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| Has anyone delt with cronic renal failure in a horse and has had any good turnout from it? My mare coliced last week and then recovered and went into a state of severe depression. We got blood work ran on her and her creatinine counts came back at 10 and her BUN at 84. We immediately put her on fluids for three days and retested her. All of her counts came back comepletely normal so we thought she was ok again. I got her tested again on monday and all of her counts are higher than they were before. She is doing ok physically but i know what the outcome is usually for this sort of thing. Does anyone have any hopefull advise of treatment options that I could try? Anything helps! |
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  Whack and Roll
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Location: NE Texas | No advice, but just wanted to offer you big hugs and postive thoughts for your mare.  |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I hope she hangs in there |
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| You might want to talk to Run n Rate on here and do a search for her "Kidney Journey". She might be able to help with what worked for her horse. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | My mare has kidney stones, we found them by ultra sound when having a pre-op for a bladder stone that had been found previously. She had several stones in her left kidney, one stuck in the uretor but right kidney was clear. She had the big stone in her bladder and also 2 small stones. The vets originally handed me the lead rope back and said to take her home and put her down when the pain got too bad. I went home and checked into every alternative treatment I could and decided on Equine Natural Care herbs kidney plus formula, the biggest reason was because they sent me a list of what was in it and why, something I couldn't get from any other company. We also found because of the stones that her immune system and lymph system were also compromised so I put her on those herbs also, plus some essential oils, Chanca Peidra, and had her bioscanned a couple times a month as we noticed that she urinated more freely for several days after having a treatment. After 6 months of herbs, we took her back in and had her ultra sounded again, she only had 2 stones in the left kidney, the one in the uretor was gone as were the 2 small stones in her bladder at which time the vets agreed to doing the lithrotripsy so remove the big bladder stone. Her six month check up showed no knew stones forming in either her bladder or her kidneys. She is still on the kidney herbs and I still do the bioscan treatments also. I had spoken to Destiny Shaw Crane in regards to my mare also before I decided on a treatment course, apparently she had had a futurity horse with kidney issues, they did essential oils and accuscope on him and I believe she said that they retired him when he was 18 due to a pasture injury but he was still alive and going in the field at 22. |
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| Thank you guys. I am hoping for the best. Her attitude is possitive so as long as she is willing to fight im not giving up! |
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Balance Beam and more...
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Location: 31 lengths farms | What are you feeding her also? |
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Whack and Roll
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Location: NE Texas | How is your mare doing Cheywall? Hope she is improving! |
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| Shes is doings better. Still very concerning does not want to eat or drink much but is looking happier. I have hope for her. |
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Location: Arkansas | Cheywall - 2016-04-07 8:35 PM
Thank you guys. I am hoping for the best. Her attitude is possitive so as long as she is willing to fight im not giving up!
Prayers for your mare---and I totally agree that as long as she's hanging in and not giving up then you're doing the right thing by fighting for her |
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Location: Armuchee, GA, NW section of Ga | Yes, i had a bucket baby that i helped pull into this world. I raised him, he was a beautiful sorrel with flaxen main n tail. Beautiful. At age two, he was a perfect two year old gelding that went into kidney failure. He would not eat, would not drink much. I tried every type of feed, treats, apples, carrots, grain, hay, anything & everything. My vet ran tests, pulled blood, consulted with everyone....but. He quickly went down hill dispite all efforts of my vet, and myself. He looked like a walking bag of bones under a heavy winter coat. But he still seemed to want to live until January 18th. My vet said he would tell me when enough was enough, and Patrick did. That morning he let me know that he was ready. I called my vet, he came out early, Patrick went to the door of his stall, looked out, breathed in the cold air, and together we walked out towards his hill in his paddock. At this time even walking was difficult. But he did for me. My vet, my friend, put him down and i said goodbye talking to him, stroking him as he crossed over. So, yes, i do know kidney failure. Also of note, my husband was in kidney failure and on dialysis for a few years before having a kidney transplant last May. He is doing great now, a new life in fact. So i do know failure of kidneys. Best of luck. |
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Location: MT | I had to put down my barrel horse last fall. He was not able to hold weight no matter what we did because of decreased kidney function. His body was just starting to shut down. I was able to keep him going for about a year and a half after we figured out what was going on with him. At the end, it was easy to tell that it was time. 
Hoping for a better outcome for your horse.
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Balance Beam and more...
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Before you give up please try the kidney herbs, and since she isnt' really wanting to eat mix them with water and syringe them to her. Try one bag and see if you can get her some relief. |
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Location: MT | I will say that the SLH kidney herbs helped my horse a lot. He had some other issues (heart troubles) that contributed to his kidneys not working correctly.
Really monitor what he is eating and what causes him to flare up. There was a lot of things mine just could not handle. He could do Standlee timothy pellets, pasture grass, rolled oats (small amount), SLH kidney herbs and Renew Gold. Senior feed was off the charts bad for him. Also, beet pulp and alfalfa was not something he could handle. |
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Whack and Roll
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Location: NE Texas | Still thinking about you and your mare and will continue to send my thoughts and prayers for her recovery! |
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Last November when Cowboy was in the hospital for colitis/salmonella there was a gelding there with kidney failure, coincidentally and unforunately one I knew. I do not believe he was brought in intime, and regretfully did not make it.
Many sent for your mare. |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | Wondering how your mare is today |
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| Shes been holding up pretty good over the last little while, put on some more weight and was happy again. Within the past couple days she has lost all the weight again, hoping its just because of the cold front that rolled in.... Doing all we can. |
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Location: MT | That is kind of how my gelding was. He would do well and then have a setback. Usually his setback had some sort of cause, i.e. intake of something his kidneys couldn't properly process. It's really frustrating! |
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| Just thought I woudl give everyone an update. My mare has yet to stop amazing me. It has been 5 months since her diganosis and she is getting better everyday. I have all hope that we are going to make it though this thing!
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I had a stud founder, quit eating and drinking at the end thus ruining his kidneys. We had no idea he was foundering at first. He had the symptoms of an abscess within about 4 hrs of buying him. He was put down. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Cheywall - 2016-08-24 9:57 AM
Just thought I woudl give everyone an update. My mare has yet to stop amazing me. It has been 5 months since her diganosis and she is getting better everyday. I have all hope that we are going to make it though this thing!
She looks amazing...what all did you end up doing for her? Feed, supplement ???? |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | She looks wonderful, so you must be on the right track! |
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Location: Colorado | My mare coliced and did this exact same thing. She would be good then have bad days and then go back to being good. I did whatever it took to keep her happy, eating and drinking. It was emotionally exhausting and physically as well. I spent many endless nights in the barn with her, researching things to do and crying alot.
I would do it all over again in a heartbeat if I could. She held on for a year after the first initial blood work came back and then she let me know she was done fighting. I miss her everyday and still wish there was more I could have done for her. So I offer my prayers that yours has a great outcome <3
My vet and I knew what caused it from the beginning. He was on another call so the place I was boarding her at had their barn vet out and he ignored the stall sign and the owner of the barn and basically dosed her 4x the amount of banamine that her body required, She was a lightweight and never needed a full dose of anything.
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Location: Florida | From a human standpoint I have been hospitalized with kidney failure twice. I have learned that if I get muscle cramps or dark urine I start drinking lots of water, night and day. Also drink cranberry juice and I take magnesium pills. Try flavoring her water to get her to drink more and give her a magnesium supplement. Wet down her hay and maybe feed. Fluids are the cure. |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | brande01 - 2016-08-26 10:34 AM
My mare coliced and did this exact same thing. She would be good then have bad days and then go back to being good. I did whatever it took to keep her happy, eating and drinking. It was emotionally exhausting and physically as well. I spent many endless nights in the barn with her, researching things to do and crying alot.
I would do it all over again in a heartbeat if I could. She held on for a year after the first initial blood work came back and then she let me know she was done fighting. I miss her everyday and still wish there was more I could have done for her. So I offer my prayers that yours has a great outcome <3
My vet and I knew what caused it from the beginning. He was on another call so the place I was boarding her at had their barn vet out and he ignored the stall sign and the owner of the barn and basically dosed her 4x the amount of banamine that her body required, She was a lightweight and never needed a full dose of anything.
Condolences on your mare. Just heartbreaking.
Also checking in on the OP's horse. . . . |
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| Its been awhile since ive been on here, my apologies. Thank you all so much for the encouragement and kind thoughts. Its been 9 months and one week since her diagnosis (but who's counting). I have never seen a horse with so much drive in my life. She amazes me every day. We live in southern Montana and have had very cold weather this year, suppose to be -30 tonight. I figured this was going to be the determination on everything. If she could survive this she can make it though anything. To my amazement she is as fat and happy as ever and loves spending her time racing around the pasture with a new three year old I got to keep her company. I still believe that the main reason for her survival is the will to stay alive for me. I currently feed her local grass has since everything is covered with two feet of snow and add Stretegy Gx to her diet mostly because it gives her the extra push to gain weight in the cold as well as she loves it. I am also giving her alfalfa in moderation only about one flake on the nights where its negative degrease out just for extra warmth. I continue to think that she was just poisoned and has now rebooted her system due to the fact that she acts completely fine now but my vet assures me that she is only found a stable place the live for a while and that it will catch up to her. Either way she is happier than ever right now and makes me the luckiest person in the world as far as I am concerned. If anyone has any further suggestions please let me know! I promise to start checking this a lot more often and will post videos of new now! Thank you guys for everything.
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| I am just crying my eyes out reading all of the stories, been there too. Think we must be crazy sometimes. |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | Yea for some good news  |
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