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Buying a KNOWN PSSM 3 yr old?
07milch
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2016-05-04 6:15 PM
Subject: Buying a KNOWN PSSM 3 yr old?


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How many people would purchase a well started, nice moving and well built 3 yr old who tested positive for PSSM 1? Papers aren't anything fancy, reasonably priced. I have never dealt with PSSM and I'm not sure I want to unless it isn't as big as a deal as I think it is....
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brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2016-05-04 6:23 PM
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Lbarrelracer08
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2016-05-04 6:35 PM
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I would pass too.
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GoMistyGo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2016-05-04 6:52 PM
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 No.
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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-05-04 6:53 PM
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2016-05-04 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: Buying a KNOWN PSSM 3 yr old?



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No! The maintenance to keep one right is nuts.
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Tdove
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2016-05-04 7:20 PM
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Not a chance
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-05-04 7:21 PM
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I would pass too, I have enought to keep up with. If you plan on taking a chance with it you need to read up on this problem, there is alot to learn about PSSM.  
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07milch
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2016-05-04 7:29 PM
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Thank you for the opinions, much appreciated!!
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-05-04 9:20 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2016-05-04 8:21 PM I would pass too, I have enought to keep up with. If you plan on taking a chance with it you need to read up on this problem, there is alot to learn about PSSM.  

agree and Id pass 
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-05-04 10:24 PM
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Nope. Too many nice ones out there without the hassle of PSSM. Figuring out the diet is a nightmare and even then you can still have problems.
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gypsykalgirl
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2016-05-05 12:42 AM
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Not a chance. Not even if it was free!
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CarrieH77
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2016-05-05 9:30 AM
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I own a PSSM horse and have her pretty well managed but they are a lot of work and you couldn't pay me to have another one.   
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ausranch
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2016-05-05 11:01 AM
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Just what I was going to say.
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fabulous2006
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2016-05-05 12:31 PM
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Gunner11
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2016-05-05 12:40 PM
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gypsykalgirl - 2016-05-05 12:42 AM

Not a chance. Not even if it was free!

That's what I was going to say, I'd turn down a FREE horse, no matter how well-bred if I knew that's what I'd be getting into. It's one thing for a horse you already own to come down with it, but to knowingly pay money for one, no way.
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SaraJean
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2016-05-05 3:49 PM
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Not a chance, you couldn't give a known carrier to me.  
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RunNitroRun
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2016-05-05 4:07 PM
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Pass!!! Having to deal with one now I'd never intentionally buy one that has PSSM and I'll be testing anything new in the future because of it.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2016-05-05 4:09 PM
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Unfortunately no, I just wouldn't take the risk. 
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2016-05-05 5:32 PM
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Kind of looks like the vote is no. If you do end up owning the horse give me a call and I will work you through the program. They can have a good performance life. But, the management does not fit in most peoples schedules. We have a tendency to get the problem horses to feed that other people give up on. As a result, we have done programs for a lot of them, and had pretty good success keeping PSSM horses going from the nutrition standpoint.

These horses are not for most horse owners.
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got boost?
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-05-05 6:32 PM
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pass............... 
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cheeka77
Reg. Nov 2013
Posted 2016-05-06 1:48 AM
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As someone who just found out her mare in PSSM2 (trust me when I say theres going to be a lot of horses testing positive when the test hits the market soon  ) that unless you are emotionally invested in the horse, I would pass. I did not own this mare but she was given to me because I am very attached to her, she can never be used for breeding, and I am starting to manage her and still learning. It is VERY hard to deal with, especially type 2 because not a lot is known about it but if I didn't love her so much she would be gone. There are still days I want to sell her and/or put her down because I hate to see her suffer but I am hoping to make a positive impact on the type 2 horses once this test comes out because of my hunch that a lot of well bred horses will be "garbage" to breeders when it becomes part of the AQHA 5 panel. I think it will be a good thing that people will now know why their horses are acting out but detrimental to those who didn't realize their breeding programs are tainted. Also, type 2 seems to be worse for dealing with because of symptoms and attitude problems but In my opinion type 1 is almost harder to manage.
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turnedout
Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2016-05-08 1:31 PM
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My main mount is PSSM, had no idea until years later of testing. Normal maintenance on a barrel horse is time consuming and costly, add in PSSM and you'll want to tear your hair out. IDK how many times I've wanted to quit because of the frustration. If I wasn't so emotionally invested he would be gone, but he's a lifer. I definitely suggest passing and for future purchases test or do your homework!
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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2016-05-08 2:51 PM
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CarrieH77
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2016-05-09 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: Buying a KNOWN PSSM 3 yr old?



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turnedout - 2016-05-08 1:31 PM My main mount is PSSM, had no idea until years later of testing. Normal maintenance on a barrel horse is time consuming and costly, add in PSSM and you'll want to tear your hair out. IDK how many times I've wanted to quit because of the frustration. If I wasn't so emotionally invested he would be gone, but he's a lifer. I definitely suggest passing and for future purchases test or do your homework!

I feel your pain and have been there many times...wanting to quit cause it's just emotionally draining!!  But my mare is feeling better than ever, and I just hope she continues to feel good.  I also believe in my personal opinion this is a progressive disease as each year it seems to be more and more of a struggle.  My mare is 14yo this year.   
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TxSweetie
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-05-09 12:59 PM
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I guess I'm going to be an oddball. Mine just was diagnosed with PSSM and a easy diet change and one supplement and she is back to normal. Maybe just a mild case. I was told that if QH's were all tested then 80% would test positive. this mare is actually easier to manage than my rodeo mare. I guess each there own but sure hate to see all of this negative on a condition that I think is managed easily IMO.
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roxieannie
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2016-05-09 1:41 PM
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 Sweetie, positive for PSSM 1 or 2 ?

 
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cheeka77
Reg. Nov 2013
Posted 2016-05-09 2:51 PM
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TxSweetie - 2016-05-09 12:59 PM I guess I'm going to be an oddball. Mine just was diagnosed with PSSM and a easy diet change and one supplement and she is back to normal. Maybe just a mild case. I was told that if QH's were all tested then 80% would test positive. this mare is actually easier to manage than my rodeo mare. I guess each there own but sure hate to see all of this negative on a condition that I think is managed easily IMO.

Im guessing yours was tested mild because it is not normally easily managed, especially type 1 with the NSC struggle. What was yours tested for? 
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RunNitroRun
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2016-05-09 3:14 PM
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TxSweetie - 2016-05-09 12:59 PM

I guess I'm going to be an oddball. Mine just was diagnosed with PSSM and a easy diet change and one supplement and she is back to normal. Maybe just a mild case. I was told that if QH's were all tested then 80% would test positive. this mare is actually easier to manage than my rodeo mare. I guess each there own but sure hate to see all of this negative on a condition that I think is managed easily IMO.

You're lucky having one that is mild. They're not all like that. Some you can have on restricted diets, good exercise programs and they still have episodes. I have a friend who paid high dollar for a 4 year old futurity horse. The horse ran great for a couple years then started having issues when she was 6 or 7. After spending a ton on test (this was just before it became a more well known issue) and she finally was tested for PSSM and she's positive. She's a pasture pet now. Her's is so severe you can't do much with her. You can't breed her, you can't ride her, and you can't sell her because she requires such a careful diet not many people would be willing to take her on.

The one I have to manage is managed with diet and exercise but she still will have an issue a couple times a year that requires treatment.

I'd never have another known PSSM horse again.
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CarrieH77
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2016-05-09 3:20 PM
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RunNitroRun - 2016-05-09 3:14 PM
TxSweetie - 2016-05-09 12:59 PM I guess I'm going to be an oddball. Mine just was diagnosed with PSSM and a easy diet change and one supplement and she is back to normal. Maybe just a mild case. I was told that if QH's were all tested then 80% would test positive. this mare is actually easier to manage than my rodeo mare. I guess each there own but sure hate to see all of this negative on a condition that I think is managed easily IMO.
You're lucky having one that is mild. They're not all like that. Some you can have on restricted diets, good exercise programs and they still have episodes. I have a friend who paid high dollar for a 4 year old futurity horse. The horse ran great for a couple years then started having issues when she was 6 or 7. After spending a ton on test (this was just before it became a more well known issue) and she finally was tested for PSSM and she's positive. She's a pasture pet now. Her's is so severe you can't do much with her. You can't breed her, you can't ride her, and you can't sell her because she requires such a careful diet not many people would be willing to take her on. The one I have to manage is managed with diet and exercise but she still will have an issue a couple times a year that requires treatment. I'd never have another known PSSM horse again.

Mine is the same as your Nitro...you try to do everything you can but you cannot predict it all the time what will trigger an episode.  Mine is pretty well managed for the most part.  I have owned my mare since she was 5yo and I didn't have any issues until she was 7yo.  You couldn't pay me to have another one.   
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