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*Forget the old system!
I am not a fan of the ERA, or how they went about what they went about.....but i have to admit, this is kinda a cool concept....
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Location: Texas | That's a nice concept, similar to the American. |
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| When I lived in Dallas, I had season tickets to Mesquite Rodeo. Looks like a good move. |
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| Very cool concept! |
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Location: The edge of no where | I like it! It always takes time to work the kinks out of something new. I applaud them for trying to build something. |
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| The only backlash I suspect they will get is from people out of state having to travel to Mesquite to try and qualify. THIS IS THE NEW QUALIFICATIONS SYSTEM...the old one, where you had to designate which rodeos you wanted to count, that had to have all the events, at least 5k added...all that....that is out the window now. This is the new system.
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| It's about time they attempt to stand on their own two feet. The piggy backing off the PRCA rodeos would have required a ton of hauling to compete in those big money rodeos. Most of them are limited to card members only.
With this system, it looks like anyone can enter and you have a month or two in between the qualifiers. This is a MUCH better concept, even for the people that live further away. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | You have to realize....this was their FIRST year....there are bound to be hiccups and better ideas.....The PRCA, WPRA, IPRA, and every other rodeo association on earth change their rules every year and try to better their concept....  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-04-14 1:54 PM You have to realize....this was their FIRST year....there are bound to be hiccups and better ideas.....The PRCA, WPRA, IPRA, and every other rodeo association on earth change their rules every year and try to better their concept....
This ^^^^ , give them a chance to find any errors or as NJJ said hiccups so that they can improve themselves as time gos by.. Being the first year is the hardest |
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| So it's open to everyone ... who lives close enough to get to Mesquite or doesn't have a M-F 9-5 job so they can drive to Mesquite. Better concept, but they need to offer it in just more than 1 area. |
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| 3 To Go - 2016-04-14 5:04 PM So it's open to everyone ... who lives close enough to get to Mesquite or doesn't have a M-F 9-5 job so they can drive to Mesquite. Better concept, but they need to offer it in just more than 1 area.
I guess they figure if you can't get to a couple rodeos in Texas, you're probably not Elite. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | TXBO - 2016-04-15 9:56 AM 3 To Go - 2016-04-14 5:04 PM So it's open to everyone ... who lives close enough to get to Mesquite or doesn't have a M-F 9-5 job so they can drive to Mesquite. Better concept, but they need to offer it in just more than 1 area. I guess they figure if you can't get to a couple rodeos in Texas, you're probably not Elite.
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| They should have done something like this from the beginning. They would have had less trouble. I bet there are other established rodeo series like Mesquite in other areas of the country that would hook up with the ERA too. I wonder why they didn't go this route in the beginning? |
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| Way to go ERA. Picking up steam. I am excited to see how this association grows. Everything doesn't happen overnight. |
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| sodapop - 2016-04-15 10:58 PM
They should have done something like this from the beginning. They would have had less trouble. I bet there are other established rodeo series like Mesquite in other areas of the country that would hook up with the ERA too. I wonder why they didn't go this route in the beginning?
Good point. I think they were a bit wrapped up in themsleves and didn't anticipate the reaction they received from the PRCA. I agree that possibly if they would have spent more time recruiting series around the country similar to Mesquite there may have been less backlash.
Also this helps the guys that went with the ERA that could use a paycheck from from time to time at other rodeos. If you traveled to the last 2 ERA rodeos and didn't get but 1 check, you probably didn't pay for your trips, especially for the ropers. I worry about those that aren't Trevor or Fallon making. Ultimately if the do well in Dallas they may be fine, but there are bills to be paid before November.
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | If the qualifying is open to the world, you obviously don't have to be a PRCA or WPRA cardholder, right? Does this mean the the MEN can finally compete in the barrels if they choose to enter the qualifiers? Or is there fine print somewhere that I'm missing? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 12:52 PM If the qualifying is open to the world, you obviously don't have to be a PRCA or WPRA cardholder, right? Does this mean the the MEN can finally compete in the barrels if they choose to enter the qualifiers? Or is there fine print somewhere that I'm missing?
Can men enter the rodeos at Mesquite? If not, I highly doubt that they will be able to compete as they wouldn't have if they had stayed with the original format (WPRA rodeos counting). |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | NJJ - 2016-04-16 2:17 PM barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 12:52 PM If the qualifying is open to the world, you obviously don't have to be a PRCA or WPRA cardholder, right? Does this mean the the MEN can finally compete in the barrels if they choose to enter the qualifiers? Or is there fine print somewhere that I'm missing? Can men enter the rodeos at Mesquite? If not, I highly doubt that they will be able to compete as they wouldn't have if they had stayed with the original format (WPRA rodeos counting).
I don't know what rules or governing body sactions/runs Mesquite. I'm not a rodeo competitior, just a fan. So when i see the format that says "open to the world", it doesn't list any gender or age restrictions, so I would assume it's everybody. The link also didn't mention what rules will be followed. Like with the American, it clearly states that BBR rules will apply for the barrels. I hope you don't think I'm trying to argue, just interested to watch this all un-fold and my very first thought when I opened the link was that the guys can compete in the barrels and thought maybe somebody would know. |
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Location: Texas | barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 3:36 PM NJJ - 2016-04-16 2:17 PM barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 12:52 PM If the qualifying is open to the world, you obviously don't have to be a PRCA or WPRA cardholder, right? Does this mean the the MEN can finally compete in the barrels if they choose to enter the qualifiers? Or is there fine print somewhere that I'm missing? Can men enter the rodeos at Mesquite? If not, I highly doubt that they will be able to compete as they wouldn't have if they had stayed with the original format (WPRA rodeos counting).
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | RocketPilot - 2016-04-16 7:57 PM barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 3:36 PM NJJ - 2016-04-16 2:17 PM barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 12:52 PM If the qualifying is open to the world, you obviously don't have to be a PRCA or WPRA cardholder, right? Does this mean the the MEN can finally compete in the barrels if they choose to enter the qualifiers? Or is there fine print somewhere that I'm missing? Can men enter the rodeos at Mesquite? If not, I highly doubt that they will be able to compete as they wouldn't have if they had stayed with the original format (WPRA rodeos counting).
Exactly my thought. They aren't following any real set of rules yet (at least that I can find) and if there are no age restrictions, I don't see anything that has gender restrictions. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | barlracr429 - 2016-04-17 11:24 AM RocketPilot - 2016-04-16 7:57 PM barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 3:36 PM NJJ - 2016-04-16 2:17 PM barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 12:52 PM If the qualifying is open to the world, you obviously don't have to be a PRCA or WPRA cardholder, right? Does this mean the the MEN can finally compete in the barrels if they choose to enter the qualifiers? Or is there fine print somewhere that I'm missing? Can men enter the rodeos at Mesquite? If not, I highly doubt that they will be able to compete as they wouldn't have if they had stayed with the original format (WPRA rodeos counting).
Rodeo athletes can earn points by placing at any rodeo they choose that fits the ERA’s definition of an approved rodeo (see definition below). The qualifying system can be broken down into 4 steps:
Join, Declare, Win=Points, Compete at Dallas
Join: Any athlete desiring to earn one of the two event qualifier spots at the World Championships will join by going to Qualifying Registration page (COMING SOON) and registering to become an ERA Qualifier. At that time, each athlete registering will be given a secured login to his or her Qualifier page. - Declare: On their personal secured login qualifier page, each athlete can declare the rodeos they would like for ERA to count towards their qualifying points. This must be done 24 hours before the beginning competition in the event you are designating and meet the ERA’s qualifying rodeo requirements. Athlete can only designate 15 rodeos to count towards their point standings.
- Win=Points: After the completion of the declared rodeo, the qualifier will earn points based on any paid place they receive. Points will be given in all rounds where they won a paid place.
- Compete at Dallas: Athletes that find themselves in the top 2 of their event’s standings at the end of the qualifying race will advance to the 2016 ERA World Championships in Dallas, Texas.
DEFINING QUALIFYING RODEOS
-Must have all 7 standard rodeo disciplines, unless competition is an ERA approved event. - Bareback Riding
- Steer Wrestling
- Saddle Bronc Riding
- Tie-down Roping
- Team Roping
- Bull Riding
- Barrel Racing
– Must have a minimum of $5,000.00 added money in the event that you are declaring points in.
– The rodeo may not have limits less than 36 entries per discipline.
– Can be any organization or open rodeo whose results are public and verifiable.
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | Ok I am a little confused. I thought that the earlier qualifying system pertained to who gets to go on the tour and enter their rodeos.
This isn't about qualification for the tour but qualifications for the finals?? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | ksjackofalltrades - 2016-04-17 3:39 PM Ok I am a little confused. I thought that the earlier qualifying system pertained to who gets to go on the tour and enter their rodeos.
This isn't about qualification for the tour but qualifications for the finals?? The way that I understand it........Every year the "bottom three" drop from the roster and can be replaced through the qualifying system for the next year's rodeos?
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | NJJ - 2016-04-17 4:29 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2016-04-17 3:39 PM Ok I am a little confused. I thought that the earlier qualifying system pertained to who gets to go on the tour and enter their rodeos.
This isn't about qualification for the tour but qualifications for the finals?? The way that I understand it........Every year the "bottom three" drop from the roster and can be replaced through the qualifying system for the next year's rodeos?
So they still are letting 3 in from the original qualifying criteria? I would guess that the only way the Mesquite qualifiers could make the tour would be to have a good enough finals that they moved ahead of at least 3 of the original qualifiers. That would mean that 4 would get dropped? The bottom 4 would be dropped if one of the Mesquite qualifiers had a great finals. It is confusing for sure. |
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| ksjackofalltrades - 2016-04-17 7:09 PM NJJ - 2016-04-17 4:29 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2016-04-17 3:39 PM Ok I am a little confused. I thought that the earlier qualifying system pertained to who gets to go on the tour and enter their rodeos.
This isn't about qualification for the tour but qualifications for the finals?? The way that I understand it........Every year the "bottom three" drop from the roster and can be replaced through the qualifying system for the next year's rodeos?
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| I think the changing of contestants happens after the Finals, based on performance/money won their? I thought that's what the original plan was? |
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| NJJ - 2016-04-16 1:17 PM barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 12:52 PM If the qualifying is open to the world, you obviously don't have to be a PRCA or WPRA cardholder, right? Does this mean the the MEN can finally compete in the barrels if they choose to enter the qualifiers? Or is there fine print somewhere that I'm missing? Can men enter the rodeos at Mesquite? If not, I highly doubt that they will be able to compete as they wouldn't have if they had stayed with the original format (WPRA rodeos counting).
Mesquite has changed it's format several times over the last 10 years. It has been an open rodeo at times. I have never seen a male barrel racer but I have seen women participate in both roping and roughstock events. |
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Location: Texas | TXBO - 2016-04-18 11:23 AM NJJ - 2016-04-16 1:17 PM barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 12:52 PM If the qualifying is open to the world, you obviously don't have to be a PRCA or WPRA cardholder, right? Does this mean the the MEN can finally compete in the barrels if they choose to enter the qualifiers? Or is there fine print somewhere that I'm missing? Can men enter the rodeos at Mesquite? If not, I highly doubt that they will be able to compete as they wouldn't have if they had stayed with the original format (WPRA rodeos counting).
The rodeo was a UPRA rodeo one year but I don't think it was an open rodeo. This year, with just the Saturday only performance, the slack could last all day. Should be interesting. |
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| RocketPilot - 2016-04-18 12:46 PM TXBO - 2016-04-18 11:23 AM NJJ - 2016-04-16 1:17 PM barlracr429 - 2016-04-16 12:52 PM If the qualifying is open to the world, you obviously don't have to be a PRCA or WPRA cardholder, right? Does this mean the the MEN can finally compete in the barrels if they choose to enter the qualifiers? Or is there fine print somewhere that I'm missing? Can men enter the rodeos at Mesquite? If not, I highly doubt that they will be able to compete as they wouldn't have if they had stayed with the original format (WPRA rodeos counting).
Right before Hicks sold out, it was open not UPRA. |
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Mesquite, Texas Rodeo Series gets on board with ERA for NEW Qualifications system