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| Sorry guys, I'm going to vent a little bit. Is is just me or has Facebook Advertising for horses majorly gone down hill? It just seems like everyone is posting- even children/teenagers are posting horses for sale and most of the ads just seem like they are more for a popularity contest instead of people actually posting horses for sale? It might be because I'm a Photographer and I studied Advertising in College, but people are posting horrible sale photos and descriptions of these horses. I mean snap chat photos? Seriously! Is it that hard to take a nice conformation photo of your horse? Most phones have decent cameras nowadays! I think it is really frustrating for sellers who actually put effort in their advertisements and want/need to sell their horse. It's annoying to have these poorly thought-out ads flooding the group pages. I personally just skip through those ads without even looking at the horse. Has anyone else noticed this? Maybe I should just delete some of the For Sale groups! I guess one positive thing is it is easy entertainment 
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Location: SE KS | I agree, some of the photos are horrible.
However, my problem with getting a "decent" photo, which is still not as good as could be, is because I have no one to hold the horse or stand them up!!! When I do get, usually husband or son to help, which is usually just the same as no help, the pictures are just as bad. I'm no photographer by any means, but I have trouble getting a "decent" photo!!! |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | lhighquality - 2016-03-03 2:55 PM I agree, some of the photos are horrible. However, my problem with getting a "decent" photo, which is still not as good as could be, is because I have no one to hold the horse or stand them up!!! When I do get, usually husband or son to help, which is usually just the same as no help, the pictures are just as bad. I'm no photographer by any means, but I have trouble getting a "decent" photo!!!
Sorry that made me laugh. You are right though, some just can't seem to get them standing so a decent photo can be taken. Sometimes it's easier to just put them on the walker and take some pics...for me anyways. I've seen pics even here that I by pass cause of the pics taken. |
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| lhighquality - 2016-03-03 12:55 PM
I agree, some of the photos are horrible.
However, my problem with getting a "decent" photo, which is still not as good as could be, is because I have no one to hold the horse or stand them up!!! When I do get, usually husband or son to help, which is usually just the same as no help, the pictures are just as bad. I'm no photographer by any means, but I have trouble getting a "decent" photo!!!
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| I am also amazed... I hate the random pasture pictures. Walking towards them, head looks huge, you have half a shoulder, maybe 3 legs visable. I just inquired on a paint horse and asked for more pictures and they were just as bad as the ones in her ad.
I do think you can get much better pictures just tying them up. Might take a few tries but it would be a much better option than a lot of the ones I see. Plus I learned the hard way when someone send me zero pictures of it tied. Said it tied, drove to OK and it didnt tie.
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-03-03 3:43 PM
What gets me is the "today only" price, do people really fall for that?? I guarantee that if the horse is still available the next day they would take your $$.
Its funny that you say that. I sell horses from time to time, and sometimes for other people. But Every once in a while, I will put a "On Sale for this week only" because it does get more attention and I only do that if it is a drastic price drop. And it has worked very well, sold the last 2 within the week. (in one case I did it because I honestly believed the seller would back out within a week.) But I understand your point. |
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| christylynn89 - 2016-03-03 2:48 PM
Sorry guys, I'm going to vent a little bit. Is is just me or has Facebook Advertising for horses majorly gone down hill? It just seems like everyone is posting- even children/teenagers are posting horses for sale and most of the ads just seem like they are more for a popularity contest instead of people actually posting horses for sale? It might be because I'm a Photographer and I studied Advertising in College, but people are posting horrible sale photos and descriptions of these horses. I mean snap chat photos? Seriously! Is it that hard to take a nice conformation photo of your horse? Most phones have decent cameras nowadays! I think it is really frustrating for sellers who actually put effort in their advertisements and want/need to sell their horse. It's annoying to have these poorly thought-out ads flooding the group pages. I personally just skip through those ads without even looking at the horse. Has anyone else noticed this? Maybe I should just delete some of the For Sale groups! I guess one positive thing is it is easy entertainment
It drives me crazy too! When I sell a horse, i take at lease 30-40 pictures and then sit down and delete the ones that dont look good! And end up with 3-4 really good ones and those are what I go with. It also helps to know how to take a picture. Im not a photographer by any means, but I have been taking pictures of horses for long enough to know not to take a picture "head on"! lol |
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| I remember having to stand up so many horses for sale pictures for trainers over the years.
I'm a grown up and I want to deal with grown ups, so honestly if the ad sounds like it was written by a 12 year old, unless I REALLY see something I like, I'll pass.
Same goes for selling a horse - I've had mine advertised on and off on a few FB pages and I'll stalk a person who comments if I think they're 12 years old to see how seriously I want to take them.
The thing that annoys me the most is when you get down to communicating with someone and they can't type in proper English or feel the need to put "LOL" into sentences all over the place.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | horsiace1025 - 2016-03-03 4:47 PM christylynn89 - 2016-03-03 2:48 PM Sorry guys, I'm going to vent a little bit. Is is just me or has Facebook Advertising for horses majorly gone down hill? It just seems like everyone is posting- even children/teenagers are posting horses for sale and most of the ads just seem like they are more for a popularity contest instead of people actually posting horses for sale? It might be because I'm a Photographer and I studied Advertising in College, but people are posting horrible sale photos and descriptions of these horses. I mean snap chat photos? Seriously! Is it that hard to take a nice conformation photo of your horse? Most phones have decent cameras nowadays! I think it is really frustrating for sellers who actually put effort in their advertisements and want/need to sell their horse. It's annoying to have these poorly thought-out ads flooding the group pages. I personally just skip through those ads without even looking at the horse. Has anyone else noticed this? Maybe I should just delete some of the For Sale groups! I guess one positive thing is it is easy entertainment It drives me crazy too! When I sell a horse, i take at lease 30-40 pictures and then sit down and delete the ones that dont look good! And end up with 3-4 really good ones and those are what I go with. It also helps to know how to take a picture. Im not a photographer by any means, but I have been taking pictures of horses for long enough to know not to take a picture "head on"! lol
Same here, I tie them to the fence or trailer and take a crap ton of shots to get a handful of decent ones. If you pull their tail enough times, they will eventually stand on all 4 feet long enough to snap a few.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Well I had my friend come out to help me take pictures. They are super hairy, will be 1 in May but they go to pasture before that if they are still unsold. I can't get anyone to get serious. I'm not asking a crazy amount, but this is one of the neatest fillies we have raised so I won't give her away. And you can't beat her name lol. Meet Sixy Runway Model.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | teebluesage - 2016-03-04 6:05 AM She looks like a real nice filly and your price seems reasonable to me. There's a lot of ads for young ones. I wonder if anybody is having much luck selling theirs. Seems like most people only want to pay much for one that's riding.
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| I saw on on craigslist the other day and the pics were terrible but the questionable part were the papers. They showed the horse to be AQHA and Palomino horse breeders registered and the horse was BROWN. The Palomino registry is a color registry-- PERIOD. Made me wonder if the horse even had the correct papers. I could not see the papers well enough to see on the AQHA pares if it was registered as a palomino. |
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Location: SW North Dakota | A decent picture is the best time (or money) you can ever spend. It's your "first impression" in many cases. It isn't too hard to take them, especially if you have a good helper and some sunshine. Stand the horse so the sun is perfectly perpendicular to the horse. If you are using a cell phone or a point and shoot camera, step back far enough to help eliminate distortion. Aim your camera right behind the elbow of the horse, making sure your camera is exactly parrallel to the horse. TRy to set both outside legs toward the middle of the horse and both nearside legs "outside" without having them wadded up or stretched out. Now you can see all 4 legs and feet (mow the grass, or stand them on a solid surface when possible). This is your basic side angle confirmation shot. The horses' heads and necks look best if you can tip to face toward you just so you can see the eye "bump" of the off side eye. (get another helper with a squeaky dog toy or a mirror) IMO, this shot should be included on every sale ad. Candids don't really turn me off, unless they are useless selfies with only the horse's distorted face and the owner's face. Like others have said, bad photos do NO GOOD in selling your horse most of the time- unless you've caught them doing something really spectacular (like walking up to a lion or something). I'm kinda passionate about this subject. $200 for a professional photo is probably the best money you'll ever spend. Attached are a couple examples... The head shot I'd only use as a second photo. The horses included are a mixed bag- the grey is a kids' horse, a broodmare and a pretty expensive stallion. The head shot is one of our ranch horses.
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| OP, you are so right. One of the pages I follow is "barrel racing tack/horse swap". It is HORRIBLE!! The other day a girl had a "1D horse for sale, $1000". The video showed a horse that couldnt have been more than green broke, much less experience on the pattern as it went almost everywhere but around the barrel. A friend of mine posted a well bred started prospect the other day and the tire kicking and silly questions were almost too much. I realize there are a lot of young people on there. A lot of arguing takes place between the posters as well. I would be very reluctant to post a horse for sale on that site for those reasons.
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Location: N Texas | scwebster - 2016-03-04 9:00 AM
OP, you are so right. One of the pages I follow is "barrel racing tack/horse swap". It is HORRIBLE!! The other day a girl had a "1D horse for sale, $1000". The video showed a horse that couldnt have been more than green broke, much less experience on the pattern as it went almost everywhere but around the barrel. A friend of mine posted a well bred started prospect the other day and the tire kicking and silly questions were almost too much. I realize there are a lot of young people on there. A lot of arguing takes place between the posters as well. I would be very reluctant to post a horse for sale on that site for those reasons.
That group is a joke. I had to stop following it because it became less about selling stuff and more about message board type stuff like "what color for my horse?" or "what do you think of my new horse?"
The ads that bug me are the ones that have just a head shot and the description says "message for more info". Wouldn't it take way less time to put all the info in the ad instead of replying to each person who messages you? I don't get it. It's kind of like online dating profiles--if you can't take the time to put some effort into it, why should you expect anyone to be interested? |
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| Pictures do speak a thousand words!! The poster who listed 3 nice side shots, I feel like you know your stuff, your horses must be nice and you'd be a good seller. That's a little bit nuts because I don't know you from anyone! Vs. someone who takes a "head-on" shot with as much tack on their horse as possbile and you can't even pretend to know what they look like.
Buying horses is such a pain in the butt, I'm learning it's best to seek out reputable sellers FIRST rather than a horse. You just never know who's straight up lying to you! The horror stories on here lately make you want to never buy again.
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Location: Kentucky | spitzh - 2016-03-04 2:51 PM Ive seen ads for 3D-4D barrel horses $20k. Really? I can make a 3D/4D barrel horse from a BLM mustang. I find it entertaining. I think it depends on the area on how certain division horses are priced. A 20k horse in KY is not the same as in TX. Saying just any horse can be 3D/4D is a little undermining.
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| I just bought a horse, not one I found on FB btw lol, and yeah the ads the photos the info were bad on most. What killed me was people couldn't be bothered to email or return calls. I have advertised horses for the barn I am at for the last 5 years and thought it was annoying that people would no call no show but now as the buyer I see sellers are often just as bad lol.
One guy changed his mind about the horse being for sale the day before I planned a 6 hour drive to see it only to tell me two weeks later he changed his mind again and she was for sale. Lol
Another lady advertised her horse at $3500 then didn't reply for weeks and when she finally did said the price went up because the horse qualified for sheriffs posse or something and stood around at a expo. I asked what the price was now and it was over 10k lol.
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| When I was looking at one and asked for Picts at first I got a very blurry butt shot as she was walking away. I asked for better pictures and he sent me a butt shot of her tied up lol. You couldn't see her face or shoulder at all I was like well she must not be much to look at from the front lol. Also when I asked how much training she had he replied that he would go pick her up out of the feild and ride her once or twice before I came to see her and that was all the info I could get out of him lol. |
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Really??? You must be quite a hand. Seriously, whether you meant it or not, that was a slap in the face to the average jackpot barrel racer. And I can tell you those horses are every bit as valuable as any other horse because not all people have the capability of riding a 1D horse and are comfortable on one that takes care of them. |
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Location: N Texas | ropenrun - 2016-03-04 6:53 PM
spitzh - 2016-03-04 12:51 PM Ive seen ads for 3D-4D barrel horses $20k. Really? I can make a 3D/4D barrel horse from a BLM mustang. I find it entertaining.
Really??? You must be quite a hand. Seriously, whether you meant it or not, that was a slap in the face to the average jackpot barrel racer. And I can tell you those horses are every bit as valuable as any other horse because not all people have the capability of riding a 1D horse and are comfortable on one that takes care of them.
I also found it very offensive. My horse runs 3D/4D at smaller races and 4D/5D at big races. Granted, he has a lot of room for improvement and he's not firing on all cylinders yet, but to make it seem like it's SO easy to make a 3D horse is just rude. Maybe a 1D horse in her area is the equivalent of a 3D horse where I am? |
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| spitzh - 2016-03-04 1:51 PM
Ive seen ads for 3D-4D barrel horses $20k. Really? I can make a 3D/4D barrel horse from a BLM mustang. I find it entertaining.
That's not nice. Not just ANY horse can run barrels, it is not easy, and it's not ok to look down on people because they are 1-2 seconds off. They love and care for their teammates just as much as 1D people do. We are all barrel racers here, we should support each other. |
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| wishes4kissez - 2016-03-04 6:29 PM
I just bought a horse, not one I found on FB btw lol, and yeah the ads the photos the info were bad on most. What killed me was people couldn't be bothered to email or return calls. I have advertised horses for the barn I am at for the last 5 years and thought it was annoying that people would no call no show but now as the buyer I see sellers are often just as bad lol.
One guy changed his mind about the horse being for sale the day before I planned a 6 hour drive to see it only to tell me two weeks later he changed his mind again and she was for sale. Lol
Another lady advertised her horse at $3500 then didn't reply for weeks and when she finally did said the price went up because the horse qualified for sheriffs posse or something and stood around at a expo. I asked what the price was now and it was over 10k lol.
Horse shopping was a lot less fun than I had imagined going in lol.
This happened to me TWICE in a two week period!
Once the night before I was planning to leave to make a trip out of state to look at a horse, the woman called me and said she just loved him too much and she couldn't sell him. Ok, great. Then less than a week later, as I was pulling out of my driveway to make a few hour drive to look at a colt, the girl calls and says, "You know, I think I've decided I'm not going to budge on his price now. That's not a problem, right?" Uhm, yes it is. Thanks but no thanks, I'll be staying home now.  |
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| ropenrun - 2016-03-04 4:53 PM
spitzh - 2016-03-04 12:51 PM Ive seen ads for 3D-4D barrel horses $20k. Really? I can make a 3D/4D barrel horse from a BLM mustang. I find it entertaining.
Really??? You must be quite a hand. Seriously, whether you meant it or not, that was a slap in the face to the average jackpot barrel racer. And I can tell you those horses are every bit as valuable as any other horse because not all people have the capability of riding a 1D horse and are comfortable on one that takes care of them.
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Location: N Texas | rpreast - 2016-03-07 10:36 AM
wishes4kissez - 2016-03-04 6:29 PM
I just bought a horse, not one I found on FB btw lol, and yeah the ads the photos the info were bad on most. What killed me was people couldn't be bothered to email or return calls. I have advertised horses for the barn I am at for the last 5 years and thought it was annoying that people would no call no show but now as the buyer I see sellers are often just as bad lol.
One guy changed his mind about the horse being for sale the day before I planned a 6 hour drive to see it only to tell me two weeks later he changed his mind again and she was for sale. Lol
Another lady advertised her horse at $3500 then didn't reply for weeks and when she finally did said the price went up because the horse qualified for sheriffs posse or something and stood around at a expo. I asked what the price was now and it was over 10k lol.
Horse shopping was a lot less fun than I had imagined going in lol.
This happened to me TWICE in a two week period!
Once the night before I was planning to leave to make a trip out of state to look at a horse, the woman called me and said she just loved him too much and she couldn't sell him. Ok, great. Then less than a week later, as I was pulling out of my driveway to make a few hour drive to look at a colt, the girl calls and says, "You know, I think I've decided I'm not going to budge on his price now. That's not a problem, right?" Uhm, yes it is. Thanks but no thanks, I'll be staying home now.
Something similar happened to my sister, but with alpacas. She told the lady she was coming to buy them, they agreed on a day and time, and while my sister was on her way WITH a trailer, the lady called and said she just had someone pay for them through Paypal, so they were sold. My sister was so mad! She told the lady if she would have known that, that she would have paid through Paypal first, but assumed cash would've been fine. She was going to pay the full asking price, but maybe the other person offered her more money? Really crummy to do someone like that. |
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If I am browsing I can easily tell if the horse runs on a similar circuit as me.
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Location: East Texas | spitzh - 2016-03-07 10:39 AM
ropenrun - 2016-03-04 4:53 PM
spitzh - 2016-03-04 12:51 PM Ive seen ads for 3D-4D barrel horses $20k. Really? I can make a 3D/4D barrel horse from a BLM mustang. I find it entertaining.
Really??? You must be quite a hand. Seriously, whether you meant it or not, that was a slap in the face to the average jackpot barrel racer. And I can tell you those horses are every bit as valuable as any other horse because not all people have the capability of riding a 1D horse and are comfortable on one that takes care of them.
Relax. I was kidding but I do see horses priced really high when they shouldn't be.
Easy kids.... don't think spitzh was trying to hurt your feelings. Just saying most would not pay $20K for a 4D horse. |
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| scwebster - 2016-03-04 9:00 AM
OP, you are so right. One of the pages I follow is "barrel racing tack/horse swap". It is HORRIBLE!! The other day a girl had a "1D horse for sale, $1000". The video showed a horse that couldnt have been more than green broke, much less experience on the pattern as it went almost everywhere but around the barrel. A friend of mine posted a well bred started prospect the other day and the tire kicking and silly questions were almost too much. I realize there are a lot of young people on there. A lot of arguing takes place between the posters as well. I would be very reluctant to post a horse for sale on that site for those reasons.
I follow that page too. My deal is these '1D horses' selling for cheap. As soon as I see the price all I can think is I wonder what's wrong with him. I just love how the seller says, I just don't have time for him, that's why he's priced low. Hmmmm red flag for me. |
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| Warriors Mom - 2016-03-08 4:03 PM
I must be the one taking the horrible pictures and posting all over facebook.... i have not been able to get one horse sold in almost a year!!! Do ya'll just start giving them away at some point? I have stepped back and tried to re-evaluate however I can not come up with reasons why I am such a horrid sells person.
I've had a hard time selling one of mine too. Even though secretly I hate to sell her, but I need the money. It bugs me when everyone comments on these ads where the pics are awful, horse looks bad and then I'm posting decent pics with full info and can barely get a few comments. |
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Location: N Texas | pepsi97 - 2016-03-09 10:27 AM scwebster - 2016-03-04 9:00 AM OP, you are so right. One of the pages I follow is "barrel racing tack/horse swap". It is HORRIBLE!! The other day a girl had a "1D horse for sale, $1000". The video showed a horse that couldnt have been more than green broke, much less experience on the pattern as it went almost everywhere but around the barrel. A friend of mine posted a well bred started prospect the other day and the tire kicking and silly questions were almost too much. I realize there are a lot of young people on there. A lot of arguing takes place between the posters as well. I would be very reluctant to post a horse for sale on that site for those reasons. I follow that page too. My deal is these '1D horses' selling for cheap. As soon as I see the price all I can think is I wonder what's wrong with him. I just love how the seller says, I just don't have time for him, that's why he's priced low. Hmmmm red flag for me.
Or "Selling because I don't have time for him" and then two sentences later "may consider trades for xyz horse". Ok, if you don't have time for the horse you're selling, how will you have time for the horse you're trading for? Really the only exception is if they're selling a young unbroke or green horse that needs lots of consistent riding, and want to trade it for a good, solid trail horse that is fine being ridden only occasionally. But if they're selling a "finished" horse because they "don't have time", but want to trade for another horse, that's a huge red flag. |
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Location: Oklahoma | rodeomom3 - 2016-03-03 3:43 PM
What gets me is the "today only" price, do people really fall for that?? I guarantee that if the horse is still available the next day they would take your $$.
Actually, some people mean it. I price my horses very reasonably when I first get them. I figure if I can turn them and make a hundred or two, it's been a good week. However, if I keep them and do dental, shoeing, vet work, and a month of riding and tuning in them, they're not going to be that cheap. I had a lady that wanted a specific kind of horse for a set amount. I found her one and told her that price would be good until the end of February. She said she just couldn't make it here by then and told me she was going to be here the first weekend in March. I told her the price would be higher by then. She called me on the third of March and asked if she could still buy the horse for the price she wanted. I told her no, the price expired in February. She still came and bought a horse, but it was higher priced than what she originally wanted to pay. I had found out the horse was really way underpriced for what it was, and since she didn't put a deposit to hold it, and I really liked the horse, I wasn't going to let her have it for the lower price. Plus, I had more money in it by then. So that doesn't always work with every seller. Depends on how bad they want to sell it. Catch me on the right day, and they might be cheaper! lol |
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Location: Oklahoma | spitzh - 2016-03-04 1:51 PM
Ive seen ads for 3D-4D barrel horses $20k. Really? I can make a 3D/4D barrel horse from a BLM mustang. I find it entertaining.
I was stupid and answered an ISO ad with a horse that runs 17's on a standard when he's out of shape. Top notch breeding and paid in full to Future Fortunes. I was told he was too slow and that she could run faster than that on her American Saddlebred.
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| Things that just kill me about Facebook Sale Posts:
ISO ads obviously posted by high school or even middle school kids... There was one boy who posted in a calf roping page I swear once a week about things he was in search of. His profile picture was in his FFA get-up. So many people wasted their time replying... It was apparent he wasn't buying anything.
ISO posts on pages not specified to a certain area. "looking for this, must be within an hour of Somewherein, TX." Ummm can you not ask around? LOL why are you posting on the WORLD WIDE WEB??
People who make excuses in their ISO ads of why they can't spend "a lot" Oh, you're a college student? Let me reduce the price in half for you...WHAT?
Pretty much all ISO ads.... haha. I know they are harmless and I can just scroll past them, but goodness they drive me nuts!
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Location: **Cactus Country down in South Texas*** | I get a kick out of reading some of the ads , I saw an ad the other day that stated she was selling a horse she trained for cutting, but doesnt know how to ride a cutter, and was looking to trade for finished horse |
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Location: Northwest Florida | pepsi97 - 2016-03-09 10:27 AM scwebster - 2016-03-04 9:00 AM OP, you are so right. One of the pages I follow is "barrel racing tack/horse swap". It is HORRIBLE!! The other day a girl had a "1D horse for sale, $1000". The video showed a horse that couldnt have been more than green broke, much less experience on the pattern as it went almost everywhere but around the barrel. A friend of mine posted a well bred started prospect the other day and the tire kicking and silly questions were almost too much. I realize there are a lot of young people on there. A lot of arguing takes place between the posters as well. I would be very reluctant to post a horse for sale on that site for those reasons. I follow that page too. My deal is these '1D horses' selling for cheap. As soon as I see the price all I can think is I wonder what's wrong with him. I just love how the seller says, I just don't have time for him, that's why he's priced low. Hmmmm red flag for me.
Or how about a $1000 1D horse or trade for another 1D horse... "Selling because we just don't click" |
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| CarrieH77 - 2016-03-08 5:24 PM I think we should just have a BHW swap page...I've been trying to sell a "special needs" filly, bred very well by a son of Panther Mountain and I have her priced accordingly. Got a ton of inquiries and then they drop off the face of the earth. I know she might not fit your requirements but seriously can you just message me back that thanks but no thanks? It's annoying to me.
ok dumb question what is special needs filly mean? |
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Location: Northwest Florida | vjls - 2016-03-11 9:39 AM
CarrieH77 - 2016-03-08 5:24 PM I think we should just have a BHW swap page...I've been trying to sell a "special needs" filly, bred very well by a son of Panther Mountain and I have her priced accordingly. Got a ton of inquiries and then they drop off the face of the earth. I know she might not fit your requirements but seriously can you just message me back that thanks but no thanks? It's annoying to me.
ok dumb question what is special needs filly mean?
I assumed maintenance..? |
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Location: High heels in the air... | I haven't advertised mine yet and we don't always click. It IS because I travel for a living and cannot ride every day (hard to pack one in a suitcase!!!). I'm hit or miss with my horses so I understand when someone doesn't "click" with one. I once had a top horse and I couldn't win a dime on him yet everyone else could!! So, I always give the seller the benefit of the doubt. |
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Location: Oklahoma | FB is FLOODED with horse ads and groups. It takes some serious shopping to find what you want after weeding through a lot of the junk that is out there. Then there are some people that just do not take the time to get good photos and info, so you can find a really nice one if you can look past all of the "clutter". Most of what I read in ads, I throw out and draw my own conclusions.
I haven't had a lot of luck on BHW since 2009 selling horses. Most have sold through FB or referral clients. The groups are getting more and more flooded though. Makes shopping more difficult.
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| I just sold a nice filly on FB-I'm like others though- haven't sold anything off BHW in some time. But some of the FB ads are terrible! The pictures and the spelling-OMG the spelling!!!! |
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| I'm thinking of posting one on Facebook I got a mare because she wasn't being Fed now she's gained and will make nice barrel horse |
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