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What is the latest on ERA?
euchee
Reg. Oct 2003
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 I haven't seen anything for awhile but heard today that the ERA dropped the suit against the PRCA.  Is that true?
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Yes, they did drop their lawsuit a couple of weeks ago.  ERA put a long statement of their website/facebook page and the PRCA put a one line statement on theirs. 
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Reg. Feb 2005
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They post fairly regular updates on their Facebook page. It is a public page so you do not need a Facebook account to view it. It can be viewed by anyone. They are promoting their first rodeo coming up later this month.
 
https://www.facebook.com/erarodeo/
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I've noticed they are adding another contestant to some of the events (at least the ones I've seen posted) like barrels, team roping, and saddle bronc so far. So now they have 11 contestants for the events, anyone know why they added people? I thought the stated in their rules/guidelines that there would only be 10?
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 This is an interesting article that came out in the Houston Press.  It's long..
http://www.houstonpress.com/news/why-the-biggest-organization-in-rodeo-kicked-out-houston-and-its-top-cowboys-8242230

WHY THE BIGGEST ORGANIZATION IN RODEO KICKED OUT HOUSTON AND ITS TOP COWBOYS
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TUESDAY, MARCH 15, 2016 | 1 DAY AGO
 
Rodeo cowboys Bobby Mote <b></b>(left<b></b>) and Trevor Brazile <b></b>(right<b></b>).
Rodeo cowboys Bobby Mote (left) and Trevor Brazile (right).
Photo by Daniel Kramer
It happened in seconds. Bobby Mote was already sitting astride the chestnut in the cramped quarters of the bucking chute when the horse, a nervous creature named Diaper Duty, reared up, its front hooves pawing at the air. Mote’s rigging — thick leather straps and a wooden handle that allow him to ride without a saddle — locked him in place as the horse teetered on his back hooves and then went over, sandwiching the bareback rider between the back metal wall and the bulk of more than 1,200 pounds of horseflesh.
 
Diaper Duty righted himself and Mote scrambled out of the rigging, wedging himself in a corner of the bucking chute while he gasped for air. His ribs were probably cracked, he thought, but the purse for this competition, the Rancho Mission Viejo Rodeo in San Juan Capistrano, California, was large enough that winning would help him increase his standing in the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association rankings. It’s the tally of dollars earned on the PRCA rodeo circuit that determines who will go to the association’s National Finals Rodeo, held every December in Las Vegas. Mote had already won four bareback competitions in August 2011, and this was to be his fourth ride in four days, a typical schedule for professional cowboys during the regular PRCA rodeo season.
Figuring that there was a chance his broken ribs would keep him off the rodeo circuit for a week or two, after about a minute, Mote climbed back aboard Diaper Duty, slid his heavy leather glove into the rigging, slipped on his neck support to keep him from getting whiplash and made a sharp signal with his bare hand.
Seconds later, the pair streaked across the arena. Diaper Duty stamped and kicked up dust and threw his hindquarters into the air, a wild, frantic dance that jerked Mote’s body like a rag doll. He doesn’t remember much of the eight-second ride — after more than 20 years as a professional bareback rider, he was performing based on muscle memory, even as he struggled not to black out from the pain. It never occurred to him not to ride. “We’re not wired that way, to quit. Even though it doesn’t make sense now, at the time I was there for a reason, to win so I could get more points and so I could put food on the table. This is how I provide for my family, and I can’t do that if I don’t compete,” he says now.
Afterward he boarded a plane for Seattle, intent on catching a connecting flight to make the next rodeo in Idaho. The adrenaline had kept the pain at bay but as the plane took off, the cabin pressure increased and Mote’s entire body broke out in a cold sweat. He knew he was about to pass out, but he couldn’t speak or move. As everything faded to black, he noticed the woman in the seat next to him wriggling as far away as she could get and sticking headphones in her ears. “I thought I was done. I thought I was dead right there,” he says now.
When he came back up, they’d landed in Seattle and he got in a cab and went to a doctor. Eventually the doctors figured out that not only had Mote cracked his ribs, but the pressure of the horse’s body had shoved his vital organs up against the knife-sharp bones of his spine, causing internal bleeding and slicing into his pancreas, which started leaking bile. He was within minutes of bleeding out when they finally diagnosed him. Still, by December, five months later, he was riding in the rodeo finals. He couldn’t afford not to compete.
“The crazy thing is that anybody who’s been around very long in the sport has got a story like that, because it really is a dangerous sport,” Mote says now. “That reason alone is why I don’t understand how the PRCA has reacted to some of us pros getting together to start something new, to give ourselves a chance to ride less and make some money while we can. Most rodeo careers aren’t long, and if the best guys in the world are ending their careers and they still have nothing tangible to show for it but broken bodies, that’s a broken system.”
The PRCA is a not-for-profit organization that develops the rules and procedures that govern most of the rodeos in the United States. The association makes contracts with rodeo organizing committees to sanction and support multiple-event rodeos of all sizes, and anyone who is a member of the PRCA and who pays rodeo entry fees can compete. Because of its size — the PRCA oversees 600 rodeos each year, and the National Finals Rodeo, styled as the world championship of the sport, and has more than 5,000 rodeo athlete members — it is the largest and most powerful single organization in the world of modern rodeo, as well as the oldest. But critics complain that the organization’s unwillingness to change is driving away both cowboys and audiences.
Bareback rider Bobby Mote says the Elite Rodeo Association will bring more attention to the entire rodeo industry.
Bareback rider Bobby Mote says the Elite Rodeo Association will bring more attention to the entire rodeo industry.
Matt Cohen
 
Last fall, when a group of about 80 professional rodeo cowboys announced they were creating a new cowboy-owned, cowboy-run rodeo organization that would offer a nine-city tour and a world championship involving some of the top athletes in the sport, PRCA officials took the announcement as a threat. The older rodeo board voted to create two bylaws that effectively banned anyone who is heavily involved in the Elite Rodeo Association from belonging to the PRCA. “We were never competing with PRCA. That was never what this was about,” famed 23-time world champion cowboy Trevor Brazile, often described as the LeBron James of the sport, says now. (Cowgirls are governed by the Women’s Professional Rodeo Association and are allowed to appear at both ERA and PRCA rodeos.)
In fact, many in the industry have been pushing to change the way competitions are run. Back in 2008, the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo was one of the crown jewels of the PRCA system. But audiences weren’t turning out to watch the rodeos the way they once had.
“I realized we were dealing with an urban audience, one that had increasingly short attention spans and needed a show that moved faster and was a little easier for someone not as familiar with rodeo to follow,” RodeoHouston General Manager Joe Bruce Hancock says.
Houston got special permission to try a new format for three years, one in which not all the PRCA-required rodeo events would be offered and a “shootout” would be held every few days, a fast-moving competition that featured the best-scoring athletes in the rodeo as they vied to win “playoff” matches. Even with the looser rules, RodeoHouston still had to give the PRCA a 6 percent cut of the overall purse, but the Houston organizers started gaining the ability to plan the events and coordinate when specific performers would be in the arena.
Before, RodeoHouston had been required to use the national organization’s registration system, so no one on the Houston committee could be sure about who was coming to the rodeo or when athletes would be competing. As Houston began to cultivate its own way of operating, although still within the PRCA system, it tracked its own registration so it knew when the top cowboys would be in the arena and could promote them accordingly.
 
That approach worked for Houston. Audiences started showing up to see the cowboys instead of keeping the stands half empty until just before the night’s concert was about to start. “It was exciting to be a part of because people were really getting into it. Finally we were performing for a real crowd in Houston,” Mote says.
But when RodeoHouston applied to renew its PRCA sanctions in 2011 and requested another exemption to keep offering the new format, the governing board refused to approve the application. The PRCA was going through a rough time, longtime rodeo reporter Ed Knocke noted inWestern Horseman. The organization had had three commissioners over the past decade, one of whom had ended up in prison. Its finances were in the red, and the membership numbers for both cowboys and rodeo committees had been dropping steadily for the past 20 years.
When contacted by the Houston Press, PRCA spokeswoman Kendra Santos denied there was any tension between the PRCA and the cowboys who set up the ERA. In response to a Press request to interview PRCA Commissioner Karl Stressman, Santos said that he was traveling and unavailable. She also denied that the PRCA has had any problems. “The PRCA has not struggled in recent years. The PRCA has been stronger financially over the last few years than it has been in decades,” Santos stated via email.
Hancock says he believes these outside pressures played a role in the PRCA response to Houston’s bid to continue revamping how the rodeo was offered. “That was a difficult time for the PRCA. There was a lot of politics going on. They’re a membership-based organization, so it can be difficult for them to make changes when the changes don’t obviously benefit a huge number of the members,” Hancock says. “We were a conventional rodeo before, but conventional rodeo wasn’t entertaining our audience. We had to try something new, and when it worked we couldn’t go back to the old way.”
In the end, the PRCA made it clear that Houston wouldn’t be allowed to keep changing its format under the organization’s auspices. But Houston officials were determined to keep finding new and interesting ways to get more people invested in the sport of rodeo.That’s why the PRCA gave Houston the boot.
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All-around world champion rodeo cowboy Trevor Brazile believes the tradition-steeped industry needs to evolve to include a true professional level of the sport.
All-around world champion rodeo cowboy Trevor Brazile believes the tradition-steeped industry needs to evolve to include a true professional level of the sport.
Daniel Kramer
 
Oddly enough, the PRCA started out as an organization run by and for professional cowboys just like Mote and Brazile, and it represented a huge shift in the rodeo industry when the group was created 80 years ago.
Back in the late 1800s, the rodeo profession sprang out of a dying way of life as the open ranges and long cattle drives of traditional ranching gave way to barbed wire fences and railroad lines crisscrossing the country. Nostalgia made spectacles like Buffalo Bill’s Wild West shows and rodeos popular. Men and women who had spent their lives working cattle started showing off their skills in roping, riding and wrestling steers and bulls, appearing in Old West shows and competing in rodeos for purse money.
In the early days, there were no strict rules or standardized safety requirements for the various events, and participants would show up to ride only to find the prizes were worth less than had been advertised. People were regularly injured and many were killed while rodeoing, and the free-for-all system gave organizing committees and show promoters a clear advantage over the disconnected cowboys and cowgirls who constantly traveled the nascent rodeo circuit to make a living.
 
In 1936, a group of around 60 professional cowboys rebelled. They were vying to place in the money at Boston Garden when someone realized the rodeo producer, “Col.” W.T. Johnson, was collecting more cash from ticket sales than he was offering in the purse and was pocketing most of the proceeds. The performers went on strike, stating they wouldn’t go into the arena unless the purses were doubled. Johnson was a Texas rancher who couldn’t see why he should pay cowboys more to perform than to work cattle. After trying to hold a show with hired hands in place of cowboys, Johnson gave in to the demands of the group. They dubbed themselves the Cowboys Turtle Association, because they moved slowly but surely.
The Turtles became the Rodeo Cowboys Association in 1945, and they renamed themselves the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association in 1975. By the 1980s, rodeo had become a multimillion-dollar sport and the PRCA was the de facto regulatory agency and dominant governing body of the entire sport.
It’s a simple business model. From the low-level rodeos held in rural pockets of the country to the glittering affairs staged in Cheyenne and Houston, almost every rodeo was sanctioned by the PRCA. Sanctioning meant every competitor agreed to abide by PRCA rules, every rodeo committee would offer the advertised purse money and each event would be conducted according to PRCA safety standards. In return for the association’s role as the regulatory agency of the sport, every sanctioned rodeo committee today gives the PRCA 6 percent of its purse and every member of the organization pays annual dues.
For decades the PRCA has operated a fairly open system. Anyone who wants to join can pay the membership fee and sign up. Once an athlete has won $1,000 in prize money, he is considered a professional by the association’s standards. However, the bulk of competitors in the organization are “weekend cowboys,” enthusiasts with regular jobs who sign up for rodeos through the PRCA system, pay the entry fees and make the trek out to various rodeos on their days off.
But the PRCA has never tolerated competition well. In the 1980s, the board banned its members from competing in open rodeos, i.e., rodeos that weren’t sanctioned by the group. Some cowboys balked at the rule and sued in 1985, accusing the association of acting like a monopoly. The court sided with the athletes and issued a three-year prohibition against any such rule being put in the association bylaws. Once the prohibition was lifted, the board issued a new rule keeping rodeo athletes out of the National Finals Rodeo if they participated in any unsanctioned rodeos during the regular season, so athletes filed another lawsuit in 1991. Again, a court backed the cowboys, enacting a ten-year injunction against any such rule.
 
The next year, 20 bull riders gathered in a Las Vegas hotel room in the middle of the world championship. Each rider put in $1,000 cash, and the Professional Bull Riders, a new, independent organization owned and operated by the rodeo athletes, was created. The bull riders didn’t stop riding in PRCA rodeos, but they started offering their own shows, which featured the best bull riders in the field all competing on animals of comparable quality and all slated to ride at set times on specific nights. The PBR tours grew in fame and popularity over the following years. By the time the court injunction ended, in 2001, there was no point in trying to ban bull riders from participating in both systems — the bull riders would have simply walked away from the older organization.
It was the start of a new trend in the sport, a move toward offering shows that were quick and featured performers of the highest caliber showing off their skills. Rodeos in the PRCA were long, complicated and hard for the average person to follow. The bull riders proved there was another way.
Even PRCA officials saw how well the bull riders did with this new approach. In the early 2000s, the organization seemed to embrace the idea of creating true rodeo stars and trying different formats for its shows. First it created the Wrangler ProRodeo Tour, a televised tour with about a dozen stops. When that did well, the PRCA established Xtreme Bulls, another televised tour for bull riders, with a purse of more than $700,000.
TV spots meant more publicity, and the faster pace of the touring shows made the programs more accessible to audiences who were becoming familiar with the sport, the athletes and the organization behind them with each broadcast. The new approach was also pricey — it came out in 2004 that the PRCA was mired in more than $3.5 million in debt. Then-commissioner Steve Hatchell abruptly resigned and the next commissioner, Troy Ellerman, focused on traditional rodeo and regular members, scaling back on showcasing the stars, the tours and the television broadcasts.
(Ellerman also suddenly stepped down in 2007, shortly before pleading guilty to felony charges for leaking grand jury testimony on a former client, the founder of a California lab caught producing performance-enhancing steroids for athletes.)
 
Ever since Stressman took over, he has made it clear the organization is committed to serving its regular members, not catering to the wants and whims of professionals. Stressman told the Las Vegas Review-Journal in late 2014 that he blames unsanctioned rodeos — such as Houston, the Calgary Stampede and the American (held in Arlington, Texas) — and professional rodeo organizations like PBR and ERA for the steady annual 3 percent decline in membership. “The ‘Showdeo’ business,” Stressman called it, scoffing. “I don’t think in any way, shape or form it’s good for the PRCA.”
For years professional rodeo athletes have pushed the board to alter the points system that determines who will qualify for the annual world championship in Las Vegas. The system has every athlete in the organization technically competing for points. Although only a handful of the cowboys have the talent and skill to perform at the professional level, the star performers and regular cowboys are all lumped into the same category, earning the same number of points for each rodeo dollar won, even though the rodeos they enter vary widely in quality.
This requires many of the top performers to travel ten months out of the year, running up thousands of dollars in credit card debt and competing in up to 100 rodeos to ensure they’ll win enough money to make it to the world championship in December. The rodeo athletes have also asked for a voice in how decisions are made, at one point saying the stars of the industry would agree to limit themselves to only PRCA rodeos if the board would give one true professional cowboy a seat. The PRCA declined. Frustrated, the pros asked the board for a formal meeting in February 2014 in Waco.
But when Brazile, Mote and 12 other pre-eminent rodeo athletes, two from each event, gathered in a hotel conference room, they were met by assistants and PRCA employees who had no authority. Word came that Stressman’s flight from Phoenix, Arizona, had been canceled because of bad weather, even though the entire month was uneventful, according to National Weather Service data. (The Houston Press asked Stressman’s office for comment on why he didn’t attend the meeting, but the office never responded.)
By the time Tony Garritano, Brazile’s longtime agent, strode into the hotel lobby to meet Brazile for dinner, the men were furious and talking about breaking away entirely to form a new organization just for professional cowboys. Brazile pulled Garritano into the room — Garritano grew up in Las Vegas and has worked closely with the bull riders association for years. The cowboys wanted his advice. They stayed in the conference room and talked late into the night. Garritano bought a toothbrush and crashed in Brazile’s room. The next morning, he was in the meeting room for a conference call with the board.
 
“Cowboys will only be running the PRCA over my dead body,” one board member insisted.
After they’d hung up the phone, the men decided to create the ERA.
“We had a big-picture goal,” Mote says now. “We started and all we had was this idea of unity of the top guys, but we knew we wanted to do something to change things for the guys who are out there making a living this way. Anybody that rodeos full-time knows that things could and should be better, and that’s where we started, just making it better.”
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Even as the pain shot through Steven Peebles’s rib cage like a spear the instant his body thudded against the arena floor last July in Livingston, Montana, he told himself it was nothing because he knew he didn’t have time to be injured. It was probably just some broken ribs, Peebles, then 25, thought as he peeled himself out of the dirt.
He was used to the feel of broken bones. In his short professional career, Peebles shattered his right leg in 2011, tore his hip muscles in 2012, underwent hip surgery in 2013 and heard the sounds of his backbone snapping as a horse nearly crushed him in 2014. Still, he and his traveling partner had a flight to catch, he was currently ranked eighth in bareback riding and he wanted to rake in more points to make sure he’d be one of the top qualifiers for the NFR. He could barely bend over to pull off his boots, but he shook off any thoughts of seeing a doctor, clambered into the rented van and they motored out of town.
“I make a good living, but I only make a living at all if I’m riding and if I spend all the money traveling and entering rodeos, but if I don’t get into the NFR in December, then the money gets really tight,” Peebles explains now. “It’s a good living as long as you win.”
When Peebles doubled over and turned ghost white, his friend turned around and rushed him to an emergency clinic. A pool of blood was gushing into his chest cavity, a doctor told him. In the ambulance taking him to the hospital, Peebles could feel the blood sloshing around inside him while he fought to stay conscious.
“Am I going to die?” he asked the EMT.
“I can’t answer that,” the man replied before turning to the driver. “We’re losing him. Move it or he’s not going to make it!”
When he got to the hospital, Peebles was within minutes of either bleeding out or drowning in his own blood. The next day, his doctor told him it was a miracle he’d survived.
“So when can I start riding again, Doc?” Peebles replied.
 
The doctor advised at least three months of rest, but after six weeks of bed rest, Peebles was already ranked 30th. He called his traveling partner and went back out on the circuit. For the next six weeks he rode through pain, and sometimes he’d dismount, stumble out of the arena and nearly collapse because he couldn’t catch his breath. “I got through each ride by pretending the last six weeks never happened,” he says now. “And then in December I won my first world championship at the finals.”
By then the PRCA had banned owners, officers or employees of the ERA from belonging to the PRCA.“I don’t understand the reasoning, though,” Peebles says. “We’re not getting rich off our sport, and I don’t see what the big deal is about having more opportunities. They’re pretty much the only opportunity for us to make money in this profession, and I think they wanted to keep it that way, that they liked us having to depend on them.”
The professional cowboys filed a class action lawsuit against the PRCA last fall, claiming the organization was once again violating the Sherman Antitrust Act. However, the U.S. District Court judge on the case ruled against a requested stay to keep the bylaws from being put in place until the case had been decided. In late February Brazile, Mote and Garritano decided to drop the suit. “It was going to take so much time and money that it wasn’t worth it,” Brazile says. “Besides, we realized that people thought the ERA would only exist if we won the lawsuit, and that’s not true. It was better to go ahead and focus on getting our own organization going than on fighting with them.”
Brazile is still hoping the PRCA sees the benefit of a tour of professional cowboys who he says will inspire kids to start dreaming of turning rodeo pro the same way kids fantasize about being drafted for pro football. It will help the entire rodeo industry, starting with the PRCA, Garritano argues. “Those kids won’t be able to sign up for the ERA because that’s just the top, the best of the best, so they’ll end up at the PRCA, which means the PRCA will have more members,” he says. “It’s like that saying goes, ‘Rising tides lift all boats.’”
After Houston, the ERA rodeo athletes will convene in Redmond, Oregon, for the first of nine scheduled stops on the 2016 tour. Hancock says RodeoHouston supports what the ERA is doing. The ERA tour may even play Houston one day if it is a good fit, Hancock says. Houston won’t revert to the old ways of rodeo.
“I’m not going to say we wouldn’t entertain a partnership with PRCA, but it would only be that. Rodeo is evolving, and everybody doesn’t fit into the same box anymore. There’s no going back.” 

 

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I had read the article yesterday and needless to say it is definitely  Pro ERA.  I have a little trouble with their slant that the PRCA rejected Rodeo Houston and the top competitors from the ERA.  When Rodeo Houston wanted to change the rules with limited entries, the PRCA let them experiment with a new format.  It is my understanding, from a person who seems to know stuff, that when the PRCA did not want the Houston money to count towards the NFR, Houston decided to go their own way.  True or not, I don't know. 

On the PRCA website, they have added a link to the legal documentation of the ERA lawsuit/request for injunction (possibly in response to the Houston article).  After reading from the link,  I came away with one bit of information.  The ERA has a silent financial backer.  Let the guessing game begin. 
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   IF this quote can be validated (and I'm betting it can)......It's very telling about current administrations attitude toward working with other organizations.  "Ever since Stressman took over, he has made it clear the organization is committed to serving its regular members, not catering to the wants and whims of professionals. Stressman told the Las Vegas Review-Journal in late 2014 that he blames unsanctioned rodeos — such as Houston, the Calgary Stampede and the American (held in Arlington, Texas) — and professional rodeo organizations like PBR and ERA for the steady annual 3 percent decline in membership. “The ‘Showdeo’ business,” Stressman called it, scoffing. “I don’t think in any way, shape or form it’s good for the PRCA.”" 

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This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.
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Posted 2016-03-16 12:05 PM
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Thank you all for the information.  
I haven't ever really read up enough to understand exactly how the ERA is to work, I had just heard that it was going to be along the same lines as the PBR but don't know for sure.
With them dropping the suit I bet some of the open rodeos are going to get some more contestants in their part of the country.  It is a shame that everyone couldn't just get along and do what is best for rodeo, what ever that may be. 
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euchee - 2016-03-16 12:05 PM Thank you all for the information.  

I haven't ever really read up enough to understand exactly how the ERA is to work, I had just heard that it was going to be along the same lines as the PBR but don't know for sure.

With them dropping the suit I bet some of the open rodeos are going to get some more contestants in their part of the country.  It is a shame that everyone couldn't just get along and do what is best for rodeo, what ever that may be. 

There's room for both associations - they can co-exist.  I'd like to see this worked out and everyone move along. There are quite a few ERA competitors that will also compete at PRCA rodeos (I think we will see more).   
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whiplashranch - 2016-03-16 11:00 AM This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.

If you go to www.prorodeo.com and read the court doc that the PRCA posted in their news section, I believe it says that the PRCA is considered a non-profit organization while the ERA is a FOR profit organization. Might have to go back and read again to make sure, but thought that was sort of interesting. 
 
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RocketPilot - 2016-03-16 2:30 PM
whiplashranch - 2016-03-16 11:00 AM This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.
If you go to www.prorodeo.com and read the court doc that the PRCA posted in their news section, I believe it says that the PRCA is considered a non-profit organization while the ERA is a FOR profit organization. Might have to go back and read again to make sure, but thought that was sort of interesting. 

 

I'd think this was correct.....but do keep in mind that just because the PRCA is non-profit does NOT mean that management isn't paid hefty salaries.  They're well compensated for their job.

I found this interesting.  
The PRCA develops rodeo rules and procedures, trains judges, and contracts with rodeo organizing committees to sanction and support multiple-event rodeos that involve seven standard events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, team roping, steer wrestling, and barrel racing.3 The PRCA takes a six percent cut of the purse (prize money generally comprised of contestant entry fees and sponsorship money raised by local rodeo committees) at PRCA-sanctioned rodeos. 
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RocketPilot - 2016-03-16 10:17 AM I had read the article yesterday and needless to say it is definitely  Pro ERA.  I have a little trouble with their slant that the PRCA rejected Rodeo Houston and the top competitors from the ERA.  When Rodeo Houston wanted to change the rules with limited entries, the PRCA let them experiment with a new format.  It is my understanding, from a person who seems to know stuff, that when the PRCA did not want the Houston money to count towards the NFR, Houston decided to go their own way.  True or not, I don't know. 



On the PRCA website, they have added a link to the legal documentation of the ERA lawsuit/request for injunction (possibly in response to the Houston article).  After reading from the link,  I came away with one bit of information.  The ERA has a silent financial backer.  Let the guessing game begin. 

Gosh I am tying to imagine who the silent financial backer could be..... hmm....... 
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whiplashranch - 2016-03-16 11:00 AM This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.
If you go to www.prorodeo.com and read the court doc that the PRCA posted in their news section, I believe it says that the PRCA is considered a non-profit organization while the ERA is a FOR profit organization. Might have to go back and read again to make sure, but thought that was sort of interesting. 

 
I'd think this was correct.....but do keep in mind that just because the PRCA is non-profit does NOT mean that management isn't paid hefty salaries.  They're well compensated for their job.



I found this interesting.  
The PRCA develops rodeo rules and procedures, trains judges, and contracts with rodeo organizing committees to sanction and support multiple-event rodeos that involve seven standard events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, team roping, steer wrestling, and barrel racing.3 The PRCA takes a six percent cut of the purse (prize money generally comprised of contestant entry fees and sponsorship money raised by local rodeo committees) at PRCA-sanctioned rodeos. 

I am sure that management make nice salaries and I know that would be my dream job. 
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whiplashranch - 2016-03-16 11:00 AM This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.
If you go to www.prorodeo.com and read the court doc that the PRCA posted in their news section, I believe it says that the PRCA is considered a non-profit organization while the ERA is a FOR profit organization. Might have to go back and read again to make sure, but thought that was sort of interesting. 

 

The Association itself is membership based and non-profit but PRCA Properties Inc. is not and that's the management company for the PRCA.  The link below will take you to the Articles of Incorporation which shows the corporation was made to handle the money aspect of the PRCA and that 50,000 shares of common stock could be issued (I have no idea if all have been or who are the holders) at $1.00 per stock price with limitations on how those stocks could be traded or who they could be given to.  I don't know who those stockholders are but someone's making money off of it all since 1975.  In contrast, the ERA has set itself up where future competitors have a chance at buying stock in the corporation and gives them a chance at future benefits in that manner.  

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whiplashranch - 2016-03-16 11:00 AM This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.
If you go to www.prorodeo.com and read the court doc that the PRCA posted in their news section, I believe it says that the PRCA is considered a non-profit organization while the ERA is a FOR profit organization. Might have to go back and read again to make sure, but thought that was sort of interesting. 

 
The Association itself is membership based and non-profit but PRCA Properties Inc. is not and that's the management company for the PRCA.  The link below will take you to the Articles of Incorporation which shows the corporation was made to handle the money aspect of the PRCA and that 50,000 shares of common stock could be issued (I have no idea if all have been or who are the holders) at $1.00 per stock price with limitations on how those stocks could be traded or who they could be given to.  I don't know who those stockholders are but someone's making money off of it all since 1975.  In contrast, the ERA has set itself up where future competitors have a chance at buying stock in the corporation and gives them a chance at future benefits in that manner.  



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I guess the next question is how do you find out who owns the stock?  That would be interesting information. 
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whiplashranch - 2016-03-16 11:00 AM This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.
If you go to www.prorodeo.com and read the court doc that the PRCA posted in their news section, I believe it says that the PRCA is considered a non-profit organization while the ERA is a FOR profit organization. Might have to go back and read again to make sure, but thought that was sort of interesting. 

 
I'd think this was correct.....but do keep in mind that just because the PRCA is non-profit does NOT mean that management isn't paid hefty salaries.  They're well compensated for their job.



I found this interesting.  
The PRCA develops rodeo rules and procedures, trains judges, and contracts with rodeo organizing committees to sanction and support multiple-event rodeos that involve seven standard events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, team roping, steer wrestling, and barrel racing.3 The PRCA takes a six percent cut of the purse (prize money generally comprised of contestant entry fees and sponsorship money raised by local rodeo committees) at PRCA-sanctioned rodeos. 

 Scratching my head as to why you find that interesting.  That is pretty common of rodeo assns from prorodeos to regional and state rodeo associations.  This is what our regional assn policy is:   At the time of a rodeo payoff, an additional 6 percent will be taken from the purse and entry fees. An additional 4 percent will be taken from junior events.
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whiplashranch - 2016-03-16 11:00 AM This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.
If you go to www.prorodeo.com and read the court doc that the PRCA posted in their news section, I believe it says that the PRCA is considered a non-profit organization while the ERA is a FOR profit organization. Might have to go back and read again to make sure, but thought that was sort of interesting. 
 
I'd think this was correct.....but do keep in mind that just because the PRCA is non-profit does NOT mean that management isn't paid hefty salaries.  They're well compensated for their job.

I found this interesting.  
The PRCA develops rodeo rules and procedures, trains judges, and contracts with rodeo organizing committees to sanction and support multiple-event rodeos that involve seven standard events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, team roping, steer wrestling, and barrel racing.3 The PRCA takes a six percent cut of the purse (prize money generally comprised of contestant entry fees and sponsorship money raised by local rodeo committees) at PRCA-sanctioned rodeos. 
 Scratching my head as to why you find that interesting.  That is pretty common of rodeo assns from prorodeos to regional and state rodeo associations.  This is what our regional assn policy is:   At the time of a rodeo payoff, an additional 6 percent will be taken from the purse and entry fees. An additional 4 percent will be taken from junior events.
A percentage of entry fee $$$ doesn't surprise me....but taking a cut of sponsorship money did. So if a committee works to add 20k to the rodeo - then the PRCA gets $1200 of that.  I'd expect to pay a percentage of the contestant entry fees to them, or a flat amount to sanction a rodeo.  It just seems crazy to know that you're going to go ask for donations to put on a great rodeo, and 6% of that is going straight to them.   

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whiplashranch - 2016-03-16 11:00 AM This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.
If you go to www.prorodeo.com and read the court doc that the PRCA posted in their news section, I believe it says that the PRCA is considered a non-profit organization while the ERA is a FOR profit organization. Might have to go back and read again to make sure, but thought that was sort of interesting. 
 
I'd think this was correct.....but do keep in mind that just because the PRCA is non-profit does NOT mean that management isn't paid hefty salaries.  They're well compensated for their job.

I found this interesting.  
The PRCA develops rodeo rules and procedures, trains judges, and contracts with rodeo organizing committees to sanction and support multiple-event rodeos that involve seven standard events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, team roping, steer wrestling, and barrel racing.3 The PRCA takes a six percent cut of the purse (prize money generally comprised of contestant entry fees and sponsorship money raised by local rodeo committees) at PRCA-sanctioned rodeos. 
 Scratching my head as to why you find that interesting.  That is pretty common of rodeo assns from prorodeos to regional and state rodeo associations.  This is what our regional assn policy is:   At the time of a rodeo payoff, an additional 6 percent will be taken from the purse and entry fees. An additional 4 percent will be taken from junior events.
A percentage of entry fee $$$ doesn't surprise me....but taking a cut of sponsorship money did. So if a committee works to add 20k to the rodeo - then the PRCA gets $1200 of that.  I'd expect to pay a percentage of the contestant entry fees to them, or a flat amount to sanction a rodeo.  It just seems crazy to know that you're going to go ask for donations to put on a great rodeo, and 6% of that is going straight to them.   

When viewed from a practical view, all the work of the Local Rodeo Committee has 6% taken off the top to be PRCA Approved. Because the RC works locally to secure sponsorship and added money thereby drawing more entry fees, which is part of the 6% taken by PRCA.
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WPRA takes 6% of added money and entry fees. Sponsor money is added after the 6% is deducted. Bottom of page 71, top of page 72 of 2016 rule book.
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Shorty 2 - 2016-03-17 8:46 AM WPRA takes 6% of added money and entry fees. Sponsor money is added after the 6% is deducted. Bottom of page 71, top of page 72 of 2016 rule book.
Ok - so what is the difference in added money & sponsor money?  

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whiplashranch - 2016-03-16 11:00 AM This has probably been addressed but I missed it...... I keep wondering how the ERA benefits anyone who is not on the top 10 roster?? If you're not one of the 10 in each event that they're advertising as being up at this first rodeo, what would you get out of being involved? Are they paying a salary to all the members or something? I know it's a little off topic here but I can't help wondering.
If you go to www.prorodeo.com and read the court doc that the PRCA posted in their news section, I believe it says that the PRCA is considered a non-profit organization while the ERA is a FOR profit organization. Might have to go back and read again to make sure, but thought that was sort of interesting. 

 
The Association itself is membership based and non-profit but PRCA Properties Inc. is not and that's the management company for the PRCA.  The link below will take you to the Articles of Incorporation which shows the corporation was made to handle the money aspect of the PRCA and that 50,000 shares of common stock could be issued (I have no idea if all have been or who are the holders) at $1.00 per stock price with limitations on how those stocks could be traded or who they could be given to.  I don't know who those stockholders are but someone's making money off of it all since 1975.  In contrast, the ERA has set itself up where future competitors have a chance at buying stock in the corporation and gives them a chance at future benefits in that manner.  



http://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/BusinessEntityHistory.do?quitButtonDestination=BusinessEntityDetail&pi1=1&nameTyp=ENT&entityId2=19871284465&srchTyp=ENTITY&masterFileId=19871284465     
I guess the next question is how do you find out who owns the stock?  That would be interesting information. 

If I've read correctly, Colorado isn't one of the states who requires shareholders/stockholders to be listed or otherwise posted with the Secretary of State.  I know that you can request a copy of the list but probably won't get it unless you are a holder yourself or seeking to buy out other holders (which may be prohibited by the bylaws in some form).  We'll probably never know.  It may honestly be a thing where that money is not being distributed but held so that it can be funneled into other ventures -- like the Ram Circuit, Champions Challenge and the other tours PRCA has a hand in -- or even charity.  The way how PRCA acted in October by passing the new bylaws the way they did and the things said within them lead me to believe that it's probably more than all that but I don't really know.  Only those who know who's on the list really have an inside track. 
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 I wonder who will be announcing the ERA rodeos live in the arena. Anyone know? I also wonder who will be commentating the tv telecast of the ERA rodeos. Anyone know? I'm watching Rodeo Houston with 3 announcers. The younger guy impresses me....can't think of his name..... I hope the ERA doesn't use an announcer who feels the need to stretch out every single word with a strained type voice. Hopefully they get someone entertaining who will draw in "non rodeo" people. If I was not a rodeo fan, I would have turned the channel on Rodeo Houston shortly after it started. They are the in arena and tv announcers. The one younger guy by himself would be fine with me. The two veteran announcers straining and stretching their words to near losing breath is not my preference. Different strokes for different folks. I like the strained voices holding and stretching notes in soul singing not in announcing. LOL

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sodapop - 2016-03-19 6:44 PM

 I wonder who will be announcing the ERA rodeos live in the arena. Anyone know? I also wonder who will be commentating the tv telecast of the ERA rodeos. Anyone know? I'm watching Rodeo Houston with 3 announcers. The younger guy impresses me....can't think of his name..... I hope the ERA doesn't use an announcer who feels the need to stretch out every single word with a strained type voice. Hopefully they get someone entertaining who will draw in "non rodeo" people. If I was not a rodeo fan, I would have turned the channel on Rodeo Houston shortly after it started. They are the in arena and tv announcers. The one younger guy by himself would be fine with me. The two veteran announcers straining and stretching their words to near losing breath is not my preference. Different strokes for different folks. I like the strained voices holding and stretching notes in soul singing not in announcing. LOL

I totally agree with the announcing at Houston. The younger guy is enthusiastic and educated, but Bob Tallman.... I don't mean this bad, but I kinda wish he'd go ahead and retire. Just not my cup of tea. I really like the trio that do the NFR. Joe Beaver seems to know a thing or 2 about barrel horses.
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sodapop - 2016-03-19 6:44 PM  I wonder who will be announcing the ERA rodeos live in the arena. Anyone know? I also wonder who will be commentating the tv telecast of the ERA rodeos. Anyone know? I'm watching Rodeo Houston with 3 announcers. The younger guy impresses me....can't think of his name..... I hope the ERA doesn't use an announcer who feels the need to stretch out every single word with a strained type voice. Hopefully they get someone entertaining who will draw in "non rodeo" people. If I was not a rodeo fan, I would have turned the channel on Rodeo Houston shortly after it started. They are the in arena and tv announcers. The one younger guy by himself would be fine with me. The two veteran announcers straining and stretching their words to near losing breath is not my preference. Different strokes for different folks. I like the strained voices holding and stretching notes in soul singing not in announcing. LOL
I totally agree with the announcing at Houston. The younger guy is enthusiastic and educated, but Bob Tallman.... I don't mean this bad, but I kinda wish he'd go ahead and retire. Just not my cup of tea. I really like the trio that do the NFR. Joe Beaver seems to know a thing or 2 about barrel horses.

 Bob is a one of the finest humans I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. 

as long as he can draw breath and stand up, he needs to be on the mic. 
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Sodapop - as far as the who the silent backer is- I have NO idea. Just wondered with the state the ERA finds themselves in I wondered how long it took them to ask Wade Sundell for a loan after his win at the American
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jbw tx mom - 2016-03-21 10:37 AM Sodapop - as far as the who the silent backer is- I have NO idea. Just wondered with the state the ERA finds themselves in I wondered how long it took them to ask Wade Sundell for a loan after his win at the American

Wade may have become a bigger stockholder in the ERA after that big win. 
I do hope it works for everyone involved, because I love rodeo. I don't know why my font is changing. lol 
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sodapop - 2016-03-19 5:44 PM  I wonder who will be announcing the ERA rodeos live in the arena. Anyone know? I also wonder who will be commentating the tv telecast of the ERA rodeos. Anyone know? I'm watching Rodeo Houston with 3 announcers. The younger guy impresses me....can't think of his name..... I hope the ERA doesn't use an announcer who feels the need to stretch out every single word with a strained type voice. Hopefully they get someone entertaining who will draw in "non rodeo" people. If I was not a rodeo fan, I would have turned the channel on Rodeo Houston shortly after it started. They are the in arena and tv announcers. The one younger guy by himself would be fine with me. The two veteran announcers straining and stretching their words to near losing breath is not my preference. Different strokes for different folks. I like the strained voices holding and stretching notes in soul singing not in announcing. LOL

That would be Anthony Lucia from Rodeo girls. 
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sodapop - 2016-03-19 5:44 PM  I wonder who will be announcing the ERA rodeos live in the arena. Anyone know? I also wonder who will be commentating the tv telecast of the ERA rodeos. Anyone know? I'm watching Rodeo Houston with 3 announcers. The younger guy impresses me....can't think of his name..... I hope the ERA doesn't use an announcer who feels the need to stretch out every single word with a strained type voice. Hopefully they get someone entertaining who will draw in "non rodeo" people. If I was not a rodeo fan, I would have turned the channel on Rodeo Houston shortly after it started. They are the in arena and tv announcers. The one younger guy by himself would be fine with me. The two veteran announcers straining and stretching their words to near losing breath is not my preference. Different strokes for different folks. I like the strained voices holding and stretching notes in soul singing not in announcing. LOL

I just heard in an interview that Anthony Lucia and Randy Schmutz would be announcing this weekend's rodeo in Redmond. 
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Would like to know how tickets sales are going for the Rodeo in Redmond OR. Not exactly a rodeo area. They have a hard time filling seats for the Circuit finals there. I was looking at the schedule of events and they have things planned from the 22nd to the 26th. Not sure they will have the interest for what they have planned there. Nice Facility but not many seats.



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prov35 - 2016-03-23 11:20 AM Would like to know how tickets sales are going for the Rodeo in Redmond OR. Not exactly a rodeo area. They have a hard time filling seats for the Circuit finals there. I was looking at the schedule of events and they have things planned from the 22nd to the 26th. Not sure they will have the interest for what they have planned there. Nice Facility but not many seats.
I heard they sold out.  I'm from there and beg to differ about it not being a rodeo area.  I can name 5 NFR Bareback riders from there, oh and how about Brenda Mays? The Sisters rodeo is no punkin roller either. I have several friends that are stock contractors.  There are many others that stay close and rodeo in the NW because of family and other commitments. Jr. and High School rodeo is pretty competitve in that area too.  Anyway, I hope it is successful.   ETA : Every event I have been to in the past has been well attended.  I don't know about any recent bad attendance but it could be because of the shift in the economy.  I hope with that many well known contestants being there it should be a good draw.

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Would like to know how tickets sales are going for the Rodeo in Redmond OR. Not exactly a rodeo area. They have a hard time filling seats for the Circuit finals there. I was looking at the schedule of events and they have things planned from the 22nd to the 26th. Not sure they will have the interest for what they have planned there. Nice Facility but not many seats.


I'm curious too about the seats. From the picture of the alley on the ERA site, it looked quite small, but it could be we just couldn't see the upper deck. Who from there can tell us?
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Would like to know how tickets sales are going for the Rodeo in Redmond OR. Not exactly a rodeo area. They have a hard time filling seats for the Circuit finals there. I was looking at the schedule of events and they have things planned from the 22nd to the 26th. Not sure they will have the interest for what they have planned there. Nice Facility but not many seats.


I'm curious too about the seats. From the picture of the alley on the ERA site, it looked quite small, but it could be we just couldn't see the upper deck. Who from there can tell us?

The indoor there is nice, depending on who works the ground is if it's good, bad or in between. Alley also depends on how they set it up. Most events cut off the one end of the arena for a holding area. There is a small warm up area off of it if they want to make a longer alley. They do have a nice outdoor Rodeo arena there too, I had hoped they would come back in the summer and run it outside. I would say seating wise it would be like being at The South Point in Vegas or Reno's indoor.
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prov35 - 2016-03-23 11:20 AM Would like to know how tickets sales are going for the Rodeo in Redmond OR. Not exactly a rodeo area. They have a hard time filling seats for the Circuit finals there. I was looking at the schedule of events and they have things planned from the 22nd to the 26th. Not sure they will have the interest for what they have planned there. Nice Facility but not many seats.
I heard they sold out.  I'm from there and beg to differ about it not being a rodeo area.  I can name 5 NFR Bareback riders from there, oh and how about Brenda Mays? The Sisters rodeo is no punkin roller either. I have several friends that are stock contractors.  There are many others that stay close and rodeo in the NW because of family and other commitments. Jr. and High School rodeo is pretty competitve in that area too.  Anyway, I hope it is successful.   ETA : Every event I have been to in the past has been well attended.  I don't know about any recent bad attendance but it could be because of the shift in the economy.  I hope with that many well known contestants being there it should be a good draw.

Yeah. It came across my FB page today from one of the more famous riders. I follow a few of them. She said it was sold out.
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To answer my own question, it will air on April 6 on FoxSports2 Channel. I don't think that is in many basic cable or satellite tv package. I can't remember the time. Not sure what channel that would be for Direct or Dish.

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This article states that the winners of each event earn $3625.  If a contestant won all 9 ERA tour events that would only come to $32,625.  That's hardly lucrative.  I wonder how much the contestants make from the ticket sales and tv contract. 

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This article states that the winners of each event earn $3625.  If a contestant won all 9 ERA tour events that would only come to $32,625.  That's hardly lucrative.  I wonder how much the contestants make from the ticket sales and tv contract. 

There are two nights listed (25th & 26th).....They are able to win both nights?  
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This article states that the winners of each event earn $3625.  If a contestant won all 9 ERA tour events that would only come to $32,625.  That's hardly lucrative.  I wonder how much the contestants make from the ticket sales and tv contract. 
There are two nights listed (25th & 26th).....They are able to win both nights?  

I don't know but that would double the earning potential and still not be what I would consider lucrative. 
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Dash4KJ - 2016-03-22 2:07 PM
sodapop - 2016-03-19 5:44 PM  I wonder who will be announcing the ERA rodeos live in the arena. Anyone know? I also wonder who will be commentating the tv telecast of the ERA rodeos. Anyone know? I'm watching Rodeo Houston with 3 announcers. The younger guy impresses me....can't think of his name..... I hope the ERA doesn't use an announcer who feels the need to stretch out every single word with a strained type voice. Hopefully they get someone entertaining who will draw in "non rodeo" people. If I was not a rodeo fan, I would have turned the channel on Rodeo Houston shortly after it started. They are the in arena and tv announcers. The one younger guy by himself would be fine with me. The two veteran announcers straining and stretching their words to near losing breath is not my preference. Different strokes for different folks. I like the strained voices holding and stretching notes in soul singing not in announcing. LOL
That would be Anthony Lucia from Rodeo girls. 

Anthony was on horseback in the arena at the Gold Buckle match in San Antonio.
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 I am assuming the shareholders & or contestants are making some money from tickets sales, sponsorship, merchandise sales, etc. Then their big payoff would be their finals in November from all of the things like I mentioned plus any winnings. I don't know the November finals payout. I wonder if every rodeo they have pays the same or if it individual to each rodeo? I didn't read the posted article yet so sorry if it answers in the article. I am also wondering since the rodeo is a 2 night perf if they have an average payout as well which would up the potential money to be won. Round money and average money. Then the average winner would be the overall winner of the rodeo or tour stop......or do they have a shootout round or anything like that?

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Anyone else notice ERA said it was a sold out show in Redmond, but all of the videos I have seen of the performances there was many many empty seats? Or am I wrong?
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*almost there* - 2016-03-26 1:08 PM

Anyone else notice ERA said it was a sold out show in Redmond, but all of the videos I have seen of the performances there was many many empty seats? Or am I wrong?

 Sold out could mean season ticket holders for the venue who didn't come to this particular event. I'm not sure. Local sponsors could have purchased tickets too I guess as giveaways.
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sodapop - 2016-03-26 1:04 PM  I am assuming the shareholders & or contestants are making some money from tickets sales, sponsorship, merchandise sales, etc. Then their big payoff would be their finals in November from all of the things like I mentioned plus any winnings. I don't know the November finals payout. I wonder if every rodeo they have pays the same or if it individual to each rodeo? I didn't read the posted article yet so sorry if it answers in the article. I am also wondering since the rodeo is a 2 night perf if they have an average payout as well which would up the potential money to be won. Round money and average money. Then the average winner would be the overall winner of the rodeo or tour stop......or do they have a shootout round or anything like that?

I have no idea but the article says that the total prize money for the tour is $4.6 million.  With 80 contestants that would be an average earning of $57,500 for the entire tour. 
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 From the pictures on the ERA Facebook page they had a good turnout. The stands looked pretty full. They show a lot of interaction with the contestants which isn't a big deal to me at a rodeo, but would be a big hit with a lot of spectators. Give them credit for trying something different in their format. I didn't eee any more about payout or if they have an average. I did see on their website their world standings is based on a point system. It's not listed as money won. Why do any sports of any kind call the big winner a "world" champion since the whole world didn't participate?

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