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| Would this bit be for a horse that is light in the mouth, but getting pushy in a Loomis? An o-ring is okay to ride around with, but she's pretty strong when she runs, so looking at this. Can anyone tell me what this bit is like, what it offers, what you use it for.....thanks! |
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Location: Southern Indiana | The double gag has a 7" shank, so its a big difference if you are jumping from an o-ring or a loomis to a shanked bit. I would probably start with something like a short shank lifter or a jr cowhorse. Going to a short shank with less gag and curb pressure is going to give you alot more than a loomis. You may even try a simplicity (not my personal favorite, but if the horse runs good in a loomis its an option). I only use my loomis and draw gags for home and then use something else in competition. |
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| I've learned with my light mouthed, but pushy mare that the more gag on a bit, the more one will lean on it (Carol Goosetree has a bitting video that addresses her bits and she touches on this as well). When mine started leaning on an o-ring or sliding Loomis type gag, I switched her to a short shank Pozzi Lifter with a twisted wire mouth for a few days just to remind her how to respect my hands. It's actually much lighter than I expected and the minimal gag helps a ton with her leaning on me or trying to push past my hands. |
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 The Bling Princess
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Location: North Dakota | I have that bit and it does not have 7 inch shanks; maybe its 7 inches from the top of the purchase to the bottom of the shank, but the shank itself it not 7 inches. The purchase and the shank on this bit are pretty much equal, so it gives gentle lift and control. IMHO its a nice little bit for a soft mouthed horse that needs a little more control on the pattern. I do slow work in mine, but there is no way I can run my horse in it, as its just not enough bit when he gets to rolling. |
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| Thank you for the responses. I did see the C. Goostree video. Good information there.
So, perhaps going to the simplicity then. I agree (and why I asked) that the pictured one is just too much. I also viewed Deena K. youtube video and that's what she goes to after loomis. I have always in the past used Wright lifter bits, but it seems that was way too much for her, too much bite and she throws her head up. And, yeah, i am working on my hands too. But that's not an easy fix.  |
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double gag dr bristol short shank....who's used?