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Location: Somewhere around here | I heard these are THE Billy Cook saddles if you're looking to buy one. I have one I'm looking at and I'm falling in love with it but it doesn't say what the gullet size is. On the TX Billy Cooks they say 6.5" and I'm really hoping the OK ones are a little bigger than that. |
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| there is only one Billy Cook model that has a wide gullet. It is a 7 inch for my massive horse. I have three, all from Sulphur OK. Two are CJ trees and one is a Buster Welch tree. The regular trees fit even my wide horses well. The paint in my avatar is really thick through the shoulders so I got the wide tree for him. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | The one I'm currently looking at is a Buster Welch tree. |
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| I ride my old 20 yr old Billy Cooks on just about everything..from weird shaped withers to broad stallions...I have only come across 1 horse they did not fit. I love these saddles, they are the only thing I have rode in that actually give me the freedom to move and not throw me forward..... The only other saddles I really have liked are old CJ's and Tod Sloans.
Never really looked to see what tree these are....Anyone know how to find out?
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| On the Latgo keeper there are 4 numbers.
The third will tell you what tree
I have one that says 2031, it is a Lynn mackenzie tree, the one I believe stands for tooling, not sure what the first two stand for.
I don't believe billy cook has a gullet over 6 3/4, but they measure the gullet before the tree takes shape. When a lay person tries to measure it concho to concho, it will measure over 7.
Myself I found the 2030 model Lynn Mackenzie wider then the 1901 model buster welsh |
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| cheryl makofka - 2016-03-02 10:17 AM
On the Latgo keeper there are 4 numbers.
The third will tell you what tree
I have one that says 2031, it is a Lynn mackenzie tree, the one I believe stands for tooling, not sure what the first two stand for.
I don't believe billy cook has a gullet over 6 3/4, but they measure the gullet before the tree takes shape. When a lay person tries to measure it concho to concho, it will measure over 7.
Myself I found the 2030 model Lynn Mackenzie wider then the 1901 model buster welsh
So a "3" will be the Lynn MacKenzie tree...what is the buster welch? |
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Location: somewhere in the south | I just bought a Billy Cook barrel saddle and unfortunately the seller didn't measure the seat correctly and it's too small for me, it was suppose to be a 15 but definitely is a 14.5 and therefore is for sale. The #'s on the tag are 279, how can I find out more info on this saddle so I can honestly sell it for what it is? |
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| By chance, the first barrel saddle I ever bought was a Billy Cook. Now, I've owned Corriente's, Shiloh's, Double J Pozzi, and I will buy every Billy Cook I find if its the right seat size (psh I wish, but I would if I could afford to). They are 100% my absolute favorite and have fit everything from tall and spindle-y, to short and broad that I've put them on. I love love love them! |
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| Warriors Mom - 2016-03-02 11:40 AM
cheryl makofka - 2016-03-02 10:17 AM
On the Latgo keeper there are 4 numbers.
The third will tell you what tree
I have one that says 2031, it is a Lynn mackenzie tree, the one I believe stands for tooling, not sure what the first two stand for.
I don't believe billy cook has a gullet over 6 3/4, but they measure the gullet before the tree takes shape. When a lay person tries to measure it concho to concho, it will measure over 7.
Myself I found the 2030 model Lynn Mackenzie wider then the 1901 model buster welsh
So a "3" will be the Lynn MacKenzie tree...what is the buster welch?
From my understanding the buster welsh tree is a 0, and the first two numbers have to be 19
1901 1907 are buster welsh trees
Charmaine james trees I have more difficulty deciphering as the old models 1527 1529, but now there are some 2000 models too
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| turn3nhome - 2016-03-02 12:18 PM
I just bought a Billy Cook barrel saddle and unfortunately the seller didn't measure the seat correctly and it's too small for me, it was suppose to be a 15 but definitely is a 14.5 and therefore is for sale. The #'s on the tag are 279, how can I find out more info on this saddle so I can honestly sell it for what it is?
Is yours a genuine sulphur Oklahoma, or is it an original Greenville Texas? |
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Location: Michigan | cheryl makofka - 2016-03-02 11:17 AM
On the Latgo keeper there are 4 numbers.
The third will tell you what tree
I have one that says 2031, it is a Lynn mackenzie tree, the one I believe stands for tooling, not sure what the first two stand for.
I don't believe billy cook has a gullet over 6 3/4, but they measure the gullet before the tree takes shape. When a lay person tries to measure it concho to concho, it will measure over 7.
Myself I found the 2030 model Lynn Mackenzie wider then the 1901 model buster welsh
You are correct on the 6 3/4. It's printed in their catalogs. If you ever talk to Billy on the phone, he doesn't believe any horse needs over a 6 3/4. |
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Location: Mississippi | I have a 2019 and would love to find another one. This model has been discontinued. Anyone have one of these they'd like to move along? It's a 14". I could probably use a 14.5 as well, not sure about a 15". I love mine! |
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| I have one from Sulphur. Just a warning, CHECK the straps on both sides. I rode in mine brand new 3x before the offbillet broke during a run. I also have had problems with the stirrups falling off because the part that slides over the latch to adjust the stirrups likes to come off (In fact I got a broken rib one time from the stirrup breaking off when I was getting on).
My OK billy cook fit my 16 hand, 1300lbs mare with no problems. |
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Location: somewhere in the south | cheryl makofka - 2016-03-02 1:52 PM turn3nhome - 2016-03-02 12:18 PM I just bought a Billy Cook barrel saddle and unfortunately the seller didn't measure the seat correctly and it's too small for me, it was suppose to be a 15 but definitely is a 14.5 and therefore is for sale. The #'s on the tag are 279, how can I find out more info on this saddle so I can honestly sell it for what it is? Is yours a genuine sulphur Oklahoma, or is it an original Greenville Texas?
It states Tx on the tag..............interested?
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Location: somewhere in the south | cheryl makofka - 2016-03-02 11:17 AM On the Latgo keeper there are 4 numbers. The third will tell you what tree I have one that says 2031, it is a Lynn mackenzie tree, the one I believe stands for tooling, not sure what the first two stand for. I don't believe billy cook has a gullet over 6 3/4, but they measure the gullet before the tree takes shape. When a lay person tries to measure it concho to concho, it will measure over 7. Myself I found the 2030 model Lynn Mackenzie wider then the 1901 model buster welsh
So what would a 2010 be? which tree and size gullet? |
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| cheryl makofka - 2016-03-02 12:46 PM
Warriors Mom - 2016-03-02 11:40 AM
cheryl makofka - 2016-03-02 10:17 AM
On the Latgo keeper there are 4 numbers.
The third will tell you what tree
I have one that says 2031, it is a Lynn mackenzie tree, the one I believe stands for tooling, not sure what the first two stand for.
I don't believe billy cook has a gullet over 6 3/4, but they measure the gullet before the tree takes shape. When a lay person tries to measure it concho to concho, it will measure over 7.
Myself I found the 2030 model Lynn Mackenzie wider then the 1901 model buster welsh
So a "3" will be the Lynn MacKenzie tree...what is the buster welch?
From my understanding the buster welsh tree is a 0, and the first two numbers have to be 19
1901 1907 are buster welsh trees
Charmaine james trees I have more difficulty deciphering as the old models 1527 1529, but now there are some 2000 models too
all of mine are 190 models....wonder why I love these saddles so much lol I have 4 of them!!!!
At least now I know what type of tree to look for when these saddles can no longer be repaired and need to be put to rest!!!
What other saddles companies use the buster welch tree?
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| turn3nhome - 2016-03-04 8:43 AM
cheryl makofka - 2016-03-02 11:17 AM On the Latgo keeper there are 4 numbers. The third will tell you what tree I have one that says 2031, it is a Lynn mackenzie tree, the one I believe stands for tooling, not sure what the first two stand for. I don't believe billy cook has a gullet over 6 3/4, but they measure the gullet before the tree takes shape. When a lay person tries to measure it concho to concho, it will measure over 7. Myself I found the 2030 model Lynn Mackenzie wider then the 1901 model buster welsh
So what would a 2010 be? which tree and size gullet?
2010 is a charmayne james tree, full quarter horse bars, gullet I don't know. |
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| I have a Billy cook with numbers 2031. From what I read in the comments, this is the Lynn mackenzie tree? Does anyone know if it has full or semi qh bars. I bought it used so I have no info on the tree |
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Location: Alabama | Does anyone know how to actually get in touch with BC to check a number? |
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| cheryl makofka - 2016-03-04 8:57 AM
turn3nhome - 2016-03-04 8:43 AM
cheryl makofka - 2016-03-02 11:17 AM On the Latgo keeper there are 4 numbers. The third will tell you what tree I have one that says 2031, it is a Lynn mackenzie tree, the one I believe stands for tooling, not sure what the first two stand for. I don't believe billy cook has a gullet over 6 3/4, but they measure the gullet before the tree takes shape. When a lay person tries to measure it concho to concho, it will measure over 7. Myself I found the 2030 model Lynn Mackenzie wider then the 1901 model buster welsh
So what would a 2010 be? which tree and size gullet?
2010 is a charmayne james tree, full quarter horse bars, gullet I don't know.
I own the 2010 and the gullet is a 6 3/4. There is a bit of flare to the bars so if fit my smaller mare that was a little beefy in the shoulder. Love that saddle and everyone that sits in it likes it too. Seems to fit just about everything I have put it on. It was not hard and stiff or squeaky either. |
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| cecollins0811 - 2016-03-02 7:59 AM
The one I'm currently looking at is a Buster Welch tree.
The Buster Welch does not come in a wide tree. I have a Buster Welch regular tree. My paint horse is thick and weighs about 1250. That saddle is a little narrow for him. It fit everything else I own, wide or narrow. I love that buster welch though |
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Location: Alabama | So today I rode one with 1527 on the keeper. Built in 95.
I can't seem to find one with that exact number for sale. Would a newer one with 152? have the same tree? Presumably? What about a 1550? He needs a website that helps decipher these things! LOL |
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| I think they change the model numbers on occasion. Just for the record my Buster Welch is model 1901. My wide tree is at my trainer's. I do not know what model it is but it does have a CJ tree.
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Google.. billy cook/ sulphur oklahoma/ saddle.com it will bring up phone and address . |
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| Sockittoemred - 2017-04-28 4:13 PM
Does anyone know how to actually get in touch with BC to check a number?
580-622-5505. Billy Cook Saddlery and Harness. Sulphur, Ok.
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Location: SE KS | My keeper on my saddle is 1524
The serial # starts 05 1067 95
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| lhighquality - 2017-05-04 9:36 AM
My keeper on my saddle is 1524
The serial # starts 05 1067 95
Anyone have any idea the specs on this?
It the CJ, rawhide covered tree. Probably made in 2005. I think I have that saddle. I have two that have CJ trees. On is the wide gullet, onw is not. This one is not the wide gullet.
http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/billy-cook-saddle.html#.WQs9bUXyvIU |
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| YOU GUYS just made me buy a saddle lol. Like literally just now. 15" 2030 Sulphur. Was a good deal can't wait to get it! |
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Location: SE KS | streakysox - 2017-05-04 10:04 AM
lhighquality - 2017-05-04 9:36 AM
My keeper on my saddle is 1524
The serial # starts 05 1067 95
Anyone have any idea the specs on this?
It the CJ, rawhide covered tree. Probably made in 2005. I think I have that saddle. I have two that have CJ trees. On is the wide gullet, onw is not. This one is not the wide gullet.
http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/billy-cook-saddle.html#.WQs9bUXyvIU[...
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| lhighquality - 2017-05-04 1:57 PM
streakysox - 2017-05-04 10:04 AM
lhighquality - 2017-05-04 9:36 AM
My keeper on my saddle is 1524
The serial # starts 05 1067 95
Anyone have any idea the specs on this?
It the CJ, rawhide covered tree. Probably made in 2005. I think I have that saddle. I have two that have CJ trees. On is the wide gullet, onw is not. This one is not the wide gullet.
http://www.horsesaddleshop.com/billy-cook-saddle.html#.WQs9bUXyvIU[...
Thank You!!!!!
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