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Location: Mississsippi | I just recieved my bill from the farm that did the foal out of my mare & l noticed that the also charged a deworming with Ivermectin that same day.
The real problem is that my mare showed signs of colic that day!
Being billed with exact times of exams & drugs given for colic, I have no reason not to believe it was given on this day (this was on a Friday & additional charges entered on Saturday & Sunday). This is a well known place & they bill everything daily.
My question is.....
Is giving a wormer day of foaling good or common?
Could her colic symptoms be a result of this?
I would never do this, but I do not know everything.... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Geezz I would never deworm my mare on the same day of foaling, shes under enought stress as it is, way add to it . Why did the farm think they needed to deworm her at this time? 
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2016-04-06 6:46 PM
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I would guess the colic symptoms were just results of her foaling and the uterus contracting. It is very painful for them. I pasture foal and have for 15 yrs. Last yr was the first time I foaled one in the corral and stayed around on and off all day to see her show some major discomfort. To the point of calling the vet in a panic. They said it was normal or could be normal and to give her Banamine. That fixed her up right away. She was kicking at her tummy and standing stretched out. Poor girl. I felt the same after having my kids though.
I wouldn't deworm the same day as foaling just to be safe, but I really don't think it would cause colic issues unless she was packed full of worms. |
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| When I bred my mare I did as much research as possible and I believe worming with Ivermectin right after foaling prevents scours in the foal. This was not done willy nilly, the farm was doing the job you entrusted to them.
Everything is beginning to move back in to place after being displaced for months. Stands to reason that that can cause discomfort, I sure wouldn't jump to the wormer right off as the cause.
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| It's common to deworming right after foaling. I see no reason why ivermectin would cause colic. Sometimes crap just happens with horses.
Edited by Whiteboy 2016-04-06 7:56 PM
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| rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 7:16 PM When I bred my mare I did as much research as possible and I believe worming with Ivermectin right after foaling prevents scours in the foal. This was not done willy nilly, the farm was doing the job you entrusted to them. Everything is beginning to move back in to place after being displaced for months. Stands to reason that that can cause discomfort, I sure wouldn't jump to the wormer right off as the cause.
I deworm within 24 hours of foaling for that reason. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | kmcsunshine - 2016-04-06 8:12 PM rodeoveteran - 2016-04-06 7:16 PM When I bred my mare I did as much research as possible and I believe worming with Ivermectin right after foaling prevents scours in the foal. This was not done willy nilly, the farm was doing the job you entrusted to them. Everything is beginning to move back in to place after being displaced for months. Stands to reason that that can cause discomfort, I sure wouldn't jump to the wormer right off as the cause. I deworm within 24 hours of foaling for that reason.
Same here, I also always give Banamine as soon as they pass the placenta intact. |
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| The only reason you should worm your broodmare BEFORE FOALING is to kill the worms and eggs she has infested.
NEVER ON TOP OR DIRECTLY AFTER FOALING .. .. mare has had enough stress
without adding more ...
For those that say it helps foal not have scours ... simply wash the drainage from mares heinie that flows between her hind legs to her udder ... this keeps foal from getting a worse case of scours ... called watery scours ... 2 30cc doses of Pepto Bismol 4 hours apart will help solidfy poop when foal first shows signs of scours about the 6th day ..
Giving a foal an enema is the worst thing you can do ... Mother Nature designed the pop out cork in his anus so his digestive system would pressurize and untangles his colon etc as he sucks mama's milk and starts his digestive system..... if done naturally ... first poop will be black as oil with immediate flow of yellow mustard poop which is digested milk ........ too many bad things can happen giving an enema and after an enema ...
to keep his butt from scalding ... rub Vaseline or Furazone on his buttocks ... he will swish poop on them with his tail ... and wash his tail .. lol ..
Worm mare 10-14 days before you think they will foal ... clears the mare of worms // eggs in her poop. Mother Nature requires baby to nibble her poop within 24 hours to start its good gut bacteria in order to digest whole food ... and you
do not want the baby to get a belly full of worm eggs and be wormy while nursing the next 6 months ....
first worming for my babies is at weaning time when they are a full
6 months old ... and then it is for round worms only ... this is my preferred wormer.. (no Safeguard or Panacur used at my barn )
http://www.jefferspet.com/products/exodus-paste?via=5338848b9fa2600...
It seems that so many things get reversed for no good reason when it comes to horses .... guess it is like playing that word of mouth game ... by the time the message gets to the end of the line it is totally different ...
GOOD LUCK TO ALL WITH YOUR BABIES ...
Have a spray bottle with iodine in it to give naval a good wetting down soon after foaling and again in a few hours ... wearing gloves is a good idea ... lol ..
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Location: Where I am happiest | Research has shown mares pass worms to their foals as soon as the cholostrom changes to milk. The worms come through the mamory glands. Research has also proven foal scours are due to worm's. Therefor, worming with zimectrin within 12 hours of foaling is a recommended and advocated practice. We always worm 30 days prior to foaling and with plain zimectrin right after foaling. The colic symptoms your mare displayed was due to the post partem contractions, not due to the worming. Your mare care farm were following proper protocal. Thank them. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Yes, this happens all the time. Not a problem. The wormer does not even take a ton of effect for a few days (its not like within hours essentially), so I doubt it would have caused any colic symptoms. |
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Location: TEXAS | We've always wormed our mares immediately after foaling. None of ours ever showed signs of colic after. |
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Worming the same day as foaling?