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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | THE GastroPLUS (30 scoops $118 shipped) study done on race horses and then ulcer prevent added to either Muscle Mass (80 scoops $78 shipped) or Performance Formula (80 scoops is $68 shipped)
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Location: OH. IO | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-05-04 4:53 PM
THE GastroPLUS (30 scoops $118 shipped) study done on race horses and then ulcer prevent added to either Muscle Mass (80 scoops $78 shipped) or Performance Formula (80 scoops is $68 shipped)
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | tin can - 2016-05-05 3:13 AM Did you quit riding for a couple of weeks or continue working them?
If your comment was towards the pictures I posted, they continued their training. The only change in their life was GastroPLUS was added. Works on gastric and hind gut ulcers |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-05-05 7:37 PM tin can - 2016-05-05 3:13 AM Did you quit riding for a couple of weeks or continue working them? If your comment was towards the pictures I posted, they continued their training. The only change in their life was GastroPLUS was added. Works on gastric and hind gut ulcers
How much GP did they feed during that study and do you know if they dosed it or added it to the feed? Those results are amazing! I knew the GP was good but I don't think I have ever seen those pictures before. Impressive! |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Barnmom - 2016-05-05 8:43 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2016-05-05 7:37 PM tin can - 2016-05-05 3:13 AM Did you quit riding for a couple of weeks or continue working them? If your comment was towards the pictures I posted, they continued their training. The only change in their life was GastroPLUS was added. Works on gastric and hind gut ulcers
Cato was 1/14/11 to 2/16/11
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I can ask on dosage, but I would imagine it is per the bag directions.
Directions per the bag Per 1,000 lbs horse, as a top dress to their horse feed, administer 2 level scoops (20g) per day for the first 5 days, then 1 scoop per day thereafter. For horses in heavy training, administer 2 level scoops twice a day for 10 days, then 1 scoop a day thereafter. |
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| Equi-Sure by Pro Earth Animal Health. A lot of people who use this are able to take their horses off all other GI meds. https://proearthanimalhealth.com/product/equi-sure/
It works better and ends up being around $1.50-$2/dose give or take depending on the bottle size you order. Also makes them eat and drink on the road. Just a great product. I've used it for 2 years, took my horse off of it this spring simply because I ran out and didn't order more, and had a noticeable difference in my horse, body composition and behavior. I give it every day for about a week to start off, then just once weekly, once before they get on the trailer, and right before I warm up. Some people use it every day. Also, it has colloidal silver, so it prevents illness. I know humans who take it as well, it's that good. Can't say enough about it. |
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| They were allowed to take any medication that they were on No ulcer product except The GastroPLUS they did not change any training regiment. They were dosed 2 scoops for the first 7 day's as a loading dose then one scoop a day until the 90 days were up. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Bob - 2016-05-09 3:05 AM They were allowed to take any medication that they were on No ulcer product except The GastroPLUS they did not change any training regiment. They were dosed 2 scoops for the first 7 day's as a loading dose then one scoop a day until the 90 days were up.
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I gave my horse time off - 28 days on Gastro and during this time put him on SmartGut and changed his feed to RG and added Aloe Vera Juice. Use Ulcer Gard when hauling. Knock on wood, no problem since!
Couple years ago I did not have good luck with Renew Gold but Now that I have got my horses' hind guts working properly I am giving it another whirl on my off the track colt that we just discovered must have had some pretty bad ulcers. He is the type you would NEVER in a MILLION years suspect to be ulcery. Never off feed, slick, shiny, " Appeared" to be relaxed. Vet had me treat with ulcerguard for 2 weeks just to see if there were any performance changes. Let me tell you.... DIFFERENT HORSE. He used to paw at side of the trailer alone, he went from not turning first barrel all the time to PUSH STYLE over and under from a mile away and he inhales it. Stands at trailer like an old kids horse.. Never in a million years. He is an INTERNAL stresser.
Anyway, I am working with vet on best long term plan. No whole grains at all. Back on Renew gold to try. Just waiting to see if I need to give daily Rinitidine or UG. He is on the Depaolo Excel and that really helps to. |
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Thanks! I took a look at that and my current daily daily supplement has all of the same ingredients in it or he has access to same ingredients ( Like the himalayan salt part). LOl I already feed flax, SOy is kind of a no no for some horses so I won't feed it. |
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Thanks! I took a look at that and my current daily daily supplement has all of the same ingredients in it or he has access to same ingredients ( Like the himalayan salt part). LOl I already feed flax, SOy is kind of a no no for some horses so I won't feed it. |
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| I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it |
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Location: Bandera, TX | shilohorse - 2016-05-09 11:41 PM I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it
This! Did your horse have a mane that was flipped? Once I treated with this protocol I noticed my horse felt better and his mane all laid on the same side. I backed off and his mane is flipping again. Not sure if it's his mineral balance or the stomach happy on the Equi-Sure. My two year olds and a OTT QH I'm starting all get it before saddling. I notice a comfortable ride for them and me. |
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I gave my horse time off - 28 days on Gastro and during this time put him on SmartGut and changed his feed to RG and added Aloe Vera Juice. Use Ulcer Gard when hauling. Knock on wood, no problem since!
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Location: Opelousas, LA | uno-dos-tres! - 2016-05-10 8:24 AM shilohorse - 2016-05-09 11:41 PM I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it This! Did your horse have a mane that was flipped? Once I treated with this protocol I noticed my horse felt better and his mane all laid on the same side. I backed off and his mane is flipping again. Not sure if it's his mineral balance or the stomach happy on the Equi-Sure. My two year olds and a OTT QH I'm starting all get it before saddling. I notice a comfortable ride for them and me.
How does the Equi-Sure work? I have a couple of horses that can't tolerate omeprazole and apparently don't do well on ranitidine either. This is the third generation of this female line that we have trained and so far, Succeed has worked best for them. I was going to try GastroPlus again but there are lots of good reviews about equi-sure, and it would be cheaper than succeed or GP if I bought a big bottle. |
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uno-dos-tres! - 2016-05-10 8:24 AM shilohorse - 2016-05-09 11:41 PM I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it This! Did your horse have a mane that was flipped? Once I treated with this protocol I noticed my horse felt better and his mane all laid on the same side. I backed off and his mane is flipping again. Not sure if it's his mineral balance or the stomach happy on the Equi-Sure. My two year olds and a OTT QH I'm starting all get it before saddling. I notice a comfortable ride for them and me.
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uno-dos-tres! - 2016-05-10 8:24 AM shilohorse - 2016-05-09 11:41 PM I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it This! Did your horse have a mane that was flipped? Once I treated with this protocol I noticed my horse felt better and his mane all laid on the same side. I backed off and his mane is flipping again. Not sure if it's his mineral balance or the stomach happy on the Equi-Sure. My two year olds and a OTT QH I'm starting all get it before saddling. I notice a comfortable ride for them and me.
I have heard Equisure is good but it has corn oil as a main ingredient which is highly inflammatory. I called my colts trainer at the track and they keep all their racehorses on finishline U7 Gastric. I just ordered some of that.
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uno-dos-tres! - 2016-05-10 8:24 AM shilohorse - 2016-05-09 11:41 PM I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it This! Did your horse have a mane that was flipped? Once I treated with this protocol I noticed my horse felt better and his mane all laid on the same side. I backed off and his mane is flipping again. Not sure if it's his mineral balance or the stomach happy on the Equi-Sure. My two year olds and a OTT QH I'm starting all get it before saddling. I notice a comfortable ride for them and me.
I have heard Equisure is good but it has corn oil as a main ingredient which is highly inflammatory. I called my colts trainer at the track and they keep all their racehorses on finishline U7 Gastric. I just ordered some of that.
Are you still using Excel by Depaolo?
YEP!!!! I really like the results of the Excel!!!!! My horses love it and do great on it.. My colt we figured has an ulcer from mouth pain ( Long story) and wants him on Ranitidine. The colt is an INTERNAL worrier. I figured I would try the U7 just at recommendation of his track trainer. But heck YES!! Since being on Excel my colt is making smoking runs again. I am very pleased!!!
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Location: Opelousas, LA | FLITASTIC - 2016-05-10 4:52 PM merdth6 - 2016-05-10 2:45 PM FLITASTIC - 2016-05-10 4:33 PM Barnmom - 2016-05-10 1:57 PM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-05-10 8:24 AM shilohorse - 2016-05-09 11:41 PM I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it This! Did your horse have a mane that was flipped? Once I treated with this protocol I noticed my horse felt better and his mane all laid on the same side. I backed off and his mane is flipping again. Not sure if it's his mineral balance or the stomach happy on the Equi-Sure. My two year olds and a OTT QH I'm starting all get it before saddling. I notice a comfortable ride for them and me. I have heard Equisure is good but it has corn oil as a main ingredient which is highly inflammatory. I called my colts trainer at the track and they keep all their racehorses on finishline U7 Gastric. I just ordered some of that. Are you still using Excel by Depaolo? YEP!!!! I really like the results of the Excel!!!!! My horses love it and do great on it.. My colt we figured has an ulcer from mouth pain ( Long story ) and wants him on Ranitidine. The colt is an INTERNAL worrier. I figured I would try the U7 just at recommendation of his track trainer. But heck YES!! Since being on Excel my colt is making smoking runs again. I am very pleased!!!
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FLITASTIC - 2016-05-10 4:52 PM merdth6 - 2016-05-10 2:45 PM FLITASTIC - 2016-05-10 4:33 PM Barnmom - 2016-05-10 1:57 PM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-05-10 8:24 AM shilohorse - 2016-05-09 11:41 PM I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it This! Did your horse have a mane that was flipped? Once I treated with this protocol I noticed my horse felt better and his mane all laid on the same side. I backed off and his mane is flipping again. Not sure if it's his mineral balance or the stomach happy on the Equi-Sure. My two year olds and a OTT QH I'm starting all get it before saddling. I notice a comfortable ride for them and me. I have heard Equisure is good but it has corn oil as a main ingredient which is highly inflammatory. I called my colts trainer at the track and they keep all their racehorses on finishline U7 Gastric. I just ordered some of that. Are you still using Excel by Depaolo? YEP!!!! I really like the results of the Excel!!!!! My horses love it and do great on it.. My colt we figured has an ulcer from mouth pain ( Long story ) and wants him on Ranitidine. The colt is an INTERNAL worrier. I figured I would try the U7 just at recommendation of his track trainer. But heck YES!! Since being on Excel my colt is making smoking runs again. I am very pleased!!!
How much Excel do you give? Even at the 2 scoops twice a day it is around $1.15 a day, just not sure they will eat that much.
I feed it to my horse at 2 scoops twice a day and he eats it all up....licks his bucket clean and he is picky! This is also the first time in a long time he has looked so good, he is still a little cinchy when you tighten the saddle but he now stands when I bring the saddle and set it on him and begin the saddling process, before he moved back and forth. |
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FLITASTIC - 2016-05-10 4:52 PM merdth6 - 2016-05-10 2:45 PM FLITASTIC - 2016-05-10 4:33 PM Barnmom - 2016-05-10 1:57 PM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-05-10 8:24 AM shilohorse - 2016-05-09 11:41 PM I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it This! Did your horse have a mane that was flipped? Once I treated with this protocol I noticed my horse felt better and his mane all laid on the same side. I backed off and his mane is flipping again. Not sure if it's his mineral balance or the stomach happy on the Equi-Sure. My two year olds and a OTT QH I'm starting all get it before saddling. I notice a comfortable ride for them and me. I have heard Equisure is good but it has corn oil as a main ingredient which is highly inflammatory. I called my colts trainer at the track and they keep all their racehorses on finishline U7 Gastric. I just ordered some of that. Are you still using Excel by Depaolo? YEP!!!! I really like the results of the Excel!!!!! My horses love it and do great on it.. My colt we figured has an ulcer from mouth pain ( Long story ) and wants him on Ranitidine. The colt is an INTERNAL worrier. I figured I would try the U7 just at recommendation of his track trainer. But heck YES!! Since being on Excel my colt is making smoking runs again. I am very pleased!!!
How much Excel do you give? Even at the 2 scoops twice a day it is around $1.15 a day, just not sure they will eat that much.
I feed 2 scoops 2x a day to the running horses and 1 scoop 2x a day to the non running ones. My horses lick every bit up!! They actually sift through to get at it first. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | sdlund - 2016-05-10 4:56 PM Mainer-racer - 2016-05-09 6:28 AM I gave my horse time off - 28 days on Gastro and during this time put him on SmartGut and changed his feed to RG and added Aloe Vera Juice. Use Ulcer Gard when hauling. Knock on wood, no problem since! How do you dose you horse with Ulcer Gard when hauling?
I give a quarter of a tube the day before, day of and day after the show. Its worked well. I've used other supplements and for my horses Ulcer Guard works the best. I don't want another $3000 bill! LOL! Plus every tube I buy I get $5.00 back from Merial Rewards program. |
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Location: Montana | Mainer-racer - 2016-05-11 5:23 AM
sdlund - 2016-05-10 4:56 PM Mainer-racer - 2016-05-09 6:28 AM I gave my horse time off - 28 days on Gastro and during this time put him on SmartGut and changed his feed to RG and added Aloe Vera Juice. Use Ulcer Gard when hauling. Knock on wood, no problem since! How do you dose you horse with Ulcer Gard when hauling?
Thank you for the information...I hear you with the expensive vet bill! I know I'm going to have to maintain her forever but would like to do so in a way that I don't break the bank. I gave a whole tube the day before and 1/2 the day of....I'm going to try how you do it and see how it goes.
How much Aloe Vera Juice do you give? |
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| Yesterday I picked up 2 bottles of the 300mg ranitidine pills from my vet. 250 count bottles. Very reasonably priced. Same as ONE tube of gastro guard. I'm going to use these instead for pre race use. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-05-11 8:12 PM Yesterday I picked up 2 bottles of the 300mg ranitidine pills from my vet. 250 count bottles. Very reasonably priced. Same as ONE tube of gastro guard. I'm going to use these instead for pre race use. How many pills are you dosing each time of the 300 mg?
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| How many days off i was going to stay off two weeks. I was thinking of using u-7 for a preventive after the gastro guard. And ulcer guard at shows |
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| WetSaddleBlankets - 2016-05-11 6:39 PM
FLITASTIC - 2016-05-11 8:12 PM Yesterday I picked up 2 bottles of the 300mg ranitidine pills from my vet. 250 count bottles. Very reasonably priced. Same as ONE tube of gastro guard. I'm going to use these instead for pre race use. How many pills are you dosing each time of the 300 mg?
Vet said 10 pills 3,000 mg 2x daily. Or can be given up to 3x daily for ulcer treatment. SHe even said I could give 10 pills 1x a day for a long as I wanted for maintenance. I am hoping I don't have to go that route. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | sdlund - 2016-05-11 4:29 PM Mainer-racer - 2016-05-11 5:23 AM sdlund - 2016-05-10 4:56 PM Mainer-racer - 2016-05-09 6:28 AM I gave my horse time off - 28 days on Gastro and during this time put him on SmartGut and changed his feed to RG and added Aloe Vera Juice. Use Ulcer Gard when hauling. Knock on wood, no problem since! How do you dose you horse with Ulcer Gard when hauling? Thank you for the information...I hear you with the expensive vet bill! I know I'm going to have to maintain her forever but would like to do so in a way that I don't break the bank. I gave a whole tube the day before and 1/2 the day of....I'm going to try how you do it and see how it goes. How much Aloe Vera Juice do you give?
I give 1/2 cup in the PM. Some people feed 1 cup per day so either way I feel is fine. I just see in a lot of supplements for relief of ulcers you see Aloe Vera in the ingredients. I buy t Wal-Mart $6.50 a gallon and it last for a long time. He's a picky eater so he doesn't notice a big difference. I see now they have Berry flavored Aloe Juice, too chicken to give it to him! LOL! I am a freak about maintaining him, and I too have to maintain him for life to prevent ulcers. I give alfafa pellets scoop in am and pm. This combo has worked for him, good luck! |
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Location: Weatherford, Texas | I have treated a ton of horses with just the cheap omeprazole from walmart. One pill twice a day. (Their body absorbs different so you don't need 100000 pills to work). You will notice a difference in about 7-10 days. I treat for a month or so and then take them off and watch them.
Really anxious horses I would pretty much keep them on once a day while hauling hard. |
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| cooper08 - 2016-05-12 8:11 AM
I have treated a ton of horses with just the cheap omeprazole from walmart. One pill twice a day. (Their body absorbs different so you don't need 100000 pills to work). You will notice a difference in about 7-10 days. I treat for a month or so and then take them off and watch them.
Really anxious horses I would pretty much keep them on once a day while hauling hard.
Horses need 2.2 grams of omeprazole to effectively treat and cure ulcers. You would need something like 30 walmart pills 2x a day to reach that dosage. One pill 2x a day would be like taking as aspirin for a migraine. It might help a little but not going to be effective JMHO. With ulcerguard you see almost immediate results. Less than 24 hours usually. Maybe thats why it takes 7-10 days to see results at the dosage you use.
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Location: IL | I found this article interesting, maybe you guys will too?
http://www.doctorramey.com/use-less-ulcer-medication/ |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | Omeprazole |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Barnmom - 2016-05-10 3:57 PM uno-dos-tres! - 2016-05-10 8:24 AM shilohorse - 2016-05-09 11:41 PM I tried it- my horse went to really acting crazy almost like his stomach was on fire ( I will say my horse is different than most) what seems to work for every body else doesn't usually work for him BUT I will say I put him on equi-sure just about 2-3 weeks ago and the guy told me to treat my first bottle like it was free lol!---( $125.00 )but I did and gave my boy 10cc 3x a day for the first week ( we were at a big show) then week 2 I gave him 10cc 2x a day now I'm doing 10cc in am and 5cc right before I ride, I know it hasn't been long but hes always been a cribber and I have only seen him crib 2x since I started this which is a huge difference and he has gained muscle , weight and is absolutely glowing- it has relly made a big difference in a short time and the cost is approx. 2.50 per 10cc if you buy the $125.00 bottle or its approx. $1.95 per 10cc if you buy the $300.00 bottle. I have tried many ulcer supps over the years succeed was the best I had used until this equi-sure. I hope this helps I know how frustrating ulcers are--- you can look on fb for pro earth and theres a lot of people who have posts about it This! Did your horse have a mane that was flipped? Once I treated with this protocol I noticed my horse felt better and his mane all laid on the same side. I backed off and his mane is flipping again. Not sure if it's his mineral balance or the stomach happy on the Equi-Sure. My two year olds and a OTT QH I'm starting all get it before saddling. I notice a comfortable ride for them and me.
I've not run any test but the makers of the product state that you have an increase in pH. The product has colloidal silver in it as well. I understand the confusion on silver if you do a search. If you look into the newer research you see promise of using silver in some PT's.
I've only begun to use it. However, every time I've shared it with someone they ended up getting a bottle for themselves. It works on my young horses and my older more nervous horses. I love the way it stimulates appitite and gets them to drink while on the road.
I have a nasty mare that just doesn't like to be hauled, I've used it twice to the vet and her attitude is much better.
I come from a racetrack back ground and I will mikeshake a horse every so often via baking soda PO, well last time I did it I pulled labs and had some of my lytes off. Makes me wonder... So, when I amp it up for my next race at the end of the month I'm going to pull labs and see where this horse sits.
Our calves look awesome on the product. I can't wait to put them on the scale. We're talking about penning again just to give the momma's a dose and might as well do the bulls that are midway thru breeding season.
I've not scoped my horse in a long while (Oct) but I believe he came back to me from the pool with ulcers. Looked scruffy and after I put him on the equi-sure he turned around.
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Location: Sunny So Cal | GastroPLUS has worked wonders for me. I leave my horse on it because he is a worrier. |
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I used the Abler granules on my futurity horse last year. Did not really see any change. She also stopped eating the granules after about a week and I had to put them in a syringe with applesauce and dose her orally. I switched to Equine RX Solutions (http://equinerxsolutions.com) and noticed a change in my horses within a few days. I now use it when hauling and pre-race. I'm a skeptic of the majority of horse supplements and treatments out there, and I can honestly say there is a noticeable difference between the days I run with the suspension, and the days I don't dose. |
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