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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | We have a pretty awesome kids pony ...she's 13.2 hh welsh quarter cross. She is a fast little pony, but she has started rearing when shes excited to go with my 6 year old daughter who has now become scared of her. I am now riding her for a bit to tune her up but have never dealt with a horse rearing before.....any suggestions on how to tackle this vice? She's not sore just gets hot and excited to go. Gets hotter at a competition than at practice , older kids who have rode her manage her fine but my daughter is timid and the horse knows it . I'd like to stop this all together. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciate.
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| Sent mine to the killers I guess I need to add that I have had MY OWN horse for about 60 years now and I have had enough to know when one cant be fixed. Funny thing is that about 6 people who had had dealings with the horse agreed. I AM NOT GOING TO GET HURT ON A HORSE
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| I have one who USED to rear. Past tense. Does not rear anymore.
She did this when she was a baby, maybe 3, to maybe 4-5. First, there is a difference in one trying to hurt you, and a horse is scared or confused. My mare was scared and confused. She was not very confident when asked to do something she wasn't sure of, so she would rear. Lots of being very very calm, and being a confident rider she could depend on was what she needed. My mare was not confident leaving the barn by herself. She'd get about 100 yards from the barn and lock up. If pushed for too long to go forward, she'd rear and always land facing the barn instead of the trail. Lots of getting off and walking past that point, and remounting and proceeding to the trail, little bits every day. Each week she'd get a little further from the barn, until one day she never hesitated.
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Location: Mississsippi | Yep.. Hate to admit it but, mine went to the cattle sale too.
There is too many others out there to ride to risk the cost of getting hurt.
I had one years back that took the bits and ran off with me coming out of the pen.
AND when I said he ran off...
It was out the back, past the trailers and to the blacktop road.
Got off of it & tied it to the trailer.
Tried to make a heading horse of him. Would score like the best of them. Run to the hip for 2 strides, then..
You guessed it. Took the bits and ran off.
Sold him for steer wrestling horse and he went on to a long profitable career with tons of doggers with many pay checks.
Sometimes they just need to go somewhere else, even if that is crossing the rainbow bridge.
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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | I should post a video....she's not coming up so high she's going to flip over, not grabbing the bit and taking off , not half as dirty as some of the horses you guys are describing . she just pops up a bit, really it's potty minor at this point ...what I'm looking for is tips on what to do with them when they do it.....do you stop them and back them up......smack em on the head, disengage hips.....what to do when they do this to break the habit, we've had her for 4 years and this is new, I believe it is absolute fixable. She gets excited to run, names her run the. Walks the pattern slowly........ Just need to come up with a game plan to re direct her energy . S if anyone have suggestions of what they did that worked for them please feel free to share. |
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| porky - 2016-02-23 12:22 PM
I should post a video....she's not coming up so high she's going to flip over, not grabbing the bit and taking off , not half as dirty as some of the horses you guys are describing . she just pops up a bit, really it's potty minor at this point ...what I'm looking for is tips on what to do with them when they do it.....do you stop them and back them up......smack em on the head, disengage hips.....what to do when they do this to break the habit, we've had her for 4 years and this is new, I believe it is absolute fixable. She gets excited to run, names her run the. Walks the pattern slowly........ Just need to come up with a game plan to re direct her energy . S if anyone have suggestions of what they did that worked for them please feel free to share.
Do not back them up! Backing them up can reinforces the use of the hind end which can lead to a more volatile rear. If you are going to do anything that involves using their feet, try to get them to go forward then work them in a circle until they can settle down and think. |
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| Rearing is scary, especially for a little kid! I’ve worked with a lot of ponies and I would say 98% of the ponies that reared were doing it to get out of work and were being little sh!ts – not pain related. But to always give the benefit of doubt, do make sure there is no soreness or teeth/bridle/handling issues that may be happening.
Will she rear with you? If so, you really need to watch for the signs and get to it before it escalates into a rear. I cannot stress that enough. Once you get any inkling, move her feet. Circles, serpentines, corkscrews anything with forward movement to keep her feet moving.
You may need to get a bat to encourage her as some ponies will ignore squeezing/kicking and once they stop, they’ll rear.
I always ride my son’s pony or pony her around before he gets on her, just to keep her tuned up and honest with him. You may need to start doing that?
If she only rears with your daughter, and/or you don’t have anyone to ride her and get it out of her, I’d send her on down the road. It’s NOT worth having your daughter lose confidence over a **** pony when there’s nice ones out there.
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| porky - 2016-02-23 12:22 PM
I should post a video....she's not coming up so high she's going to flip over, not grabbing the bit and taking off , not half as dirty as some of the horses you guys are describing . she just pops up a bit, really it's potty minor at this point ...what I'm looking for is tips on what to do with them when they do it.....do you stop them and back them up......smack em on the head, disengage hips.....what to do when they do this to break the habit, we've had her for 4 years and this is new, I believe it is absolute fixable. She gets excited to run, names her run the. Walks the pattern slowly........ Just need to come up with a game plan to re direct her energy . S if anyone have suggestions of what they did that worked for them please feel free to share.
Do not back her up, this will encourage her to go higher since her weight is already on her back end. Like I said before, the best thing you can do is get to it before it escalates into a rear or pop up – there are always signs! Make her move until she is just dying for breath. I would say, make her think that even thinking about popping up = wanting to die  |
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Location: Central Texas | First let me say rearing is not a good habit at all but my barrel horse is a little on the hot side. I learned that sitting anywhere around the alley only made matters worse. He would get hotter and anxious to make a run. He will pogo stick hop down the alley and sometimes launch up and out when he starts his run. However he has never reared up with me. An experienced rider can handle him making a run with no problem. I have learned to keep him away from the alley until it's my turn to run. Some person's definition of rearing could be what I described or it could be actual up in air teetering on 2 back legs. Not knowing exactly what your little mare is doing I would suggest putting your child on another horse so she doesn't develop a fear of horses. Let the older kids ride her. I don't send any animal to a kill pen, I will have them put down myself if they are truly dangerous, nor would I run one through an auction where someone else may buy it and get hurt. |
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| ampratt - 2016-02-23 12:35 PM
First let me say rearing is not a good habit at all but my barrel horse is a little on the hot side. I learned that sitting anywhere around the alley only made matters worse. He would get hotter and anxious to make a run. He will pogo stick hop down the alley and sometimes launch up and out when he starts his run. However he has never reared up with me. An experienced rider can handle him making a run with no problem. I have learned to keep him away from the alley until it's my turn to run. Some person's definition of rearing could be what I described or it could be actual up in air teetering on 2 back legs. Not knowing exactly what your little mare is doing I would suggest putting your child on another horse so she doesn't develop a fear of horses. Let the older kids ride her. I don't send any animal to a kill pen, I will have them put down myself if they are truly dangerous, nor would I run one through an auction where someone else may buy it and get hurt.
I agree, some horses get hot and act like you described. But my kid's pony? She better be keeping all 4 feet on the ground at all time!!
I absolutely cannot stand a horse that will rear or get to the point of flipping over, because at that point they’ve lost their sense of self-preservation –they’d risk hurting themselves to get their way/get you off/away from pain and IMO, when any horse gets to that kind of mentality, you are in dangerous territory. |
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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | ampratt - 2016-02-23 11:35 AM
First let me say rearing is not a good habit at all but my barrel horse is a little on the hot side. I learned that sitting anywhere around the alley only made matters worse. He would get hotter and anxious to make a run. He will pogo stick hop down the alley and sometimes launch up and out when he starts his run. However he has never reared up with me. An experienced rider can handle him making a run with no problem. I have learned to keep him away from the alley until it's my turn to run. Some person's definition of rearing could be what I described or it could be actual up in air teetering on 2 back legs. Not knowing exactly what your little mare is doing I would suggest putting your child on another horse so she doesn't develop a fear of horses. Let the older kids ride her. I don't send any animal to a kill pen, I will have them put down myself if they are truly dangerous, nor would I run one through an auction where someone else may buy it and get hurt.
Yes that's exactly what we've done, got her on an old horse and e neighbours 9 year old has been hauling the pony to junior rodeos, she pony is kind of a bluffer acts hot then once she gets to go all is well......the other older kids who ride her do great on her so she will. Sold In the meantime I'm riding her to tune her up . |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I can nip that in the bud myself the first time a horse tries it--nose on my knee and wear their tail out with an over n under. A confident kid, if it was minor popping up, I might go that route and see if we could work through it. A timid kid? Nope. No way. Different horse is needed.
My daughter was timid starting, but with positive experience is getting more and more confident. Her first horse was an ancient retired rope horse that was as bomb-proof as I have ever seen, and her 2nd an older, dead broke, honest and kind, 5 event jr rodeo horse. I think she will be ready for more challenge with her next horse, and that's the point we might go with a pony. Either that or my gelding, but he's a lot further to fall off. LOL |
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porky - 2016-02-23 12:22 PM
I should post a video....she's not coming up so high she's going to flip over, not grabbing the bit and taking off , not half as dirty as some of the horses you guys are describing . she just pops up a bit, really it's potty minor at this point ...what I'm looking for is tips on what to do with them when they do it.....do you stop them and back them up......smack em on the head, disengage hips.....what to do when they do this to break the habit, we've had her for 4 years and this is new, I believe it is absolute fixable. She gets excited to run, names her run the. Walks the pattern slowly........ Just need to come up with a game plan to re direct her energy . S if anyone have suggestions of what they did that worked for them please feel free to share.
Do not back her up, this will encourage her to go higher since her weight is already on her back end. Like I said before, the best thing you can do is get to it before it escalates into a rear or pop up – there are always signs! Make her move until she is just dying for breath. I would say, make her think that even thinking about popping up = wanting to die
^^^ Yes yes yes.
My step dad was given a mare (she was slaughter bound) because she figured out that when she reared up, people got off and the work for her was over.
He's a brave (crazy) soul and he stuck with her and when she would pop up, he would send her right into "time to work off the attitude" mode. In the arena, it meant 'move your feet until they cant move anymore'. Outside it meant, 'see that mountain? We're going up it. Alone.'
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Location: Missouri | I had a horse rear and fall on me when I was 13. It took me a month to be able to ride again. Our next race, he reared at the first barrel but I was able to let go just as he came over and his head hit at my feet. Never, ever, ever would I allow my child to ride one that came even an inch off the ground with his front feet.
If I had to ride a horse like this, I'd work that sucker until it was begging to stop, and make it go more. I'd make the alley the only place it could catch wind, then do it all again, until it stood quiet and thankful NOT to move. I wouldn't run barrels until this was completely resolved.
But, probably, I'd just get rid of it. Rearing scares me to death.
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ampratt - 2016-02-23 11:35 AM
First let me say rearing is not a good habit at all but my barrel horse is a little on the hot side. I learned that sitting anywhere around the alley only made matters worse. He would get hotter and anxious to make a run. He will pogo stick hop down the alley and sometimes launch up and out when he starts his run. However he has never reared up with me. An experienced rider can handle him making a run with no problem. I have learned to keep him away from the alley until it's my turn to run. Some person's definition of rearing could be what I described or it could be actual up in air teetering on 2 back legs. Not knowing exactly what your little mare is doing I would suggest putting your child on another horse so she doesn't develop a fear of horses. Let the older kids ride her. I don't send any animal to a kill pen, I will have them put down myself if they are truly dangerous, nor would I run one through an auction where someone else may buy it and get hurt.
Yes that's exactly what we've done, got her on an old horse and e neighbours 9 year old has been hauling the pony to junior rodeos, she pony is kind of a bluffer acts hot then once she gets to go all is well......the other older kids who ride her do great on her so she will. Sold In the meantime I'm riding her to tune her up .
From what I am getting it sounds like you are saying the horse is not truly rearing but just getting on the muscle and lunging up and forward maybe. She's probably just not the horse for your daughter at your daughter's current level of experience. Happens alot. I see adult people on horses that they probably shouldn't be riding. As others said, if she truly starts to rear up, do not start backing her or popping her on the head. I've never seen those actions do anything but cause a worse reaction in the horse. Get her away form the stressful situation as soon as possible. I've also never seen trying to correct a rearing/stressed out horse in the area that has stressed it work out favorably either. Get them away, calm them down then try and bring them back. Try keeping her away from the alley as much as possible even if the older kids are handling her. My experience with my horse is it only made him hotter making his stand in an area that was a trigger for him. Not all animals are the same just like not all people are the same. They all handle stressing/exciting situations the differently. Of course this is all my own opinion and nothing more. |
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ampratt - 2016-02-23 11:35 AM
First let me say rearing is not a good habit at all but my barrel horse is a little on the hot side. I learned that sitting anywhere around the alley only made matters worse. He would get hotter and anxious to make a run. He will pogo stick hop down the alley and sometimes launch up and out when he starts his run. However he has never reared up with me. An experienced rider can handle him making a run with no problem. I have learned to keep him away from the alley until it's my turn to run. Some person's definition of rearing could be what I described or it could be actual up in air teetering on 2 back legs. Not knowing exactly what your little mare is doing I would suggest putting your child on another horse so she doesn't develop a fear of horses. Let the older kids ride her. I don't send any animal to a kill pen, I will have them put down myself if they are truly dangerous, nor would I run one through an auction where someone else may buy it and get hurt.
Yes that's exactly what we've done, got her on an old horse and e neighbours 9 year old has been hauling the pony to junior rodeos, she pony is kind of a bluffer acts hot then once she gets to go all is well......the other older kids who ride her do great on her so she will. Sold In the meantime I'm riding her to tune her up .
From what I am getting it sounds like you are saying the horse is not truly rearing but just getting on the muscle and lunging up and forward maybe. She's probably just not the horse for your daughter at your daughter's current level of experience. Happens alot. I see adult people on horses that they probably shouldn't be riding. As others said, if she truly starts to rear up, do not start backing her or popping her on the head. I've never seen those actions do anything but cause a worse reaction in the horse. Get her away form the stressful situation as soon as possible. I've also never seen trying to correct a rearing/stressed out horse in the area that has stressed it work out favorably either. Get them away, calm them down then try and bring them back. Try keeping her away from the alley as much as possible even if the older kids are handling her. My experience with my horse is it only made him hotter making his stand in an area that was a trigger for him. Not all animals are the same just like not all people are the same. They all handle stressing/exciting situations the differently. Of course this is all my own opinion and nothing more.
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| If this is an "on the muscle" situation you've had some good points from people. No more running this horse until the issue is resolved tho. LOTS of alley work at the practice pen and in exhibitions at the jackpot. LOTS of what I call scoring. Walk in walk out. Reward good behaviour by un-cinching in the alley. The second the horse starts to act up in any undesirable way in the alley maintain forward motion and double it down, which means turn it very tightly one way or the other and for numerous rotations, basically til your dizzy. This doubling down should be difficult and not something your horse wants to do, so make it work at it and get after it while doubled around. Once stopped proceed forward, if the horse goes willingly great, if not double around again this time other direction. Praise it up when it moves forward willingly and quietly like you want and immediately reprimand any bad behaviour by doubling down. Once in the arena calmly walk the pattern, I wouldn't run this horse til the issue is resolved as running it just gets its motor running hotter. Reward calm behaviour in the alley by getting off and uncinching while in the alley. Make it the horses goal to want to behave in the alley so that it's done for the day, uncinched and put up. |
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ampratt - 2016-02-23 11:35 AM
First let me say rearing is not a good habit at all but my barrel horse is a little on the hot side. I learned that sitting anywhere around the alley only made matters worse. He would get hotter and anxious to make a run. He will pogo stick hop down the alley and sometimes launch up and out when he starts his run. However he has never reared up with me. An experienced rider can handle him making a run with no problem. I have learned to keep him away from the alley until it's my turn to run. Some person's definition of rearing could be what I described or it could be actual up in air teetering on 2 back legs. Not knowing exactly what your little mare is doing I would suggest putting your child on another horse so she doesn't develop a fear of horses. Let the older kids ride her. I don't send any animal to a kill pen, I will have them put down myself if they are truly dangerous, nor would I run one through an auction where someone else may buy it and get hurt.
Yes that's exactly what we've done, got her on an old horse and e neighbours 9 year old has been hauling the pony to junior rodeos, she pony is kind of a bluffer acts hot then once she gets to go all is well......the other older kids who ride her do great on her so she will. Sold In the meantime I'm riding her to tune her up .
From what I am getting it sounds like you are saying the horse is not truly rearing but just getting on the muscle and lunging up and forward maybe. She's probably just not the horse for your daughter at your daughter's current level of experience. Happens alot. I see adult people on horses that they probably shouldn't be riding. As others said, if she truly starts to rear up, do not start backing her or popping her on the head. I've never seen those actions do anything but cause a worse reaction in the horse. Get her away form the stressful situation as soon as possible. I've also never seen trying to correct a rearing/stressed out horse in the area that has stressed it work out favorably either. Get them away, calm them down then try and bring them back. Try keeping her away from the alley as much as possible even if the older kids are handling her. My experience with my horse is it only made him hotter making his stand in an area that was a trigger for him. Not all animals are the same just like not all people are the same. They all handle stressing/exciting situations the differently. Of course this is all my own opinion and nothing more.
Taking a horse way from a stressful situation because of bad behavior does nothing but promote bad behavior in a stressful situation.
That's the beauty of being able to have different opinions. I have seen people push a horse in a stressful situation that almost caused the horse, the rider and other riders injury. I have had much more success with letting the horse calm itself then try again. Just my choice. What works for you may not work for me. BTW when I say stressful, I do not mean your normal I am being a butt head atttitude, I mean the situation which is going to go bad real quick because you want to push a horse that is getting ready to explode.
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ampratt - 2016-02-23 11:35 AM
First let me say rearing is not a good habit at all but my barrel horse is a little on the hot side. I learned that sitting anywhere around the alley only made matters worse. He would get hotter and anxious to make a run. He will pogo stick hop down the alley and sometimes launch up and out when he starts his run. However he has never reared up with me. An experienced rider can handle him making a run with no problem. I have learned to keep him away from the alley until it's my turn to run. Some person's definition of rearing could be what I described or it could be actual up in air teetering on 2 back legs. Not knowing exactly what your little mare is doing I would suggest putting your child on another horse so she doesn't develop a fear of horses. Let the older kids ride her. I don't send any animal to a kill pen, I will have them put down myself if they are truly dangerous, nor would I run one through an auction where someone else may buy it and get hurt.
Yes that's exactly what we've done, got her on an old horse and e neighbours 9 year old has been hauling the pony to junior rodeos, she pony is kind of a bluffer acts hot then once she gets to go all is well......the other older kids who ride her do great on her so she will. Sold In the meantime I'm riding her to tune her up .
From what I am getting it sounds like you are saying the horse is not truly rearing but just getting on the muscle and lunging up and forward maybe. She's probably just not the horse for your daughter at your daughter's current level of experience. Happens alot. I see adult people on horses that they probably shouldn't be riding. As others said, if she truly starts to rear up, do not start backing her or popping her on the head. I've never seen those actions do anything but cause a worse reaction in the horse. Get her away form the stressful situation as soon as possible. I've also never seen trying to correct a rearing/stressed out horse in the area that has stressed it work out favorably either. Get them away, calm them down then try and bring them back. Try keeping her away from the alley as much as possible even if the older kids are handling her. My experience with my horse is it only made him hotter making his stand in an area that was a trigger for him. Not all animals are the same just like not all people are the same. They all handle stressing/exciting situations the differently. Of course this is all my own opinion and nothing more.
Taking a horse way from a stressful situation because of bad behavior does nothing but promote bad behavior in a stressful situation.
I understand your point about promoting bad behavior however if you can avoid the stressor in the first place it may be better. I have an older finished horse that also gets on the muscle at the gate. If I sit on him he gets worse. If I stay off him and walk him around then get on just before I run he's great.
As long as he runs in that arena and gives me an honest run I'm more than happy to do whatever makes him more comfortable.
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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | I think it's more of an I'm hot and being a butt head attitude........ She tried it when I was roping on her and standing in the box and I got after her with an over and under and made her work and the next run she didn't try it.......typical pony, got away with lots with kids and needs a reminder that she's not the boss. I am going to enter her the next few jackpots and see how it goes. You know she's one of those ponys that gets comments everywhere we go for being so great ......she was perfect for soooooo long it's just one of those things that needs to be worked through. I could have her sold tomorrow if I wanted as she's well known for being an awesome little pony and have had lots of people tell me if we ever think of selling her to let them know . but I just want to make sure I do what I can before sending her to the next home . A confident kid will do well on her. But they'll need to be a driver, not a passenger because so far I little licken goes a long way with her. Thank you for the suggestions. I will work on redirecting her, and making the alley a happy place.
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I think it's more of an I'm hot and being a butt head attitude........ She tried it when I was roping on her and I got after her with an over and under and made her work and the next run she didn't try it.......typical pony, got away with lots with kids and needs a reminder that she's not the boss. I am going to enter her the next few jackpots and see how it goes,
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ampratt - 2016-02-23 11:35 AM
First let me say rearing is not a good habit at all but my barrel horse is a little on the hot side. I learned that sitting anywhere around the alley only made matters worse. He would get hotter and anxious to make a run. He will pogo stick hop down the alley and sometimes launch up and out when he starts his run. However he has never reared up with me. An experienced rider can handle him making a run with no problem. I have learned to keep him away from the alley until it's my turn to run. Some person's definition of rearing could be what I described or it could be actual up in air teetering on 2 back legs. Not knowing exactly what your little mare is doing I would suggest putting your child on another horse so she doesn't develop a fear of horses. Let the older kids ride her. I don't send any animal to a kill pen, I will have them put down myself if they are truly dangerous, nor would I run one through an auction where someone else may buy it and get hurt.
Yes that's exactly what we've done, got her on an old horse and e neighbours 9 year old has been hauling the pony to junior rodeos, she pony is kind of a bluffer acts hot then once she gets to go all is well......the other older kids who ride her do great on her so she will. Sold In the meantime I'm riding her to tune her up .
From what I am getting it sounds like you are saying the horse is not truly rearing but just getting on the muscle and lunging up and forward maybe. She's probably just not the horse for your daughter at your daughter's current level of experience. Happens alot. I see adult people on horses that they probably shouldn't be riding. As others said, if she truly starts to rear up, do not start backing her or popping her on the head. I've never seen those actions do anything but cause a worse reaction in the horse. Get her away form the stressful situation as soon as possible. I've also never seen trying to correct a rearing/stressed out horse in the area that has stressed it work out favorably either. Get them away, calm them down then try and bring them back. Try keeping her away from the alley as much as possible even if the older kids are handling her. My experience with my horse is it only made him hotter making his stand in an area that was a trigger for him. Not all animals are the same just like not all people are the same. They all handle stressing/exciting situations the differently. Of course this is all my own opinion and nothing more.
Taking a horse way from a stressful situation because of bad behavior does nothing but promote bad behavior in a stressful situation.
I understand your point about promoting bad behavior however if you can avoid the stressor in the first place it may be better. I have an older finished horse that also gets on the muscle at the gate. If I sit on him he gets worse. If I stay off him and walk him around then get on just before I run he's great.
As long as he runs in that arena and gives me an honest run I'm more than happy to do whatever makes him more comfortable.
You said it much better than I did. My horse is the same. He just isn't meant to sit by the alley, watch and patiently wait his turn. He's honest, consistent and safe for me so I work with him, not against him. I don't mind repriminding one but I am absolutely not going to get after a horse that is about to blow up/explode such as rearing because I am not going to get the attention from him I need, it's just probably going to make it much worse. Seen it happen to many times. |
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Location: KS | I would get her checked out by a vet before anything. Awhile back my friend had a horse that would start getting on the muscles and before too long he was flipping over on himself... Scary stuff.. Everyone thought he was just getting hot or sour, but come to find out his back was out of whack. Got a chiropractor to look at him and ever since then, he was a total different horse. |
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| porky - 2016-02-23 1:22 PM I should post a video....she's not coming up so high she's going to flip over, not grabbing the bit and taking off , not half as dirty as some of the horses you guys are describing . she just pops up a bit, really it's potty minor at this point ...what I'm looking for is tips on what to do with them when they do it.....do you stop them and back them up......smack em on the head, disengage hips.....what to do when they do this to break the habit, we've had her for 4 years and this is new, I believe it is absolute fixable. She gets excited to run, names her run the. Walks the pattern slowly........ Just need to come up with a game plan to re direct her energy . S if anyone have suggestions of what they did that worked for them please feel free to share.
your daughter is 6 years old there is a lady on here whoes bomm proof horse flipped over killed her little girl
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Location: Florida.. | My stud was always on the muscle. anywhere.but i trusted him 100% but one day a freakish thing , he reared straight up after freakin out from something and came straight back on top of me. They lifeflighted me .. thank god for a dip in the road for my body.. or hed have killed me..PLease dont put a child on pony until its fixed.. it only takes ONE time an kids are tiny..we trust these horses but sometimes to much.. |
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| I am not a nice person when it comes to a rearing horse. I don't tolerate it in any form. "On the muscle" is a little prancing, teeth chattering, stealing some trot steps at the walk kind of behavior. In no way shape or form is REARING, in any fashion, ok for any horse. I don't care if it has won a million dollars or trained by whats his face or the son of big name, It will NOT be tolerated. I've had my fair share of fights with horses people have brought me that they blew up. One mare, all It took was a week riding with a whip ready to get her a smack between the ears and she was fine til they taught her to rear again as a 'trick' because it's 'cute'. (  ), versus my old pole gelding, which is the horse that made me not tolerate rearing anymore (before him, I was a child who thought I was invincible, and he showed me I wasn't), I could beat that horse til the cows came home and he would push right back 10x whatever I could do. He got to the point where he was just throwing himself backwards, not even getting to a rear anymore when I tossed his old butt to the pasture.
Its just not worth it.
FYI: I was given that pole gelding as a beginner safe, bombproof gelding too. Horses don't care what labels they have, it only takes once to label one dangerous. I would just hope the 6 year old isn't on that horse when it earns its 'dangerous' label. It's not if on a horse that rears, it's when.
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Location: IN MY OWN LITTLE WORLD AT LEAST THEY KNOW ME HERE | I dont think a trip to the sale barn is what's needed.
Jdpd n I agree in riding her and working her thru the alley.
Giving her a relief spot. Listening for her time to engage.
Patience and control is what she needs to be taught.
No different than training a full sized young one ??
Shes ready to roll but just needs to be taught the mechanics of patience and to listen.
She doesn't sound bad - just ready.??
And i understand where your concerns are w your little girl.
So she would be going w me riding her to a lot of little play days and never entering the arena above a controlled walk and trot but after she knows she isn't going to run every trip down the alley.
Lots of alley walk and sit and in n out and sit.
Boring but worth it.
Hope she turns around and does fine.
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Location: Florida.. | Yakima - 2016-02-24 2:06 AM I dont think a trip to the sale barn is what's needed. Jdpd n I agree in riding her and working her thru the alley. Giving her a relief spot. Listening for her time to engage. Patience and control is what she needs to be taught. No different than training a full sized young one ?? Shes ready to roll but just needs to be taught the mechanics of patience and to listen. She doesn't sound bad - just ready.?? And i understand where your concerns are w your little girl. So she would be going w me riding her to a lot of little play days and never entering the arena above a controlled walk and trot but after she knows she isn't going to run every trip down the alley. Lots of alley walk and sit and in n out and sit. Boring but worth it. Hope she turns around and does fine. Sounds like you have a little athlete that wants to go. ??
Agree.. I just would not allow a child on her yet. a adult yes can work her thru this.. |
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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | Yakima - 2016-02-24 12:06 AM
I dont think a trip to the sale barn is what's needed.
Jdpd n I agree in riding her and working her thru the alley.
Giving her a relief spot. Listening for her time to engage.
Patience and control is what she needs to be taught.
No different than training a full sized young one ??
Shes ready to roll but just needs to be taught the mechanics of patience and to listen.
She doesn't sound bad - just ready.??
And i understand where your concerns are w your little girl.
So she would be going w me riding her to a lot of little play days and never entering the arena above a controlled walk and trot but after she knows she isn't going to run every trip down the alley.
Lots of alley walk and sit and in n out and sit.
Boring but worth it.
Hope she turns around and does fine.
Sounds like you have a little athlete that wants to go. ??
Yes thank you for the advice, I've put three rides on her this week , and she's doing phenomenal. And yes she's not dangerous rearing just anticipating the cue to go and ready to go. The first ride on her I took hr heeling , in the heel box she popped up a bit and I smacked her on top of the head and she hasn't done it since , a complete attitude adjustment . Ill be bringing her to the next few races to work with her and enter her to see how she is with an announcer and music, but so far so good....she's still on the muscle but if I just talk to her she relaxes...one of those horses that will do best with a driver instead of a passenger . For all of those with valid advice on how to help her without shipping her, thank you . |
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Location: SE KS | porky - 2016-02-24 8:04 AM Yakima - 2016-02-24 12:06 AM I dont think a trip to the sale barn is what's needed. Jdpd n I agree in riding her and working her thru the alley. Giving her a relief spot. Listening for her time to engage. Patience and control is what she needs to be taught. No different than training a full sized young one ?? Shes ready to roll but just needs to be taught the mechanics of patience and to listen. She doesn't sound bad - just ready.?? And i understand where your concerns are w your little girl. So she would be going w me riding her to a lot of little play days and never entering the arena above a controlled walk and trot but after she knows she isn't going to run every trip down the alley. Lots of alley walk and sit and in n out and sit. Boring but worth it. Hope she turns around and does fine. Sounds like you have a little athlete that wants to go. ?? Yes thank you for the advice, I've put three rides on her this week , and she's doing phenomenal. And yes she's not dangerous rearing just anticipating the cue to go and ready to go. The first ride on her I took hr heeling , in the heel box she popped up a bit and I smacked her on top of the head and she hasn't done it since , a complete attitude adjustment . Ill be bringing her to the next few races to work with her and enter her to see how she is with an announcer and music, but so far so good....she's still on the muscle but if I just talk to her she relaxes...one of those horses that will do best with a driver instead of a passenger . For all of those with valid advice on how to help her without shipping her, thank you .
this may all be good - but they also know who is on their back. As you may have straigthen her up - once you put you rlittle girl back on, the pony will know and perhaps try her again.
JMO - I would put my daughter on something that walks in the gate and goes the speed that she wants - you need to build your daughter's confidence also - I don't see that happening with her riding this pony.
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Location: North Dakota | porky - 2016-02-24 8:04 AM Yakima - 2016-02-24 12:06 AM I dont think a trip to the sale barn is what's needed. Jdpd n I agree in riding her and working her thru the alley. Giving her a relief spot. Listening for her time to engage. Patience and control is what she needs to be taught. No different than training a full sized young one ?? Shes ready to roll but just needs to be taught the mechanics of patience and to listen. She doesn't sound bad - just ready.?? And i understand where your concerns are w your little girl. So she would be going w me riding her to a lot of little play days and never entering the arena above a controlled walk and trot but after she knows she isn't going to run every trip down the alley. Lots of alley walk and sit and in n out and sit. Boring but worth it. Hope she turns around and does fine. Sounds like you have a little athlete that wants to go. ?? Yes thank you for the advice, I've put three rides on her this week , and she's doing phenomenal. And yes she's not dangerous rearing just anticipating the cue to go and ready to go. The first ride on her I took hr heeling , in the heel box she popped up a bit and I smacked her on top of the head and she hasn't done it since , a complete attitude adjustment . Ill be bringing her to the next few races to work with her and enter her to see how she is with an announcer and music, but so far so good....she's still on the muscle but if I just talk to her she relaxes...one of those horses that will do best with a driver instead of a passenger . For all of those with valid advice on how to help her without shipping her, thank you .
I would highly recommend that when you do have this pony fixed and your daughter gets back on her, that your girl is never in or down the alley alone. You should be there even if it means taking hold of the horse. This is a bit off topic but I've seen so many horses with unconfident kids be ruined because the parents aren't around to help if it's needed. Their frustration level and anxiety becomes so high the race is lost before they ever step in the arena. |
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Location: That part of Texas | Dinero10 - 2016-02-24 8:38 AM porky - 2016-02-24 8:04 AM Yakima - 2016-02-24 12:06 AM I dont think a trip to the sale barn is what's needed. Jdpd n I agree in riding her and working her thru the alley. Giving her a relief spot. Listening for her time to engage. Patience and control is what she needs to be taught. No different than training a full sized young one ?? Shes ready to roll but just needs to be taught the mechanics of patience and to listen. She doesn't sound bad - just ready.?? And i understand where your concerns are w your little girl. So she would be going w me riding her to a lot of little play days and never entering the arena above a controlled walk and trot but after she knows she isn't going to run every trip down the alley. Lots of alley walk and sit and in n out and sit. Boring but worth it. Hope she turns around and does fine. Sounds like you have a little athlete that wants to go. ?? Yes thank you for the advice, I've put three rides on her this week , and she's doing phenomenal. And yes she's not dangerous rearing just anticipating the cue to go and ready to go. The first ride on her I took hr heeling , in the heel box she popped up a bit and I smacked her on top of the head and she hasn't done it since , a complete attitude adjustment . Ill be bringing her to the next few races to work with her and enter her to see how she is with an announcer and music, but so far so good....she's still on the muscle but if I just talk to her she relaxes...one of those horses that will do best with a driver instead of a passenger . For all of those with valid advice on how to help her without shipping her, thank you .
JMO - I would put my daughter on something that walks in the gate and goes the speed that she wants - you need to build your daughter's confidence also - I don't see that happening with her riding this pony.
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When I was a kid, I used to ride problem ponies for friends/their parents because we had a working ranch and could put miles on them and get them straightened out. No matter how much work I did on a horse to get them right, as soon as the kid who owned the pony got back on them, if they weren't a changed rider who could handle the horse the problem still persisted.
Unless you are going to spend much of that correction time with your daughter involved and actively learning how (with her riding him through it) to control this horse in the way you are doing, the problem is probably going to pop up again and again because the horse knows who is riding him and what he can get away with. You may have him set up fine but what happens when she thinks he's fixed and he pulls a stunt at a rodeo in a month or so that wrecks her confidence because she can't handle him on her own?
It's not doing her any favors and it's not doing the pony any good because in a sense, he's saying "I'm ready to go . . . with someone else who can ride me at the rate I can run." I get the fact that any horse should do what you want them to do but in a sense, you're asking him to chill out, take his game down a notch or two and the popping up he is doing is his way of saying "yup . . . but I want to run! Let's go!" Until she grows in her riding to handle him and to go at his level, they are always going to be a mismatch because he knows who is riding him and what he can get away with. He may get fixed for awhile but the second that she has him at a competition, he's ready to go and wants to run and she gets scared because he's excited and starts holding him back --- he's going to do this again and she's going to have less confidence in him because it will seem like it's coming out of the blue but it's really not. You might fix the action but the underlying part is going to remain.
One of my best playdaying horses was built exactly the same way/size as this pony you are describing. Good horse for the most part but he wasn't a pony for all types of kids because he would pull stunts with those that he could because he always knew who was riding him. We were a good match for him as riders because we were as mean and ornery as he was and we could ride him at his highest level. He was "popper" in the alley and you did have to be on your toes to keep him in line but he was never mean to us or would ever hurt one of us kids on purpose. He was as competitive as we were and he loved to run and do his job. He was just one of those ponies who needed a confident rider at the helm or he was never going to follow them if they weren't. He tested our right to be leader on a regular basis just to make sure we weren't slacking off. He would have been a nightmare for most kids (especially more timid and learning riders) to own.
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Dinero10 - 2016-02-24 8:38 AM porky - 2016-02-24 8:04 AM Yakima - 2016-02-24 12:06 AM I dont think a trip to the sale barn is what's needed. Jdpd n I agree in riding her and working her thru the alley. Giving her a relief spot. Listening for her time to engage. Patience and control is what she needs to be taught. No different than training a full sized young one ?? Shes ready to roll but just needs to be taught the mechanics of patience and to listen. She doesn't sound bad - just ready.?? And i understand where your concerns are w your little girl. So she would be going w me riding her to a lot of little play days and never entering the arena above a controlled walk and trot but after she knows she isn't going to run every trip down the alley. Lots of alley walk and sit and in n out and sit. Boring but worth it. Hope she turns around and does fine. Sounds like you have a little athlete that wants to go. ?? Yes thank you for the advice, I've put three rides on her this week , and she's doing phenomenal. And yes she's not dangerous rearing just anticipating the cue to go and ready to go. The first ride on her I took hr heeling , in the heel box she popped up a bit and I smacked her on top of the head and she hasn't done it since , a complete attitude adjustment . Ill be bringing her to the next few races to work with her and enter her to see how she is with an announcer and music, but so far so good....she's still on the muscle but if I just talk to her she relaxes...one of those horses that will do best with a driver instead of a passenger . For all of those with valid advice on how to help her without shipping her, thank you .
JMO - I would put my daughter on something that walks in the gate and goes the speed that she wants - you need to build your daughter's confidence also - I don't see that happening with her riding this pony.
When I was a kid, I used to ride problem ponies for friends/their parents because we had a working ranch and could put miles on them and get them straightened out. No matter how much work I did on a horse to get them right, as soon as the kid who owned the pony got back on them, if they weren't a changed rider who could handle the horse the problem still persisted.
Unless you are going to spend much of that correction time with your daughter involved and actively learning how (with her riding him through it) to control this horse in the way you are doing, the problem is probably going to pop up again and again because the horse knows who is riding him and what he can get away with. You may have him set up fine but what happens when she thinks he's fixed and he pulls a stunt at a rodeo in a month or so that wrecks her confidence because she can't handle him on her own?
It's not doing her any favors and it's not doing the pony any good because in a sense, he's saying "I'm ready to go . . . with someone else who can ride me at the rate I can run." I get the fact that any horse should do what you want them to do but in a sense, you're asking him to chill out, take his game down a notch or two and the popping up he is doing is his way of saying "yup . . . but I want to run! Let's go!" Until she grows in her riding to handle him and to go at his level, they are always going to be a mismatch because he knows who is riding him and what he can get away with. He may get fixed for awhile but the second that she has him at a competition, he's ready to go and wants to run and she gets scared because he's excited and starts holding him back --- he's going to do this again and she's going to have less confidence in him because it will seem like it's coming out of the blue but it's really not. You might fix the action but the underlying part is going to remain.
One of my best playdaying horses was built exactly the same way/size as this pony you are describing. Good horse for the most part but he wasn't a pony for all types of kids because he would pull stunts with those that he could because he always knew who was riding him. We were a good match for him as riders because we were as mean and ornery as he was and we could ride him at his highest level. He was "popper" in the alley and you did have to be on your toes to keep him in line but he was never mean to us or would ever hurt one of us kids on purpose. He was as competitive as we were and he loved to run and do his job. He was just one of those ponies who needed a confident rider at the helm or he was never going to follow them if they weren't. He tested our right to be leader on a regular basis just to make sure we weren't slacking off. He would have been a nightmare for most kids (especially more timid and learning riders) to own.
Depending on the pony's attitude with mom riding her, that might fix her.. or she might need to either stick with the more experienced riders or with the 6yo and think that barrels are a slow sport. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Maybe give your daughter some time with an older/quieter horse until she's more comfortable? Just let a more confident/aggressive kid run the pony for now?
She sounds like she just gets a bit on the muscle and pops up when she's ready to roll, it wouldn't be a big deal to me....but I grew up fixing heathen ponies and loved them all. I don't consider popping up a little bit a big deal, I think you can fix it very easily. I'd make that sucker work her tail off until she was exhausted, and then let her just rest in the alley. Make it a happy place for her. There's a big difference in one that pops up a bit and one that's going to stand straight up in the air on their back legs.
You might be able to get the pony to be better, but it's going to know the difference between an adult being on it's back and a little one. If you can find an agressive kid to ride it for a bit, that would be the route I'd take.
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Location: Piedmont, OK | If it is truly rearing (and not just popping up a little because she is excited) that is a very dangerous situation. Please do not put a child on that pony. They can flip over and seriously hurt someone. I would take it to a very good lameness vet to get them looked at, an equine dentist to make sure the teeth are floated properly, and a reputable chiropractor or Doctor of Osteopathy to rule out all forms of pain. In my experience rearing is a sign of a significant problem - like bleeding, ulcers or serious lameness or serious head issues! if it's the later it would be gone off of my place!!!! |
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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | We already got my daughter a new horse , old faithful . We are aware they are not a good match . that was the first thing we did . This pony will be best for a confident kid ready to win . Most of you with over aggressive opinions remember you have never seen the horse in person , I can't help but think your imaginations may he Getting the best of you in regards to what you are picturing |
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Location: Northwest Florida | I'm very surprised that so many people are suggesting this pony is unable to be fixed or should be hauled off to an auction. We don't have videos to watch or any idea of what her true behavior is... How could you suggest something so severe with such little information?
What I'm picturing is a little pony that loves her job, rearing to go in the alley way, and getting back on her haunches. She probably needs to do a lot of relaxing in the alley and the arena. Walking in and out, taking her to the alley to dismount, taking her in the arena and not allowing anything faster than a dog walk.
If it doesn't work out and she still scares your daughter, then perhaps she needs to move on to a home with a more confident, rough and tumble little kid that likes one rearing to go, and you can find one better suited for your daughter.
This is not a malicious or dangerous behavior that justifies a ride in the big silver stock trailer by any means. Good luck with your pony. |
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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | BigStarBound - 2016-02-24 12:57 PM
I'm very surprised that so many people are suggesting this pony is unable to be fixed or should be hauled off to an auction. We don't have videos to watch or any idea of what her true behavior is... How could you suggest something so severe with such little information?
What I'm picturing is a little pony that loves her job, rearing to go in the alley way, and getting back on her haunches. She probably needs to do a lot of relaxing in the alley and the arena. Walking in and out, taking her to the alley to dismount, taking her in the arena and not allowing anything faster than a dog walk.
If it doesn't work out and she still scares your daughter, then perhaps she needs to move on to a home with a more confident, rough and tumble little kid that likes one rearing to go, and you can find one better suited for your daughter.
This is not a malicious or dangerous behavior that justifies a ride in the big silver stock trailer by any means. Good luck with your pony.
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Not sur if this link will work. This is her two years ago...lt me see if I can find one of her more hot.....
I Found some more vidoes on my computer and watching them has made it obvious to me, the issue is that the pony wants to go and the kid wants to go slow.....pony asks to go, kid gets nervous and pulls n reins and then pony is on the muscle and frustrated cause it wants to do its job,,,,,..kid gets more scared. It was so good to watch those videos. Even though my daughter won't be riding her anymore it was good to see how it all came to be.....for a while I was stumped why our perfect pony was acting like that but now after seeing it. I have a better idea how I handle it......alley work, making her go the speed I ask, and finding a kid who is not timid to enjoy her. I have made a few runs on her in the past few days hoping to see her at her worst but honestly, she's been fantastic, goes out , smokes a run and then comes back and walks.....she's just happiest doing her job, but I she does still need to be respectful enough to go slow too so I will keep up with homework .
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Location: Northwest Florida | porky - 2016-02-24 3:21 PM
https://www.facebook.com/calnash.lacey.9/videos/309852785874137/?l=8...
Not sur if this link will work. This is her two years ago...lt me see if I can find one of her more hot.....
I Found some more vidoes on my computer and watching them has made it obvious to me, the issue is that the pony wants to go and the kid wants to go slow.....pony asks to go, kid gets nervous and pulls n reins and then pony is on the muscle and frustrated cause it wants to do its job,,,,,..kid gets more scared. It was so good to watch those videos. Even though my daughter won't be riding her anymore it was good to see how it all came to be.....for a while I was stumped why our perfect pony was acting like that but now after seeing it. I have a better idea how I handle it......alley work, making her go the speed I ask, and finding a kid who is not timid to enjoy her. I have made a few runs on her in the past few days hoping to see her at her worst but honestly, she's been fantastic, goes out , smokes a run and then comes back and walks.....she's just happiest doing her job, but I she does still need to be respectful enough to go slow too so I will keep up with homework .
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | porky - 2016-02-24 1:40 PM We already got my daughter a new horse , old faithful . We are aware they are not a good match . that was the first thing we did . This pony will be best for a confident kid ready to win . Most of you with over aggressive opinions remember you have never seen the horse in person , I can't help but think your imaginations may he Getting the best of you in regards to what you are picturing
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Location: The edge of no where | BigStarBound - 2016-02-24 3:48 PM porky - 2016-02-24 3:21 PM https://www.facebook.com/calnash.lacey.9/videos/309852785874137/?l=8... Not sur if this link will work. This is her two years ago...lt me see if I can find one of her more hot..... I Found some more vidoes on my computer and watching them has made it obvious to me, the issue is that the pony wants to go and the kid wants to go slow.....pony asks to go, kid gets nervous and pulls n reins and then pony is on the muscle and frustrated cause it wants to do its job,,,,,..kid gets more scared. It was so good to watch those videos. Even though my daughter won't be riding her anymore it was good to see how it all came to be.....for a while I was stumped why our perfect pony was acting like that but now after seeing it. I have a better idea how I handle it......alley work, making her go the speed I ask, and finding a kid who is not timid to enjoy her. I have made a few runs on her in the past few days hoping to see her at her worst but honestly, she's been fantastic, goes out , smokes a run and then comes back and walks.....she's just happiest doing her job, but I she does still need to be respectful enough to go slow too so I will keep up with homework . It worked for me. She is CUTE!
She looks like some kid is going to have a BLAST on her! She's too dang cute! |
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 My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | porky - 2016-02-24 3:21 PM
https://www.facebook.com/calnash.lacey.9/videos/309852785874137/?l=8...
Not sur if this link will work. This is her two years ago...lt me see if I can find one of her more hot.....
I Found some more vidoes on my computer and watching them has made it obvious to me, the issue is that the pony wants to go and the kid wants to go slow.....pony asks to go, kid gets nervous and pulls n reins and then pony is on the muscle and frustrated cause it wants to do its job,,,,,..kid gets more scared. It was so good to watch those videos. Even though my daughter won't be riding her anymore it was good to see how it all came to be.....for a while I was stumped why our perfect pony was acting like that but now after seeing it. I have a better idea how I handle it......alley work, making her go the speed I ask, and finding a kid who is not timid to enjoy her. I have made a few runs on her in the past few days hoping to see her at her worst but honestly, she's been fantastic, goes out , smokes a run and then comes back and walks.....she's just happiest doing her job, but I she does still need to be respectful enough to go slow too so I will keep up with homework .
They are both so cute! I don't see a vicious, mean pony there---and was her headstall even half way off?? |
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Location: on my horse | cyount2009 - 2016-02-23 11:05 AM
I PM'd you. In my opinion rearing is the second scariest thing a horse can do when you are on their back. It is probably one of the hardest things to fix as well.
whats the first scariest? |
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | cute pony in that video.. she doesnt look like she has any on the muscle rear in her..lol..but I read you have other videos.. if this was her when first bought then its a learned behavior.. |
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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | Always an angel at home or small jackpots, but at a rodeo with announcer she gets hotter like I said our neighbours 9 year old competed on her all winter, she was quite on the muscle but that kid couldn't care less and they did fine, I just want to get it under control
Edited by porky 2016-02-25 8:12 AM
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | Oh got ya.. she sure is cute hope the issue is fixed and your doing the responsible thing by not allowing your lil girl on her..  |
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For those who have dealt with a rearing horse ..... Advice pls