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Location: East Texas | After reading the 'overpriced' thread, what would you expect from a horse that is $10K or less? | |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | based on that thread,
A sure fire 1d pro caliber horse.
under 10, a mare and colored.
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For under 10k, I would expect to buy either
3D type horse, consistent, seasoned, safe - in its teens
Well bred Mare or gelding - started - 3-5 years old
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| stayceem - 2016-05-26 12:08 PM
For under 10k, I would expect to buy either
3D type horse, consistent, seasoned, safe - in its teens
Well bred Mare or gelding - started - 3-5 years old
Agree x100.
Paid $8500 for a well bred, well started, 3 yr old from a reputable trainer/jockey this past fall. You get what you pay for, IMO.
Not to say there aren't exceptions to every rule. Also bought a fabulously started, fairly-well bred buckskin mare as a 4 yo for $4500, but I think her owner let me steal her! | |
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| Depends. . . I've bought a prospect not started on the pattern for over 10k, and one loping the pattern for $2,000. $2,000 horse is still the best horse I've ever owned.
Right now I have a gelding that runs 7 tenths to 1 second off, requires no maintenance, makes the same run every time, doesn't need tuning, doesn't get hot unless we're up to run, etc and I would have a hard time parting with him for 10,000 because I feel like I couldn't replace him for that. I guess he may not be worth that to someone else, but he's worth it to me because it's not easy to come across honest, dependable horses like that. I've looked through $10,000 ads on BHW and haven't found anything I would replace him with for that price. | |
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Location: SE KS | WrapN3MN - 2016-05-26 1:23 PM
Depends. . . I've bought a prospect not started on the pattern for over 10k, and one loping the pattern for $2,000. $2,000 horse is still the best horse I've ever owned.
Right now I have a gelding that runs 7 tenths to 1 second off, requires no maintenance, makes the same run every time, doesn't need tuning, doesn't get hot unless we're up to run, etc and I would have a hard time parting with him for 10,000 because I feel like I couldn't replace him for that. I guess he may not be worth that to someone else, but he's worth it to me because it's not easy to come across honest, dependable horses like that. I've looked through $10,000 ads on BHW and haven't found anything I would replace him with for that price.
This, I have a 9 yo gelding, that is (to me) solid on the pattern, doesn't get hot, runs honest & I can haul him anywhere by myself & make a good run. He is SAFE to me & I don't think I can replace him!! | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | For 10k I'd expect breakfast in bed no less than 3 days a week.. | |
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Location: Oklahoma | WrapN3MN - 2016-05-26 1:23 PM
Depends. . . I've bought a prospect not started on the pattern for over 10k, and one loping the pattern for $2,000. $2,000 horse is still the best horse I've ever owned.
Right now I have a gelding that runs 7 tenths to 1 second off, requires no maintenance, makes the same run every time, doesn't need tuning, doesn't get hot unless we're up to run, etc and I would have a hard time parting with him for 10,000 because I feel like I couldn't replace him for that. I guess he may not be worth that to someone else, but he's worth it to me because it's not easy to come across honest, dependable horses like that. I've looked through $10,000 ads on BHW and haven't found anything I would replace him with for that price.
This!! I get so tired of people not wanting to pay that much for one that's solid, sound and anyone can ride. Trust me, you CAN'T replace yours if you let him go for that price. That's why I don't have anything priced under $10K unless it has issues, which I always disclose. I'm a firm believer in "you get what you pay for". If you don't want to pay, you're likely to end up with a piece of junk, and there's lots of those out there. I'm getting out of selling due to attitudes of buyers. They want me to sell them my good horses for half what they are worth, and I'm not going to do it. I'll just keep them and ride them myself. I KNOW how hard they are to replace. They'll either pay me what they're worth to me, or they'll stay here.  | |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | The best horse I have ever bought was $3500 off of craigslist! she was a 15 yr old solid 2D horse and ended up being a kid horse 3 years later and went as fast or as slow as you asked her. She was a rare find! But she had the worlds ugliest head. the rest of her looked phenomenal! | |
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Location: WI | I have a couple young horses that I am pretty fond of. When i get approached by someone asking if they are for sale, why yes, they sure are. Everything is for sale for the right price. I can slap a $10,000 price tag on a horse that to most would probably seem overpriced, but in my eyes it is one that I don't mind if they stay around for a while. And well if someone is willing to pay $10,000 than I'd be a fool to not accept. I also have "overpaid" for a particular horse, but I knew what the horse was capable of with time and knew she would be worth it in the end. | |
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | I find this fascinating...cause I look at horse ads constantly and most of the ones I like are young and in that 10K range, or order and in the 20K range. Neither of which I can afford at this time but I still like to window shop. I have a 14yo mare, pssm positive but I have her managed now and I don't think I would even sell her for that. I can take her anywhere, a kid can ride her, you can rope on her, work cattle. She is only a 3D horse now but I can go out and have fun and be safe. Plus she is gorgeous.
I'm taking some risks on young horses to try and find something that will be able to replace her...sending them off to a trainer and spending a little at time is my "payment plan" instead of one large chunk. We'll see if it works out. | |
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| A decent bred weanling/yearling, an older horse that requires maintenance, or a mediocre, started 3-5 yr old.
I didn't appreciate the cost of a horse until I decided to raise my own. After I pay the stud fee, vet bills, colt starter, etc. I have close to $10k in a baby before I can even consider starting it on the pattern.
Then comes the seasoning/hauling process that requires more money and PATIENCE.
I don't complain about the price of horses anymore. When I'm trying to stay in the middle of a colt while he freaks out over a yellow banner and I see a 10 yr old ride by cool as a cucumber, I understand why some horses are expensive. | |
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Location: Kentucky | I've seen weanlings at 10k and I've seen 4D horses at 10k. It really depends on anything and everything. Pricing a horse is very subjective. | |
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| CarrieH77 - 2016-05-26 2:12 PM
I find this fascinating...cause I look at horse ads constantly and most of the ones I like are young and in that 10K range, or order and in the 20K range. Neither of which I can afford at this time but I still like to window shop. I have a 14yo mare, pssm positive but I have her managed now and I don't think I would even sell her for that. I can take her anywhere, a kid can ride her, you can rope on her, work cattle. She is only a 3D horse now but I can go out and have fun and be safe. Plus she is gorgeous.
I'm taking some risks on young horses to try and find something that will be able to replace her...sending them off to a trainer and spending a little at time is my "payment plan" instead of one large chunk. We'll see if it works out.
I am in the same boat. Cant afford 10-20k so I am hoping to find something bred and built decent enough to replace my semi-retired barrel horse. I will have to put blood, sweat and tears into it just as I did my gelding now. I also buy where I can budget sending them off if I need to.
My gelding now is 13 with some maintenance/soundness issues and I don't think there is a dollar amount I could replace him with. he is 2D/3D gelding (3D on average day, 2D on good day) and hes SAFE. He is easy to haul, rides like a dream, broke to the hills and safe for the whole family. I've been offered 10k even with some of his soundness issues and I wouldn't sell him for that. AND he is bred for western pleasure/hunt seat ! haha | |
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Location: Deep South | Such a broad question! You can get just about anything for $10k.
You can get pretty,
you can get designer papers,
you can get a 1D winner,
you can get safe honest dependable,
the catch is for $10k you can usually only choose one of those qualities.
It depends on what the buyer is looking for.
There are weanlings with the hottest names in the industry on their papers in that price range, there are super pretty ranch horses, there are 1D horses that are either crippled, crazy, or have 1 foot in the grave, there are 3D/4D horses that give you the same run every trip down the alley.
Just have to know what you are looking for and have realistic expectations.
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Location: East Texas | BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-26 3:39 PM
Such a broad question! You can get just about anything for $10k.
You can get pretty,
you can get designer papers,
you can get a 1D winner,
you can get safe honest dependable,
the catch is for $10k you can usually only choose one of those qualities.
It depends on what the buyer is looking for.
There are weanlings with the hottest names in the industry on their papers in that price range, there are super pretty ranch horses, there are 1D horses that are either crippled, crazy, or have 1 foot in the grave, there are 3D/4D horses that give you the same run every trip down the alley.
Just have to know what you are looking for and have realistic expectations.
Lol...well, I don't care about pretty or papers. So I am looking for a 2D winner and healthy. Think I can do that? | |
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Location: Oklahoma | CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 4:48 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-26 3:39 PM
Such a broad question! You can get just about anything for $10k.
You can get pretty,
you can get designer papers,
you can get a 1D winner,
you can get safe honest dependable,
the catch is for $10k you can usually only choose one of those qualities.
It depends on what the buyer is looking for.
There are weanlings with the hottest names in the industry on their papers in that price range, there are super pretty ranch horses, there are 1D horses that are either crippled, crazy, or have 1 foot in the grave, there are 3D/4D horses that give you the same run every trip down the alley.
Just have to know what you are looking for and have realistic expectations.
Lol...well, I don't care about pretty or papers. So I am looking for a 2D winner and healthy. Think I can do that?
I can help u out. I have one & he's pretty & has good papers. Message me. | |
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Location: East Texas | dianeguinn - 2016-05-26 4:56 PM
CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 4:48 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-26 3:39 PM
Such a broad question! You can get just about anything for $10k.
You can get pretty,
you can get designer papers,
you can get a 1D winner,
you can get safe honest dependable,
the catch is for $10k you can usually only choose one of those qualities.
It depends on what the buyer is looking for.
There are weanlings with the hottest names in the industry on their papers in that price range, there are super pretty ranch horses, there are 1D horses that are either crippled, crazy, or have 1 foot in the grave, there are 3D/4D horses that give you the same run every trip down the alley.
Just have to know what you are looking for and have realistic expectations.
Lol...well, I don't care about pretty or papers. So I am looking for a 2D winner and healthy. Think I can do that?
I can help u out. I have one & he's pretty & has good papers. Message me.
Lol.... We are too poor to care about pretty and papers. We are looking for results. Thank you, but you already said you have nothing in my price range. | |
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Location: Oklahoma | CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 5:27 PM
dianeguinn - 2016-05-26 4:56 PM
CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 4:48 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-26 3:39 PM
Such a broad question! You can get just about anything for $10k.
You can get pretty,
you can get designer papers,
you can get a 1D winner,
you can get safe honest dependable,
the catch is for $10k you can usually only choose one of those qualities.
It depends on what the buyer is looking for.
There are weanlings with the hottest names in the industry on their papers in that price range, there are super pretty ranch horses, there are 1D horses that are either crippled, crazy, or have 1 foot in the grave, there are 3D/4D horses that give you the same run every trip down the alley.
Just have to know what you are looking for and have realistic expectations.
Lol...well, I don't care about pretty or papers. So I am looking for a 2D winner and healthy. Think I can do that?
I can help u out. I have one & he's pretty & has good papers. Message me.
Lol.... We are too poor to care about pretty and papers. We are looking for results. Thank you, but you already said you have nothing in my price range.
When did I say that??? I have 2 in the $10k & under range. | |
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| I think you could probably get a nice started prospect with decent papers or a nice consistent local 3-D horse. I priced my current 5yo gelding with a nice set of papers at $8500 and I have $7500 in training fees etc. but I want to move him due to me being pregnant and I know I won't get to haul him for awhile. If I could still ride/haul a ton no way would I take less than $12,000 for him ! | |
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| BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-26 1:39 PM
Such a broad question! You can get just about anything for $10k.
You can get pretty,
you can get designer papers,
you can get a 1D winner,
you can get safe honest dependable,
the catch is for $10k you can usually only choose one of those qualities.
It depends on what the buyer is looking for.
This hit the nail on the head.
Pick ONE. Lol | |
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Location: Texas | dianeguinn - 2016-05-26 1:58 PM WrapN3MN - 2016-05-26 1:23 PM Depends. . . I've bought a prospect not started on the pattern for over 10k, and one loping the pattern for $2,000. $2,000 horse is still the best horse I've ever owned. Right now I have a gelding that runs 7 tenths to 1 second off, requires no maintenance, makes the same run every time, doesn't need tuning, doesn't get hot unless we're up to run, etc and I would have a hard time parting with him for 10,000 because I feel like I couldn't replace him for that. I guess he may not be worth that to someone else, but he's worth it to me because it's not easy to come across honest, dependable horses like that. I've looked through $10,000 ads on BHW and haven't found anything I would replace him with for that price. This!! I get so tired of people not wanting to pay that much for one that's solid, sound and anyone can ride. Trust me, you CAN'T replace yours if you let him go for that price. That's why I don't have anything priced under $10K unless it has issues, which I always disclose. I'm a firm believer in "you get what you pay for". If you don't want to pay, you're likely to end up with a piece of junk, and there's lots of those out there. I'm getting out of selling due to attitudes of buyers. They want me to sell them my good horses for half what they are worth, and I'm not going to do it. I'll just keep them and ride them myself. I KNOW how hard they are to replace. They'll either pay me what they're worth to me, or they'll stay here.
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Location: Somewhere around here | outrundaizy - 2016-05-26 8:40 PM dianeguinn - 2016-05-26 1:58 PM WrapN3MN - 2016-05-26 1:23 PM Depends. . . I've bought a prospect not started on the pattern for over 10k, and one loping the pattern for $2,000. $2,000 horse is still the best horse I've ever owned. Right now I have a gelding that runs 7 tenths to 1 second off, requires no maintenance, makes the same run every time, doesn't need tuning, doesn't get hot unless we're up to run, etc and I would have a hard time parting with him for 10,000 because I feel like I couldn't replace him for that. I guess he may not be worth that to someone else, but he's worth it to me because it's not easy to come across honest, dependable horses like that. I've looked through $10,000 ads on BHW and haven't found anything I would replace him with for that price. This!! I get so tired of people not wanting to pay that much for one that's solid, sound and anyone can ride. Trust me, you CAN'T replace yours if you let him go for that price. That's why I don't have anything priced under $10K unless it has issues, which I always disclose. I'm a firm believer in "you get what you pay for". If you don't want to pay, you're likely to end up with a piece of junk, and there's lots of those out there. I'm getting out of selling due to attitudes of buyers. They want me to sell them my good horses for half what they are worth, and I'm not going to do it. I'll just keep them and ride them myself. I KNOW how hard they are to replace. They'll either pay me what they're worth to me, or they'll stay here.
I feel like it also depends on where you live. I see horses being sold for a higher price tag in TX than they would in Colorado or Nebraska. I live in a small rural area and people scoffed at me and gave me crazy looks when I priced my good broke 3D 7yr old gelding for $7,000 when I was selling him months ago. I guess to be fair they weren't horse people, family though, but around here if you look at a horse that's priced at $5,000 then people are wanting a **** good broke horse. | |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 5:27 PM dianeguinn - 2016-05-26 4:56 PM CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 4:48 PM BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-26 3:39 PM Such a broad question! You can get just about anything for $10k. You can get pretty, you can get designer papers, you can get a 1D winner, you can get safe honest dependable, the catch is for $10k you can usually only choose one of those qualities. It depends on what the buyer is looking for. There are weanlings with the hottest names in the industry on their papers in that price range, there are super pretty ranch horses, there are 1D horses that are either crippled, crazy, or have 1 foot in the grave, there are 3D/4D horses that give you the same run every trip down the alley. Just have to know what you are looking for and have realistic expectations. Lol...well, I don't care about pretty or papers. So I am looking for a 2D winner and healthy. Think I can do that? I can help u out. I have one & he's pretty & has good papers. Message me. Lol.... We are too poor to care about pretty and papers. We are looking for results. Thank you, but you already said you have nothing in my price range.
ok, I don't know who you are, but I see you live in east Texas, and I recognize your avatar as being shot in Marshall...here's my opinion...you want a 2D WINNER, right? So , you are saying you want a horse that can run, say a 15.2 or 15.3 at Marshall, for example. And your budget is $10,000? I'll put it this way: if you can find a horse that can do that consistently, for that amount of money, you'd best buy it fast. Because it's easily worth double that, unless it's 15+ years old. I mean, anywhere you go in Texas, top of 2D means .5 off of PRO caliber runs...every single jackpot. So, I personally would not let a horse go for $10k that could do that, I'd price him $20k, and I would get it. Good luck to you...I just don't want you to get your bubble busted about the 2D winner thing. Honestly, that's setting your sights pretty high for that price range, unless, as I said, horse is 15-18 years old. Keep looking and don't give up, he may be out there, but you'll have to kick a lot of tires to find that horse. You should see what Dianne Guinn has...she is a straight shooter and honest. :) | |
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Location: Mountains of VA | BigMomma - 2016-05-26 3:25 PM A decent bred weanling/yearling, an older horse that requires maintenance, or a mediocre, started 3-5 yr old. I didn't appreciate the cost of a horse until I decided to raise my own. After I pay the stud fee, vet bills, colt starter, etc. I have close to $10k in a baby before I can even consider starting it on the pattern. Then comes the seasoning/hauling process that requires more money and PATIENCE. I don't complain about the price of horses anymore. When I'm trying to stay in the middle of a colt while he freaks out over a yellow banner and I see a 10 yr old ride by cool as a cucumber, I understand why some horses are expensive.
I wish every horse person would think like you. I am growing weary of trying to sell young stock. All buyers want top quality cheap so they can make money on them. They expect the breeders to sell at a loss to them. | |
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Location: Canada | I think it depends on where you live and what other horses are selling for and what caliber of horses are running (NFR, Pro Rodeo etc.). Where I live $10,000 would get you a solid 2D at local jackpots and 3D at bigger (300+ jackpots) that has no issues and is safe to ride. It wouldn't win a rodeo but would pull cheques at most events. Problem is it would sit for sale for a while and you may only get a handful of people interested.
If you took that horse and moved it two provinces over it would be at least twice the price and sell in a weekend. It depends on what your demographic is made up of and what the market is supporting for sales.
Here people expect to find solid broke, kid safe horses with no issues, no vices, etc for under $2500.
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Location: East Texas | CrossCreek - 2016-05-26 10:22 PM
CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 5:27 PM dianeguinn - 2016-05-26 4:56 PM CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 4:48 PM BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-26 3:39 PM Such a broad question! You can get just about anything for $10k. You can get pretty, you can get designer papers, you can get a 1D winner, you can get safe honest dependable, the catch is for $10k you can usually only choose one of those qualities. It depends on what the buyer is looking for. There are weanlings with the hottest names in the industry on their papers in that price range, there are super pretty ranch horses, there are 1D horses that are either crippled, crazy, or have 1 foot in the grave, there are 3D/4D horses that give you the same run every trip down the alley. Just have to know what you are looking for and have realistic expectations. Lol...well, I don't care about pretty or papers. So I am looking for a 2D winner and healthy. Think I can do that? I can help u out. I have one & he's pretty & has good papers. Message me. Lol.... We are too poor to care about pretty and papers. We are looking for results. Thank you, but you already said you have nothing in my price range.
Lol...that is OK. I don't know you either, but we tend to keep a low profile. We just show up and hope riders like you let our little girl win a little every now and then on our crap horses. I am a newbie to this barrel racing world. That is why I threw this question out there. So I thank you for your insight. That is the kind of info I was looking for.
You and I are looking for the same horse. The only difference is I want to keep and ride him, and you want to flip him and make money. Don't get me wrong. I am good with that. You can save someone like me a lot of hrs and even money out looking for a horse that fits. Since we seem to be from the same area, if you hear of one that might suit me, but is not what you are looking for please let me know.
Have a great one,
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | CrossDRanch - 2016-05-27 10:53 AM CrossCreek - 2016-05-26 10:22 PM CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 5:27 PM dianeguinn - 2016-05-26 4:56 PM CrossDRanch - 2016-05-26 4:48 PM BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-26 3:39 PM Such a broad question! You can get just about anything for $10k. You can get pretty, you can get designer papers, you can get a 1D winner, you can get safe honest dependable, the catch is for $10k you can usually only choose one of those qualities. It depends on what the buyer is looking for. There are weanlings with the hottest names in the industry on their papers in that price range, there are super pretty ranch horses, there are 1D horses that are either crippled, crazy, or have 1 foot in the grave, there are 3D/4D horses that give you the same run every trip down the alley. Just have to know what you are looking for and have realistic expectations. Lol...well, I don't care about pretty or papers. So I am looking for a 2D winner and healthy. Think I can do that? I can help u out. I have one & he's pretty & has good papers. Message me. Lol.... We are too poor to care about pretty and papers. We are looking for results. Thank you, but you already said you have nothing in my price range. Lol...that is OK. I don't know you either, but we tend to keep a low profile. We just show up and hope riders like you let our little girl win a little every now and then on our crap horses. I am a newbie to this barrel racing world. That is why I threw this question out there. So I thank you for your insight. That is the kind of info I was looking for. You and I are looking for the same horse. The only difference is I want to keep and ride him, and you want to flip him and make money. Don't get me wrong. I am good with that. You can save someone like me a lot of hrs and even money out looking for a horse that fits. Since we seem to be from the same area, if you hear of one that might suit me, but is not what you are looking for please let me know. Have a great one, David
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Location: East Texas | Well, this was interesting. I got a lot of PM as well as all these open comments. Seems many think you can get a decent horse for under 10K and many do not.
BTW...Disappointment was my favorite answer. Only thing is, I have been pleased with the 8 or 9 horses we have had that were not only under 10K, but all were under 5K. They have been sound, safe, and have worked great for us. I guess I should add that not only have these horses worked well for us riding through our pastures, but my kids have done ok in the arena as well. We have been down sizing, and still need to sell a couple of more. That is the reason I had been reading these post about horse prices.
So all of you that have the money to spend, go find that awesome horse that matches you, and for those on a budget keep barging shopping for that special horse. | |
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