailer and it's a definite MUST have. You'll thank yourself every time you clean out your trailer as its a snap. No need to hose it out constantly either.
I 2nd this for sure! I was having to wash mats/whole trailer constantly, now with Polylast it stays so dry I can sweep it out with a broom. No shavings needed, no splatter. |
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Double Standards Don't Fly
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Location: At the barn | TwistedK - 2016-02-09 1:57 PM
trotncowpony - 2016-02-09 1:54 PM
If a horse paws it can wear out and cause it to separate and create " pockets". That's what happened in my elite. And the werm was installed when the trailer was brand new.
That is why it is highly recommended to use shavings on top of the surface. Polylast can do the same thing. They make repair kits for the WERM for instances like that.
My polylast is almost 1.5" thick. Would take a helluva lot of pawing to get thru that!
And I hate using shavings. With two horses having allergies I don't want any dust NEAR them.
Polylast is worth every cent just for the reason you can stop using shavings! |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: Roping pen | I have a lot of questions for both products.
WERM-appears to seal the floor. I have seen several ranch trailers that have it and most have had an area where it was damaged. Once damaged, if not repaired, I would have to believe that corrosion would occur. If taken excellent care of and any damage was repaired immediately, I see this being a good product but question the economics.
Polylast-this product just doesn't make sense to me. Please correct me if I am misunderstanding this product.
To install, the floor must have drainage--so you drill holes in the floor to drain any liquid thru the floor as needed (I have seen over 60 1/2" holes used). Or the floor is designed to have slots or openings in it to do the same as the holes. Ok, besides have a weaker floor due to the holes or the slots, the giant in the room, is what happens to the liquid sitting in the polylast where there is not a hole or slot thru the floor to drain? IF urine sits on aluminum for any length of time, the aluminum turns to powder and soon a corroded hole thru the floor is present. I guess that 90% of the trailer floor would be covered with this product, with 10% of the floor being holes or slots for drainage. Does that 90% hold urine between the polylast particles adjacent to the aluminum floor? IMO, it would and it would promote premature floor failure.
I am curious to see a removed poly last floor on a well used trailer that has been in place for 5 years. I can't help but believe it would be full of corrosion/pits/holes. Hopefully I am wrong, but any of the dealers I have visited with, just shrugged their shoulders and say, it is better than mats.....
For me, I hate mats as much as much as anyone. But the economics and the above issues, leave me wondering. Thanks for your time.
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| Spin Doctor - 2016-02-09 6:43 PM
I have a lot of questions for both products.
WERM-appears to seal the floor. I have seen several ranch trailers that have it and most have had an area where it was damaged. Once damaged, if not repaired, I would have to believe that corrosion would occur. If taken excellent care of and any damage was repaired immediately, I see this being a good product but question the economics.
Polylast-this product just doesn't make sense to me. Please correct me if I am misunderstanding this product.
To install, the floor must have drainage--so you drill holes in the floor to drain any liquid thru the floor as needed (I have seen over 60 1/2" holes used). Or the floor is designed to have slots or openings in it to do the same as the holes. Ok, besides have a weaker floor due to the holes or the slots, the giant in the room, is what happens to the liquid sitting in the polylast where there is not a hole or slot thru the floor to drain? IF urine sits on aluminum for any length of time, the aluminum turns to powder and soon a corroded hole thru the floor is present. I guess that 90% of the trailer floor would be covered with this product, with 10% of the floor being holes or slots for drainage. Does that 90% hold urine between the polylast particles adjacent to the aluminum floor? IMO, it would and it would promote premature floor failure.
I am curious to see a removed poly last floor on a well used trailer that has been in place for 5 years. I can't help but believe it would be full of corrosion/pits/holes. Hopefully I am wrong, but any of the dealers I have visited with, just shrugged their shoulders and say, it is better than mats.....
For me, I hate mats as much as much as anyone. But the economics and the above issues, leave me wondering. Thanks for your time.
I had Polylast installed last year on my trailer. They put a thick sealant over the entire floor over the aluminum, so that the urine is supposed to never actually touch the aluminum. They did say to spray the floor out just as you normally would, to keep it flushed out and clean. |
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Double Standards Don't Fly
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Location: At the barn | There is an epoxy applied to the aluminum before the polylast is poured. Mine has very few holes drilled in it. So that's not an issue imo.
I had a large portion of mine cut up and replaced due to the fact it was discolored and damaged from someone welding inside the trailer. This floor was several years old (the polylast) and the aluminum underneath looked great.
You are supposed to spray thoroughly after each use as well.
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Scooters Savior
Location: "Si Fi" Ville | Thank you all for sharing your experiences about these products!
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boon
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| I would recommend Polylast over Werm flooring.
Polylast is a great product!
The holes that are drilled are staggered ever 14 inches and a Bic stick pen can't even fit through them. Then a primer is laid down before installing the rubber. This primer seals off the floor and only allows moisture to flow out the weep holes. Then the rubber is laid 3/4" thick, making the trailer floor stronger. It absorbs 50% to 60% more shock and vibration than any other floor. You never have to buy shavings and it is super easy to clean! We travel all year, we sometimes leave the horses in the trailer over making them stand on the concrete when at rodeos! There are many colors to choose from and many dealers out there! GREAT GREAT product! |
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Werm flooring, solid, good bad ugly?