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| the tragic loss of Kalee Chandler and her horse has definitely shaken our horse community. We are aware that the accident was caused by her horse having a fatal heart attack and there was nothing anyone could have done or anything that could have been done to prevent such tragedy.
Nevertheless, I wonder if there are warning signs that our horses are at high risk of a heart attack. If so, what are they? What should we look for?
By no means I want to be insensitive to the recent events so if this question comes across that way, I apologize
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Location: SE Louisiana | This should be interesting. Homeboykris, the 9-year-old gelding that won the 1st race at Pimlico the other day, then dropped dead of a heart attack, should have been noticed if people can see something like this coming on. This horse was surrounded by professionals.
It's a terrible shame about Kaylee. We all trust horses to look after the kids, but this was not the horses fault. |
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| i have seen it happen at a couple of shows. |
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| Are there any vets here that can tell us what are some of the warning signs? |
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Location: Texas | I wonder this aswell.. I've seen a horse drop at the end of the alley before from a heart attack and die before a vet gets there.. It is terrible.. And with kalee's situation even harder. The only positive thing is the little girl got to take her horse to heaven with her. |
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| I didn't want to come across as being insensitive, but how old was her horse? I'm just curious. I had a few people ask me today how old the horse was and I didn't know. It's very tragic and my heart is very heavy for the family. |
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| I've wondered the age of the horse as well, not that it matters much as it can happen at any age ?? |
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Don't Wanna Make This Awkward
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Location: Texas | I "believe" I saw somewhere that the horse was 19, this could be totally me just mis remmebering things and who knows how accuarate the source was, but I do believe this is an issue seen mostly in older horses, obviously there will be exceptions though. |
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Location: Florida.. | Its sudden. I dont think there are any signs ..
I know a calf ropers horse dropped and he was 10.. |
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Location: Kansas | I highly doubt it, it's just like a human except a man/woman is able to vocalize the pain and which horses can't. |
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Location: Deep South | Did a vet examine the horse? I know it was reported as a heart attack, but were any tests done to verify that or was it assumed just by what was observed by the people who saw it happen?
** I am in no way insinuating foul play like some have accused on Facebook. Just asking. |
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Location: SE KS | My husbands horse died of a heart attack, he was walking the fence line moving cattle, the horse reared up and came over, he was able to get clear & received a broken wrist. Very scary the horse was 14. |
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| My dad's rope horse died of what we believe to be a heart attack. He was out just loping circles on him one day and he went down. It was scary. I believe he was in his teens, so it was unexpected for sure. One thing that we noticed him doing before this happened was he would sit like a dog a lot out in the field. He would lay down or roll and then while getting up he would just sit there for a while (maybe 1 to 2 minutes). We didn't think anything of it till after but I believe it was probably some how health related. I've since heard that this could have also been a sign of uclers.
I cannot begin to imagine what this family is going through. They are in my thoughts and prayers. |
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| Same here, I have seen it happen and yep, if they are moving slow or standing they often just rear up and over. When I was in HS at a HS rodeo a head horse was backing into the box and reared over backwards. Looked like he was box sour but heart attack just hit him. I guess all you can do maybe is have your vet see your horse once or twice a year and pull blood like we do for humans. Maybe we can see something coming. But its pretty random. |
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Location: The edge of no where | I don't think there is any way to predict when it's going to happen. My heart breaks for Kalee's family. I've only seen it happen a few times, but they went down with absolutely no warning and it happens fast. |
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Location: Northern California | Can't tell on people all the time; pretty hard to predict on a horse. A bazillion factors could come in to play. Pray for peace for their family, above all!!! |
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Location: West Texas | It can be pretty impossible to tell, unless you are specifically looking for it, you may or may not find anything. We had a horse get lethargic and go off feed. Took him to a good vet with good equipment. Actually two vets looked at him. They found nothing and even checked the heart. The next day, he was dead standing up. Vets performed an autopsy and said his heart exploded. They said there was no way they could have known and nothing they could have done even if they did. I have known many many horses to die of heart attacks. Most of them it is no warning and instant death, often times while running. This is so tragic, but there is nothing anyone could have done to change the outcome of this tragic event. My heart is broken for her family. |
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Location: California | I feel like I have been hearing about these heart attacks WAY more often. Is this just due to social media now? Or is it really happening more often? I had also been wondering the same- if there was a way to tell or help it from happening.
I couldn't imagine what any families are going through who have had this happen.  |
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| A friend's horse dropped dead at the gate after finishing his run. (He had just walked though the gate) He was about 12 years old. I truly think he was running on fumes when he turned the third barrel and just tried to keep the little girl who was riding him safe. |
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| Most of the time their heart just explodes in their chest. Sudden death can also be caused by an aneurysm. |
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| I run an older horse and it worries me to pieces. I worked him regularly and I watch his diet and how he acts like a hawk, also I make sure I don't run his legs off ( safe his runs for the shows that count) ....Nevertheles his age worries me( early 20s and going strong) mostly after this horrid event 
Edited by love2ridepre 2016-05-25 3:23 PM
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Location: South Dakota | I lost a 6 yr old mare to a heart condition, she went from being full of energy to being listless, in about a 2 week period...one thing she did as well, was point with her right leg when she stood.
She was found dead in her stall one sad morning, and the autospy revealed a very enlarged heart, that was pale in color.
We thought we were dealing with a lameness problem, and in the end it was heart pain that caused her to point her leg. |
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Location: The edge of no where | ccarpe18 - 2016-05-25 12:36 PM I feel like I have been hearing about these heart attacks WAY more often. Is this just due to social media now? Or is it really happening more often? I had also been wondering the same- if there was a way to tell or help it from happening.
I couldn't imagine what any families are going through who have had this happen.
I don't think it happens any more often - it's just that news can spread so much more quickly and further now with social media. |
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Location: SW MO | We had an eight year old mare die of a heart attack. ( The vet came out & posted her )
She had foaled about 2 weeks prior. She was in good condition looked & acted completely healthy. She was out in the pasture with her foal. We called them in to grain them, she was running up the hill with her foal beside her & just fell over. I ran to her & she was dead before I got there. |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | I don't think you can predict when a heart attack will happen. One of my favorite horses was still winning team pennings at 24 yrs. old, and then got a small cut on her hip that required a stich to close it...in the process, my vet listened to her heart with a stethoscope and told me she had a pretty significant heart murmer and maybe it was time to retire her, which I did. She lived until I put her down at 35 yrs. old, so who knows?? My retired gelding died 2 yrs. ago of a heart attack at 28, and I never saw it coming, no history of problems except that his dam also died of a sudden heart attack at 22.
This is such a sad tragedy, but unavoidable in every way, prayers to her family and friends.
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Location: Northwest Florida | We had a perfectly healthy 3 year old boxer drop dead of a heart attack while outside playing. Completely sudden with zero warning signs.
As someone else mentioned, it's hard enough to tell in humans, that are able to vocalize their symptoms. I imagine it is pretty much impossible to predict in animals. I wish there were warning signs because it sure is scary. |
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| I just had an unstarted 2yr old die of a heart condition, what we thought and treated as colic. She was fine at 11pm then 6am the next morning she was having colic symptoms but ended up being a heart problem, there was nothing we could do for her. |
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