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Location: texas | ok, i know this happens to everyone, but how long do they test you lol?
as in, just a few rides or is it months????
my little cow bred filly, she just turned 5 a few weeks ago, i have owned her now right at 8 months now, and we have had our little bucking fits and temper tantrums, BUT she has ceased that with me...
BUT now if my hubby or kids try to ride she pins her ears and acts up.....
To me, it seems i have passed the test and we can finally move on w our training...
Am i just far off base, or is this a normal for some? what are ur experiences???
Let me add, she is sweet as pie, loves attention, laid back and calm but boy when SHE decided she was gonna throw a fit, she would throw a fit with me.....
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| Horses are pretty darn smart about what they can get away with with certain people. I have always been told, and I do believe, that the horses that are a little rough, little cinchy, bronchy, etc make the toughest competition horses!!! They tend to try harder and have more grit. Some of them never get over it. My mom Made the NFR on a horse that was cold backed, cinchy, kick your face in putting on boots if you didnt go slow, buck if you didn't keep him rode etc. Would try and kill the vet if he had his overalls on. lol Worming with a paste was NOT an option, SHots were dang near impossible. lol Had to be sedated and tube wormed. But that sucker would run TOUGH on any ground and kill himself to get around a barrel. He never gave it up.
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Location: texas | FLITASTIC - 2016-05-25 12:22 PM
Horses are pretty darn smart about what they can get away with with certain people. I have always been told, and I do believe, that the horses that are a little rough, little cinchy, bronchy, etc make the toughest competition horses!!! They tend to try harder and have more grit. Some of them never get over it. My mom Made the NFR on a horse that was cold backed, cinchy, kick your face in putting on boots if you didnt go slow, buck if you didn't keep him rode etc. Would try and kill the vet if he had his overalls on. lol Worming with a paste was NOT an option, SHots were dang near impossible. lol Had to be sedated and tube wormed. But that sucker would run TOUGH on any ground and kill himself to get around a barrel. He never gave it up.
if i had to describe her when riding, it would be grit and try, she's completely different horse on her back than on ground....
and yes, i have been told that too...RE "rough around edges" horses
my kids call her "devil" lol.... she has those tiny pointy ears too, people have told me that if i can ride her past the silliness and bucking she will be a great one....
i honestly think she is way behind, these last 8 months is probably the most she has ever been handled, when i got her she could barely lope a circle and hold it, i have hauled her all around since i brought her home....
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Location: texas | FLITASTIC - 2016-05-25 12:22 PM
Horses are pretty darn smart about what they can get away with with certain people. I have always been told, and I do believe, that the horses that are a little rough, little cinchy, bronchy, etc make the toughest competition horses!!! They tend to try harder and have more grit. Some of them never get over it. My mom Made the NFR on a horse that was cold backed, cinchy, kick your face in putting on boots if you didnt go slow, buck if you didn't keep him rode etc. Would try and kill the vet if he had his overalls on. lol Worming with a paste was NOT an option, SHots were dang near impossible. lol Had to be sedated and tube wormed. But that sucker would run TOUGH on any ground and kill himself to get around a barrel. He never gave it up.
FLITASTIC thanks for the encouraging words....
i dont like to be a quiter, i really think this little mare is special, just have had a ruff go at it |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | FLITASTIC - 2016-05-25 11:22 AM Horses are pretty darn smart about what they can get away with with certain people. I have always been told, and I do believe, that the horses that are a little rough, little cinchy, bronchy, etc make the toughest competition horses!!! They tend to try harder and have more grit. Some of them never get over it. My mom Made the NFR on a horse that was cold backed, cinchy, kick your face in putting on boots if you didnt go slow, buck if you didn't keep him rode etc. Would try and kill the vet if he had his overalls on. lol Worming with a paste was NOT an option, SHots were dang near impossible. lol Had to be sedated and tube wormed. But that sucker would run TOUGH on any ground and kill himself to get around a barrel. He never gave it up.
Boy, I sure hope you are right with this......my guy is definitely all of these but when he is focused he can lay down quite the pattern. |
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Location: texas | How old is ur horse??? |
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Location: SE Louisiana | This is what horses do.... Even among other horses they are constantly testing the limits. Checking to see how large the bubble around the Alphas is today... They do it with people too... always testing to see how far they can go and what they can get away with... This is the nature of horses. It's one of the reasons I love them so much...  |
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| Yes and I raised him. After 8 years I finally had to wave the white flag. I truly believe this horse is capable of great things but I won't be the one to get him where I know he can go. He is huge, cold-backed, spooks at things he shouldn't and not at things he should. He was scared of me carrying a rope in one hand but I could swing it all around him on the ground. He has a new owner and she texted me a picture of her on him, in a halter with a rodeo flag on a pole, draped over his head. That right there told me I made the right decision and he's where he needs to be. It was hard to wave the white flag but I am glad I did as I think he's with the person he should be with now. |
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Location: Montana | komet. - 2016-05-25 5:21 PM T his is what horses do.... Even among other horses they are constantly testing the limits. Checking to see how large the bubble around the Alphas is today... They do it with people too... always testing to see how far they can go and what they can get away with... This is the nature of horses. It's one of the reasons I love them so much...
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | My mare will absolutely try anyone new or who doesn't have their bluff in and she's not subtle about it at all. She's getting a little better with age--she's 6 this year and I can finally trust her to let my 11 year old lead her. When she was young and the kids were little, I had to scare them into staying out of the "Pippy pasture". She wasn't mean, but didn't respect their space and is bad about sticking her feet where they don't belong. I have it out with her about every 6 months--she tries me, gets spanked, goes back to behaving. This spring, it was when she decided to become a horsey kite one day while I was leading her from pen to barn. LOL I can give her shots all day long if she's tied, but let my husband try to hold her and it's impossible. He did finally punch her in the face last winter and she quit walking on top of him in the pasture.  |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | teamthompson - 2016-05-25 5:12 PM How old is ur horse???
My horse is 9 and he wasn't always this way but I'm not quitting. |
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| I bought one that this happened to. My sister rode her as a 4 year old and I ended up getting her for her 5/6 yo years. When others would ride her (including my sister who even had ridden her previously) she would be very hot and more or less out of control...Not dangerously, but enough to make you not want to get on again lol She would sometimes hop up in the front end also with other people, not rear, but just jump up. |
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| My Dad and Grandfather call those kinds of horses counterfeit. They tease you with hard work and good things and then try to mash your face in the next day.
The thing is, they make hard gritty horses that don't try to hurt you. I've been through 30 head of horses to get to the two I'm currently hauling. They are everything I could possibly want and they have the best personalities in the world and don't try to hurt me. Ever. But I found them.
Honestly I just don't have time to deal with somebody that wants to hurt me, human or animal. They can find a new home.
Yours sounds more spoiled than counterfeit. Spoiled horses take a stern consistent hand that isn't afraid of them. I'm getting to the point with the flood of nice ones on the market it hard to justify keeping even one of those around.
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| classicpotatochip - 2016-05-26 11:06 AM
My Dad and Grandfather call those kinds of horses counterfeit. They tease you with hard work and good things and then try to mash your face in the next day.
The thing is, they make hard gritty horses that don't try to hurt you. I've been through 30 head of horses to get to the two I'm currently hauling. They are everything I could possibly want and they have the best personalities in the world and don't try to hurt me. Ever. But I found them.
Honestly I just don't have time to deal with somebody that wants to hurt me, human or animal. They can find a new home.
Yours sounds more spoiled than counterfeit. Spoiled horses take a stern consistent hand that isn't afraid of them. I'm getting to the point with the flood of nice ones on the market it hard to justify keeping even one of those around.
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | I have only had one other person ride my horse since this behavior started and she felt like he is too smart for his own good.....he works nice in everything you ask him to do besides enter the arena. I have just recently had him checked over completely- teeth, chiro, vet, saddle and bridle. I know what I need to do now so maybe I will start making some true headway... we shall see! |
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Location: texas | Yes, i believe this mare of mine is super smart always 2 steps ahead of me....
Its hard to give up on one, and its only a short amount of time and weather hasnt been on our side....
Granted i do think if i could afford to sens her off to a "cowboy" to be ranches on for about 2/3 months she would appreciate my house alot more lol......
We have had our ups and downs but seems like she knows i am not gonna put up with her crap, and i make sure to make her respect my space unless i invite her in....
Well if anybody wants her let me know ;)
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| Yep, and it took a solid CTJ meeting for her to stop. Ballsy little Arabian mare that wasn't used to having to respect anyone but herself. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | teamthompson - 2016-05-27 9:22 AM Yes, i believe this mare of mine is super smart always 2 steps ahead of me.... Its hard to give up on one, and its only a short amount of time and weather hasnt been on our side.... Granted i do think if i could afford to sens her off to a "cowboy" to be ranches on for about 2/3 months she would appreciate my house alot more lol...... We have had our ups and downs but seems like she knows i am not gonna put up with her crap, and i make sure to make her respect my space unless i invite her in.... Well if anybody wants her let me know ;) Will post a picture of her.....
That's because she has two more feet than you do..
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Location: texas | Ha ha ha yes she does....
I have never had any horses "test" me like she has...
Oh well, u live and learn....
She is making me definitely step up my game, thats for sure! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | komet. - 2016-05-27 3:10 PM teamthompson - 2016-05-27 9:22 AM Yes, i believe this mare of mine is super smart always 2 steps ahead of me.... Its hard to give up on one, and its only a short amount of time and weather hasnt been on our side.... Granted i do think if i could afford to sens her off to a "cowboy" to be ranches on for about 2/3 months she would appreciate my house alot more lol...... We have had our ups and downs but seems like she knows i am not gonna put up with her crap, and i make sure to make her respect my space unless i invite her in.... Well if anybody wants her let me know ;) Will post a picture of her..... That's because she has two more feet than you do.. Here are the pics in jpg format..
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teamthompson - 2016-05-27 9:22 AM Yes, i believe this mare of mine is super smart always 2 steps ahead of me.... Its hard to give up on one, and its only a short amount of time and weather hasnt been on our side.... Granted i do think if i could afford to sens her off to a "cowboy" to be ranches on for about 2/3 months she would appreciate my house alot more lol...... We have had our ups and downs but seems like she knows i am not gonna put up with her crap, and i make sure to make her respect my space unless i invite her in.... Well if anybody wants her let me know ;) Will post a picture of her.....
That's because she has two more feet than you do..
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I had to laugh at your comment of 2 more feet that Komet made..
My diagnosis is simple ... you have a barn brat that you made by spoiling her and never taking her on long 4-8 hour trail rides to make her learn to save her energy for walking along peacefully. She doesn't know what a days work is ...
Find some trails at state parks and go ride with a group that is there or take your family and after 4 hours out on the trail .. put best rider of family on her to ride .. 6 hours next family member .......... this is after she has sulled up and laid down on you and you poured water in her ears with a water bottle to make her get up ... lol ..
At home .. saddle her up and ride for an hour ... tie her up with saddle for the entire day .. and every time someone walks by her ... get on her and ride her 10 ft or to the house and tie her in a different location ... and to keep her guessing .. ride her down the road or in the pasture for a minimum of 30 minutes and come back and tie her in a different spot ... keep in mind if you don't get more aggressive with her this can make her barn sour and add to your problems .... keep your arena and round pen work to a minimum ... this filly needs to be rode with focus and teach her to be a horse instead of a pest ... lol
While you are working on this filly ... saddle other horses for family members to do the same thing with their horses ... it will improve their riding skills quicker than you think ... and everyone benefits ..
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Location: texas | Southtxponygirl - 2016-05-27 9:58 PM
komet. - 2016-05-27 3:10 PM teamthompson - 2016-05-27 9:22 AM Yes, i believe this mare of mine is super smart always 2 steps ahead of me.... Its hard to give up on one, and its only a short amount of time and weather hasnt been on our side.... Granted i do think if i could afford to sens her off to a "cowboy" to be ranches on for about 2/3 months she would appreciate my house alot more lol...... We have had our ups and downs but seems like she knows i am not gonna put up with her crap, and i make sure to make her respect my space unless i invite her in.... Well if anybody wants her let me know ;) Will post a picture of her..... That's because she has two more feet than you do.. Here are the pics in jpg format..
Thank you SOUTHTXPONYGIRL
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