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| I am going to be offering this mare for sale soon and would like to get some pricing advice from my BHW people. I dont want to over/under price her. What would you say is fair? I know there is a forum for that but it doesn't get a lot of hits. Details to follow.. When I post her for sale proper pics will be taken :)
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/little+bit+o+leo Pedigree
2005 AQHA Mare
22% Leo
14.1 HH
Very broke super soft in the mouth, moves off your feet.
Very catty. HUGE MOTOR
Patterend on the barrels and entered only a couple of times. Ran in the 4D her first time entered with 300 entries, just cruised through. Bendy Style.
Is started well on the heel side. Was used to day work/ doctor calves before coming to the arena.
She has been turned out for a while but currently being legged back up.
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Location: Somewhere around here | I would say around 5k/6k, a little more if the area you live in sells pricier horses. |
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Location: MD | 3,500. She's small, she's red, she's a mare and she's only in the 4D right now. Put feelers out via word of mouth you may find someone who's been looking for a horse just like her. |
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| I've seen a quite a few of these types of horses listed from anywhere from $2500 to $8500. I would say if she is finished on the barrels and easy to ride and good trail horse, all around type, I would price her in mid range ($4500-5500). If she is tricky to ride or spooky or anything like that I would price her lower on that range. I wouldn't price her much above $5500just because of her size, not that it should matter but you have a smaller population I feel like.
ETA you also have the "plain jane" thing not in your favor. Again, it shouldn't matter but people tend to look passed the "plain red wrapper."
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Location: Kentucky | CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 12:11 PM 3,500. She's small, she's red, she's a mare and she's only in the 4D right now. Put feelers out via word of mouth you may find someone who's been looking for a horse just like her.
Curious - are small, red, mares lesser valued? |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Do you have a better picture of her? We might price her more correctly if we could see her conformation better. |
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Location: WI | At that age, I feel you have to price the horse for what it is performance wise. Not what it could be. So, you have an 11yo mare runs 4D. $3-5k
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Location: Where I am happiest | Curious what the reason was she was turned out? My advice, is get her legged back up and get her to some races. Yeah she's a solid sorrel and small but she is CUTE!! Weak pedigree and 11 years old with really no "career". More races would help so she's more solid BUT, you will look at months more time on her to garner a higher price but then how much higher can you get with a couple more months? Depends on how talented she really is. Right now, as she is I would say $3500 and willing to deal to the right home because bottom line is, she isnt finished in anything so is a 11 year old prospect in everything. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I'm the odd ball here I like the plain Jane red and bay horses and since shes super broke and ready to move on to a job and patterend on barrels and did work cattle, I would say 3500.00 to 4000.00, but she is a little shorter then I like, but I do like her looks and that she is ready to go. Just depends on whos looking and what they want to spend. 
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| cecollins0811 - 2016-04-28 11:22 AM Do you have a better picture of her? We might price her more correctly if we could see her conformation better. Im afraid I only have a pic of her grazing, and one under saddle. Neither were snapped with maketing in mind. :( DEF going to have a photoshoot in the coming days.
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Location: MD | Murphy - 2016-04-28 11:14 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 12:11 PM 3,500. She's small, she's red, she's a mare and she's only in the 4D right now. Put feelers out via word of mouth you may find someone who's been looking for a horse just like her. Curious - are small, red, mares lesser valued?
Bigger flashier geldings always sell better. She looks like a nice horse but for selling value she's not as appealing as say a buckskin gelding standing 15.1. Even though she may be a nicer horse than the gelding. |
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| I'm a huge fan of the old Leo bred horses.
If I was wanting to raise babies for myself, I'd buy her and breed her.
She's super cute, good luck!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | scwebster - 2016-04-28 11:35 AM cecollins0811 - 2016-04-28 11:22 AM Do you have a better picture of her? We might price her more correctly if we could see her conformation better. Im afraid I only have a pic of her grazing, and one under saddle. Neither were snapped with maketing in mind. :( DEF going to have a photoshoot in the coming days.
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| ThreeCorners - 2016-04-28 11:29 AM Curious what the reason was she was turned out? My advice, is get her legged back up and get her to some races. Yeah she's a solid sorrel and small but she is CUTE!! Weak pedigree and 11 years old with really no "career". More races would help so she's more solid BUT, you will look at months more time on her to garner a higher price but then how much higher can you get with a couple more months? Depends on how talented she really is. Right now, as she is I would say $3500 and willing to deal to the right home because bottom line is, she isnt finished in anything so is a 11 year old prospect in everything. I have a toddler and usually only have time to ride 1. I have a finished horse, so that ride time goes to him . I had big plans for this mare but she keeps going on the back burner, which is why I have decided I need to let her go to someone who will use her. As far as her pedigree, it is not a barrel racing pedigree. Shes foundation bred.Realy old lines. The lady that owned The Money Depot (now standing and owned by JB Quarter horses) bred this little mare.
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| CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 11:36 AM Murphy - 2016-04-28 11:14 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 12:11 PM 3,500. She's small, she's red, she's a mare and she's only in the 4D right now. Put feelers out via word of mouth you may find someone who's been looking for a horse just like her. Curious - are small, red, mares lesser valued?
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-04-28 11:40 AM scwebster - 2016-04-28 11:35 AM cecollins0811 - 2016-04-28 11:22 AM Do you have a better picture of her? We might price her more correctly if we could see her conformation better. Im afraid I only have a pic of her grazing, and one under saddle. Neither were snapped with maketing in mind. :( DEF going to have a photoshoot in the coming days.
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| linds - 2016-04-28 11:27 AM At that age, I feel you have to price the horse for what it is performance wise. Not what it could be. So, you have an 11yo mare runs 4D. $3-5k
If you want more, you'll have to prove her - either in higher D's or in the roping pen.
Agree, I think I am going to have to buckle down and take her with me to the jackpots. I know she will move up in the Ds. I need to get her name in some results. |
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Location: Kentucky | CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 12:36 PM Murphy - 2016-04-28 11:14 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 12:11 PM 3,500. She's small, she's red, she's a mare and she's only in the 4D right now. Put feelers out via word of mouth you may find someone who's been looking for a horse just like her. Curious - are small, red, mares lesser valued?
Interesting that geldings are valued higher. I've never heard that before. |
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Location: Where you need a paddle... Oregon! | Typically a gelding will always sell higher around here. Mares still get a bad rap, although I think I've seen a very tiny improvement over the last 10 years.
Being a mare lover myself, and really liking a solid sorrel that's super short, I think she's pretty cool looking. I have no idea how to price her, but if I were shopping she would tick my boxes as far as size, color and being a mare and she'd be on my short list of horses to look at. |
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Location: Florida.. | I like compact red mares.. did you think about getting her more experienced in the box.. heeling for a JR or a woman.. I think with time shed be worth more then now.. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2016-04-28 4:33 PM I like compact red mares.. did you think about getting her more experienced in the box.. heeling for a JR or a woman.. I think with time shed be worth more then now..
I am hoping to be able to take her to some barrel jackpots. My husband has offered to rope on her more. I may have to send her to the ropings with him too. |
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| barrelracinbroke - 2016-04-28 11:40 AM
I'm a huge fan of the old Leo bred horses.
If I was wanting to raise babies for myself, I'd buy her and breed her.
She's super cute, good luck!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | scwebster - 2016-04-28 5:07 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-28 4:33 PM I like compact red mares.. did you think about getting her more experienced in the box.. heeling for a JR or a woman.. I think with time shed be worth more then now.. I am hoping to be able to take her to some barrel jackpots. My husband has offered to rope on her more. I may have to send her to the ropings with him too.
This is the path that I would take......roping or get someone to haul her to a few sortings and pennings....they like the smaller, "old" lines that will cow..... $3500-$4500 (as she stands) |
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Location: Florida.. | NJJ - 2016-04-28 7:43 PM scwebster - 2016-04-28 5:07 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-28 4:33 PM I like compact red mares.. did you think about getting her more experienced in the box.. heeling for a JR or a woman.. I think with time shed be worth more then now.. I am hoping to be able to take her to some barrel jackpots. My husband has offered to rope on her more. I may have to send her to the ropings with him too.
I agree .. some of my friends are heelers and have small short cowy horses.. id go that route ..and agree about the price as well.. just get her out there. |
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| jake16 - 2016-04-28 9:24 PM She is SUPER CUTE! :)
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| I appreciate all of the feedback. I read each of your comments and they helped a great deal 
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Location: Deep South | Murphy - 2016-04-28 4:03 PM
CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 12:36 PM Murphy - 2016-04-28 11:14 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 12:11 PM 3,500. She's small, she's red, she's a mare and she's only in the 4D right now. Put feelers out via word of mouth you may find someone who's been looking for a horse just like her. Curious - are small, red, mares lesser valued?
In my experience, it's not true as much with barrel racers, especially with barrel/running bred horses. But ranchers/ropers the geldings definitely bring more money.
A perfect example is the WYO Quarter Horse Sale every fall and spring. You can look up the results from the past several years and the geldings consistently way outsell the mares.
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| BamaCanChaser - 2016-04-29 8:39 AM Murphy - 2016-04-28 4:03 PM CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 12:36 PM Murphy - 2016-04-28 11:14 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 12:11 PM 3,500. She's small, she's red, she's a mare and she's only in the 4D right now. Put feelers out via word of mouth you may find someone who's been looking for a horse just like her. Curious - are small, red, mares lesser valued? In my experience, it's not true as much with barrel racers, especially with barrel/running bred horses. But ranchers/ropers the geldings definitely bring more money. A perfect example is the WYO Quarter Horse Sale every fall and spring. You can look up the results from the past several years and the geldings consistently way outsell the mares.
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| Mavers - 2016-04-29 1:38 PM If I had the money, I'd like those lines for a broodmare. I feel like there arent so many with her type of pedigree anymore. It takes a fan of old lines to appreciate her for that :) And just curious, if she was yours what would you breed her to?
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Location: Illinois | CE's wrapn3 - 2016-04-28 10:11 AM
3,500. She's small, she's red, she's a mare and she's only in the 4D right now. Put feelers out via word of mouth you may find someone who's been looking for a horse just like her.
Tell Babyflo that she's a small red mare... |
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scwebster - 2016-04-28 11:35 AM cecollins0811 - 2016-04-28 11:22 AM Do you have a better picture of her? We might price her more correctly if we could see her conformation better. Im afraid I only have a pic of her grazing, and one under saddle. Neither were snapped with maketing in mind. :( DEF going to have a photoshoot in the coming days.
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| Chandler's Mom - 2016-05-01 2:06 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-04-28 11:40 AM scwebster - 2016-04-28 11:35 AM cecollins0811 - 2016-04-28 11:22 AM Do you have a better picture of her? We might price her more correctly if we could see her conformation better. Im afraid I only have a pic of her grazing, and one under saddle. Neither were snapped with maketing in mind. :( DEF going to have a photoshoot in the coming days. I think she's really cute and looks like a very pretty tail in that first picture
Thanks! She does have good hair lol. |
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