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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Wednesday, 17 February 2016 Monumental Audacity — Obama Grabs Huge Western Lands by Executive Order Written by William F. Jasper
In a move that has environmental militants exulting and western farmers, ranchers, and property owners fuming, President Obama has locked up 1.8 million acres by executive fiat, with the stroke of a pen. Millions more acres are planned to follow, part of the Obama administration’s boast to use “audacious executive actions” — read unconstitutional usurpations — to advance his radical “transformative” agenda during his last months in office. While in California on a fundraising expedition, President Obama took time on February 12 to sign an executive order proclaiming three new national monuments, imposing the strictest of federal restrictions on 1.8 million acres of the Golden State. The three new illegally created monuments are Mojave Trails National Monument (1.6 million acres), the Sand to Snow National Monument (154,000 acres), and the Castle Mountains National Monument (21,000 acres).
"In addition to permanently protecting incredible natural resources, wildlife habitat and unique historic and cultural sites, and providing recreational opportunities for a burgeoning region, the monuments will support climate resiliency in the region," the White House said in a statement. However, the designation as monuments means that these newly "protected" areas will be off-limits to mining and mineral exploration, oil and gas drilling, grazing, timber harvest — and even to many of the current recreational uses such as camping, hiking, hunting, fishing, horseback riding, and off-road vehicle usage that the public previously has enjoyed. But that’s OK, because it’s all in the greater interest, allegedly, of “protecting” the environment and combatting global warming, according to the president. As of this writing, the administration’s WhiteHouse.gov website opens with a beautiful landscape photo of sand dunes and rocky crags, with this greeting emblazoned on the desert sky: “Find Your Park — America's Newest National Monuments — President Obama designated three new national monuments in the California desert. He has now protected more land and water than any president in history.” Protected? Critics say he has seized or stolen the areas in question. This is but the latest salvo in President Obama’s planned lockup of hundreds of millions of acres, which we first exposed in The New American six years ago. In a 2010 article, The New American's Joe Wolverton reported on a secret 21-page Obama memo revealed by South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint, which identified 14 pieces of land that “might be good candidates” for unilateral executive land grabs utilizing the Antiquities Act. In the past two years, Obama has been especially aggressive in using executive orders to implement these planned lockups. “We’ll Do Audacious Executive Action” On January 13, 2016, Obama’s chief of staff, Denis McDonough, bluntly forecast the “audacious” actions to come. Speaking to reporters, McDonough announced: “We’ll do audacious executive action over the course of the rest of the year. I’m confident of that.... We do want to make sure that the executive actions we undertake are not left hanging out there, subject to Congress undoing them.” President Obama has repeatedly stated his intention to legislate by executive order from the Oval Office, if Congress doesn’t rubber-stamp his every whim as law. And he has proceeded to make good on that threat, issuing unconstitutional orders on illegal alien amnesty, temporary worker visas, gun control, draconian environmental regulations, and much more. Designating national monuments is a very important component of his plan for “audacious” executive action. “In his seven years in office, Obama has established 22 national monuments and expanded others to set aside more than 265 million acres of land and water,” noted the UPI news service on February 13. And he’s not through yet. Among the additional targets in the federal crosshairs is the proposed mammoth Owyhee Canyonlands National Monument in eastern Oregon, encompassing much of the land where the recent conflict erupted that culminated in the shooting death of Arizona rancher LaVoy Finicum by federal and state law enforcement on January 26 and the arrest of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his sons Ammon and Ryan. The Owyhee Canyonlands proposal would lock up 2.5 million acres, an enormous chunk of Oregon the size of Yellowstone National Park, and would effectively kill cattle ranching in the area, the only viable economic activity in the region since the federal government killed all the timber/wood products industries by closing down the national forests, using various specious environmental concerns. The gluttonous gobbling up of millions more acres and the hobbling of all means of livelihood for the people who live and work on or near the public lands is a guarantee of escalating conflict. As we have noted in our recent article “The Federal Bootprint,” the federal agencies managing the national monument lands (National Park Service, BLM, Forest Service) are already grossly mismanaging the vast areas they currently hold and are $16 billion-21 billion behind in critical maintenance. With this record — along with their other atrocious mismanagement records — they have no business adding still more real estate to their portfolio, even if they had constitutional authority to do so — which they don’t. Article 1, Section 1, Sentence 1 of the U.S. Constitution states: “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.” That’s crystal clear: All legislative (lawmaking) powers are delegated to Congress, not the president or any federal agency or bureaucrat. Equally important is the “herein granted” clause, which refers specifically to the powers enumerated in Article 1, Section 8. So, even though “all legislative powers” have been bestowed on Congress, those legislative powers may be exercised in only those areas permitted by the Constitution. Presidential usurpation of powers through executive orders has been proceeding for decades, virtually unchallenged, with both Democrat and Republican presidents rampantly abusing the device, always concentrating more and more power in the executive, pushing us ever closer to outright dictatorship. We have mentioned the enumeration of legislative powers in Article 1, Section 8 of our U.S. Constitution. A crucial feature of this section is the limitation on the federal government’s ownership of land. According to the Constitution, our law of the land, “The Congress shall have Power … To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings.” As The New American explained in an earlier article, this means: The federal government was allowed to have a 10-mile square (100 square miles) for a seat of government. Property for “Forts, Magazines, Arsenals,” etc., for national defense purposes, could be purchased from the states if the state legislatures consented. That’s it. Under Article IV, the federal government is allowed to acquire new territory, which is to be “disposed” of by turning it over to the new state government when the territory is admitted into statehood. Newly created states are to be admitted on an “equal footing” with the original 13 states, meaning with full sovereignty over their lands, not with a distant federal landlord controlling 30 percent, 50 percent, or 90 percent of their land and resources. The Obama administration and its “green” allies are pushing audaciously and relentlessly now because they are well aware of the mounting anger and resistance to tyrannical federal controls. This is most acutely felt — and emphatically expressed — in the Western states, where the federal bootprint is largest and heaviest, and where efforts are maturing to wrest the “public lands” from federal control and transfer them to the states, where, constitutionally, control belongs. It is time for the American people to support efforts by legislators and citizens in the Western states to claim their rightful “equal footing” as sovereign states — the same as the rest of the states — not colonies to be ruled by Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, or any other federal politician or bureaucrat. It is also time for the American people to insist that their representatives in Congress stand up to the president, take back “all legislative powers herein granted,” limit executive orders to their original executive branch “housekeeping” functions, void the vast majority of previous orders, and stop this audacious, mad rush toward tyranny. | |
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   Location: Roping pen | As per the presidential proclamation for all above:
"All Federal lands and interests in lands within the boundaries described on the accompanying map are hereby appropriated and withdrawn from all forms of entry, location, selection, sale, or other disposition under the public land laws, from location, entry, and patent under the mining laws, and from disposition under all laws relating to mineral and geothermal leasing.
The establishment of the monument is subject to valid existing rights. If the Federal Government acquires any lands or interests in lands not owned or controlled by the Federal Government within the boundaries described on the accompanying map, such lands and interests in lands shall be reserved as a part of the monument, and objects identified above that are situated upon those lands and interests in lands shall be part of the monument, upon acquisition of ownership or control by the Federal Government."
This is from https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/02/12/presidential-...
My interpretation is it prohibits leasing/sale of natural resources...I assume all part of his anti-mining approaches.....
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | A lot of y'all probably already know about the WOTUS issues. I just found out a few days ago that when Obarf did the executive order to pre-empt local control and property rights to "clean up" the Chesapeake Bay, it contained language stating the plan adopted for this will be replicated in every watershed eventually. Every square inch of land is in a watershed. Which means the federal govt rubber stamping rules for how land is used, what practices are allowed within those uses, where people build and live, issuing permits for activities, etc. You see where all this is going? | |
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      Location: Arkansas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-02-19 8:12 PM
A lot of y'all probably already know about the WOTUS issues. I just found out a few days ago that when Obarf did the executive order to pre-empt local control and property rights to "clean up" the Chesapeake Bay, it contained language stating the plan adopted for this will be replicated in every watershed eventually. Every square inch of land is in a watershed. Which means the federal govt rubber stamping rules for how land is used, what practices are allowed within those uses, where people build and live, issuing permits for activities, etc. You see where all this is going?
It (we) is headed to he!! in a handbasket. . . . .
Edited by Chandler's Mom 2016-02-19 8:30 PM
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Whistle blower. It's long. Grab a cup of coffee and listen. Please if you don't understand what's going on and want to make the effort to know, this will help you understand.
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       Location: Florida | Great! More natural land to help save our planet from our distructive habits. Trees produce oxygen, something we should all be more appreciative of.
BTW, there is nothing unconstitutional about turning federal land into a national preserve. | |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Vickie - 2016-02-20 10:47 AM
Great! More natural land to help save our planet from our distructive habits. Trees produce oxygen, something we should all be more appreciative of.
BTW, there is nothing unconstitutional about turning federal land into a national preserve.
Once again you refuse to listen to people trying to tell you what's going on. The land will be raped for it's minerals. End story. | |
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       Location: Florida | OregonBR - 2016-02-20 1:57 PM Vickie - 2016-02-20 10:47 AM Great! More natural land to help save our planet from our distructive habits. Trees produce oxygen, something we should all be more appreciative of.
BTW, there is nothing unconstitutional about turning federal land into a national preserve. Once again you refuse to listen to people trying to tell you what's going on. The land will be raped for it's minerals. End story.
Actually, the point is to keep that from happening. | |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Vickie - 2016-02-20 11:32 AM
OregonBR - 2016-02-20 1:57 PM Vickie - 2016-02-20 10:47 AM Great! More natural land to help save our planet from our distructive habits. Trees produce oxygen, something we should all be more appreciative of.
BTW, there is nothing unconstitutional about turning federal land into a national preserve. Once again you refuse to listen to people trying to tell you what's going on. The land will be raped for it's minerals. End story.
Actually, the point is to keep that from happening.
The federal government isn't taking this land to protect it. It's taking the land to rape it for the minerals. Don't be so gullible. | |
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| And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah.
While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much? | |
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| Vickie - 2016-02-20 1:32 PM
OregonBR - 2016-02-20 1:57 PM Vickie - 2016-02-20 10:47 AM Great! More natural land to help save our planet from our distructive habits. Trees produce oxygen, something we should all be more appreciative of.
BTW, there is nothing unconstitutional about turning federal land into a national preserve. Once again you refuse to listen to people trying to tell you what's going on. The land will be raped for it's minerals. End story.
Actually, the point is to keep that from happening.
Come to E TX. We have tree farms. Many people here plant trees as a retirement investment. | |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | streakysox - 2016-02-20 2:12 PM
And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah.
While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much?
That would be the H2A guest worker program. It sucks. The lawyers make bank with it tho. | |
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| Vickie - 2016-02-20 12:47 PM
Great! More natural land to help save our planet from our distructive habits. Trees produce oxygen, something we should all be more appreciative of.
BTW, there is nothing unconstitutional about turning federal land into a national preserve.
Good luck with that theory all three areas are in the Mojave Desert. Trees don't grow there. | |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Vickie - 2016-02-20 1:32 PM OregonBR - 2016-02-20 1:57 PM Vickie - 2016-02-20 10:47 AM Great! More natural land to help save our planet from our distructive habits. Trees produce oxygen, something we should all be more appreciative of.
BTW, there is nothing unconstitutional about turning federal land into a national preserve. Once again you refuse to listen to people trying to tell you what's going on. The land will be raped for it's minerals. End story. Actually, the point is to keep that from happening.
Seriously? Have you read anything about what is really going on? | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | I see Vickie needs a refresher course in environmental science.
Perhaps the words of the immortal George Carlin will be helpful:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c | |
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | Vickie - 2016-02-20 2:32 PM OregonBR - 2016-02-20 1:57 PM Vickie - 2016-02-20 10:47 AM Great! More natural land to help save our planet from our distructive habits. Trees produce oxygen, something we should all be more appreciative of.
BTW, there is nothing unconstitutional about turning federal land into a national preserve. Once again you refuse to listen to people trying to tell you what's going on. The land will be raped for it's minerals. End story. Actually, the point is to keep that from happening.
You are so far to the left But frankly I think you have your head buried in the Florida sand. You think the government is getting this land and water rights to help citizens? Without water you are F'd. Pure and simple. Never mind the land part. | |
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             Location: North Texas | 3canstorun - 2016-02-20 6:05 PM
Vickie - 2016-02-20 2:32 PM OregonBR - 2016-02-20 1:57 PM Vickie - 2016-02-20 10:47 AM Great! More natural land to help save our planet from our distructive habits. Trees produce oxygen, something we should all be more appreciative of.
BTW, there is nothing unconstitutional about turning federal land into a national preserve. Once again you refuse to listen to people trying to tell you what's going on. The land will be raped for it's minerals. End story. Actually, the point is to keep that from happening.
You are so far to the left But frankly I think you have your head buried in the Florida sand. You think the government is getting this land and water rights to help citizens? Without water you are F'd. Pure and simple. Never mind the land part.
American History is replete with many events i.e. armed conflicts in regards to water rights. | |
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| streakysox - 2016-02-20 2:12 PM
And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah.
While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much?
I think Sneaky Snot's outrage should be looked at a little closer. Apparently she believes that bathrooms, refrigerated and cooked foods, and minimum wages is out of control government regulation for people who slave all day in the hot sun and in fields full of vermin and insects, etc. so the sweet potato lady can get her crop harvested, take it to market, make money, and provide us with candied sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top for our Thanksgiving dinners celebrating our bounty of food.
Did sweet potato lady tell you that white Americans refuse to work in those conditions, so if she is getting labor for minimum wage, she is one lucky producer. And since we are getting our food at the price we pay in our grocery stores, we should consider ourselves lucky that we have safe, tasty eats due to migrant workers who settle for less to harvest and federal quality control regulations designed to keep us from getting infections and disease.
But I guess if pooping in a ditch and cooking over a campfire is good enough for Oregon Militia "Patriots", it should be good enough for people working for a living so we can eat. | |
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      Location: sunny california | FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-21 7:21 AM streakysox - 2016-02-20 2:12 PM And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah. While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much? I think Sneaky Snot's outrage should be looked at a little closer. Apparently she believes that bathrooms, refrigerated and cooked foods, and minimum wages is out of control government regulation for people who slave all day in the hot sun and in fields full of vermin and insects, etc. so the sweet potato lady can get her crop harvested, take it to market, make money, and provide us with candied sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top for our Thanksgiving dinners celebrating our bounty of food. Did sweet potato lady tell you that white Americans refuse to work in those conditions, so if she is getting labor for minimum wage, she is one lucky producer. And since we are getting our food at the price we pay in our grocery stores, we should consider ourselves lucky that we have safe, tasty eats due to migrant workers who settle for less to harvest and federal quality control regulations designed to keep us from getting infections and disease. But I guess if pooping in a ditch and cooking over a campfire is good enough for Oregon Militia "Patriots", it should be good enough for people working for a living so we can eat.
I don't normally agree with finny, but I have to here. yep i said it LOL | |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | kwanatha - 2016-02-21 9:42 AM FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-21 7:21 AM streakysox - 2016-02-20 2:12 PM And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah. While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much? I think Sneaky Snot's outrage should be looked at a little closer. Apparently she believes that bathrooms, refrigerated and cooked foods, and minimum wages is out of control government regulation for people who slave all day in the hot sun and in fields full of vermin and insects, etc. so the sweet potato lady can get her crop harvested, take it to market, make money, and provide us with candied sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top for our Thanksgiving dinners celebrating our bounty of food. Did sweet potato lady tell you that white Americans refuse to work in those conditions, so if she is getting labor for minimum wage, she is one lucky producer. And since we are getting our food at the price we pay in our grocery stores, we should consider ourselves lucky that we have safe, tasty eats due to migrant workers who settle for less to harvest and federal quality control regulations designed to keep us from getting infections and disease. But I guess if pooping in a ditch and cooking over a campfire is good enough for Oregon Militia "Patriots", it should be good enough for people working for a living so we can eat. I don't normally agree with finny, but I have to here. yep i said it LOL
The point there was they have more rights than American citizens. | |
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      Location: sunny california | i just think that we swould have a minimum standard how human beings are treated. I know around these parts the farmers have to provide shade for breaks. well they should: it is stinking hot. my problem is with employers that could drive by in their ac car and not willingly provide shade for their workers in their fields. I sickens me that they had to be forced to do it! | |
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streakysox - 2016-02-20 2:12 PM
And if you vote for Hillary or Bernie this will continue. Obviously, some horse people did not grow up on a farm/ranch. Ranchers have used this land for grazing for 100 years or more. It already is a game preserve to some extent. Obama wanted to retrain cattle guards for other positions because they were no longer needed. Oh, yeah.
While waiting in line for 5+ hours to pay for exhibitions at the LG Pro Classic, I listened to a lady who grows sweet potatoes tell us that she has to provide housing , kitchen facilities for the migrant workers. She also had to provide porta potties out in the field- one for every so many workers. These workers also have to be paid $10.35 an hour. Government control at its best. Ever wonder why your food costs so much?
I think Sneaky Snot's outrage should be looked at a little closer. Apparently she believes that bathrooms, refrigerated and cooked foods, and minimum wages is out of control government regulation for people who slave all day in the hot sun and in fields full of vermin and insects, etc. so the sweet potato lady can get her crop harvested, take it to market, make money, and provide us with candied sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top for our Thanksgiving dinners celebrating our bounty of food.
Did sweet potato lady tell you that white Americans refuse to work in those conditions, so if she is getting labor for minimum wage, she is one lucky producer. And since we are getting our food at the price we pay in our grocery stores, we should consider ourselves lucky that we have safe, tasty eats due to migrant workers who settle for less to harvest and federal quality control regulations designed to keep us from getting infections and disease.
But I guess if pooping in a ditch and cooking over a campfire is good enough for Oregon Militia "Patriots", it should be good enough for people working for a living so we can eat.
Well, up here Finney, the Christmas tree farms pay like $20 an hour, under the table, so that workers don't have to endanger their unemployment and welfare benefits, and they STILL can't get home grown citizens to do the work. They come out for one day, in the cold (NOT midwinter),and decide that it is easier to just stay home and collect benefits than it is to do a days work, What does THAT say about the work ethic of the benefit collectors we have raised?? So most of that work is done by migrant and illegals. At least they work (or used to before our government gave them more benefits and rights than WE get).
Like hubby says, I have no issue with people coming here and working towards a better life. I DO have a BIG problem with the politicians GIVING them more rights and resources than a natural born citizen has.. Hubby knows a driver from Guatemala who is working, sending his money back "home" and fully intending to retire BACK in Guatemala where his Social Security will support him VERY comfortably. If you are coming here to work and reap the benefits of citizenship, all the while forcing US to accommodate them in language and other resources, they ought to STAY and BE citizens. IMHO | |
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | People should be provided basic necessities. But yep, they do crap where they want. My husband has a storey that will make you pee your pants about the migrant workers crapping. We hire at a minimum wage of $11.00. Can't get the locals to work. Way too easy to stay home in the hot, cold etc and collect a check. They certainly don't want the babies daddy to work for us because health insurance is only $36./week for a man and his children. But babies momma will have to pay to go to the doctor. $25 a visit. And our plan is affordable for wage deduction. My husband too has legal workers who are planning on going back home to live on their social security in Mexico. | |
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