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Feed for ulcer prone horses
barrels1
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2016-04-01 10:02 AM
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What grain do you feed your ulcer prone horses?
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-04-01 10:31 AM
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Omni cubes, if you have a distributor close by. I travel 2 hours one way once a month to get mine. They are alfalfa cubes with a very small amount of oats and flaxseed in them. They are soft enough you don't soak them. Easy, peasy. I love them. If, however, I couldn't get them any more, I'd buy alfalfa cubes, oats and flaxseed and just mix them. The cubes have worked on my ulcer prone horses (3).
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-04-01 10:41 AM
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No or very little grain. Less than 2# per feeding. By that I mean real grains. Not the bagged pelleted sweetened processed feeds that the big name companies are selling as "grain". There may not be very much actual grain in that stuff.

Try to get the calories the horse needs into him with hay (preferably alfalfa) and as much quality grass hay as they will eat. Horses with ulcers are more likely to willingly eat alfalfa than any other feed. That's what I've noticed about horses with digestive problems. I have used Forco for a horse like this and it will help with gut issues related to eating grain. THE has an awesome product called GastroPlus that has proven to heal ulcers. But if you continue to haul and stress the horse you will need a maintenance plan. Some people dose the horse with GastroPlus on the days you will haul and be away from home to ease any new issues and prevent a relapse.
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barrels1
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2016-04-01 10:53 AM
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Thank you both! I know they are not supposed to have molasses or sugar. Was hoping for an easy buy. He does get alfalfa twice a day and free choice grass hay.
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Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2016-04-01 11:41 AM
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I've given up on everything but alfalfa, rice bran (stabilized), and whole oats.
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Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2016-04-01 12:42 PM
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I feed rice bran and alfalfa. My very hard keeper gets 1 lb Max E Glo for morning, 1lb Max E glo in afternoon and 1.5 lb Renew Gold at night and easy keepers just get 1 lb Renew Gold.
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2016-04-01 4:33 PM
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Look into Tribute feeds. I feed Tribute feeds to my.ulcer.prone horse. Love it.
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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-04-03 10:08 PM
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readytorodeo - 2016-04-01 5:33 PM

Look into Tribute feeds. I feed Tribute feeds to my.ulcer.prone horse. Love it.

Have fed kalm ultra from tribute for years and LOVE IT.
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Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2016-04-03 10:59 PM
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I'm doing free choice alfalfa hay and orchard grass, whole oats, flax, and Renew Gold. Pasture 24-7 with a little over an acre to graze by herself. I was feeding coconut oil but she quit eating it. I've fed it to her in the past, so not sure why she turns her nose up now, except that I bought the refined kind this time that doesn't smell or taste like coconut.
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Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2016-04-04 8:02 AM
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Renew Gold made a HUGE difference in my horse!
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JLBerry
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2016-04-04 8:35 AM
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Renew Gold is the best
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
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GraciousLegacy
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2016-04-04 12:11 PM
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I feed mine Renew Gold and Chaffhaye. I also did a full treatment with Omeprazole and then Vet put him on Ranitidine and slowly reduced that until he was off all meds. Knock on wood he has been fine for almost a year now. He also has free choice coastal hay and 24/7 access to pasture. I try not to ever have to have him locked up in the barn.  
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Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2016-04-04 2:33 PM
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Alfalfa Hay, grass hay (free choice), beet pulp, 1 lb of Ultium, and Platinum CJ. When I haul he gets a dose of Gastrogard and 10cc of Equisure each day we are gone from home.
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soonergirl98
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-04-04 3:33 PM
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I feed Renew Gold, Chaffehaye and NuTrack Digestive Aid
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2016-04-04 6:58 PM
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Alfalfa, alfalfa, alfalfa. :)
And 1lb Renew Gold per day really helped my gelding bloom. He also gets about 1.5lb whole oats once per day to mix his supplements in. He's currently on nothing for ulcers and is doing great. I am about to start hauling him again and do plan on giving something extra to help prevent them. I've given In the Zone paste before and have some on hand, but I've also been looking into the Oxy products.
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jschipper
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-04-05 11:25 AM
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I've recently switched my ulcer mare to Buckeye Gro N Win. She is also on omeprazole daily, but even on omeprazole, getting anything into her was tough. Since starting buckeye, she licks her pail clean and has never been easier to keep ulcer free. I've heard fantastic things about Renew Gold as well but being in Canada we can't get it here easily :(
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-04-05 11:40 AM
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readytorodeo - 2016-04-01 5:33 PM Look into Tribute feeds. I feed Tribute feeds to my.ulcer.prone horse. Love it.

I feed Tribute Kalm N EZ, love it. 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-04-05 12:04 PM
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Murphy - 2016-04-05 9:40 AM

readytorodeo - 2016-04-01 5:33 PM Look into Tribute feeds. I feed Tribute feeds to my.ulcer.prone horse. Love it.

I feed Tribute Kalm N EZ, love it. 

Has anyone had success ordering the Tribute feeds from AMazon????? They have a good no molasses, Low starch option that might be easier for me than mixing my own mix.

Edited by FLITASTIC 2016-04-05 12:07 PM
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ajs2002
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-04-05 12:32 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2016-04-05 1:04 PM
Murphy - 2016-04-05 9:40 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-01 5:33 PM Look into Tribute feeds. I feed Tribute feeds to my.ulcer.prone horse. Love it.
I feed Tribute Kalm N EZ, love it. 
Has anyone had success ordering the Tribute feeds from AMazon????? They have a good no molasses, Low starch option that might be easier for me than mixing my own mix.

I feed the Kalm N Ez and really like it. My ulcer prone boy could not handle Oats even just a small amount for adding supplements.

As for ordering it from Amazon never even thought of it until someone mentioned it on here. It is about $10 more per bag on Amazon then what I pay at my local feed store. So that free shipping isn't really free. You might be able to just call Kalmbach feeds yourself and see what it would cost to get some delivered to you.
 
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-04-05 12:32 PM
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 Renew gold and alfalfa 
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-04-05 12:38 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2016-04-05 1:04 PM
Murphy - 2016-04-05 9:40 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-01 5:33 PM Look into Tribute feeds. I feed Tribute feeds to my.ulcer.prone horse. Love it.
I feed Tribute Kalm N EZ, love it. 
Has anyone had success ordering the Tribute feeds from AMazon????? They have a good no molasses, Low starch option that might be easier for me than mixing my own mix.

I didn't even know it was available on Amazon. I buy mine from a local feed mill.  
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Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2016-04-05 1:02 PM
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Murphy - 2016-04-05 12:38 PM

FLITASTIC - 2016-04-05 1:04 PM
Murphy - 2016-04-05 9:40 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-01 5:33 PM Look into Tribute feeds. I feed Tribute feeds to my.ulcer.prone horse. Love it.
I feed Tribute Kalm N EZ, love it. 
Has anyone had success ordering the Tribute feeds from AMazon????? They have a good no molasses, Low starch option that might be easier for me than mixing my own mix.

I didn't even know it was available on Amazon. I buy mine from a local feed mill.  

I order it from amazon and as far as cost goes for us out here in Montana it doesn't cost anymore than buying what is in the stores. I know if you are closer to the factory you can buy cheaper than amazon. It cost alot to ship straight from Kalmbach and last I checked you needed to be a dealer to do so. We are now going to be dealers because I love the feed so much.
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-04-05 1:16 PM
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ajs2002 - 2016-04-05 10:32 AM

FLITASTIC - 2016-04-05 1:04 PM
Murphy - 2016-04-05 9:40 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-01 5:33 PM Look into Tribute feeds. I feed Tribute feeds to my.ulcer.prone horse. Love it.
I feed Tribute Kalm N EZ, love it. 
Has anyone had success ordering the Tribute feeds from AMazon????? They have a good no molasses, Low starch option that might be easier for me than mixing my own mix.

I feed the Kalm N Ez and really like it. My ulcer prone boy could not handle Oats even just a small amount for adding supplements.

As for ordering it from Amazon never even thought of it until someone mentioned it on here. It is about $10 more per bag on Amazon then what I pay at my local feed store. So that free shipping isn't really free. You might be able to just call Kalmbach feeds yourself and see what it would cost to get some delivered to you.
 

Thanks!! I'm half the country away from the nearest dealer. lol
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-04-05 1:17 PM
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Awesome thanks. Is the feed Fresh when it gets to you from amazon?
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2016-04-05 1:31 PM
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I talk to a lot of people about ulcers, and many of you here have heard me bring this point up before. But, I can't overstate this enough. So here it is again.
If you have done all the standard things to manage your horses diet and environment to minimize the chances of ulcers, like roughage available 24/7, eliminate grain based feeds, provide daily turn out time, and they still have the problem, you need to look in the mouth. Teeth problems are the most commonly unidentified contributor to ulcers for several reasons.
A horse can make over 12 gallons of saliva per day. This is one of the natural buffers to maintain the proper acidity in the stomach. This, along with a constant roughage mat in the stomach prevents excess acid from inflaming the upper, non glandular tissue in the upper portion of the stomach. Once that tissue is inflamed it can ulcerate, develop a bacterial infection that keeps in from healing, and your ulcer problem then spins out of control.
A horse makes acid in the stomach every second of the day, but a horse only makes saliva when it chews. If there is a rough edge on the outside of the upper molars or hooks on the inside of the lower molars, the inside of the cheek or the side of the tongue become sore and it hurts to chew. This in turn means that less saliva is produced, less roughage mat is generated and the stomach is totally out of balance.
So, if you do everything right and your horse still has ulcer issues, you need to treat the ulcers and find the issue that is missing from your management of the horse that is allowing the ulcers to return.
I most of the cases that we deal with, the most often missed one is the teeth.

Edited by winwillows 2016-04-05 1:38 PM
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Posted 2016-04-05 9:29 PM
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If you can get your hands on some "Digestzen" oil from Doterra. Best stuff ever, 6 drops morning & night.
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Posted 2016-04-05 10:30 PM
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Awesome thanks. Is the feed Fresh when it gets to you from amazon?

It has always been good. It usually ships from various feed stores I think. They are really good to talk to if you have questions about what feed is best for you.
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Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-04-06 3:01 PM
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Awesome thanks. Is the feed Fresh when it gets to you from amazon?

It has always been good. It usually ships from various feed stores I think. They are really good to talk to if you have questions about what feed is best for you.

When I looked into getting it from Amazon, it was $24.99 and it said it ships from Kalmbach, free shipping. However it wouldn't be able to be delivered till mid April.
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Kizzy_177
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2016-04-06 4:01 PM
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Does any one know if Healthy Coat for horses prevents ulcers?
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-04-06 6:27 PM
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Kizzy_177 - 2016-04-06 2:01 PM

Does any one know if Healthy Coat for horses prevents ulcers?

There are no ingredients in that supplement that I can see that would prevent ulcers. Its not an acid buffer or GI tract protectant. It is a good vit/min supplement so might help the overall well being of the horse and in a way prevent, but not directly.
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Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-04-07 8:19 AM
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My mare was showing ulcer symptoms when I first got her 4 years ago. Dull coat, poor appetite (rarely finished what small amount of grain she was getting and never finished her hay ever no matter what kind I fed), muscles were really tight and she was very irritable especially when it came to being brushed. On top of that she needed some serious chirp work. She had been off for a year but was incredibly sore so I think that played a role in the ulcers (plus she's a worrier).

I treated her for ulcers but still couldn't get her to eat. She was eating Strategy Healthy Edge and she didn't seem to care for it. I tried her on Ultium and it was the same story. I tried adding just the amplify nuggets to dry cob and same thing. With all of them she would eat maybe about 2 cups worth and leave the rest.

She's always had 24/7 turnout and I tried leaving hay in a hay bag all the time but it took her so long to eat it that it wasn't really helping.

The last time I treated her for ulcers (using omeprazole) I took her off all grains and just started her on beet pulp and alfalfa pellets along with SmartGut Ultra. She gets free choice Timothy hay all day along with flakes of alfalfa morning and night. She finishes up EVERYTHING. I've only treated her with omeprazole one more time in the last two years. Even when she's a little stressed out now she still cleans up all her food.
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Reg. Aug 2010
Posted 2016-04-07 8:35 AM
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CashNOut - 2016-04-05 9:29 PM

If you can get your hands on some "Digestzen" oil from Doterra. Best stuff ever, 6 drops morning & night.

This is my least favorite, favorite oil...smells like licorice - not a fan of licorice. But it seems to help when my stomach hurts.
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Kizzy_177
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2016-04-07 10:45 AM
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Kizzy_177 - 2016-04-06 2:01 PM

Does any one know if Healthy Coat for horses prevents ulcers?

There are no ingredients in that supplement that I can see that would prevent ulcers. Its not an acid buffer or GI tract protectant. It is a good vit/min supplement so might help the overall well being of the horse and in a way prevent, but not directly.

I found this interesting, has anyone read this before? I guess Healthy Coat has lecithin in it. I guess this is related more towards the use of bute though...

Lecithin to Inhibits Bute-Related Ulcers

by Juliet M. Getty, Ph.D.


Your horse is in pain and needs bute. Bute causes ulcers – this we know. But knowing how it damages the lining of the gastrointestinal tract is the key to knowing how to prevent its damaging impact.

Your horse’s stomach – an acid production machine



First, understand that most ulcers can easily be prevented by appreciating the way the horse’s stomach is designed. The lower portion (glandular region) is lined with a protective mucus layer, but the upper portion (squamous region) does not, which makes it especially vulnerable to stomach acid. Most ulcers occur here because the horse’s stomach continuously secretes acid, even when empty. A steady supply of forage – all the time, all day, and all night – will put the acid to its proper work and protect your horse’s stomach. This is the way horses are meant to eat – they are forage grazers.

But even when horses are fed properly, administering non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as bute (phenylbutazone), Banamine (flunixin meglumine), or aspirin, can create ulcerations along the entire gastrointestinal tract. This has to do with the way they reduce pain and inflammation. We tend to assume that it is bute itself that is directly irritating the stomach lining. In actuality, the damage happens after the bute has been absorbed. Bute inhibits the cyclooxygenase enzymes 1 and 2; some of these enzymes reduce the formation of various prostaglandins, some of which promote inflammation and pain. But others maintain the integrity of the entire digestive tract by stimulating the production of molecules known as phospholipids. Phospholipids form a barrier to help prevent stomach acid from damaging the underlying epithelium.



Antacids have a downside



Our tendency is to get rid of the acid by administering antacids, H2 blockers, or the proton-pump inhibitor omeprazole (GastroGard®). But stomach acid is actually important--it is there for two reasons: First, it is necessary to initiate the digestion of protein, a nutritionally critical function. Protein digestion provides amino acids (building blocks of protein) for your horse’s overall health. And second, acid is your horse’s primary defense against all of the microbes that he picks up off the ground, some of which are potentially infectious.

If ulcer prevention is your goal, it makes sense to replace the phospholipids that have been reduced by NSAIDs.

Enter, lecithin



Lecithin is the common term for a phospholipid known as “phosphatidyl choline” (PC). It is a naturally occurring substance; it is the most abundantly found phospholipid in animal and plant cell membranes, and is most commonly derived from soybeans. Chemically, it primarily consists of essential fatty acids (both omega 3 and omega 6) along with a molecule of choline (an essential B vitamin-like nutrient).



Lecithin has been well studied in its ability to treat ulcers. Researchers* at the University of Texas Health Science Center in Houston examined the administration of PC along with NSAIDs and found that not only does PC significantly reduce gastrointestinal injury, but in some cases, it even eliminated gastrointestinal ulcerations. Furthermore, it offers this protection without altering the efficacy of bute (or other NSAID).

Lecithin is easy to feed

You can buy lecithin granules in any health food store, or in bulk through online providers such as BulkFoods.com. I recommend offering ½ to ¾ cup of lecithin with each dose of bute (for a 1000 lb horse). It can be mixed with any feed and is quite palatable. Another option is SBS Equine Products’ lecithin-based supplement called “Starting Gate.”



In addition to offering gastrointestinal protection, lecithin boosts the health of all cell membranes, including those of skin, hair, and hooves. And the body can also use the choline component to produce acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter necessary for proper neuromuscular function.

Summary


When pain relief is necessary and you rely on an NSAID such as bute, protect your horse’s digestive tract by replacing what bute diminishes—phospholipids found in the epithelial layer of the digestive tract. Phospholipids act as a barrier to acid damage. Lecithin (phospahatidyl choline) is a naturally-occurring phospholipid that can be easily supplemented to protect your horse against ulcers.
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Posted 2016-04-07 11:12 AM
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I'm a Tribute Dealer and would be happy to help with any questions if I can.  I haven't had any shipped through Amazon but I will say that the product is always fresh when we recieve it and has a 6 month shelf life (as long as the feed isn't wet, or its terribly hot, or humid).  You can get shipments drop shipped to you, but unless it has changed a dealer has to do that for you.  Like we sell to a farm 2 hours away and we have a ton drop shipped to them every so many weeks and as a dealer you have to order 3 tons at a time minimum.  Kalmbach has been wonderful to work with, and very helpful with any questions we have had.  Dr. Burke which is the nutritionist that formulated the Tribute feed has so much knowlege, I've been to several of his seminars and learn something else everytime.    Tribute also makes a Pre/probiotic thats called Equi-Ferm XL and although every Tribute feed has a recommended maintance dose formulated into it,  we've had sucess with feeding it as a top dress also to ulcer prone horses. 
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Posted 2016-04-07 12:21 PM
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https://522health.com/Catalog/horse-supplements/full-size/faith-ulce...
$209 for a 32 serving bag???? Did I read that correctly????

I read the ingredients list and there isin't anything special in it, just the basics. LOL If I read that right, the price is absolutely crazy. Maybe I missed something.

Edited by FLITASTIC 2016-04-07 12:24 PM
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Ahmac - 2016-04-07 12:12 PM

I'm a Tribute Dealer and would be happy to help with any questions if I can.  I haven't had any shipped through Amazon but I will say that the product is always fresh when we recieve it and has a 6 month shelf life (as long as the feed isn't wet, or its terribly hot, or humid).  You can get shipments drop shipped to you, but unless it has changed a dealer has to do that for you.  Like we sell to a farm 2 hours away and we have a ton drop shipped to them every so many weeks and as a dealer you have to order 3 tons at a time minimum.  Kalmbach has been wonderful to work with, and very helpful with any questions we have had.  Dr. Burke which is the nutritionist that formulated the Tribute feed has so much knowlege, I've been to several of his seminars and learn something else everytime.    Tribute also makes a Pre/probiotic thats called Equi-Ferm XL and although every Tribute feed has a recommended maintance dose formulated into it,  we've had sucess with feeding it as a top dress also to ulcer prone horses. 

I love their feed.have NEVER had any inconsistency in any bag.
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MOTIVATED - 2016-04-07 9:35 AM

https://522health.com/Catalog/horse-supplements/full-size/faith-ulce...
$209 for a 32 serving bag???? Did I read that correctly????

I read the ingredients list and there isin't anything special in it, just the basics. LOL If I read that right, the price is absolutely crazy. Maybe I missed something.

Yes its expensive. I think they are doing a study on it now. Just got underway. It was just a suggestion :)
http://522health.com/horse-supplements/faith/ulcer-study-being-done...
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Posted 2016-04-07 9:00 PM
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Awesome thanks. Is the feed Fresh when it gets to you from amazon?

It has always been good. It usually ships from various feed stores I think. They are really good to talk to if you have questions about what feed is best for you.

When I looked into getting it from Amazon, it was $24.99 and it said it ships from Kalmbach, free shipping. However it wouldn't be able to be delivered till mid April.

Some does and I have gotten some from other stores as well. Where are you at?
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Posted 2016-04-08 1:34 PM
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Has any one used "Draw" to treat ulcers?

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I heard of DIO, or Draw It Out, and people say they have used it successfully for ulcers, but the company doesn't recommend it be used for ulcers at all and they state it on their website. You might not even be talking about the same product though.
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MOTIVATED - 2016-04-08 2:31 PM

I heard of DIO, or Draw It Out, and people say they have used it successfully for ulcers, but the company doesn't recommend it be used for ulcers at all and they state it on their website. You might not even be talking about the same product though.

I am trying to attach a picture of the product, but I am not having any luck. I received it from the Interlaken Center after an acupuncture/chiro session with them. I was told my mare has a very mild case of ulcers and giving her this Draw would soothe them. http://www.interlakencentre.com/shop/index.php

Here is the product.

http://interlakencentre.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&p...

It is affordable and I feel effective as well.
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Posted 2016-04-08 3:49 PM
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Kizzy_177 - 2016-04-08 3:23 PM

MOTIVATED - 2016-04-08 2:31 PM

I heard of DIO, or Draw It Out, and people say they have used it successfully for ulcers, but the company doesn't recommend it be used for ulcers at all and they state it on their website. You might not even be talking about the same product though.

I am trying to attach a picture of the product, but I am not having any luck. I received it from the Interlaken Center after an acupuncture/chiro session with them. I was told my mare has a very mild case of ulcers and giving her this Draw would soothe them. http://www.interlakencentre.com/shop/index.php

Here is the product.

http://interlakencentre.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&p...

It is affordable and I feel effective as well.

So its a topical? How does a topical help ulcers? Anyone have any insight? I did just email this Vet to ask how it helped, short explanation of the science behind it.

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Posted 2016-04-08 4:09 PM
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If you look on the bottle, it says "External Use Only" - made me wonder if it meant an external ulcer? Like an ulcerated sore?

ETA: I googled it and went to the Bristow Vet site. It does state they've had success in treating ulcers. "In addition, here at Bristow Veterinary we have had great success using DRAW to treat and manage ulcers in horses." I tried reading the "How It Works" section, but got a little lost and don't have time to google.

http://www.bristowveterinaryhospital.com/draw.html
 

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Kizzy_177 - 2016-04-08 3:23 PM
MOTIVATED - 2016-04-08 2:31 PM I heard of DIO, or Draw It Out, and people say they have used it successfully for ulcers, but the company doesn't recommend it be used for ulcers at all and they state it on their website. You might not even be talking about the same product though.
I am trying to attach a picture of the product, but I am not having any luck. I received it from the Interlaken Center after an acupuncture/chiro session with them. I was told my mare has a very mild case of ulcers and giving her this Draw would soothe them. http://www.interlakencentre.com/shop/index.php Here is the product. http://interlakencentre.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&a... It is affordable and I feel effective as well.
So its a topical? How does a topical help ulcers? Anyone have any insight? I did just email this Vet to ask how it helped, short explanation of the science behind it.
No, you dose it orally with a syringe.  I've used it, but didn't stay dedicated long enough (aka my horse got too rank LOL) to see how it worked.  There are severally ladies on here that have used it orally in years past. 

 


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Thanks...glad someone has first hand knowledge!
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Posted 2016-04-09 12:05 PM
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Herbie - 2016-04-08 4:10 PM

MOTIVATED - 2016-04-08 3:49 PM
Kizzy_177 - 2016-04-08 3:23 PM
MOTIVATED - 2016-04-08 2:31 PM I heard of DIO, or Draw It Out, and people say they have used it successfully for ulcers, but the company doesn't recommend it be used for ulcers at all and they state it on their website. You might not even be talking about the same product though.
I am trying to attach a picture of the product, but I am not having any luck. I received it from the Interlaken Center after an acupuncture/chiro session with them. I was told my mare has a very mild case of ulcers and giving her this Draw would soothe them. http://www.interlakencentre.com/shop/index.php Here is the product. http://interlakencentre.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&p... It is affordable and I feel effective as well.
So its a topical? How does a topical help ulcers? Anyone have any insight? I did just email this Vet to ask how it helped, short explanation of the science behind it.
No, you dose it orally with a syringe.  I've used it, but didn't stay dedicated long enough (aka my horse got too rank LOL) to see how it worked.  There are severally ladies on here that have used it orally in years past. 

 

Yes orally, I apologize for not making this more clear. I give my mare 20cc's every morning starting a week before I am going to run, and it really seems to help. I think I will actually start giving it consistently now that I have noticed a difference in her attitude. Thank for your insight ladies :)

Edited by Kizzy_177 2016-04-09 12:06 PM
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Me 2, the smell is awful but the horses seem to love ! My gelding is very ulcer prone, and this seems to really help him.
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Posted 2016-04-12 2:06 PM
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Has anyone tried chia seeds?? Just curious. http://www.equinechia.com/

A friend and I were talking about it over the weekend.
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Posted 2016-04-12 2:10 PM
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Kizzy_177 - 2016-04-12 2:06 PM

Has anyone tried chia seeds?? Just curious. http://www.equinechia.com/

A friend and I were talking about it over the weekend.

I did, but not for ulcers. I felt like my horses did better on flaxseed.
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Posted 2016-04-12 2:19 PM
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Look into Kool Speed Plus. I talked to the owner today and this feed is supposed to be great for ulcers and or ulcer prone horses.
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GLP - 2016-04-12 2:10 PM

Kizzy_177 - 2016-04-12 2:06 PM

Has anyone tried chia seeds?? Just curious. http://www.equinechia.com/

A friend and I were talking about it over the weekend.

I did, but not for ulcers. I felt like my horses did better on flaxseed.

Great thanks! :)
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Kizzy_177 - 2016-04-12 2:34 PM

GLP - 2016-04-12 2:10 PM

Kizzy_177 - 2016-04-12 2:06 PM

Has anyone tried chia seeds?? Just curious. http://www.equinechia.com/

A friend and I were talking about it over the weekend.

I did, but not for ulcers. I felt like my horses did better on flaxseed.

Great thanks! :)

I just wanted to clarify that I don't feed flaxseed for ulcers either. I feed it for the Omega 3's.
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