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| What is the process that your farrier goes through for resetting shoes.
Specifically does he do any reshaping of the shoe and does he use a rasp on the toes after the shoe is reset (1/8-3/16" of toe being rasped) |
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| OhMax - 2016-04-27 10:26 AM
What is the process that your farrier goes through for resetting shoes.
Specifically does he do any reshaping of the shoe and does he use a rasp on the toes after the shoe is reset (1/8-3/16" of toe being rasped)
By reset you mean use the same shoes twice? Mine puts brand spanking new shoes on every time they are shod. I wouldn't allow a reset on performance horses. Maybe a pasture pet but by 8-9 weeks is up mine need new ones. My current farrier is extremely detail oriented. it takes about 1:45-2 hours to shoe ONE horse. Each foot gets a shoe specifically made, and shaped for that horse and their needs. I have seen him nail the shoe and rasp a little toe off before yes. |
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| If the horse isnt being ridden and the shoe is not worn any then it is fine to reset them but yes they should have to be reshaped because the horses foot spreads the shoe out over time. The rest of the process should be the same as if you got new shoes. But, unless your getting a discount, I would ask for brand new. |
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 The Bling Princess
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      Location: North Dakota | My farrier resets my performance horse every 6 weeks and will often use the shoes again. We have a lot of sand around my place and the arenas we go to are pretty sandy too, so his shoes don't wear a whole lot. He will normally heat them up in his forge, reshape them, and tack them back on the foot. He always rasps off a little toe and cleans up the edges. |
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Sock Snob
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| my farrier says reseting shoes they have broken them in. i have reset mine several times makes no difference. |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| I'm not sure of my current farrier's process for a reset because I just got a new guy this spring.
My old farrier would reset (with the discount!). He would basically do the same things he did the first time. Trim, rasp, shape shoe, clean it all up with rasp, etc.
I would be concerned with someone who didn't do that each and every time.
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   Location: Roping pen | Every one that does this, has a different opinion. My opinion, after 30+years of doing this, is that why would you not use new shoes each time? It might take another few minutes as you might have to shape a new shoe a little more, but most of the time, you have to reshape the old shoe anyway.
The main reason, is that the nail holes wear more than the toe or heels of the shoe. IF the nails are not tight in the shoe, a very, very good chance that the shoe will fail or get pulled off. IF the nail holes are still tight around the nail (nail does not fall below the level of the shoe), than you might get by ok.
For the $2 a shoe, it is not worth my time to replace nor the risk/damage to the foot of losing a shoe.
As far as rasping the toe, some do more than others. To me, it depends on the horse. IF he overreaches, IMO, you need to set the shoe back 1/8" or so to allow quicker break over on mainly performance horses on fronts only. Also, moving the shoe back a little on the fronts, allows weight to be transferred back off the toe--but only 1/8" or so. RULE #1 in doing this, is to take no more off the outside of the hoof than what will grow out and be cut off next reset. It is wrong, IMO, to rasp more off the outside then what will grow out next time as you are thinning the hoof wall and asking for issues.
Most horses that don't overreach, I don't take much off at all but still rasp the outside-but never above the nails. I had an old timer tell me that if you rasp the entire foot, like some do, that you are actually destroying the laminate of the hoof wall and it's ability to absorb moisture. That outside shine was important to him.
Had another long time shoer, that mostly did mountain horses, would square the front toe real sharp. His opinion was that allowed less side to side ankle flex on breakover...
But you know what opinions are like so good luck!!! |
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 Serious Snap Trapper
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       Location: In The Snow, AZ | My farrier always gives me the option, if the shoe is still fairly unused. He says I can "save a little money" that way. I've only ever had him reuse a shoe on the gelding that has basically taken vacation since I bought him. I will never reuse a shoe for my mare.
Regardless, he trims the foot, reshape a the shoe, cleans everything up, and rasps when he's done. Just as he would if it was a new shoe. |
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 Balance Beam and more...
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    Location: 31 lengths farms | The only time my farrier resets the same shoe is if they are in the first few weeks of a shoeing and somehow pulled a shoe, other than that he always shoes with fresh shoes. If he does do a reset, like this winter my gelding pulled his left shoe abut 2 weeks after a fresh shoeing, he rasped slightly where the clip had chipped the foot as it came off, double checked that the foot was balanced, worked the shoe a little as it twisted slightly coming off, couldnt' reheat it as it had a full pad riveted to it, but did heat another shoe, reburn the edges and then reset the shoe. Even when Tucker was on rest he never reset old shoes, nor has he on any of the others either.
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        Location: Idaho | I think it really depends on how much wear and tear your horse has on their feet... I use allimunium and I never reset my shoes. I always buy new shoes and we always start fresh. I have sandy ground and my trails are also very sandy, however, I like the traction and support my horses get with new shoes. Usually 6-7 weeks is what my performance horses are on, to keep them balanced and moving correctly. My boyfriend is a farrier and he takes each horse into account before recommending a reset. If they are just sitting in the pasture without much wear and tear, he might suggest it to help save on cost, but in reality, shoes are $2 a shoe and you aren't saving a whole lot. My alluminum cost $12 for a full set, so I'd rather spend the extra money and make sure my horses get their feet done with fresh shoes. He hardly ever has anyone asking for a reset that he works with. 90% of his clients are trail riders and wait 9-10 weeks on shoes. Each to their own.  |
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| Thanks all. We reset this first time because they haven't had much wear, we haven't been able to ride a ton. Over the summer when they're being worked more we'll use new more often although I don't notice a difference and no one is losing shoes.
Question answered though. thanks |
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 Born not Made
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       Location: North Dakota | As long as the shoes are still in good condition, my farrier will reset them and use them again. I have no problem with it. If the shoe is still "like new" I don't see any reason why it cannot be used again. I use steel shoes and most of my riding is done on grass, so I really don't wear them down much.
Shoe will be re-shaped as needed, and of course the foot trimmed/rasped as needed.
Once I got my horse's lameness issues under control, he quit pulling/bending as many shoes. But it didn't matter whether it was a brand new shoe, or a "used" one. They get pulled off the same. He pulled or bent both new and old shoes.
Edited by r_beau 2016-04-29 9:51 AM
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 Namesless in BHW
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       Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | We do new shoes every time, but we also use aluminum race plates so they will wear faster than steel shoes. |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | When resetting, the shoe ALWAYS needs to be reshaped... |
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