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Location: The South | What is a stereotype that you hear or think of when you hear about a certain line?
For example, Peppy San Badger's are buckers, but really smart. Dash for Cash's are hot hot hot!
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Now this is just a thread for some fun. It's raining forever here in South Arkansas and Northern Louisiana... Most of our shows are cancelled for the weekend... So let's just have a fun chat. Let's not get panties in a wad okay?
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| Dash Ta Fame's are idiots with lots of speed. Hot Hot Hot.
Mr Jess Perry's are gorgeous, fast, but wicked attitudes. I've never seen an ugly MJP, nor have I met one with a nice personality.
Firewater Flits are very user friendly, athletic, and have good heads on them. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Can't trust Hancocks, they are mean buckers but hard workers. |
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| Proudest Efforts are crazy fast, but impossibly hot and hard to train. |
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| I've heard that Calyx horses are mean. My Calyx granddaughter is super sweet though. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cecollins0811 - 2016-03-11 12:55 PM
Can't trust Hancocks, they are mean buckers but hard workers.
Hancock mares are cranky and we've all heard about explosive Impressive horses. |
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| Had a Special Effort gelding, super nice temperament, in your pocket type of personality. Easy to train but he wasn't a trail horse by any means. He was all work in the arena but a nervous wreak trail riding. I could take him to a professional rodeo and he wouldn't bat an eye at anything (i.e. bulls, noises, etc) but if a bunny jumped out while on a trail he would spook.
I heard of Firewater Flits being the "go to" breed when training. |
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Location: North Texas | spitzh - 2016-03-11 2:04 PM Had a Special Effort gelding, super nice temperament, in your pocket type of personality. Easy to train but he wasn't a trail horse by any means. He was all work in the arena but a nervous wreak trail riding. I could take him to a professional rodeo and he wouldn't bat an eye at anything (i.e. bulls, noises, etc) but if a bunny jumped out while on a trail he would spook. I heard of Firewater Flits being the "go to" breed when training.
Funny you say that, I've had several Special Efforts that were all the same way. They had phenomenal personalities but scared of their shadows unless they were making a run. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I've heard Hancock, Music Mount, and Impressive are known for bucking. Unfortunately I know 3 horses that support the stereotype haaha. But they were all hard workers with puppy dog personalities on the ground.
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Location: Northwest Florida | cecollins0811 - 2016-03-11 12:55 PM
Can't trust Hancocks, they are mean buckers but hard workers.
Definitely heard this one! I did have an ApHC Hancock gelding once though that was the absolute best little youth rode mount. There are exceptions to every rule! But the bucking Hancock is definitely a rule! |
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| dkcowgirl - 2016-03-11 2:24 PM
spitzh - 2016-03-11 2:04 PM Had a Special Effort gelding, super nice temperament, in your pocket type of personality. Easy to train but he wasn't a trail horse by any means. He was all work in the arena but a nervous wreak trail riding. I could take him to a professional rodeo and he wouldn't bat an eye at anything (i.e. bulls, noises, etc) but if a bunny jumped out while on a trail he would spook. I heard of Firewater Flits being the "go to" breed when training.
Funny you say that, I've had several Special Efforts that were all the same way. They had phenomenal personalities but scared of their shadows unless they were making a run.
My special effort gelding is a putz and nothing phases him. He will make a good kids horse. Based off how he is built tho, he's one where you "breed the best to the best and hope for the best" but hoping wasnt enough..he's rather sorry looking :)
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I also have a great granddaughter of Dash for Cash (through Barrymore) and I wouldnt call her hot but if you don't have her mentally checked into you she's not very fun to ride. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | tj135 - 2016-03-11 1:46 PM I've heard that Calyx horses are mean. My Calyx granddaughter is super sweet though.
We have a Calyx grand daughter and she is the sweetest thing also. Topsails Reinmaker's have a ton of run, huge ego's but sensitive and a work ethic as big as Texas. They are all like this. Awsome horses. Our Firewaterontherocks is very sweet and kind and very easy. Everything with him is okey dokey and he takes training very well. He's a no drama kind of guy. |
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Location: Texas | BigStarBound - 2016-03-11 3:25 PM cecollins0811 - 2016-03-11 12:55 PM Can't trust Hancocks, they are mean buckers but hard workers. Definitely heard this one! I did have an ApHC Hancock gelding once though that was the absolute best little youth rode mount. There are exceptions to every rule! But the bucking Hancock is definitely a rule!
We have 2 full brothers that are Hancock bred. They are huge boys and rarely get ridden but are so gentle. If you are working in the pasture, you have to lock them up or they will harass you for attention. Sweet, sweet boys. I don't think either has ever bucked. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | RocketPilot - 2016-03-11 4:59 PM
BigStarBound - 2016-03-11 3:25 PM cecollins0811 - 2016-03-11 12:55 PM Can't trust Hancocks, they are mean buckers but hard workers. Definitely heard this one! I did have an ApHC Hancock gelding once though that was the absolute best little youth rode mount. There are exceptions to every rule! But the bucking Hancock is definitely a rule!
Wanna trade? Lol my Hancock is exactly like the stereotype...sadly. |
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Location: texas | I have a 4yo mare, Playgun bred on top and Doc O Lena/Two Eyed Jack on the bottom, she is a "cold backed" little thing...
I have been told its the Playgun and Two Eyed Jack
She likes to talk back alot too (i.e. Tail swishing, ****y attitude) when asked to do stuff, she is on lazy side.... |
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Location: texas | I also have a daughter out of Flits First Fling by Flit to Kill and her dam is own daughter of Flaming Jet
She is an overachiever, u ask her to jump, she says how high and did u want it yesterday lol....
Got her when she was 4yo she is fixing to turn 10yo and foal out any day now....
My young dtr, 8yo, showed her in 4h in halter, showmanship, walk/trot pleasure, along with the speed events, she took to it all very well..... |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | I have a grand of Peppy San Badger and she is my all time favorite horse to ride. No buck what so ever. |
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| soonergirl98 - 2016-03-11 11:43 PM
I have a grand of Peppy San Badger and she is my all time favorite horse to ride. No buck what so ever.
I worked with a PSB gelding, and he was a super mellow guy, not a buck in him. There are always exceptions to stereotypes. |
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| I have always heard that First Down Dash were super smart and athletic. I own 2 grandsons, 1/2 brothers by same sire. They are incredibly smart and athletic. The oldest is out of a daughter of Reckless Dash and a TB mare. He can be emotional and gets strung out if you are. The other is out of an own daughter of Holland Ease and a Shawnee Bug mare. He's the sweetest thing ever but will also get strung out and emotional. HOWEVER, I do think some of it is a human problem early in their lives! |
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| I don't buy into the stereotypes 3/4 generations back. Such as hancock being dirty buckers, there are very few who have Hancock close enough for it to impact.
I have 4 fdd grand babies, only one is semi hot, and she gets that from her daddy, as all mares by that stud have the same personalities/quirks.
I had 2 judge cash mares so dfc grand babies, both are cool as a cat.
I also have a sunfrost granddaughter who as a 3 yr old anyone could ride her maturity level is old.
Personally I look at the sire and dam's behaviour in addition to the offspring they have produced to give me an idea of what the colt will be like, and train accordingly.
Most of the stereotypes can be prevented if the horse goes into the appropriate hands. I have had a few that would have been blow ups if they were thumped on, and looking at the other "siblings" by the same stud or out of the same mare I have seen the behaviour has been passed down by one or the other. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | I vaguely remember a Bedueno stereotype. Something like if you push them too hard too fast they really blow up on you? |
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| cecollins0811 - 2016-03-12 2:24 PM I vaguely remember a Bedueno stereotype. Something like if you push them too hard too fast they really blow up on you?
I'm one of those who doesn't like Beduino's. I won't even own one with him on the papers. To each their own but nope, not for me. Not a fan.  |
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| Agree about MJP's being pretty, smart, and kind! Mine is the easiest filly ever, not a ton of personality but she's growing into it! At 4 I would let anyone on her.
I will say this---Im learning a lot about PSSM and I really think a lot of bloodlines carry either type 1 or type 2 (which no one ever tests for type 2) and I can't help but think a lot of these lines are carriers! I know of a few popular horses that are carriers and not many people know that and although a lot of personality traits come from bloodlines, think about all of the other reasons a horse would act out too  |
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Location: Where you need a paddle... Oregon! | I've heard the TEJ's are buckers, but I have a 14 year old that's TEJ on both the top and bottom and she wouldn't buck if she thought she'd pull a check doing it. She is kind of lazy, but has plenty of speed and likes to do speed events. She's quiet and only needs a small warm up and a lope both ways. Walks in and out of the arena on a loose rein with her head down. She's just fast going over the timer and coming back past it.
I ran into a gal last night who has an 11 year old gelding - same sire different dam. She said she can't get him to run for nothing, but he's a great trail horse and quiet as can be.
The lady who owned the stallion and the mare kept a gelding - same dam different sire and he was a terrible counterfeit bucker. Would ride fine for awhile and then spook at a shadow and turn into a renegade.
Had a Doc Bar, TEJ mare for a few years and she was hot, hot, hot. Super fast, a little fragile-minded, might buck if she was fresh and felt like she was not being allowed to do what she wanted. Sold her last year. She's 9 now and still hot as a 2 dollar pistol with her new owner.
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Location: SE Louisiana | cheryl makofka - 2016-03-12 10:47 AM
I don't buy into the stereotypes 3/4 generations back. Such as hancock being dirty buckers, there are very few who have Hancock close enough for it to impact.
I have 4 fdd grand babies, only one is semi hot, and she gets that from her daddy, as all mares by that stud have the same personalities/quirks.
I had 2 judge cash mares so dfc grand babies, both are cool as a cat.
I also have a sunfrost granddaughter who as a 3 yr old anyone could ride her maturity level is old.
Personally I look at the sire and dam's behaviour in addition to the offspring they have produced to give me an idea of what the colt will be like, and train accordingly.
Most of the stereotypes can be prevented if the horse goes into the appropriate hands. I have had a few that would have been blow ups if they were thumped on, and looking at the other "siblings" by the same stud or out of the same mare I have seen the behaviour has been passed down by one or the other.
If physical characteristics can carry that many generation, why not other things? |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-12 2:49 AM
soonergirl98 - 2016-03-11 11:43 PM
I have a grand of Peppy San Badger and she is my all time favorite horse to ride. No buck what so ever.
I worked with a PSB gelding, and he was a super mellow guy, not a buck in him. There are always exceptions to stereotypes.
My 21 year old PSB gd bucked with me just last week. She is a sweetheart, but if she feels good she will get a little goosey. It's not meaness, and not a hard buck. I was happy she still felt that good, it's been a long time since she did it. She's also my favorite, but a little on the hot side. |
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| quikchik - 2016-03-14 8:01 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-12 2:49 AM soonergirl98 - 2016-03-11 11:43 PM I have a grand of Peppy San Badger and she is my all time favorite horse to ride. No buck what so ever. I worked with a PSB gelding, and he was a super mellow guy, not a buck in him. There are always exceptions to stereotypes. My 21 year old PSB gd bucked with me just last week. She is a sweetheart, but if she feels good she will get a little goosey. It's not meaness, and not a hard buck. I was happy she still felt that good, it's been a long time since she did it. She's also my favorite, but a little on the hot side.
Add my mare to the stereotype...LOL she is greatgd of PSB top and he is also a few gens back on the bottom side....every spring first ride back....she will buck - not mean, but bucks big, 6 or 7 leaps, then she is good for the year. She's been like this since I've had her at 4 and she is 9 now.
My father in laws PSB mare....now she will buck....buck you off any day of the week if she feels like it. Not my favorite horse by any means, LOL.
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spitzh - 2016-03-11 2:04 PM Had a Special Effort gelding, super nice temperament, in your pocket type of personality. Easy to train but he wasn't a trail horse by any means. He was all work in the arena but a nervous wreak trail riding. I could take him to a professional rodeo and he wouldn't bat an eye at anything (i.e. bulls, noises, etc) but if a bunny jumped out while on a trail he would spook. I heard of Firewater Flits being the "go to" breed when training.
Funny you say that, I've had several Special Efforts that were all the same way. They had phenomenal personalities but scared of their shadows unless they were making a run.
My special effort gelding is a putz and nothing phases him. He will make a good kids horse. Based off how he is built tho, he's one where you "breed the best to the best and hope for the best" but hoping wasnt enough..he's rather sorry looking : )
Very neat to hear how similar they are...My Special Effort is dead to the world 99% of the time but there is that 1% spook that will show up every now and then. And it could be something so minor like a branch moving in the woods! Plus he's a sensitive boy. If I yell at him or swat him on the but he pouts like a child.
My mom had a Hancock mare that was awesome. She could go from running a set of barrels to showing in a pleasure class but she was a one in million anyways.
I had a Beduino gelding that was big and beautiful...thank god he had that going for him because he was POS otherwise.
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We need an acronym legend. When people use acronyms when it comes to studs, MOST of the time, I haven't a CLUE who they are talking about - but I'm SLOW like that!
Me too! I've been racking my brain all morning for what TEJ means?!?!?
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Location: SE Louisiana | IdahoBarrelRacer756 - 2016-03-14 11:14 AM
Griz - 2016-03-14 10:04 AM
We need an acronym legend. When people use acronyms when it comes to studs, MOST of the time, I haven't a CLUE who they are talking about - but I'm SLOW like that!
Me too! I've been racking my brain all morning for what TEJ means?!?!?
Something Easy Jet?
That's what Google is for... just be sure to enter the word 'Stallion'. (but even I know that TEJ is Two Eyed Jack)
Notice how they violated his tail....
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Location: texas | Lady - 2016-03-12 10:39 PM
I've heard the TEJ's are buckers, but I have a 14 year old that's TEJ on both the top and bottom and she wouldn't buck if she thought she'd pull a check doing it. She is kind of lazy, but has plenty of speed and likes to do speed events. She's quiet and only needs a small warm up and a lope both ways. Walks in and out of the arena on a loose rein with her head down. She's just fast going over the timer and coming back past it.
I ran into a gal last night who has an 11 year old gelding - same sire different dam. She said she can't get him to run for nothing, but he's a great trail horse and quiet as can be.
The lady who owned the stallion and the mare kept a gelding - same dam different sire and he was a terrible counterfeit bucker. Would ride fine for awhile and then spook at a shadow and turn into a renegade.
Had a Doc Bar, TEJ mare for a few years and she was hot, hot, hot. Super fast, a little fragile-minded, might buck if she was fresh and felt like she was not being allowed to do what she wanted. Sold her last year. She's 9 now and still hot as a 2 dollar pistol with her new owner.
This right here....
My 4yo bay mare is lazy, walks around w nose in dirt, i have to make her be up on the bit, will walk n and out of the arena after running a set, she got the gas n the tank but dont like to use it.... And ya u could run speed events then turn around and show halter and showmanship w her....
She is not my kind of horse, i prefer little hot over lazy and having to ask for every step, to me thats not fun....
She is for sale, any takers????? She is a gorgeous bay :)
She is a product of OSU vet school breeding program, have had zero luck finding out any info on her dam and sire :(
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Here's my opinion on lines. And yes, I have owned and ridden and trained for right at 20 years now, with extensive research into lines the last several years as an adult.
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Skipper W - COULD NOT PAY me to own another one of these little cheats. Sneaky smart bastards, but mean too.
Peppy San Badger - I have two in my barn, and it is my absolute favorite line. I love their looks, their bone and their personalities. The mare was a bucker when I got her as a 6 year old, and I had to use a LOT of patience to get her to the point she is now at 8. Once upon a time, when you got on her, you'd best be prepared for a hump in her back for a good 5 minutes until she relaxed. Now she rides off on a lose rein with no back hump what-so-ever and I trust her enough to ride her with my coming 3 year old daughter in front of me in the saddle wherever we want to go... show, trails, etc. But it took a TON of patience to get her there. My 13 year old gelding is a local 1D champ and has done well in the super shows in the past running 2D against some of the same horses he beats at home. He does not do enclosed coliseums for whatever reason. No buck to him unless he's feeling really good and then it's just a pop and back to work. Both of them are workers and smart at figuring out whatever I want them to do.
Dash for Cash - I have been around several... Most of them are too hot for me. My sister has a Dash for Perks son that is an exception to the rule because of his dam I think. His maternal half sister is a Corona Cartel grand-daughter and she's also very quiet and easy to train. I don't care for Dashing Seis most of the time, but with maturity they get better. I am breeding to a Dash Ta Fame son this spring who has a very easy going personality and his owner lets her daughter run him at big shows.
Doc Bar - Usually they are too far back, but I've been around two that were on the papers. Not my favorite line, but most horses have a touch of it, so whatever.
Poco Bueno/Poco Tivio - Seem to be hard workers and easy to work with. Calm down very quickly after a workout.
Two Eyed Jack - No thank you. Sister has one that is very intelligent, but squirrelly at shows. Very on the muscle. Used to be a renegade, but she took a lot of time to get him where he is currently. Very much a 1 person horse.
Grey Badger II - We had a mare that was a granddaughter. She was a 1 person horse period and very quirky about several things like tying and loading and running barrels, but she was one of the most powerful horses I've ever thrown a leg over even at 22 years old when I got to high lope her across a pasture.
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Location: Central Washington | spitzh - 2016-03-11 12:04 PM Had a Special Effort gelding, super nice temperament, in your pocket type of personality. Easy to train but he wasn't a trail horse by any means. He was all work in the arena but a nervous wreak trail riding. I could take him to a professional rodeo and he wouldn't bat an eye at anything (i.e. bulls, noises, etc) but if a bunny jumped out while on a trail he would spook. I heard of Firewater Flits being the "go to" breed when training.
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Location: Where you need a paddle... Oregon! | teamthompson - 2016-03-14 1:18 PM
Lady - 2016-03-12 10:39 PM
I've heard the TEJ's are buckers, but I have a 14 year old that's TEJ on both the top and bottom and she wouldn't buck if she thought she'd pull a check doing it. She is kind of lazy, but has plenty of speed and likes to do speed events. She's quiet and only needs a small warm up and a lope both ways. Walks in and out of the arena on a loose rein with her head down. She's just fast going over the timer and coming back past it.
I ran into a gal last night who has an 11 year old gelding - same sire different dam. She said she can't get him to run for nothing, but he's a great trail horse and quiet as can be.
The lady who owned the stallion and the mare kept a gelding - same dam different sire and he was a terrible counterfeit bucker. Would ride fine for awhile and then spook at a shadow and turn into a renegade.
Had a Doc Bar, TEJ mare for a few years and she was hot, hot, hot. Super fast, a little fragile-minded, might buck if she was fresh and felt like she was not being allowed to do what she wanted. Sold her last year. She's 9 now and still hot as a 2 dollar pistol with her new owner.
This right here....
My 4yo bay mare is lazy, walks around w nose in dirt, i have to make her be up on the bit, will walk n and out of the arena after running a set, she got the gas n the tank but dont like to use it.... And ya u could run speed events then turn around and show halter and showmanship w her....
She is not my kind of horse, i prefer little hot over lazy and having to ask for every step, to me thats not fun....
She is for sale, any takers????? She is a gorgeous bay : )
She is a product of OSU vet school breeding program, have had zero luck finding out any info on her dam and sire : (
Holy smokes! She's the look I like :) And I like that temperament also... There are certainly times when I get tired of peddling my mare, I will be honest. But I have an appreciation for a nice horse that can win me money in mounted shooting, win me prizes in all gaming events, that I can snub a soggy sob to and drag, can team pen on, trail ride, camp out overnight, parades, drill team, flag runs, etc. and put my son on to do mounted shooting and then put my 6 year old granddaughter on. She's not the "sweetest" horse - and will pull her head away if you go to pet her, but she's reliable. And she's darned pretty. You could sell your beauty in a heartbeat. |
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| Whiteboy - 2016-03-14 11:36 AM I heard Sun Frosts are too easy to train, Fire Water Flits are too easy to sell and Dash Ta Fames are too fast. But that is just hear-say.
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Location: texas | Where's the "cow bred" peoples input?
What about these?
Iron Bird?????
Flaming Jet????
Bully Bullion???
Bugs Alive in 75???
Its so intetesting, i am enjoying reading this thread
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| Here's my experiences, but I'm NO trainer..just what i've owned over the years.
I currently own a daughter of FG and she's now 7, very very laid back..she sat all winter approx 4 mos, just started legging her back about a month ago and I had a sassy buck and that was it. Very knowledgable, didn't forget a thing she was taught previously. Not hyper by any means.
Had a FWF granddaughter, very turny all business in the arena, sort of high strung outside in general riding
Beduino both top and bottom grandaughter, hot to try and slow work, and on the muscle, but all business and very fast on the pattern. Easy to trail ride!
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Location: Moving soon..... | I will not get an Impressive bred. I have a very good friend that has one that is not what you would think of when looking for horses. He is by an own son of Impressive and gets a check everywhere he goes. He is 19, but does not act like it. |
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Location: OH | teamthompson - 2016-03-14 10:07 PM Where's the "cow bred" peoples input? What about these? Iron Bird????? Flaming Jet???? Bully Bullion??? Bugs Alive in 75??? Its so intetesting, i am enjoying reading this thread
My experience---not an absolute by any means.
Bully Bullion----laid back and user friendly, I have only had four though.
BA-75------Very watchy, and always alert.
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| teamthompson - 2016-03-14 9:07 PM
Where's the "cow bred" peoples input?
What about these?
Iron Bird?????
Flaming Jet????
Bully Bullion???
Bugs Alive in 75???
Its so intetesting, i am enjoying reading this thread
As far as cow bred horses, I've heard the Greys Starlight's take a little longer to mature and can be quirky. I've owned one that fit the stereotype, but have seen a couple who were total dead heads.
Shining Spark's are sensitive. They are smart and super responsive, but it doesn't take much to hurt their feelings and their brains go a mile a minute.
Docs Hickory's have attitudes, but are super athletic. I have a 2 & 3 year old right now that take this stereotype VERY seriously. lol |
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Impressive- I LOVE THEM!!! The mares do not suffer fools well. They are straight rank when they don't like you but workers if they do.
Easy Jet- Not the prettiest, but smart and easy to handle
Jet of Honor- Smart and trainable
DTF- Pretty, fractious, and a bit spindly...I am not a huge DTF fan
Shoot Yeah- I will take a barn full of these guys! Trainable, fast and consistent.
Special Leader- Smart, but need a good patient hand.
No Mas Corona- Not for the faint of heart. Need LOADS of patience, but the most athletic things I have riddenso far and everyone I have spoken to who has one seems to say the same thing.
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Location: So. Cali. | I usually hear the Beduinos are hot and crazy stereotypes. Love all the ones i've had. Yes, could be described as fragile minded and stubborn to a point, but some of the hardest working horses I've had the pleasure of owning.
Merridoc I've heard, and experienced, they are late bloomers (mentally).
Have a friend who believes Colonel Freckles are buckers.
I personally havn't met a, A Regal Choice, I've been overly impressed with. Handful of competitive ones, but the ones I've seen have a screw (or two) loose.
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Location: texas | Oh geeze, no wonder my little mare is so "salty" lol...
She got all the "saucy" ones running thru her veins, hahaha!!
Docs Hickory
Two Eyed Jack
Zan Parr Bar
Peppy San
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Location: texas | What about the running horses???
Panther Mountain?
Storm Cat?
Holy Bart?
Howling Corona?
Rare Cigar?
Paddys Irish Whiskey???
Kool Quick Kid??
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| I have heard Peppy San Badgers are buckers and a little bratty, too smart for their own good. My mare used to fit that stereotype but has mellowed out. She still has her bratty edge and will crow hop every now and then but that's about it. She is SUPER smart as well. Despite what I've said, I would take a barnful!!! |
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| Two eyed Jacks- bitter personalities and buckers
Poco Bueno- Bad feet
Beduino- hot heads
Grays Starlight- jumpy, quirky, & goosey.
Packin Sixes- weak stifles
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| I had an own son of Special Effort- really nice, hard worker, sweet!
I had a gd of peppy san badger o/o a dash for cash/lady bugs moon mare-wonderful! laid back, i let kids ride her as a 4 year old, and could fly, however, she did take a lot longer to "get" the barrel pattern.
Also had a pure cow gelding that had doc olena, colonel freckles, and leo and was the most hard working and had the biggest heart of any horse iv ever owned in your pocket type
had a mare out of an impressive/doc bar dam and she had an attitude but would work all day long if you wanted, and fairly easy to train.
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Racebred horses in a lot of cases are the same way, they are wired a little tighter and need the TIME invested in them. I am currently seasoning a filly that was in race training as a 2 and 3 yr old, they never really got anything done with her because she was just another colt in the barn to them and it was slap a exercise rider on her, hot walker, stall...rinse wash repeat. She got sent home and turned out for 6 months and then I started her. She spent 90 days pasture riding and getting broke, lots of time invested by someone who is a great hand. She is the type that when something scares her she is going somewhere else. I spent most all of last year sitting in a warm up pen with team ropers being team ropers and her trying to come out of her skin. TIME. She was patterened slow and everything was done easy and correct. She is very talented and honestly the sweetest kindest horse we own but it took us putting the time into her, she grew up and matured and let her do it on her schedule. I feel like a lot of time breeding gets blamed for people wanting to rush training and maturity, honestly a lot of time its nots the breeding its the training. Some bloodlines are more user friendly without a doubt.
We own a Mr Jess Perry son, who is easy going, takes everything in stride and so far all of his babies have been the same way. They are born wanting to please. My FIL owns a Corona Cartel son and his babies are ones that need the time invested in them, when people put the time in them they work. |
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| My PSB gelding would buck if he hadn't been ridden in a week or two, never really a hateful "trying to get you off" buck, just enough to be annoying but it did get me to actually ride him consistently lol... he would still hump up almost every day. Id just tack him up and let him trot a circle or two on the lead and he'd stretch out and be fine, but he definitely helped keep the stereotype alive! |
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| teamthompson - 2016-03-15 6:44 PM
What about the running horses???
Panther Mountain?
Storm Cat?
Holy Bart?
Howling Corona?
Rare Cigar?
Paddys Irish Whiskey???
Kool Quick Kid??
I have a mare that goes back to Storm Cat - some of the stereotypes about bad attitudes are true. But man oh man is she smart. She's totally unforgiving, so if you ask her for something and she does it, and you don't immediately take the pressure away, she is furious. But boy is she athletic and fast.
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Freckles Playboy - VERY natural athletes. Ive seen a 14h mare clock 1d and looked like she wasnt even trying
Go Man Go - hot but pleasers.
Two Eyed Jack - Stubborn!!!!!
On the Money Red - I dunno what to say here aside from we DONT match. Had one crazy talented but he just seemed to try on his own terms and he was watchy. If wanted to run nice, he usually won but a lot of times he just loped and dinked around. If you kicked him, he'd trot.
Doc Bar - raised on this bloodline and they were all althetic, sound minded, built to last and hard workers but some had some issues tying up. Knowing what I know now, I bet there was some PSSM or something going on.
Jackie Bee - hard workers but tend to be kinda lazy. Sweet personalities though, I'd own one for a kid in a heartbeat.
ETA... I had a Dash for Cash/Easy Jet Gelding out of Melvin Ranch and he was so sweet. Such a good boy and so safe.
Also had a Raise A Native / Easy Six mare who was fragile minded. But she also went through a lot. She loved me but didnt trust anyone else.
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Location: Kentucky | teamthompson - 2016-03-15 8:44 PM What about the running horses???
Panther Mountain?
Storm Cat?
Holy Bart?
Howling Corona?
Rare Cigar?
Paddys Irish Whiskey???
Kool Quick Kid??
I have a Howelling Corona yearling. Hs is incredibly smart. I repeat - VERY smart. He is still young, but he's impatient. Pouts when he doesn't get his way. He's very friendly. He is crossed on my LHDI mare. I can't wait to see how he performs in the barrel pen. |
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| teamthompson - 2016-03-15 8:44 PM
What about the running horses???
Panther Mountain?
Storm Cat?
Holy Bart?
Howling Corona?
Rare Cigar?
Paddys Irish Whiskey???
Kool Quick Kid??
I just saw Kool Quick Kid the other day, oddly enough. He a sweetie, and drop dead gorgeous. Never hear a bad thing about his colts. |
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BigStarBound - 2016-03-11 3:25 PM cecollins0811 - 2016-03-11 12:55 PM Can't trust Hancocks, they are mean buckers but hard workers. Definitely heard this one! I did have an ApHC Hancock gelding once though that was the absolute best little youth rode mount. There are exceptions to every rule! But the bucking Hancock is definitely a rule!
Wanna trade? Lol my Hancock is exactly like the stereotype...sadly.
My Hancock is the stereotype. Bucker and stubborn. Basically a complete ******* but I've heard those are the horses that turn out the best!... Or atleast that's what I keep telling myself lol |
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| I have had all the big race bloodlines and we just don't click, so I stick with my cowbredd or cow/run crosses. I love OTMR crossed on a cowbred mare and have had lots of luck with the cross. On straight cowbred, I like Highbrow Cat, Dual Pep, and Freckles Playboy. I honestly haven't found any of the cowbred lines I don't like. I won't ride a Hancock. I had one bust my face one time when he turned into a NFR quality bronc. He would work cows and pasture ride all day long, but if you put him on barrels and made him work them, he would get ignorant. It might have just been him, but I won't ride another again to try my luck, lol! |
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Location: Some where I haven't left yet | I'm one of the one's also who isn't a giant fan of DTF, had 3 total, loved them, but they totaled 4 too many. Experienced a Judge Cash, and without going into detail I'll just say pass. Murrtheblurr and Music Mounts are the two bloodlines who have bucked me off. My Mr San Peppy's to date were the hottest to ride. I like Special Effort, but I can't say that I'd go out and buy one. I like cow bred, but have trouble finding any that are my "size" ie Big. lol Most of the Race lines I love including Beduino, they are tough and gritty and most of the time quirky. It's so funny too me how some swear by one bloodline who another hates. I always laugh at the "Impressive" threads, usually those who hate Impressive love Doc Bar, which makes me laugh. It's all personal preference and I've got some lines like Murrtheblurr that I won't touch, that others completely love.  |
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Location: Some where I haven't left yet | mtcanchazer - 2016-03-18 7:37 AM Any opinions on Juno Dat Cash?
Mine, ALL MINE...lol I love Juno's Born broke. I will take ALL of the Juno's I can find and for me they are a hard to find commodity. Lucille was a Juno daughter - she was simply amazing, had another that was my main shooting horse and the last one that I could find is my Paris and she's a turning fool. |
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Location: Missouri | I've scanned this thread, sorry if this one has been mentioned already, but I've always been curious what's said about CS Flashlight and if anyone has had any experience with his offspring? |
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| lhighquality - 2016-03-15 4:18 PM
I've "heard" Zan Parr Bar mares don't ride, I was bucked off one late last fall, so I kinda believe it now!!!
Mine is super sweet!! Honest as the day is long..very easy going qnd will do anything you ask. I would love another just like her!! |
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| RunfastNTurn - 2016-03-20 8:19 AM
lhighquality - 2016-03-15 4:18 PM
I've "heard" Zan Parr Bar mares don't ride, I was bucked off one late last fall, so I kinda believe it now!!!
Mine is super sweet!! Honest as the day is long..very easy going qnd will do anything you ask. I would love another just like her!!
Mine are both hardcore workers. The mare is a crabby butt...that being said she has won more than any other horse on the place. Our gelding Loves to run barrels and is an excellent cattle dog. Can be a little "quirky" but for as hard as they work in the arena I'll take it
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Location: Ohio | horsiace1025 - 2016-03-15 8:28 AM I had an own son of Special Effort- really nice, hard worker, sweet! I had a gd of peppy san badger o/o a dash for cash/lady bugs moon mare-wonderful! laid back, i let kids ride her as a 4 year old, and could fly, however, she did take a lot longer to "get" the barrel pattern. Also had a pure cow gelding that had doc olena, colonel freckles, and leo and was the most hard working and had the biggest heart of any horse iv ever owned in your pocket type had a mare out of an impressive/doc bar dam and she had an attitude but would work all day long if you wanted, and fairly easy to train. Stereotype CENTRAL! The only horses I have never had any luck with were palominos and paints! LOL
Same! I've never owned a palomino that wasn't an airhead or meaner than a snake lol
I've got a 4 yr old that is a Docs Prescription grandson on top and Peppy San Badger/Dry Doc grandson on the bottom. Great little horse but he is still young and can be a little scatterbrained at times. Has bucked a few times but nothing to write home about. He is almost too smart for his own good though and was VERY accident prone as youngster because of it.
I have 2 Impressive bred mares in my barn. One has had the snot beat out of her at one time in her life and mentally shuts down easily. She came bred and her filly (ahem... palomino) is a total WITCH! Waits until people get close to her stall and tries to bite, used to get nasty around feeding time and very dominant in a herd). Both are on the sensitive side and are prone to rearing up and spinning around if spooked or the pressure gets to them. Wont own another one... they think on a totally different wavelength than my cow ponies. |
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horsiace1025 - 2016-03-15 8:28 AM I had an own son of Special Effort- really nice, hard worker, sweet! I had a gd of peppy san badger o/o a dash for cash/lady bugs moon mare-wonderful! laid back, i let kids ride her as a 4 year old, and could fly, however, she did take a lot longer to "get" the barrel pattern. Also had a pure cow gelding that had doc olena, colonel freckles, and leo and was the most hard working and had the biggest heart of any horse iv ever owned in your pocket type had a mare out of an impressive/doc bar dam and she had an attitude but would work all day long if you wanted, and fairly easy to train. Stereotype CENTRAL! The only horses I have never had any luck with were palominos and paints! LOL
Same! I've never owned a palomino that wasn't an airhead or meaner than a snake lolI've got a 4 yr old that is a Docs Prescription grandson on top and Peppy San Badger/Dry Doc grandson on the bottom. Great little horse but he is still young and can be a little scatterbrained at times. Has bucked a few times but nothing to write home about. He is almost too smart for his own good though and was VERY accident prone as youngster because of it. I have 2 Impressive bred mares in my barn. One has had the snot beat out of her at one time in her life and mentally shuts down easily. She came bred and her filly (ahem... palomino) is a total WITCH! Waits until people get close to her stall and tries to bite, used to get nasty around feeding time and very dominant in a herd). Both are on the sensitive side and are prone to rearing up and spinning around if spooked or the pressure gets to them. Wont own another one... they think on a totally different wavelength than my cow ponies.
This is funny, I have an Impressive bred (very far back in the line but its still there) and mine is completely mentally unstable and rears up and spins if shes in a high pressure situation. Wow! |
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Location: Ohio | achildres - 2016-03-19 8:56 PM
GrittyCowgirl - 2016-03-20 4:57 PM
horsiace1025 - 2016-03-15 8:28 AM I had an own son of Special Effort- really nice, hard worker, sweet! I had a gd of peppy san badger o/o a dash for cash/lady bugs moon mare-wonderful! laid back, i let kids ride her as a 4 year old, and could fly, however, she did take a lot longer to "get" the barrel pattern. Also had a pure cow gelding that had doc olena, colonel freckles, and leo and was the most hard working and had the biggest heart of any horse iv ever owned in your pocket type had a mare out of an impressive/doc bar dam and she had an attitude but would work all day long if you wanted, and fairly easy to train. Stereotype CENTRAL! The only horses I have never had any luck with were palominos and paints! LOL
Same! I've never owned a palomino that wasn't an airhead or meaner than a snake lolI've got a 4 yr old that is a Docs Prescription grandson on top and Peppy San Badger/Dry Doc grandson on the bottom. Great little horse but he is still young and can be a little scatterbrained at times. Has bucked a few times but nothing to write home about. He is almost too smart for his own good though and was VERY accident prone as youngster because of it. I have 2 Impressive bred mares in my barn. One has had the snot beat out of her at one time in her life and mentally shuts down easily. She came bred and her filly (ahem... palomino) is a total WITCH! Waits until people get close to her stall and tries to bite, used to get nasty around feeding time and very dominant in a herd). Both are on the sensitive side and are prone to rearing up and spinning around if spooked or the pressure gets to them. Wont own another one... they think on a totally different wavelength than my cow ponies.
This is funny, I have an Impressive bred (very far back in the line but its still there ) and mine is completely mentally unstable and rears up and spins if shes in a high pressure situation. Wow!
I've seen a few that are awesome kids horses but mine are very fragile minded. My older mare is by far worse. If you push her too far she will go from a small rear and spin to a full on "lights out, no one's home" mental meltdown. I would have blamed it on past owner/trainer experiences before I got her but her filly is the same exact way. Beautiful horses, both have amazing conformation and athletic ability but holy cow they are either mean or mental lol |
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Location: Montana | GrittyCowgirl - 2016-03-20 8:18 PM achildres - 2016-03-19 8:56 PM GrittyCowgirl - 2016-03-20 4:57 PM horsiace1025 - 2016-03-15 8:28 AM I had an own son of Special Effort- really nice, hard worker, sweet! I had a gd of peppy san badger o/o a dash for cash/lady bugs moon mare-wonderful! laid back, i let kids ride her as a 4 year old, and could fly, however, she did take a lot longer to "get" the barrel pattern. Also had a pure cow gelding that had doc olena, colonel freckles, and leo and was the most hard working and had the biggest heart of any horse iv ever owned in your pocket type had a mare out of an impressive/doc bar dam and she had an attitude but would work all day long if you wanted, and fairly easy to train. Stereotype CENTRAL! The only horses I have never had any luck with were palominos and paints! LOL Same! I've never owned a palomino that wasn't an airhead or meaner than a snake lol
I've got a 4 yr old that is a Docs Prescription grandson on top and Peppy San Badger/Dry Doc grandson on the bottom. Great little horse but he is still young and can be a little scatterbrained at times. Has bucked a few times but nothing to write home about. He is almost too smart for his own good though and was VERY accident prone as youngster because of it.
I have 2 Impressive bred mares in my barn. One has had the snot beat out of her at one time in her life and mentally shuts down easily. She came bred and her filly (ahem... palomino) is a total WITCH! Waits until people get close to her stall and tries to bite, used to get nasty around feeding time and very dominant in a herd). Both are on the sensitive side and are prone to rearing up and spinning around if spooked or the pressure gets to them. Wont own another one... they think on a totally different wavelength than my cow ponies. This is funny, I have an Impressive bred (very far back in the line but its still there ) and mine is completely mentally unstable and rears up and spins if shes in a high pressure situation. Wow! I've seen a few that are awesome kids horses but mine are very fragile minded. My older mare is by far worse. If you push her too far she will go from a small rear and spin to a full on "lights out, no one's home" mental meltdown. I would have blamed it on past owner/trainer experiences before I got her but her filly is the same exact way. Beautiful horses, both have amazing conformation and athletic ability but holy cow they are either mean or mental lol
I had an Impressive bred one that was a great kids/beginner horse. Loved her. Her last foal (who is now 10 years old) you couldn't give me. She is bratty and dominant and pushy, and still likes to try to buck on occasion. She makes me nervous to be around her because she has tried to kick at me in the past. I'm just glad I don't own her. |
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Location: Nebraska | Doc O'Lenas/Smart Little Lenas are sweethearts. They try hard to please. Peppy San Badgers are incredibly smart, but that also means they're crafty. This includes the "Big 3" cowbred full brothers- Gallo Del Cielo, Paddys Irish Whiskey, and Grays Starlight. My little ranch horse is a Lena on the bottom and a PSB (Peppy Badger Chex) on top. She'll let you know if she gets frustrated, but once she figures out what I want she sticks to it. She learned flying changes and spins insanely quickly. High Brow Cat horses are touchy and from my experience can get a little hot, but they're super athletic. |
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Location: Nebraska | I've also noticed the Lenas liking to nibble on things. Not necessarily cribbing, but if they're tied they might chew on their lead ropes or throw blankets if they can reach them. Once I left a practice bridle within reach of the mare mentioned above. Turned around for 30 seconds to get my spurs and I came back to one of my split reins in her mouth  I'm just glad my own stupidity only cost me some damaged practice reins and not any of my good ones... |
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Location: Somewhere around here | MOGirl07 - 2016-03-18 12:54 PM
I've scanned this thread, sorry if this one has been mentioned already, but I've always been curious what's said about CS Flashlight and if anyone has had any experience with his offspring?
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| For cow/reiners... I disliked working with Gallo Del Cielo "Rooster" bred horses when I worked at a reining training facility. They were dumb and extremely stubborn and untrustworthy and lazy. Seriously had the worst work ethic, tried anything to get out of doing their jobs. Plus they had the ugliest heads and conformation. Smart Spooks were another that I was not a fan of. They were very lazy and had quite a poor work ethic and stubborn attitude. Doc O Lena's and Smart Little Lenas, Freckles Playboy's and Topsail Whiz's are very athletic catty and smart horses but they have to have a job to do or they get bored. I love my Appendix Doc Quixote/ Peponita mare. Super athletic and has a huge heart and great work ethic. Wimpy Little Steps were my one of my favorites to work with because they have a great mind and attitude-very humble. They make a great cross on a super hot mare. Dun Gotta Gun horses are gorgeous and fun to ride but everyone I have seen had very pencil thin bones, tiny hooves and a club foot.
I agree with everyone on the Impressive bred mares. The one I use to have was crazy and very unpredictable. She would be standing quietly at the trailer and then 3 seconds later be pulling back for no reason. I didn't have any issues with her bucking but she was lazy! You literally had to ask for every little step and she was too lazy to buck! She was extremely easy to break though.
Right now I'm currently loving my Bulldashus (Bully Bullion X Dash Ta Fame ) X Texas High Dasher Cross filly and my Fire On Bug gelding. Both have great attitudes, love to be worked and are very talented
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Location: Somewhere around here | christylynn89 - 2016-03-21 3:23 PM
For cow/reiners... I disliked working with Gallo Del Cielo "Rooster" bred horses when I worked at a reining training facility. They were dumb and extremely stubborn and untrustworthy and lazy. Seriously had the worst work ethic, tried anything to get out of doing their jobs. Plus they had the ugliest heads and conformation. Smart Spooks were another that I was not a fan of. They were very lazy and had quite a poor work ethic and stubborn attitude. Doc O Lena's and Smart Little Lenas, Freckles Playboy's and Topsail Whiz's are very athletic catty and smart horses but they have to have a job to do or they get bored. I love my Appendix Doc Quixote/ Peponita mare. Super athletic and has a huge heart and great work ethic. Wimpy Little Steps were my one of my favorites to work with because they have a great mind and attitude-very humble. They make a great cross on a super hot mare. Dun Gotta Gun horses are gorgeous and fun to ride but everyone I have seen has had very pencil thin bones tiny tiny hooves and a club foot.
I agree with everyone on the Impressive bred mares. The one I use to have was crazy and very unpredictable. She would be standing quietly at the trailer and then 3 seconds later be pulling back for no reason. I didn't have any issues with her bucking but she was lazy! You literally had to ask for every little step and she was too lazy to buck! She was extremely easy to break though.
Right now I'm currently loving my Bulldashus (Bully Bullion X Dash Ta Fame ) X Texas High Dasher Cross filly and my Fire On Bug gelding. Both have great attitudes, love to be worked and are very talented
I also heard that "Roosters" were a hit or miss type. My hubby had a filly by him and she was super quick and light on her feet when she was young but right before he was able to break her she died from a disease. |
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For cow/reiners... I disliked working with Gallo Del Cielo "Rooster" bred horses when I worked at a reining training facility. They were dumb and extremely stubborn and untrustworthy and lazy. Seriously had the worst work ethic, tried anything to get out of doing their jobs. Plus they had the ugliest heads and conformation. Smart Spooks were another that I was not a fan of. They were very lazy and had quite a poor work ethic and stubborn attitude. Doc O Lena's and Smart Little Lenas, Freckles Playboy's and Topsail Whiz's are very athletic catty and smart horses but they have to have a job to do or they get bored. I love my Appendix Doc Quixote/ Peponita mare. Super athletic and has a huge heart and great work ethic. Wimpy Little Steps were my one of my favorites to work with because they have a great mind and attitude-very humble. They make a great cross on a super hot mare. Dun Gotta Gun horses are gorgeous and fun to ride but everyone I have seen has had very pencil thin bones tiny tiny hooves and a club foot.
I agree with everyone on the Impressive bred mares. The one I use to have was crazy and very unpredictable. She would be standing quietly at the trailer and then 3 seconds later be pulling back for no reason. I didn't have any issues with her bucking but she was lazy! You literally had to ask for every little step and she was too lazy to buck! She was extremely easy to break though.
Right now I'm currently loving my Bulldashus (Bully Bullion X Dash Ta Fame ) X Texas High Dasher Cross filly and my Fire On Bug gelding. Both have great attitudes, love to be worked and are very talented
I also heard that "Roosters" were a hit or miss type. My hubby had a filly by him and she was super quick and light on her feet when she was young but right before he was able to break her she died from a disease.
So sorry to hear that. I agree, they did have two Rooster bred horses out of their breeding program that were nice to work with but the other 5 that were all bred similarly were more like what I described. They were hoping to copy the attitude of the two that stood out but unfortunately it didn't happen that way lol.. joys of breeding! |
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Location: MT | Couldn't give me one that has either Docs Zimfandel or Obvious Conclusion in there. Had own sons of both of these years ago and they were dangerous fruitloops...one hurt me bad and the other I got dang lucky on.
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| cecollins0811 - 2016-03-21 7:57 AM
MOGirl07 - 2016-03-18 12:54 PM
I've scanned this thread, sorry if this one has been mentioned already, but I've always been curious what's said about CS Flashlight and if anyone has had any experience with his offspring?
Bump. Curious as well!
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| RockyMountainRacer - 2016-03-20 11:48 PM
I've also noticed the Lenas liking to nibble on things. Not necessarily cribbing, but if they're tied they might chew on their lead ropes or throw blankets if they can reach them. Once I left a practice bridle within reach of the mare mentioned above. Turned around for 30 seconds to get my spurs and I came back to one of my split reins in her mouth I'm just glad my own stupidity only cost me some damaged practice reins and not any of my good ones...
I worked with a now 4yo Lena gelding, and he loved to chew on EVERYTHING. We actually had to start using an old chain to show halter because all he did was chew on the chain the whole time he is in the pen. We tried training it out of him, but it's like his stress coping activity and he gets really upset if he isn't doing something with his mouth. He's just a hard worker and has to be doing something is all we could gather from it. haha |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | komet. - 2016-03-14 11:56 AM IdahoBarrelRacer756 - 2016-03-14 11:14 AM Griz - 2016-03-14 10:04 AM We need an acronym legend. When people use acronyms when it comes to studs, MOST of the time, I haven't a CLUE who they are talking about - but I'm SLOW like that! Me too! I've been racking my brain all morning for what TEJ means?!?!? Something Easy Jet? That's what Google is for... just be sure to enter the word 'Stallion'. (but even I know that TEJ is Two Eyed Jack ) Notice how they violated his tail....
Two Eyed Jack was raised close by me in McHenry, IL and was owned by HH Mass. Many of us were thrilled when he went to the Pitzer Ranch in NE so we wouldn't have to ride them..LOL As far as his tail...back then roached manes and short tails to the hock was the norm. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | ruggedchica - 2016-03-21 7:48 PM Couldn't give me one that has either Docs Zimfandel or Obvious Conclusion in there. Had own sons of both of these years ago and they were dangerous fruitloops...one hurt me bad and the other I got dang lucky on.
I had a son of Obvious Conclusion. He was big, athletic and gorgeous and had zero work ethic. He spent more energy trying to get out of work rather then just doing it..Never again.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | christylynn89 - 2016-03-21 3:23 PM For cow/reiners... I disliked working with Gallo Del Cielo "Rooster" bred horses when I worked at a reining training facility. They were dumb and extremely stubborn and untrustworthy and lazy. Seriously had the worst work ethic, tried anything to get out of doing their jobs. Plus they had the ugliest heads and conformation. Smart Spooks were another that I was not a fan of. They were very lazy and had quite a poor work ethic and stubborn attitude. Doc O Lena's and Smart Little Lenas, Freckles Playboy's and Topsail Whiz's are very athletic catty and smart horses but they have to have a job to do or they get bored. I love my Appendix Doc Quixote/ Peponita mare. Super athletic and has a huge heart and great work ethic. Wimpy Little Steps were my one of my favorites to work with because they have a great mind and attitude-very humble. They make a great cross on a super hot mare. Dun Gotta Gun horses are gorgeous and fun to ride but everyone I have seen had very pencil thin bones, tiny hooves and a club foot. I agree with everyone on the Impressive bred mares. The one I use to have was crazy and very unpredictable. She would be standing quietly at the trailer and then 3 seconds later be pulling back for no reason. I didn't have any issues with her bucking but she was lazy! You literally had to ask for every little step and she was too lazy to buck! She was extremely easy to break though. Right now I'm currently loving my Bulldashus (Bully Bullion X Dash Ta Fame ) X Texas High Dasher Cross filly and my Fire On Bug gelding. Both have great attitudes, love to be worked and are very talented
That is funny about the Roosters. I worked with 2 filies and hated them. But it was because they were flighty and refused to even try to get along. They were anything but lazy. Almost nasty about their attitude but it wasn't because they were expected to work. They were just sensitive to the point of almost being dangerous. Hated the Duel Peps too. But I only worked with colts by him. Maybe the female version were better. They were lazy and stubborn IMO. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Nevertooold - 2016-03-22 7:11 PM ruggedchica - 2016-03-21 7:48 PM Couldn't give me one that has either Docs Zimfandel or Obvious Conclusion in there. Had own sons of both of these years ago and they were dangerous fruitloops...one hurt me bad and the other I got dang lucky on.
I had a son of Obvious Conclusion. He was big, athletic and gorgeous and had zero work ethic. He spent more energy trying to get out of work rather then just doing it..Never again.
Rode several that went to Ima Cool Skip that were the same way. All were out of cowbred or ranch type mares and they were worthless. |
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Location: Nebraska | FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-22 3:32 PM
RockyMountainRacer - 2016-03-20 11:48 PM
I've also noticed the Lenas liking to nibble on things. Not necessarily cribbing, but if they're tied they might chew on their lead ropes or throw blankets if they can reach them. Once I left a practice bridle within reach of the mare mentioned above. Turned around for 30 seconds to get my spurs and I came back to one of my split reins in her mouth I'm just glad my own stupidity only cost me some damaged practice reins and not any of my good ones...
I worked with a now 4yo Lena gelding, and he loved to chew on EVERYTHING. We actually had to start using an old chain to show halter because all he did was chew on the chain the whole time he is in the pen. We tried training it out of him, but it's like his stress coping activity and he gets really upset if he isn't doing something with his mouth. He's just a hard worker and has to be doing something is all we could gather from it. haha
My university has a colt sale every year. I was in the Equine Center and noticed one of the colts chewing on his rope like my mare does. I looked up his pedigree and sure enough, he's got CD Olena on his dam's side.
Its not a bad thing, just a quirk. But don't leave any good bridles within their reach. |
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Location: Nebraska | FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-03-22 3:32 PM
RockyMountainRacer - 2016-03-20 11:48 PM
I've also noticed the Lenas liking to nibble on things. Not necessarily cribbing, but if they're tied they might chew on their lead ropes or throw blankets if they can reach them. Once I left a practice bridle within reach of the mare mentioned above. Turned around for 30 seconds to get my spurs and I came back to one of my split reins in her mouth I'm just glad my own stupidity only cost me some damaged practice reins and not any of my good ones...
I worked with a now 4yo Lena gelding, and he loved to chew on EVERYTHING. We actually had to start using an old chain to show halter because all he did was chew on the chain the whole time he is in the pen. We tried training it out of him, but it's like his stress coping activity and he gets really upset if he isn't doing something with his mouth. He's just a hard worker and has to be doing something is all we could gather from it. haha
My university has a colt sale every year. I was in the Equine Center and noticed one of the colts chewing on his rope like my mare does. I looked up his pedigree and sure enough, he's got CD Olena on his dam's side.
Its not a bad thing, just a quirk. But don't leave any good bridles within their reach. |
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Location: Southern Alabama | My grulla mare is GD on the top side of Robbie's Rooster. She has an incredible work ethic. She has really odd, quirky ways, but, she has the kindest disposition. She gets bored, very quickly. And, has quite the gritty personality. But, very in your pocket... if I am anywhere near her, she wants to be with me. I haven't heard much about the 'Rooster' bred horses.
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | I'm a Fame person. The mares are a tick needy and hot, but they try so hard. I don't get along with Streakin Six or OTMR- neither fit me at all. They fight! And the FG are a little too dull and lazy in my opinion. As far as cowbreds go- I LOVE High Brow Cats, Handlebar Doc, and Playgun. We also have a Peptoboonsmal 5 year old that is an athlete delux. You don't have to beg him to do anything- once you show him something once he excels at it. |
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| I had a Special effort gelding, he was probably the most mellow horse I ever owned. But gosh darn, if he saw a squirrel his world would fall apart! The littlest things scared him to most.
My luck with Beduino, he was hot hot hot when I first got him, but with training and TIME, he was also very mellow and I used him for my lesson horse. Basically when he found out he couldn't walk all over us, he got amazing. Only horse I've ever been able to run a barrel pattern completely tackless and bridleless! One of my favorites.
Bugs Alive in 75 is probably my favorite bloodline out there! I've had 4 (Yes 4!) all related siblings and they have been the best horses (and fastests, always in the 1D at big super shows). Very hard workers and willing to please.
Another one I haven't seen on here is Dunnit with a Twist. Mix that with Bugs Alive in 75, and you will get a to DIE for horse. I would purchase another one in a heart beat!!!
One horse I absolutely won't own is a Corona Cartel. I've heard / seen way to many bad things about their legs and confirmation, they usually don't hold up well and are always on the lame side.
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| mbcruel21 - 2016-03-16 7:42 AM
These threads always amuse me. I run a mare that is DFc/Beduino on top and Two Eyed Jack/Skipper W on the bottom. She did buck when she was a 2 and 3 yr old but once she matured she was fine. I think a lot of time, time plays a bigger factor than anything, people quit one before they invest the time in the them to get something accomplished.
Racebred horses in a lot of cases are the same way, they are wired a little tighter and need the TIME invested in them. I am currently seasoning a filly that was in race training as a 2 and 3 yr old, they never really got anything done with her because she was just another colt in the barn to them and it was slap a exercise rider on her, hot walker, stall...rinse wash repeat. She got sent home and turned out for 6 months and then I started her. She spent 90 days pasture riding and getting broke, lots of time invested by someone who is a great hand. She is the type that when something scares her she is going somewhere else. I spent most all of last year sitting in a warm up pen with team ropers being team ropers and her trying to come out of her skin. TIME. She was patterened slow and everything was done easy and correct. She is very talented and honestly the sweetest kindest horse we own but it took us putting the time into her, she grew up and matured and let her do it on her schedule. I feel like a lot of time breeding gets blamed for people wanting to rush training and maturity, honestly a lot of time its nots the breeding its the training. Some bloodlines are more user friendly without a doubt.
We own a Mr Jess Perry son, who is easy going, takes everything in stride and so far all of his babies have been the same way. They are born wanting to please. My FIL owns a Corona Cartel son and his babies are ones that need the time invested in them, when people put the time in them they work.
Thank you!!! I get so tired of trying to explain this to people who stereotype racehorses as "crazy"
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| How about Top Moon bred horses? I just got a mare that is cow bred on top and running bred on bottom. She is sweet as pie as far as her personality goes, but can get hot under saddle. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | lsmith - 2016-03-24 7:35 PM
What about Biankus and Lucky Blanton? Kinda random but I'm curious
I have a mare that goes to Lucky Blanton WAAAAAYYYYYY back. I doubt there's any influence that hasn't come from something closer. She's also PSB and Par Three on top with old TB breeding on the bottom. She's got a great work ethic, she's sweet and honest but cinchy when you first saddle her. Never been a bucker. Great bone and feet.
The Biankus' I've had have been by Captain Biankus or a son of his. They are SMART! If you don't respect their intelligence or try to bully them, they will make you pay. I bought a complete outlaw (sellers description) daughter of Captain a few years ago. They couldn't catch her, she'd double barrel kick at them. Just a nightmare of a horse. When I got her home I just ignored her. Went about my business without trying to force myself on her. I never had a bit of trouble with her. She was a little watchy when I tried to catch her so I started feeding her treats without trying to catch her. All of the Biankus horses I've had have BOUGHT from other people have been suspicious of people at first, some get over it with kind handling, some never do. But you can't force them into anything. You have to be respectful of their intellect or you won't get along well. The ones I have raised by my JOH son haven't been the same. But I don't force them either. |
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| cecollins0811 - 2016-03-21 4:41 PM christylynn89 - 2016-03-21 3:23 PM For cow/reiners... I disliked working with Gallo Del Cielo "Rooster" bred horses when I worked at a reining training facility. They were dumb and extremely stubborn and untrustworthy and lazy. Seriously had the worst work ethic, tried anything to get out of doing their jobs. Plus they had the ugliest heads and conformation. Smart Spooks were another that I was not a fan of. They were very lazy and had quite a poor work ethic and stubborn attitude. Doc O Lena's and Smart Little Lenas, Freckles Playboy's and Topsail Whiz's are very athletic catty and smart horses but they have to have a job to do or they get bored. I love my Appendix Doc Quixote/ Peponita mare. Super athletic and has a huge heart and great work ethic. Wimpy Little Steps were my one of my favorites to work with because they have a great mind and attitude-very humble. They make a great cross on a super hot mare. Dun Gotta Gun horses are gorgeous and fun to ride but everyone I have seen has had very pencil thin bones tiny tiny hooves and a club foot. I agree with everyone on the Impressive bred mares. The one I use to have was crazy and very unpredictable. She would be standing quietly at the trailer and then 3 seconds later be pulling back for no reason. I didn't have any issues with her bucking but she was lazy! You literally had to ask for every little step and she was too lazy to buck! She was extremely easy to break though. Right now I'm currently loving my Bulldashus (Bully Bullion X Dash Ta Fame ) X Texas High Dasher Cross filly and my Fire On Bug gelding. Both have great attitudes, love to be worked and are very talented I also heard that "Roosters" were a hit or miss type. My hubby had a filly by him and she was super quick and light on her feet when she was young but right before he was able to break her she died from a disease.
A friend of mine has a daughter of Rooster that was a 1D horse. A great and good looking mare. She developed strange allergies that the best vets could not explain, and was a bleeder. Because of her health issues she was retired. |
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| teamthompson - 2016-03-15 8:44 PM What about the running horses???
Panther Mountain?
Storm Cat?
Holy Bart?
Howling Corona?
Rare Cigar?
Paddys Irish Whiskey???
Kool Quick Kid??
To me, Panther Mountain horses are hidden gems and crossed with DTF on the momma's side is a brilliant cross!!!
I have a 4 yr old filly that is by DMNV Mountable (Panther Mountain X Cheyennes Bullion) and out of Dashing Guitar (DTF X Flaming Guitar) and i would take a barn full if I could!! She has been a dream to deal with and ride! Super smart and very willing!!
I don't know alot about Flaming Jet horses, but I have had BB and DTF....
I also have a 12 yr old gelding by Zippy Zevi Dasher X Chicks Sugar Time... Needless to say he is a very DELICATE horse. He is the fastest, most athletic horse I have thrown a leg over but you have to make him think it's his way, keep him as calm as possible and do NOT push him or he will come unglued!! He is very sensitive to his surroundings and me. He feeds off my energy.
I believe the DTF on the mom's side is where the "magic" crossing is... and while DTFs are for everyone, if you can click with one, you can bet your paycheck you will have a NICE horse!! |
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Location: Southern Alabama | scwebster - 2016-12-28 12:15 PM cecollins0811 - 2016-03-21 4:41 PM christylynn89 - 2016-03-21 3:23 PM For cow/reiners... I disliked working with Gallo Del Cielo "Rooster" bred horses when I worked at a reining training facility. They were dumb and extremely stubborn and untrustworthy and lazy. Seriously had the worst work ethic, tried anything to get out of doing their jobs. Plus they had the ugliest heads and conformation. Smart Spooks were another that I was not a fan of. They were very lazy and had quite a poor work ethic and stubborn attitude. Doc O Lena's and Smart Little Lenas, Freckles Playboy's and Topsail Whiz's are very athletic catty and smart horses but they have to have a job to do or they get bored. I love my Appendix Doc Quixote/ Peponita mare. Super athletic and has a huge heart and great work ethic. Wimpy Little Steps were my one of my favorites to work with because they have a great mind and attitude-very humble. They make a great cross on a super hot mare. Dun Gotta Gun horses are gorgeous and fun to ride but everyone I have seen has had very pencil thin bones tiny tiny hooves and a club foot. I agree with everyone on the Impressive bred mares. The one I use to have was crazy and very unpredictable. She would be standing quietly at the trailer and then 3 seconds later be pulling back for no reason. I didn't have any issues with her bucking but she was lazy! You literally had to ask for every little step and she was too lazy to buck! She was extremely easy to break though. Right now I'm currently loving my Bulldashus (Bully Bullion X Dash Ta Fame ) X Texas High Dasher Cross filly and my Fire On Bug gelding. Both have great attitudes, love to be worked and are very talented I also heard that "Roosters" were a hit or miss type. My hubby had a filly by him and she was super quick and light on her feet when she was young but right before he was able to break her she died from a disease.
My grulla roan mare is a GD of Roobie's Rooster. She is super atheletic... but, she is sensitive. Nice conformation, big build. But, other than what I have seen here... I know nothing about horses be bred this way. |
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| I have stuck to the older stock cow lines for the most part, always got along with them better. Recently fell in love with old cow bred mare x Streakin Six stud. Fearless is all I could say about this horse. Nothing bothers him, BUT you cannot pick a fight with him. He has certainly taught me that some days when we butt heads I just have to walk away. Drop dead gorgeous, but a bit heavier in the shoulders than what I'm used to. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | teamthompson - 2016-03-11 8:18 PM
I have a 4yo mare, Playgun bred on top and Doc O Lena/Two Eyed Jack on the bottom, she is a "cold backed" little thing...
I have been told its the Playgun and Two Eyed Jack
She likes to talk back alot too (i.e. Tail swishing, ****y attitude) when asked to do stuff, she is on lazy side....
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | KRJ1791 - 2016-03-16 4:16 AM
Packin Sixes- I have only had experience with mares of this line and they are smart, and gritty. A little I'm going to do it my way in the attitude department.
I' Really like to hear more on the Game Patriot, Tres Seis, A Streak of Fling, Judge Cash, Zevi, On the Money Red
I had a Packin sixes granddaughter who was super super gritty but very slow to learn and slow on her feet/super lazy. Very push style, had to really teach her to run, she was closely line bred though. |
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Location: Northwest | BigMomma - 2016-12-28 8:00 PM
Any thoughts on...
Streakin Six, Moon Lark, Dash for Cash, or Sir Alibi?
I had a grandson of Streakin Six that I sold earlier this year at the ripe age of 21 :) He was the most consistent horse ever. Never once hit a barrel on him. Definitely a free runner. He had kind of a unique turning style. No quirks and very sound. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | In MY experience:
I had two mares that were Real Easy Jet, driftwood, and docs hickory that were super athletic and quick footed but both liked to buck like crazy! They were 1/2 sisters, both were midgets too 14.2-14.3 but could fly. Didn't get along with them.
My TEJs I loved, but they were cold backed and a little hot. For some reason we got along though. A gelding I owned for 8 years was a rugged lark/and two eyed jack cross he was sooooo smart, almost to smart for his own good.
Had a dash for cash crossed with native dancer/little dick priest/rocket wrangler the most laid back gelding I've ever had but once he figured out he could run he's turned into a freight train in the pen! Not a whole lot of turn.
Another easy jet/easily smashed gelding was amazing, he was small only 14.2 but had a promising 1/2D career ahead of him but he coliced young and passed :(
Streakin sizes/Packin sixes seemed a little late to bloom and lazy but had the run and grit.
Hollywood dunit horse to slow for barrels, never had the drive. But did have a mare crossed with some run that was a free runner.
Nicest horse I ever got to run was an Eddie Stinson mare that I couldn't afford for myself but was able to jockey in a few futuries...I call her the one that got away, she was crossed with OTMR.
Had a Boon bred mare crossed with two eyed redbuck that can turn out from under you, super super smart and quiet disposition, really had to teach to run but is making a heck of a barrel horse now.
I've had two with Top Moon that were paints that I loved everything about. Both crossed with a lot of cow.
My next project is my docs prescription/peptoboonsmal gelding, I can't wait to see what's in store for us this year!!!!
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Location: Northwest | lsmith - 2016-03-24 7:35 PM
What about Biankus and Lucky Blanton? Kinda random but I'm curious
I've only been around Captain Biankus bred horses since he stood in my home town. They are amazing athletes. Very well built. Some have hilarious/goofy personalities but I've found they are all pretty easy to get along with. |
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Location: North of where I want to be | RnRJack when you decide you need to kick the docs prescription/peptoboonsmal gelding to the curb let me know! |
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| iloveequine40 - 2016-12-28 5:48 AM
mbcruel21 - 2016-03-16 7:42 AM
These threads always amuse me. I run a mare that is DFc/Beduino on top and Two Eyed Jack/Skipper W on the bottom. She did buck when she was a 2 and 3 yr old but once she matured she was fine. I think a lot of time, time plays a bigger factor than anything, people quit one before they invest the time in the them to get something accomplished.
Racebred horses in a lot of cases are the same way, they are wired a little tighter and need the TIME invested in them. I am currently seasoning a filly that was in race training as a 2 and 3 yr old, they never really got anything done with her because she was just another colt in the barn to them and it was slap a exercise rider on her, hot walker, stall...rinse wash repeat. She got sent home and turned out for 6 months and then I started her. She spent 90 days pasture riding and getting broke, lots of time invested by someone who is a great hand. She is the type that when something scares her she is going somewhere else. I spent most all of last year sitting in a warm up pen with team ropers being team ropers and her trying to come out of her skin. TIME. She was patterened slow and everything was done easy and correct. She is very talented and honestly the sweetest kindest horse we own but it took us putting the time into her, she grew up and matured and let her do it on her schedule. I feel like a lot of time breeding gets blamed for people wanting to rush training and maturity, honestly a lot of time its nots the breeding its the training. Some bloodlines are more user friendly without a doubt.
We own a Mr Jess Perry son, who is easy going, takes everything in stride and so far all of his babies have been the same way. They are born wanting to please. My FIL owns a Corona Cartel son and his babies are ones that need the time invested in them, when people put the time in them they work.
Thank you!!! I get so tired of trying to explain this to people who stereotype racehorses as "crazy"
Exactly! Those hotter race bred types aren't the typical Cookie Cutter horse. You have to know how to work with them, not against them. Unfortunately too many trainers only want the easy Cookie Cutter type horses so they end up blowing the hotter ones up, send them down the road and then people start complaining about how they had such-n-such bloodline that was an idiot so they will never have it again. It's very sad how disposable we've allowed good horses to become because people are too blind when it comes to the human element that are responsible for shaping the horse. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | KRJ1791 - 2016-12-29 6:07 AM
RnRJack when you decide you need to kick the docs prescription/peptoboonsmal gelding to the curb let me know!
Haha I wil let you know, I've ridden him and loved him, I'm picking him up Monday so will keep you updated!!!  |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | KRJ1791 - 2016-12-29 7:34 AM
I'd love to see pics! Good luck!
Here's when I tried him out, when I get him next week I will take more
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Location: NE Texas | teamthompson - 2016-03-15 7:44 PM
What about the running horses???
Panther Mountain?
Storm Cat?
Holy Bart?
Howling Corona?
Rare Cigar?
Paddys Irish Whiskey???
Kool Quick Kid??
These are fun to read! With everything, take it with a grain of salt though.
I can only speak to my mares personality; her Grand-sire is Storm Cat.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/silver+blush2
Extremely smart and willing to please with a soft eye.
Show her something once or twice and she thinks she knows it (to the point that it's not good b/c she doesn't do it exactly the way you showed her so takes some patience).
She is very touchy/sensitive - can't pick at her or get upset - she will come unwound trying to figure out what you want her to do. Will only tolerate a soft brush for grooming or she will wiggle around until it drives you nuts. Hates spray bottles.
Snorty to the most random things (like a shadow but not flapping plastic bags or bridges), but is fine once she gets a chance to smell it.
Awesome trail riding horse - fast/smooth walk and seems to have endless energy.
Free runner - no spurs needed - just point go. Could be the track training, but once she opens up turning isn't on her mind ---- we are working on that!
One day will cross her with a cowbred QH --- can't wait! |
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