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Location: Somewhere around here | I sometimes look through some FB groups of sale horse and I'm kinda shocked at how much some people want for there plain ol trail riding horses! I mean, I understand a well broke and nicely bred horse being worth more but I can't get over the fact that some people want $4,000+ for just a plain riding horse. |
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Location: Kentucky | I don't worry about it. It's their prerogative to price however they want. |
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| Folks can ask whatever they want - what they actually get is what someone's willing to pay and there's a fool born every minute.
the sub $5000 market is the hardest to pin point in my opinion because that's where you have the most buyers and sellers. |
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Location: CTX | Murphy - 2016-05-24 7:31 AM I don't worry about it. It's their prerogative to price however they want.
True, and also, you don't have to buy the horse. It's all what the seller and buyer thinks it is worth...
I remember buying my old mare at 18 and people told me I was crazy to pay the amount I did for her, but to me she was worth 2 times the amount because she taught me a lot and took care of me.
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Location: Arkansas | Good, broke and safe horses are getting harder to come by. The market has come up over the last year or two. There are lots of people out there willing to pay decent money for a broke horse that they feel safe on. |
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Location: West Texas | A nice bred, broke correctly horse is worth over 4000. Each one of them probably has at least that put into them and are selling at a loss, if in the business of raising them. The real cost of a horse is feed and maintenance, which you will run up to that number, pretty quick. So, people get in their 50k truck which cost more to feed/maintain, whose value drops like a rock, then turn around and complain about a 5k horse.
I have little sympathy for people that complain about horse prices. I have a simple answer. Get in the business of raising, training, or trading horses and you will change your mind immediately.... |
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Location: IL | I totally agree with the OP. Some horses are worth it and some people jump on the bandwagon thinking they have a horse, so it should be worth the same. People can price them whatever they want, but I mostly see the prices drop a lot when they don't sell. |
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| gypsy1997 - 2016-05-24 7:58 AM Good, broke and safe horses are getting harder to come by. The market has come up over the last year or two. There are lots of people out there willing to pay decent money for a broke horse that they feel safe on.
This^^. I bought a new barrel horse a few months ago, 5 year old that is sweet, hunts the barrel, been running about a year, same run every time. I paid a lot more for him then similar horses advertised for sale, then I spent another 2k sending to a trainer to fix some holes in his training. I always felt he was priced high, bought from a friend who is a teacher, husband a fireman-great people, I was glad to help them make a little bit of money-paid what they were asking. Now that I have him back and have made a few runs I think he is worth every penny, I just love him. |
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Location: Kansas | The horse market is poop now days, they might be priced at $4,000....but doesn't mean they will sell for that unfortunately. A good broke horse is worth quite a bit in my opinion. But people price their horses, for what they think they are worth.
However, I do see green broke (had a gal send a video of a horse that was "dead" broke, and the mare wouldn't move out at a walk when asked LMFAO and she wanted $2,500 for her) listed for over $2,500 and some don't have papers LMFAO.
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| IMO a majority of the horses for sale these days have super inflated prices....reason they are not selling. People are asking 2D prices for a 5D or crippled up horse hoping they can get enough money to go buy a good one. Just because it's 1/2 brother won a race, doesn't mean the one advertised will. I have looked at quite a few horses for sale the past 6 months. It seems no matter what level a barrel horse is, what they have done or NOT done, they want at least $20,000 for them. A big part of them are for sale because the are NOT winning a dime. I know many people don't care if they win $ or not, they just want to go have fun but to me, those are not $20,000 horses. I have been thinking there should be a formula to apply to a horse to come up with a fair price with variables in the equation to account for age, top bloodlines, how much they have won in their life, how much they have won their last 10 races. (still working on that equation LOL). Sadly not one horse I have vetted out (to buy) has vetted out. I'm not talking needing routine maintenance injections. I'm talking LAME horses. |
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Location: Arizona | Solid broke, gentle geldings are hot ticket items right now. You've got a couple generations that seem to be buying trail horses; my generation (I was born in 1984, so older millenial) and my mom's generation (born 1956, Baby Boomer). I grew up in a fairly rural, agricultural community and almost everyone I went to school with had horses at home. Most went off to college, got married, bought their first homes, and had kids, but left horses behind. Now those that have achieved some financial security are starting to get back into horses again. And they are shopping for good, gentle trail horses that are also safe for their kids to ride. Then there's my mom's generation who are at or nearing retirement age (whatever that means, ha). They may have left horses behind for their careers, or for financial reasons, or perhaps just always dreamed of owning a horse. Now they are getting back into horses (or first time owners) and guess what? They are also looking for good, gentle trail horses. None of these horses need to be "finished" for a job; just quiet, gentle, broke, and flashy is a plus. Geldings are preferred. This market is strong anywhere from $4-8k. |
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Location: Arizona | I came across this article in Spin to Win a few months ago regarding rope horses, I think a lot of the info could easily be applied to current barrel horse prices. http://spintowinrodeo.com/article/bull-market-rise-rope-horse-price... (I'm not sure if I can make the link live from my phone) |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | No, I really dont think so. Just depends on what the horse is worth to you as a buyer and what you are looking for. Just do your homework befor you buy. If the horse is what they say and will take care of the rider then they are worth what being asked. |
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| This isn't a horse but I thought it was funny. Someone had a saddle pad with stirrups for $150. Actually, it was a bareback pad that sells for $50 in any catalog. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Didn't read all the responses, but any horse that is sound, sane, and BROKE BROKE BROKE is worth at least 4000 and upwards. Do you realize how much work it takes to get one that is BROKE. Now that being said, just because they are advertised as broke, doesn't always mean they are.
I had a local person beg me to buy a streaking six colt at 5 years old. They were just getting into horses again, and I was teaching their two daughters to ride. He was the only horse I could use to teach with because he is so broke and quiet (wasn't started on barrels yet). He wasn't for sale. So I priced him high, over $5000. At first they wanted him. Then their friends told them that was way too much to pay, so they got wishy washy, and I declined to sell him.
Fast forward a year....they come back, with regrets. Saying they wished they had just bought him and that they now understood why I priced him where I did. They ended up buying two horses for much less and were having all sorts of trouble.
The good news is, the problems they were having were 80 percent human error, and I was able to get them on the right track with both horses. They actually are really nice horses, but without help it would have been a disaster for them. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I just took a HUGE loss on a gelding that is as broke as they come and he went to the perfect home. A good correctly broke horse is well worth 5k+ even in a horrible market. |
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| I just drove the entire state of AZ looking for that well broke-bred-gentle gelding. Spent at least 300 in gas, about the same for food for the entire family, and then for the horse. I kept complaining on why is this so hard, it used to be easy... I'm glad to know horses are making a comeback. For awhile there it seemed like this too was going to go the way of the wind. |
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Location: south central usa | location has to be factored in as well...I have a 9yo decently papered mare that has been used at playdays but is more broke than anything and we moved on to more patterned/seasoned horses (owned her since she was one). she'd make a good head horse and an awesome trail horse. although she is not for sale, there is no way that i'd expect to get over $2000-2500 for her as she is and would price her accordingly.
$4-5k for a broke horse with no real job seems a little extreme to this southerner adjacent to the MS river. I guess I could see horses bringing that in TX/OK or in the mid-west as they would be used to day work on ranches |
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| Ive seen a few horses on FB pages over priced. For example: 8 year Non-registered mare hasn't been ridden in a year and bucks, the owner is asking $4k. That horse is still on the market. Its hard to come across a nice broke horse. I remember about 15 years ago, you could go out to a ranch and pick up a 5-10 yr old gelding, super broke for about $1,500-2,000..... I miss those days. :) I think if you have ridden a BROKE horse, its hard to lower your standards, so you will pay a pretty penny for one. |
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| I can see $4k for a well broke, sound, riding horse of good age. It's the ones who ask $35-40k for a 2D/3D horse they enter under a barn name so there's no proof of where it really places.
Having said that, I also know you can't always go off a "win" record for value because some people aren't always a match for the horse they're trying to sell. And, it very well MAY be capable of being worth more than they are able to show it for.
Barrel horse pricing is always going to be subject to too many variables, opinions, and bottom line, what someone is willing to pay to own the horse.
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Location: Deep South | runnink - 2016-05-24 12:07 PM
location has to be factored in as well...I have a 9yo decently papered mare that has been used at playdays but is more broke than anything and we moved on to more patterned/seasoned horses (owned her since she was one). she'd make a good head horse and an awesome trail horse. although she is not for sale, there is no way that i'd expect to get over $2000-2500 for her as she is and would price her accordingly.
$4-5k for a broke horse with no real job seems a little extreme to this southerner adjacent to the MS river. I guess I could see horses bringing that in TX/OK or in the mid-west as they would be used to day work on ranches
I just sold a 4yo mare, nothing special on her papers, that was gentle as a puppy dog, anyone could ride her, very nice handle on her, but she had not been started on any kind of job yet for $5500. They drove from Oklahoma to get her. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | They are only overpriced when a person cant afford them....lol...M |
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Location: Northwest Florida | I'm thankful to see prices rising! I agree some people overprice their horses, but that may be my opinion on the horse, and someone out there may be willing to pay that. |
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Location: ND | Last fall I sold a gorgeous buckskin gelding that I'd had since he was a couple months old for $7500. He was just a trail horse, has no desire to go fast or work, but was good looking & beyond safe. The gal that bought him flew to ND from TX to try him. I had a list of over 20 people wanting to try this horse so no he was not over priced & I could have easily have gotten more. Truly broke and safe horses are worth a lot of money. |
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| I just sold a very nice gelding. He is a 10 year old appendix bred gelding going strong on the barrels, showing lots of potential. Been through the poles but needed work and he was an awesome ranch horse that I could rope off of. He was little quirky, nothing dangerous but not a beginners first horse. I was starting to think I was crazy asking $5500 for him but you know I was in no rush to sell him and having fun running him in the mean time. A friend of mine tried him out and just loved him. So she bought him for what I was asking. He is in the perfect home and I can see him all the time. I enjoy watching her run him and improve on him and he loves her more than he probably ever loved me. HAHA but seriously I am glad I didn't budge on price and found him the perfect home. Some times that is more of win than money sold for. IMO |
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Location: North Dakota | If you think a sound, safe horse for $4000 or less is overpriced, try paying 10x that for a hospital bill instead. I had a sour pig in training flip over on me and that hospital bill was well over $40,000 3 ankle surgeries later. Good horses are worth their weight in gold and take time and money to get them to that point. Therefore they are priced accordingly. Everyone wants something for nothing these days. The majority of the people who complain about prices want the horse, but can't afford it. If the horse is truly over-priced, the market will tell the seller that, As they will see it sit for a long period with little to no bites. |
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Location: IL | shakeit0410 - 2016-05-24 3:01 PM If you think a sound, safe horse for $4000 or less is overpriced, try paying 10x that for a hospital bill instead. I had a sour pig in training flip over on me and that hospital bill was well over $40,000 3 ankle surgeries later. Good horses are worth their weight in gold and take time and money to get them to that point. Therefore they are priced accordingly. Everyone wants something for nothing these days. The majority of the people who complain about prices want the horse, but can't afford it. If the horse is truly over-priced, the market will tell the seller that, As they will see it sit for a long period with little to no bites. I think a sound, safe horse, that is broke, is not over priced at $4000. It's the not broke, grade, and super thin horses for $4000 is what blows my mind. People that know good horses will find good affordable horses.
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Location: south central usa | SaraJean - 2016-05-24 2:32 PM
Last fall I sold a gorgeous buckskin gelding that I'd had since he was a couple months old for $7500. He was just a trail horse, has no desire to go fast or work, but was good looking & beyond safe. The gal that bought him flew to ND from TX to try him. I had a list of over 20 people wanting to try this horse so no he was not over priced & I could have easily have gotten more. Truly broke and safe horses are worth a lot of money.
this would the locational theory...could someone in Mississippi expect to garner $7500 for a trail horse? there may be examples of it occurring, but I would lean more on the side of it being the exception and not the rule. |
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Location: south central usa | BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-24 1:02 PM
runnink - 2016-05-24 12:07 PM
location has to be factored in as well...I have a 9yo decently papered mare that has been used at playdays but is more broke than anything and we moved on to more patterned/seasoned horses (owned her since she was one). she'd make a good head horse and an awesome trail horse. although she is not for sale, there is no way that i'd expect to get over $2000-2500 for her as she is and would price her accordingly.
$4-5k for a broke horse with no real job seems a little extreme to this southerner adjacent to the MS river. I guess I could see horses bringing that in TX/OK or in the mid-west as they would be used to day work on ranches
I just sold a 4yo mare, nothing special on her papers, that was gentle as a puppy dog, anyone could ride her, very nice handle on her, but she had not been started on any kind of job yet for $5500. They drove from Oklahoma to get her.
depending on how far from OK you are -- there had to be some reason for the buyer to "drive by" numerous horses that have the same credentials --- I have nothing against people being able to get their asking price---no matter how far above or below the perceived market price range. for every horse that has no job and is broke and ready to move on... we have all also seen horses in the same price range (that have been taken care of and not blown up) with extensive training in some area, whether it be barrels, roping or a cutting horse flunkie.
and yes , although I agree the horse market has improved, as a seller, I wouldn't expect to be able to touch the $3-4k range with a horse that is slightly above a trail horse - then again I do my best to talk down my horses... :-)
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Good, broke, safe and PRETTY horses bring a lot of $$. |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | shakeit0410 - 2016-05-24 3:01 PM
If you think a sound, safe horse for $4000 or less is overpriced, try paying 10x that for a hospital bill instead. I had a sour pig in training flip over on me and that hospital bill was well over $40,000 3 ankle surgeries later. Good horses are worth their weight in gold and take time and money to get them to that point. Therefore they are priced accordingly. Everyone wants something for nothing these days. The majority of the people who complain about prices want the horse, but can't afford it. If the horse is truly over-priced, the market will tell the seller that, As they will see it sit for a long period with little to no bites.
Earlier this week someone sent me a cartoon you tube video with two characters....one wanted to by a world quality horse for $3500. The second character was the seller who had super nice horses, trained, etc. with the lowest price horse at $25,000. The "conversation" is hysterically funny -- and, sadly, so true. If I can find it, I'll post a link.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | runnink - 2016-05-24 3:21 PM SaraJean - 2016-05-24 2:32 PM Last fall I sold a gorgeous buckskin gelding that I'd had since he was a couple months old for $7500. He was just a trail horse, has no desire to go fast or work, but was good looking & beyond safe. The gal that bought him flew to ND from TX to try him. I had a list of over 20 people wanting to try this horse so no he was not over priced & I could have easily have gotten more. Truly broke and safe horses are worth a lot of money. this would the locational theory...could someone in Mississippi expect to garner $7500 for a trail horse? there may be examples of it occurring, but I would lean more on the side of it being the exception and not the rule.
Yes, someone in MS could do this, BUT it's doubtful that the buyer will be local. |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Here is the "buyer from hell" cartoon video. Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjX6UJXQKEw&feature=youtu.be
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SaraJean - 2016-05-24 2:32 PM Last fall I sold a gorgeous buckskin gelding that I'd had since he was a couple months old for $7500. He was just a trail horse, has no desire to go fast or work, but was good looking & beyond safe. The gal that bought him flew to ND from TX to try him. I had a list of over 20 people wanting to try this horse so no he was not over priced & I could have easily have gotten more. Truly broke and safe horses are worth a lot of money.
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Location: Canada | Right or wrong people will pay WAY MORE for "pretty."
I think a truly well broke horse will bring $4000-5000 and if the horse is a Pal/Buckskin/Blue roan etc the price is even higher then that. |
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Location: south central usa | Three 4 Luck - 2016-05-24 4:05 PM
runnink - 2016-05-24 3:21 PM SaraJean - 2016-05-24 2:32 PM Last fall I sold a gorgeous buckskin gelding that I'd had since he was a couple months old for $7500. He was just a trail horse, has no desire to go fast or work, but was good looking & beyond safe. The gal that bought him flew to ND from TX to try him. I had a list of over 20 people wanting to try this horse so no he was not over priced & I could have easily have gotten more. Truly broke and safe horses are worth a lot of money. this would the locational theory...could someone in Mississippi expect to garner $7500 for a trail horse? there may be examples of it occurring, but I would lean more on the side of it being the exception and not the rule.
exactly.
agreed it could happen (anything is possible) yet does it? I'm just saying the exceptions are not indicative of a market average.
most sellers aren't going to come on a forum and say that they had to dump a solid broke horse because it couldn't sell at a higher price. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | runnink - 2016-05-24 4:33 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-05-24 4:05 PM runnink - 2016-05-24 3:21 PM SaraJean - 2016-05-24 2:32 PM Last fall I sold a gorgeous buckskin gelding that I'd had since he was a couple months old for $7500. He was just a trail horse, has no desire to go fast or work, but was good looking & beyond safe. The gal that bought him flew to ND from TX to try him. I had a list of over 20 people wanting to try this horse so no he was not over priced & I could have easily have gotten more. Truly broke and safe horses are worth a lot of money. this would the locational theory...could someone in Mississippi expect to garner $7500 for a trail horse? there may be examples of it occurring, but I would lean more on the side of it being the exception and not the rule. exactly. agreed it could happen (anything is possible ) yet does it? I'm just saying the exceptions are not indicative of a market average. most sellers aren't going to come on a forum and say that they had to dump a solid broke horse because it couldn't sell at a higher price.
Yes, it does happen. Especially if you make a really good video and it's a good looking horse that catches someone's eye. Having lots of cool buttons has helped me out too. |
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| I agree that location will play a role in pricing a horse. Early in the spring we sold a 9 year old gelding that was very broke but didn't have a job. He'd been ridden a little in the pastures to doctor cattle, and used some as a pick-up horse, roped a little in the arena. Mostly he was just a big, broke, gelding. Nothing fancy. We priced him at $2,500, sold him for $2,000. And honestly, I feel like that's what a horse like him is worth. In our area anyways!
With that being said, I've sold two young prospects this year and have had people contacting me frequently to see what I have for sale. Just wish I had a barn full, because people are buying.
About over-pricing, I agree that there are plenty for sale with a price tag that does not match the horse. I just shake my head and go on, knowing that the horse will still be advertised for months to come, and eventually the seller will either drop the price to reflect the quality of the horse or give up on selling. Are they trying to make a quick buck on someone who doesn't know any better? Or do they honestly think their horse is worth that much? Who knows. On the flip side, I see a lot of horses priced at their actual value or even lower. |
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Have I been successful with this theory? Yes and no.
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Location: ND | Nevertooold - 2016-05-24 3:20 PM SaraJean - 2016-05-24 2:32 PM Last fall I sold a gorgeous buckskin gelding that I'd had since he was a couple months old for $7500. He was just a trail horse, has no desire to go fast or work, but was good looking & beyond safe. The gal that bought him flew to ND from TX to try him. I had a list of over 20 people wanting to try this horse so no he was not over priced & I could have easily have gotten more. Truly broke and safe horses are worth a lot of money. And he was worth every penny!
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Location: Somewhere around here | spitzh - 2016-05-24 11:18 AM
Ive seen a few horses on FB pages over priced. For example: 8 year Non-registered mare hasn't been ridden in a year and bucks, the owner is asking $4k. That horse is still on the market. Its hard to come across a nice broke horse. I remember about 15 years ago, you could go out to a ranch and pick up a 5-10 yr old gelding, super broke for about $1,500-2,000..... I miss those days. :) I think if you have ridden a BROKE horse, its hard to lower your standards, so you will pay a pretty penny for one.
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| One thing I think the op is not taking into consideration is the cost of training in a well broke horse.
Around here it is 1000 per month, so if I send mine for 2 months I have already spent 2k. Then I ride them to keep them solid, and improve on the training, so I put a few more months on, my time has to count for something.
If I was looking for a good well broke kid safe trail horse, I would have no problem paying 6k. I value safety. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | My rule of thumb is to always price higher then what I expect to actually get. I sold two very very nice kid safe and broke/seasoned and papered 3/4D barrel horses last year and only got $4500 each for them.
I have one up for sale now that's green broke (green meaning I broke her, she knows all the basics - walk, Trot, lope, leads, bends, flexes, stops, rolls back, counter bends etc) all of which I can make her do but for a green rider they may not be able to keep up with her training, but because she's big, papered, and a buckskin for almost that same price - I've had a ton of interest so far.
It amazes me how many people skip through the actual ad though, I've had several ask me what times she's running (face palm). I can lope her through barrels at an exhibition that's it.
To me they're not broke broke broke in 30-60 days I don't care who's riding them.
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| Pricing horses is so difficult because there are so many variables that must be taken into consideration. As a breeder I understand what kind of money it takes to get a foal on the ground. And I will price those accordingly. A performance horse is also going to hold more value. The problem I see is that so many people price based on emotion or what kind of potential the horse might have, but they aren't honest with themselves about their horse. For example, advertising a 5 year old or a grade horse as a futurity prospect is not reasonable, because the reality of it is that at 5 the horse is beyond its futurity years, and the likelihood of someone spending money on a grade futurity horse is very small (and I mean bloodlines totally unknown as I know there are some grade horses that simply can't be registered but are the product of known performers). Or claiming that a horse is going to be 1D and pricing it like a 1D horse would be priced instead of pricing it as the prospect that it is. |
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| cecollins0811 - 2016-05-24 8:37 PM
spitzh - 2016-05-24 11:18 AM
Ive seen a few horses on FB pages over priced. For example: 8 year Non-registered mare hasn't been ridden in a year and bucks, the owner is asking $4k. That horse is still on the market. Its hard to come across a nice broke horse. I remember about 15 years ago, you could go out to a ranch and pick up a 5-10 yr old gelding, super broke for about $1,500-2,000..... I miss those days. :) I think if you have ridden a BROKE horse, its hard to lower your standards, so you will pay a pretty penny for one.
Yes, this is what I was talking about when I started the thread!
Unfortunately the reason you can no longer go out and buy a decent ranch horse for cheap anymore is because the majority of ranchers no longer cowboy, too much work, they would rather ride a 4 wheeler. Give me a good cowboy with lots of miles over most horse trainers any day! |
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Location: WI | cheryl makofka - 2016-05-24 9:48 PM One thing I think the op is not taking into consideration is the cost of training in a well broke horse. Around here it is 1000 per month, so if I send mine for 2 months I have already spent 2k. Then I ride them to keep them solid, and improve on the training, so I put a few more months on, my time has to count for something. If I was looking for a good well broke kid safe trail horse, I would have no problem paying 6k. I value safety.
While this situation would be nice, I don't think it's realistic and why some of the prices are so high. I don't discredit what money you put into your prospect, but let's be real - this is not a lucrative business, I've never thought of a barrel horse as an investment.
In the end a horse is only worth what someone will pay!
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | SKM - 2016-05-25 8:36 AM
I think people are forgetting that prior to them closing the slaughter plants down in the USA, you couldn't find a horse for under $1,500. Even a crap one. Well broke geldings were around $5,000. Prices are dirt cheap now compared to about 15 years ago.
Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a winner.
Prices will vary depending on 16491951 things. There are too many to list. I paid $1500 for two of my best horses as yearlings. But that was back in 1980. The market was even depressed then. We were in a recession and the interest rates/inflation was through the roof.
Broke good looking geldings between 4-10 were 2500-20K. Depending on their level of training. That was at the horse sale yard, not private sales. I have no idea what they were selling for privately.
The horse market is still there for the right product. But you have to provide that special product to get the price. It's a very tough business to break even in, let alone make a profit. My hat is off to those that can.
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Location: Texas | I haven't read this whole thread. However, I have noticed that prices are up as well. When the kill pens are selling horses for up near $1000..... |
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Location: Deep South | psaaat - 2016-05-25 1:01 PM I haven't read this whole thread. However, I have noticed that prices are up as well. When the kill pens are selling horses for up near $1000.....
That's just good marketing. When they can sell a green broke 1/5 arab 1/5 quarter 1/5 walking horse 1/5 paso 1/5 welch pony that is practically a skeleton, with no medical history for $1000. They have successfully mastered the art of playing on people's emotions.
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| I personally see prices all over the board... as someone who has been shopping on a budget, I am baffled by some of the prices. I saw a 7 year old gelding, bred decent, green broke and a known dirty bucker (says so in the ad), asking $4800. Then I will see another horse similar that is $1,000.
I totally understand the amount of money it takes to raise one but when you let it sit on the backburner until a late 4 year old or 5 year old... I don't think your prospect is worth 5k anymore. If it was 2 or 3 and it has some handling maybe...
But then I see some horses far underpriced. I think a lot has to do with all the new "horse flippers." I know people who buy them for 1-2k and relist them in 3 or 4 days for 5-7k its insanity to me. |
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Location: Willows, CA | I am kind of hoping that they are overpriced right now. I have a nice four year old going through a sale next month. For a lot of people with limited experience, a cheap horse can be the most expensive thing that they could buy in the long run. |
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Location: sunny california | linds - 2016-05-25 8:28 AM cheryl makofka - 2016-05-24 9:48 PM One thing I think the op is not taking into consideration is the cost of training in a well broke horse. Around here it is 1000 per month, so if I send mine for 2 months I have already spent 2k. Then I ride them to keep them solid, and improve on the training, so I put a few more months on, my time has to count for something. If I was looking for a good well broke kid safe trail horse, I would have no problem paying 6k. I value safety. While this situation would be nice, I don't think it's realistic and why some of the prices are so high. I don't discredit what money you put into your prospect, but let's be real - this is not a lucrative business, I've never thought of a barrel horse as an investment.
In the end a horse is only worth what someone will pay!
Horses are a loosing buisness and especially if you have to pay trainers. I have never expected to get my training bill back unless it is a winner. basically you loose on the average horse and make money on the above average Horses. Horses are an emotional investment.not a wise investment at all. the only breeders that make money are the ones with an edge like a lot of land and they have a considerably less feed bill.
If I bred a horse and had to buy feedstore hay I would not expect to get my money back. it would be me gambling on getting a winner and then cutting my losses if not. Many people think they have to get every dime back and it is not realistic if you are an honest seller.
Horses are an expensive hobby for most people and it will not be long before the average Joe can not afford one. actually the average Joe can not afford one... I think we loose sight of how lucky we truely are
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| linds - 2016-05-25 10:28 AM
cheryl makofka - 2016-05-24 9:48 PM One thing I think the op is not taking into consideration is the cost of training in a well broke horse. Around here it is 1000 per month, so if I send mine for 2 months I have already spent 2k. Then I ride them to keep them solid, and improve on the training, so I put a few more months on, my time has to count for something. If I was looking for a good well broke kid safe trail horse, I would have no problem paying 6k. I value safety.
While this situation would be nice, I don't think it's realistic and why some of the prices are so high. I don't discredit what money you put into your prospect, but let's be real - this is not a lucrative business, I've never thought of a barrel horse as an investment.
In the end a horse is only worth what someone will pay!
Guess it all depends on where you live. As where I am from people are still willing to pay for a broke horse.
At a ranch horse sale this spring the high selling horse was 4 yrs old and went for 15000. The average price at the sale was 7500.
Heard about a ranch horse dispersal sale, a few of the ranch horses went around the 10k mark.
It all depends on what you want and how much you are willing to spend.
I shake my head at people wanting a well broke patterned on barrels nicely bred futurity eligible horse for 2k, this I don't believe is realistic. |
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Location: mi | Nope not at all. I think its just finally getting to the point that people are starting to price them for what they are worth. There will always be those that way over price a horse. Or way under price one for that matter. But it drives me nuts when breeders regularly basically give their young stock away. It so devalues all horses out there. Dont get me wrong there will always be those people that have to sell and sell quickly and will under price a nice horse but if everyone with a nice horse would stick to a decent price it would help out everyone trying to sell. Buyers would have no choice but to either save up a couple thousand more before purchasing. Or go find yourself a no name, off brand, hidden behind an old barn prospect and hope for the best. and I am not talking about the super high end horses but more those nicely bred middle of the road $3K-$6K horses. Honestly if that is above your budget then just stop shopping, and put the money aside that you would spend each month on feed, bedding, vet, shoes, supplements, entries ....... and in a few months you have another grand. and so on and so on until you have a budget to fit your needs. |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | Whoop Z Day Z - 2016-05-24 8:06 PM THE MARKET IS UP! A LOT! Even at the sales prices are really up!
I agree with this. I also think there is a shorteage of horses under 5 maybe even 4. So I'm looking for a nice horse and I feel like what I like is up about 5,000 at least. At that price though thats tough to spit out for a prospect unless they have a special proven mother. those are hard to find. So now I'm not sure if I should buy something proven for another 5,000 or more or buy a weanling or yearling. I'm getting old though I would rather pay upfront than as I go............ |
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Location: Northwest Florida | RunNitroRun - 2016-05-24 4:30 PM
Right or wrong people will pay WAY MORE for "pretty."
I think a truly well broke horse will bring $4000-5000 and if the horse is a Pal/Buckskin/Blue roan etc the price is even higher then that.
Definitely right. I believe even if buyers don't go out looking for pretty, it's the pretty that catches their eye. It's also the "pretty" that gets the ads more attention if you post on social media, thus reaching more potential buyers. |
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Location: Oklahoma | got boost? - 2016-05-26 11:38 AM
Whoop Z Day Z - 2016-05-24 8:06 PM THE MARKET IS UP! A LOT! Even at the sales prices are really up!
I agree with this. I also think there is a shorteage of horses under 5 maybe even 4. So I'm looking for a nice horse and I feel like what I like is up about 5,000 at least. At that price though thats tough to spit out for a prospect unless they have a special proven mother. those are hard to find. So now I'm not sure if I should buy something proven for another 5,000 or more or buy a weanling or yearling. I'm getting old though I would rather pay upfront than as I go............
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| What worries me about 'overpricing' horses is more the additional cost associated with breeding so many recip mares these days.
The cost of the recip mare (upwards of several thousand) is having to be absorbed in the sale of the colt. So instead of just purchasing the quality of breeding, training, and potential of the colt, now you have you tack on the additional cost of the recip.
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| Vmtaylor - 2016-05-26 4:09 PM What worries me about 'overpricing' horses is more the additional cost associated with breeding so many recip mares these days. The cost of the recip mare (upwards of several thousand) is having to be absorbed in the sale of the colt. So instead of just purchasing the quality of breeding, training, and potential of the colt, now you have you tack on the additional cost of the recip. It will be interesting to see how that drives the industry as it becomes more of the norm to AI and utilize a recip mare, then to have well bred mares actually carry their babies. The input costs have nothing to do with the sales price. There will always be someone that can do it cheaper and better. Those who have higher priced stock can charge what they charge because the demand is there. Remove the money they run for and the prices will drop, increase the money and prices will go up.
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| Vmtaylor - 2016-05-26 4:38 PM
My only disagreement there is if you have two babies out of identical bred mares, out of the same stud, the only difference is one is moved to a recip mare..... The up charge on the recip mare will have to be higher to cover that cost. Which then allows the other who had the mare carry the baby to charge similar or same price point.
I think what you're saying is the ET foal will be higher priced, so other foals that aren't ET can also be priced that high, thus having a higher profit. Typically, the type of mares that are doing ET are higher quality mares that will produce foals of a higher value. So even if those foals are priced higher it doesn't necessarily mean that the value of all foals by that particular stallion will have an increased value. The mare plays such an important role in the value of the foal. So if you have 2 foals with the same sire, but one is out of a very proven mare with exceptional papers and the other is just a mediocre mare, the higher quality mare will have a higher valued foal. The other mare owner may try to price their foal at that higher value, but they likely aren't going to get that higher price because of the difference in dams. So financially the owner of the higher quality mare can justify the expense of the ET because they can recoup that expense based on the value of the foal. If the mares are similar, then the owner of the ET mare just won't get as much of a profit. Regardless of the expenses put into getting the foal on the ground, the horse is only worth what it's worth. Like was previously mentioned, owners can't always expect to get all of their money back out of a horse when they sell it. If you've spent $7,000 to do an ET but the foal only has a value of $4,000 then you might have to sell for a loss if you can't find a buyer to pay the higher price to cover expenses. The same with training, if you pay a trainer several thousand dollars to train the horse and it just doesn't turn out to be a performance horse, you might not cover all of you expenses when you sell. |
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Location: Arkansas | We went to a catalog auction in TX in March looking for a well broke gelding that my husband could start in the roping pen (he opened his mouth and priced his using gelding and the guy paid for him). The nice, broke geldings were going for $3800 and up-several over $10K. We ended up with a really nice paint mare (for my hubby who doesn't like paints or mares). We bought a bargain though, because she is broke, broke and we haven't found anything she won't do yet. |
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Location: Montana | Delta Cowgirl - 2016-05-24 3:06 PM Here is the "buyer from hell" cartoon video. Enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjX6UJXQKEw&feature=youtu.be[/qu... May I just say, that happens in our business, especially the last part where the buyer was p!$$y because we couldn't sell something for their price. We have had people trash us on FB and Google because we couldn't meet their terms, recommending them, politely, another place of business that could possibly help them. Ugh...retail can kind of suck, but oh well, such is life.
As far as horse prices, are they over-priced...that is a yes and no question. A horse is only worth as much as someone will pay for it, no mattered what it is priced at. Does that mean I agree with what some people price their horses at? No. But I just don't worry about it and move on to the next one. I think it is too broad of a subject to generalize and there are too many opinions.
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Location: Idaho | Tdove - 2016-05-24 6:23 AM A nice bred, broke correctly horse is worth over 4000. Each one of them probably has at least that put into them and are selling at a loss, if in the business of raising them. The real cost of a horse is feed and maintenance, which you will run up to that number, pretty quick. So, people get in their 50k truck which cost more to feed/maintain, whose value drops like a rock, then turn around and complain about a 5k horse. I have little sympathy for people that complain about horse prices. I have a simple answer. Get in the business of raising, training, or trading horses and you will change your mind immediately....
YES!!! When I was younger and I saw 3 year olds going for $10k+ I just never understood how or why they were worth that much... then we got into breeding a small program... top quality mares, top quality stallions, raising them, keeping them sound and training... yeah good luck touching one of my 3 year olds for under $10k!!! |
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Location: Scurry, TX | We have been in the horse business for over forty years and i have heard this comment every year about horse prices.
The reasons for good horses never change.
The time and money it takes to make a Good horse will never be compensated enough when it is sold,.
If you had to pay someone from the day a colt is born to the day you sell it as a riding horse. Well lets just say if would be a hard bill to pay.
Hours and hours of ground work and wet saddle pads are never thought of let alone the bloodlines, confirmation and ability of the horse
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| Alamo1 - 2016-05-27 3:35 PM
We have been in the horse business for over forty years and i have heard this comment every year about horse prices.
The reasons for good horses never change.
The time and money it takes to make a Good horse will never be compensated enough when it is sold,.
If you had to pay someone from the day a colt is born to the day you sell it as a riding horse. Well lets just say if would be a hard bill to pay.
Hours and hours of ground work and wet saddle pads are never thought of let alone the bloodlines, confirmation and ability of the horse
Try it sometime. Most of us do it for the love a very few actually make some good money.
AMEN !!!!! I breed barrel & roping prospects & some may say I am high on my price, but you get what you pay for. I have sold weanlings & yearlings that the buyers are in ahhhh with. Why, because they are handled since birth. A reputable breeder puts a lot of time & effort into their baby's. Our baby's are taught to lead at a young age as I'm sure Alomo 1 are to. This is alot of work. Then you have stud fees, mare at vets to be bred" vet fees", ship semen fees, if breeding doesn't take, repeat vet & shipping fees. Feed mare for 11 months, feed mare & foal until foal is weaned. Then feed foal. Lets not forget vaccinations of mare & foal & worming. Oh & if you have a foaling problem, vet charges for farm calls. This is not cheap. And then if said horse isn't sold by age 2 - 2 1/2, then we pay training charges & if you send your horse to a reputable trainer, it isn't cheap. I sure don't breed to make money. like Now there are
horse traders " the ones who go out & buy a cheap horse & ride it for a few months at jackpots & claim it is a top winning horse & sell it for $20,000 plus dollars & they have ruined it. Myself I breed for the love of the horse & this business of barrel racing & the best thing is when someone buys a horse from me & goes on to win with it, the happiness they have, well that is the biggest happiness I have about being a horse breeder, putting some happiness in someone's life. And NO I didn't post this for someone to buy a horse from me as some would think LOL
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Location: SE Louisiana | If you let yourself slip.... and become friends with the horse you have for sale.... you have a problem. Lets face it. Everyone likes to have a big friend... and it's pretty hard to find anything in North America bigger than a horse... so....
What price do you put on your friend? Probably they are priced higher than a lot of folks want to pay...
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Location: Florida | I have been on both sides of this discussion. If you want a well bred foal on the ground you already have 2 or 3 thousand into it. Add halter broke, loading in a trailer, stands for the farrier, you have another year's hard work. Then if you want well broke, $5,000 is practially a break even. Anyone who thinks different should raise their own colt and find out how much it really costs.
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| turn3turnsok - 2016-05-30 9:00 AM
I agree with almost everyone and I'll add
if someone else sells a horse I bred & raised for $1,000s more I definitely did something RIGHT in my breeding...
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | okhorselover - 2016-05-30 4:38 PM turn3turnsok - 2016-05-30 9:00 AM I agree with almost everyone and I'll add
if someone else sells a horse I bred & raised for $1,000s more I definitely did something RIGHT in my breeding... Not if you sold to a horse trader. Big difference in them & reputable barrel horse people. Question is, is the horse's you sold doing anything ?, like winning ? I am so gratefull for the wonderful professional people who buy horses from me. They are out there doing something. Horse trader horse's usually have issues & are down the road.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | okhorselover - 2016-05-30 5:36 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-05-30 5:04 PM okhorselover - 2016-05-30 4:38 PM turn3turnsok - 2016-05-30 9:00 AM I agree with almost everyone and I'll add
if someone else sells a horse I bred & raised for $1,000s more I definitely did something RIGHT in my breeding... Not if you sold to a horse trader. Big difference in them & reputable barrel horse people. Question is, is the horse's you sold doing anything ?, like winning ? I am so gratefull for the wonderful professional people who buy horses from me. They are out there doing something. Horse trader horse's usually have issues & are down the road. LOL I'm not surprised you said what you did. I pm'd you. Have a great evening.
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-05-30 6:48 PM
okhorselover - 2016-05-30 5:36 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-05-30 5:04 PM okhorselover - 2016-05-30 4:38 PM turn3turnsok - 2016-05-30 9:00 AM I agree with almost everyone and I'll add
if someone else sells a horse I bred & raised for $1,000s more I definitely did something RIGHT in my breeding... Not if you sold to a horse trader. Big difference in them & reputable barrel horse people. Question is, is the horse's you sold doing anything ?, like winning ? I am so gratefull for the wonderful professional people who buy horses from me. They are out there doing something. Horse trader horse's usually have issues & are down the road. LOL I'm not surprised you said what you did. I pm'd you. Have a great evening.
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Location: TEXAS | Three 4 Luck - 2016-05-30 5:04 PM okhorselover - 2016-05-30 4:38 PM turn3turnsok - 2016-05-30 9:00 AM I agree with almost everyone and I'll add
if someone else sells a horse I bred & raised for $1,000s more I definitely did something RIGHT in my breeding... Not if you sold to a horse trader. Big difference in them & reputable barrel horse people. Question is, is the horse's you sold doing anything ?, like winning ? I am so gratefull for the wonderful professional people who buy horses from me. They are out there doing something. Horse trader horse's usually have issues & are down the road.
Actually they are all doing very well Thank You
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Location: Arkansas | I don't barrel race, so this may not be worth much in this thread----but I thank God for my plain ole trail horses!!!!!! I have one that was around the 4000 mark when I bought him, and I had more than one barrel racer try to buy him. He's older now, but he was one of the first horses I got on after my wreck (he was 5 at the time) and he took care of me every time. To me that was priceless. . . |
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| Chandler's Mom - 2016-05-31 12:47 AM I don't barrel race, so this may not be worth much in this thread----but I thank God for my plain ole trail horses!!!!!! I have one that was around the 4000 mark when I bought him, and I had more than one barrel racer try to buy him. He's older now, but he was one of the first horses I got on after my wreck (he was 5 at the time) and he took care of me every time. To me that was priceless. . .
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Location: Where I am happiest | We take our mare in this afternoon to check to see if she is bred. We already have $5,000 in this prospective foal and it was a classic uncomplicated breeding and only shipping once. $4,000 stud fee, $300 shipping, 3 trips to the vet with her new foal in tow to ultrasound and then inseminate. So if we are bred, how much do you think we have invested just by the time we have a weanling? And you want to buy this weanling for under $5,000?? Then you want to buy the same colt as a 3 or 4 year old with a year of training for $5,000 and complain about how over priced horses are? GOOD LUCK!! |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | ThreeCorners - 2016-05-31 6:15 AM We take our mare in this afternoon to check to see if she is bred. We already have $5,000 in this prospective foal and it was a classic uncomplicated breeding and only shipping once. $4,000 stud fee, $300 shipping, 3 trips to the vet with her new foal in tow to ultrasound and then inseminate. So if we are bred, how much do you think we have invested just by the time we have a weanling? And you want to buy this weanling for under $5,000?? Then you want to buy the same colt as a 3 or 4 year old with a year of training for $5,000 and complain about how over priced horses are? GOOD LUCK!!
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Location: Washington | Horse are worth what someone is willing to pay. I had my now daughter's horse up for sale a few years back. Had a big price tag on him, he was kid friendly and would win a race. Actually had a lot of interest but no bites, so slowly lowered his price and got LESS interest!
We currently have a horse for sale. He a special case since has does have an old injury that he comes up sore on if used too hard repetitively. Listed him on some local FB pages. BIG mistake! lol People need to read ads! If this one gal had she would have seen he was for Private Treaty not free and saved herself a lot of huff. She was NOT an ideal home so my husband priced him high, luxury of PT. Well she comes back and starts a rant on my sale post, so when I and a couple people correct her, she then accuses me of watching my horse suffer in pain and agony since I said in the ad I seen how he got hurt but not that he was seen by a vet. He's 16 and we've owned him for 8 years, I was not going to take the time to write his life story, that can be shared with serious inquires. |
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| Note: never talk about horses being over priced at the tail end of breeding season.
In all honesty though, it costs me the same amount in feed, vet work, and care to get a $30k horse here as it does a $3k horse. I typically only have race yearlings so I know those are different. That said, I do breed crossover foals and even some straight barrel babies. My mares are all very well bred race mares who are proven producers and/or proven performers. They all have very strong female families with earnings and blacktype behind them. I breed for what I like and I like fast. My goal with every Nick is to be perfectly happy if I were to keep the foal for myself. So far I haven't kept any (even the one I tried to keep I sold this year LOL).
Are my yearlings priced too high? Since I haven't gotten to keep one yet I'm guessing not. I sell private and in sales so I try to stay pretty aware of the market. |
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Are horses over-priced these days?