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Location: Somewhere around here | Have you even judged someone who was riding just by the tack or bit that they are using? I'll admit, I have in the past but now I just feel bad about it because I don't know their horse or their situation. I still don't like it when I see horses with nylon tack on them but but hey, to each their own.  |
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| cecollins0811 - 2016-06-01 7:08 AM
Have you even judged someone who was riding just by the tack or bit that they are using? I'll admit, I have in the past but now I just feel bad about it because I don't know their horse or their situation. I still don't like it when I see horses with nylon tack on them but but hey, to each their own.
When Charmayne James entered her first rodeo she was on a sale barn horse (Scamper), used a fuzzy saddle pad and nylon tack. This coming from a story she told at a clinic. One of the veteran barrel racers told her she didn't belong. She won that rodeo and 11 World Championships. I'd rather see used or nylon tack and someone with real try and effort than $500 tack set and no clue. |
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| The only time I really "judge" is if I see a lot of unnecessary tack or tack that doesn't fit right at all and that just makes me cringe and feel bad for the horse! |
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Location: Kansas | This is why people get such bad reps.....because all others do is judge another based upon appearance/tack
I frankly don't give two craps what someone else rides in as long as its safe.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Ill adjusted tack or dumb choices (like a tie down strap not run through a keeper), I judge them to be a beginner who doesn't know better. As far as nylon/leather/blingy, I do sometimes wonder how horses hold their heads up with all the gaudiness hanging off them.
I bought a hot pink nylon headstall for my daughter because she's not old enough to appreciate fancy but loves color, and I have run in it a few times because of what bit happened to be on it. Never thought anything of it because I started running barrels in the 80s.  |
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Even if it is the crappiest tack and they show up in the ugliest horse trailer atleast they are making an effort and hopefully having fun |
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Location: TX | I started out in nylon tack (yellow and lime green to be exact, haha) .. so I am pretty good about not judging. I don't know their situation and nice tack is expensive!! I eventually learned that paying more for nice quality leather usually works out better because it lasts longer and is easier to clean and maintain. I sometimes notice ill fitting tack and I feel sorry for the horse. If it is dangerous, I may nicely mention something to the rider and offer to help. Other than that, I try to keep to myself and only worry about my horse and what we need to do. |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | I certainly try not to but none of us are perfect. There was one case where I had to laugh with a guy that entered a local 4-D had an english endurance saddle on, but he also couldn't ride well enough to even get around the pattern at a trot, so in that case I almost feel bad for him...then again, maybe he was just out to have fun? Didn't know him so who am I to judge?
Bottom line, it doesn't matter what someone's tack looks like, what their rig looks like, or what they are wearing...it only matters when that clock stops what the time is. People are judgemental all over the place. If you ride good and your horse runs good, that's who I consider good competition. The nylon headstalls and open stock cattle trailers don't concern me at all. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-01 6:53 AM Ill adjusted tack or dumb choices (like a tie down strap not run through a keeper), I judge them to be a beginner who doesn't know better. As far as nylon/leather/blingy, I do sometimes wonder how horses hold their heads up with all the gaudiness hanging off them.
I bought a hot pink nylon headstall for my daughter because she's not old enough to appreciate fancy but loves color, and I have run in it a few times because of what bit happened to be on it. Never thought anything of it because I started running barrels in the 80s.
I guess I'm a beginner then.... I don't run my tie down thru a keeper strap. I guess that's why people shouldn't judge others.
Ive never had an issue with anyone's tack, unless of course, the way it's fitted could become dangerous. However I don't find that as being judgemental so much as concerned for safety.
We sold a gelding recently and the guy that came to buy him had a decent saddle that fit him. However, his saddle pad was a thin, fleece type that clearly didn't offer enough cushion around the horses withers. My husband mentioned that he may consider buying a new pad. Instead of wondering if he would indeed buy one, we dug out a decent pad and sent it with.
If we are going to judge on tack sets, we may as well start judging on everyone's horses color. It is really beside the point unless it's unsafe. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Only time I notice tack is if it's unsafe or needs adjusted. I know a few trainers that swear by nylon headstalls especially for schooling. Might not mean they're cheap, but they're less upkeep than leather and won't break. Josey's used to strongly advocate using nylon for this reason. After growing up horseshowing, I have a strong distaste for judging on appearances, it's snobby....and appearances will fool you. |
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| LOL I don't Judge, but being a guy I do NOT want BLING...... I had to special order a saddle because it seems ALL of them are just to Blingy these days!!! I need to be worrying about my run, not if I'm leaving a Serovsky crystal at the 3rd barrel. lol |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | I don't care if I'm judged by others....my saddle is borrowed from a friend but it fits my horse well, my breast collar my SO bought me from a Pawn Shop because I wanted it- it was heavy leather with buffalo nickels on it and it cost $15, my saddle pad is one my son won running barrels, I paid the $300+ for a CSI pad but my horse bucked. If I worried about what everyone else thought about me, my horse or my tack, I might just stay home but.....its my money and I will spend it how I choose, even if its one entry fees.
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Location: Moving soon..... | Personally I do not judge for any reason. I feel if that person likes what they have that's their business, not mine. JMO |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | The only time I have ever judged someone based on their tack was last year when a horse came screaming into the arena in a tie down, brain chain (NOT a bohnet... an honest to goodness chain that went up over the poor guys ears and down in an x across his face and around his chin), and big long combination bit. and guess what? he went up the wall, even with all that. The poor horse couldnt even move his head he was so tied down and confined :( I don't feel like a witch saying that all of that is unnecessary... if you need all that to control your horse, go back to the practice pen and get him broke. or find him a new job that he enjoys.
I run my 16.1hh freight train of a horse in a sweet six. no tie down, no big warm up bit... I've had girls make snarky comments about how i'm going to get around the barrels with nothing in her mouth. last week we ran at a rodeo where first barrel is in no mans land. I'm gonna say 90% of the horses ran off going into first. My mare screamed in there and turned it. In a sweet 6 ;) Judge on! People will judge no matter what. Sad but true. |
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I could careless if someone is using a nylon headstall. I bought a couple just because they're cheap and it's something to put my extra bits on so I don't have to be looking for a screwdriver (because they disappear like scissors do!) just to change out a bit on a headstall. Usually the bits I have on them are ones I use at home, but if I have to make a run in one I sure don't care to put it on a fancy headstall at a race just because someone might not like it.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | When I started out, it was at horse shows. This is exactly why I still can't stand judged events. The clock don't care what you look like! |
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Location: Canada | I'll notice ill fitting or dangerous tack (a back cinch hanging low enough to catch a foot or one not connected to the front cinch) but I don't really notice whether the tack is high end or bargain based.
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-06-01 9:03 AM
LOL I don't Judge, but being a guy I do NOT want BLING...... I had to special order a saddle because it seems ALL of them are just to Blingy these days!!! I need to be worrying about my run, not if I'm leaving a Serovsky crystal at the 3rd barrel. lol
I love bling, If I cant blind them with speed my tack will get the job done
I would imagine it is very difficult to find bling-less barrel tack! I am surprised there is not more of a man marked line, more and more men are running barrels, and I think that's awesome!
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ~BINGO~ - 2016-06-01 9:44 AM Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-01 6:53 AM Ill adjusted tack or dumb choices (like a tie down strap not run through a keeper), I judge them to be a beginner who doesn't know better. As far as nylon/leather/blingy, I do sometimes wonder how horses hold their heads up with all the gaudiness hanging off them.
I bought a hot pink nylon headstall for my daughter because she's not old enough to appreciate fancy but loves color, and I have run in it a few times because of what bit happened to be on it. Never thought anything of it because I started running barrels in the 80s.
Ive never had an issue with anyone's tack, unless of course, the way it's fitted could become dangerous. However I don't find that as being judgemental so much as concerned for safety.
We sold a gelding recently and the guy that came to buy him had a decent saddle that fit him. However, his saddle pad was a thin, fleece type that clearly didn't offer enough cushion around the horses withers. My husband mentioned that he may consider buying a new pad. Instead of wondering if he would indeed buy one, we dug out a decent pad and sent it with.
If we are going to judge on tack sets, we may as well start judging on everyone's horses color. It is really beside the point unless it's unsafe.
The tie down thing is about safety. If you had ever seen a horse get their leg over it you would start using a keeper or a neck strap or something to hold it up. |
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| I question riders who buy $100 pants/$100 t-shirt/$300 boots but don't invest in their tack, besides that I try not to judge. I like to see what professional barrel racer that rider likes to follow. Example: A young girl had every piece of Sharon Camarillo tack you could imagine on or If I see tie-dyed pants on a rider, I see if they have other Fallon Taylor stuff.
Great quality tack isn't cheap and novice barrel racers need to find what suits their needs. That could take a few seasons before making that kind of investment. My first barrel saddle was $500 and it fit every horse I threw it on. |
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| RunNitroRun - 2016-06-01 11:00 AM
I'll notice ill fitting or dangerous tack (a back cinch hanging low enough to catch a foot or one not connected to the front cinch ) but I don't really notice whether the tack is high end or bargain based.
I will notice a blingy set or pretty set but its because I like shiny objects
This is me!! lol Im the same way.
The back cinch is the only thing that really bothers me but I usually dont say anything. And the tie down not being in something, simply because I have seen a lot of wrecks involving tie downs. Simple fix: rubber band.
And what is wrong with Nylon??? I have leather headstalls that I usually run in but I also have some nylon headstalls on a couple bits and I actually prefer nylon reins. And I have 3 sets of leather reins and I only really like one of them (ed wright). |
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Location: Wherever They Send Me | Im always looking at other peoples stuff...not to judge, but to see what everyone else is using. Im always learning something, and am baffled by bits. Im also attracted to shiny objects, lol... |
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Location: Jersey Girl | della - 2016-06-01 12:03 PM FLITASTIC - 2016-06-01 9:03 AM LOL I don't Judge, but being a guy I do NOT want BLING...... I had to special order a saddle because it seems ALL of them are just to Blingy these days!!! I need to be worrying about my run, not if I'm leaving a Serovsky crystal at the 3rd barrel. lol I love bling, If I cant blind them with speed my tack will get the job done
This!! If I can't be fast, I need to at least look good  |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | fulltiltfilly - 2016-06-01 11:40 AM
della - 2016-06-01 12:03 PM FLITASTIC - 2016-06-01 9:03 AM LOL I don't Judge, but being a guy I do NOT want BLING...... I had to special order a saddle because it seems ALL of them are just to Blingy these days!!! I need to be worrying about my run, not if I'm leaving a Serovsky crystal at the 3rd barrel. lol I love bling, If I cant blind them with speed my tack will get the job done
My theory is that if I have plain tack I will draw less attention to myself and my riding ability (or lack thereof) ?? |
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| I have never purchased a saddle with my own money. My uncle had a courts made for me when I was 10. That lasted me a long time and I still have it. I was given a Herford Tex Tan NBHA addition in '07 by my mom as a high school graduation present and I ride it still. Most of my pals have new custom double Js. I can still beat em :). I would love to have a double j, or maybe a cactus..but I am just too darn cheap to fork over the cash.  |
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| scwebster - 2016-06-01 2:11 PM
I have never purchased a saddle with my own money. My uncle had a courts made for me when I was 10. That lasted me a long time and I still have it. I was given a Herford Tex Tan NBHA addition in '07 by my mom as a high school graduation present and I ride it still. Most of my pals have new custom double Js. I can still beat em :). I would love to have a double j, or maybe a cactus..but I am just too darn cheap to fork over the cash.
We got Double J certificates as awards for a series, and honestly, if I had paid the $3200 for it as opposed to $600 (to pay the difference from the certificate), I would be sorely disappointed. I think just like the Crown C's were a fad for a quick minutes, so are the Double J's. Not that they aren't good quality saddles, they just aren't for everyone, even though everyone seems to be getting one! |
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| I use what I use because it fits me and my horse well. I owe it to him to have good quality, fitting tack because he's doing things for me because I ask, not necessarily because he wan't to for fun. So I did invest in a custom fitted saddle for him to make sure he is comfortable and because I had the money to at the time. But when it comes to headstalls and breastcollars, he has to earn those. Every set I have I have either won on him, or won enough money to buy it for him.
And I have first hand experience of being judged by someone at a race. I was sitting outside the arena before a run and someone walked by, laughing, and pointed to me and my horse and said to her friend "if they think they can get that big horse to run in and turn in that dinky little d-ring snaffle, they've got another thing coming." 5 minutes later I went in there and ran the fastest time of the weekend and the lady wouldn't even glance my direction for the remainder of the weekend.
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Not unless it needs to be repaired or does not fit and then not really "judge" because I was that kid in 4-H, I rode bareback at home, didn't own a saddle, actually borrowed one from the neighbor to show in so my 11 hand POA carted a 16 " rope saddle. I learned quickly about pads. I guess the only thing that makes me really judge someone is if they have the latest fads tack wise and clothes wise and their horse looks like it could use some feed or a farrier. |
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| I don't judge people unless their tack doesn't fit the horse or the horse is noticeably uncomfortable because of it (I'm looking at you, chick that yanks all over her horse with a freaking 10"shank twisted wire noseband combo bit, metal twisted wire noseband, etc. and wonders why their horse is alley sour). Do I like and have shiny tack? Yes. Do I run in a nylon headstall if that's the bit I've been using at home? Also Yes. Not sure what the problem is with nylon headstalls? |
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Location: Somewhere around here | horsiace1025 - 2016-06-01 10:19 AM
RunNitroRun - 2016-06-01 11:00 AM
I'll notice ill fitting or dangerous tack (a back cinch hanging low enough to catch a foot or one not connected to the front cinch ) but I don't really notice whether the tack is high end or bargain based.
I will notice a blingy set or pretty set but its because I like shiny objects
This is me!! lol Im the same way.
The back cinch is the only thing that really bothers me but I usually dont say anything. And the tie down not being in something, simply because I have seen a lot of wrecks involving tie downs. Simple fix: rubber band.
And what is wrong with Nylon??? I have leather headstalls that I usually run in but I also have some nylon headstalls on a couple bits and I actually prefer nylon reins. And I have 3 sets of leather reins and I only really like one of them (ed wright ).
Lol didn't mean to step on anyone's toes, I just personally don't like nylon tack, it's not my thing. |
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| I dont know if "judging" is the correct word...
But you can bet your bottom dollar that I am keenly observing every tack choice that you make as my competitor.
Heck yes I notice if you stand next to me in a DJ or Crown C saddle complete with heritage brand headstall/breastcollar and 5 star saddle pad.
Heck yes I notice if you pull up in a Bloomer attached to a Western Hauler.
Transversely
I am going to notice if you are behind the times on tack trends.
Am I judging you as a person or horse owner? No.
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Location: TX | I don't think there's anything wrong with nylon tack! I just get so aggravated when it gets hard and I can't slide the ends through buckles anymore! I had to pull out a pair of pliers last week to get a bit off of a headstall that's been sitting for a while. Leather is just more convenient for me.. plus I have a cool job where I can get it. LOL - that helps a lot!!
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | I don't judge I'm just constantly looking at others tack and saddle choices to see what all is out there. I was never one for bling, but I find the tack sets like Heritage Brand, gorgeous and eye catching. I'd love to have one! (Not to run in. I'd hang that sucker on a wall and stare at it all day every day.)  |
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| I also grew up in Nylon... Red, then Purple. I then switched to leather.
I don't judge as much as admire tack. However, there was this tiny pudunk barrel race and the girls saddle literally rode like 6" off her horses back and like a foot coming into barrels. And she whooped me around the block. Teach me to judge LOL
I also won a black Nylon headstall recently and its become one of my favorites because it has a really pretty award concho on it and I think it looks really nice. I also really like how sturdy it feels. Some of my leather seems to be crap, no matter how I take care of it or how nice of leather I thought it was when I bought it. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | LOL, me too, my favorite headstall for years was a brown nylon one that I used on my HS rodeo mare, we had to get the nylon one because pony tack was a little too small and horse headstalls were too big. One of the best little horses with the biggest heart ever to look thru a bridle looked thru that one right there. |
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Location: Missouri | Not so much judging others, but I DO notice ill-fitting tack. I cringe when I see the back cinch loose enough for a horse to get their back foot caught in there, especially.
And ok, if you ride up next to me and I see you totally blinged out in Heritage Brand tack (or something similar) and a $3k plus saddle, I will sit and silently ooh and ahhh to myself and I MIGHT think to myself 'dang, how does one afford all that?' But not in a judgey-mcjudgey kind of way. |
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Location: Here | cheryl makofka - 2016-06-01 9:40 PM The reason why I don't like nylon tack is if my horse gets hung up the leather will break before nylon will.
Yes I know that. |
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Location: Florida.. | This thread reminds me of elementary school when a group sits and decides whats tacky and if that girls hand me downs are good enough.......................geez
not all the posts but a few yes..and dont say its about the kind of tack people like.. because its not..
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Location: wolverton,mn | SG. - 2016-06-01 10:13 PM cheryl makofka - 2016-06-01 9:40 PM The reason why I don't like nylon tack is if my horse gets hung up the leather will break before nylon will.
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| IRunOnFaith - 2016-06-01 5:14 PM
I don't judge I'm just constantly looking at others tack and saddle choices to see what all is out there. I was never one for bling, but I find the tack sets like Heritage Brand, gorgeous and eye catching. I'd love to have one! (Not to run in. I'd hang that sucker on a wall and stare at it all day every day.)
LOL I have the same problem. A friend of mine bought me a new headstall and breastcollar (not a really expensive one) that has all kinds of bling and fringe and I am in love! So it hasnt left my house! Iv had it since october and keep saying Im gonna use it at the next big race I go to but havent yet. It is really out of character for me to have loud tack so I think I am nervous that I will get just that, JUDGED!
You should never "judge" anyone based on their choices. I think thats childish. People like what they like. As long as it is safe for the horse then i dont see a problem. However, if you see me staring at you at a show, Im not judging, I just like to look at other peoples stuff! |
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Location: CTX | Nope, I love looking at what other people use, but won't judge them for it. Like others said, the only thing I really don't like seeing is tack that doesn't fit, or could be a safety issue, like very loose back cinches or boots that have bad velcro...I've seen a horse get one boot stuck to another during a run, and luckily the horse stayed very calm, but it could've been a trainwreck..... |
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| When I go to a barrel race, I am usually so wrapped up in what I am doing I don't notice other peoples' tack, trailer or anything else. I try to take care of business (mine). There is one girl that will whip your butt around here. Her horses are groomed to perfection, clipped AND she has the most beautiful tack you have ever seen. She wins enough that she can afford whatever she wants. I do notice if she is there or not because it might be time to go home--laughing.
The message here is take care of your business first so you can improve.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I darn sure notice if somebody has quality tack and conversely if they have ill fitting or poor quality that may risk their horse.
Most of the time I keep my opinions to myself though.
I'm sorry but in the barrel racing world to my mind saddle and tack sets are just one more way that people like to 'keep up with the Jones.' Along with trailers, nice horses, etc. I think acknowledging this isn't a heinous thing. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would never judge someone on their nylon tack or what type of trailer and truck they use and their appearance, that is just awful, you dont know their situation!!! I knew of a little girl that her daddy would haul her horse to our weekend rodeos on a flat bed trailer with wooden rails on the side to keep her horse on so he would not jump off, that little girl had so much pride and she was just happy to be riding with us, this young lady turned into a wonderful horse women and now is a vet. How dare someone judge another person over their use of tack, this may be the only tack they could aford at the time. I used nylon many years back, who cares what someone else uses.. I just dont care what others use, its their life.
If I see a bit not sitting right, are something that could cause a accident, I will say something to the person in privacy.
Okay got that that off my chest
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Location: sunny california | Not really judging but I do advise anyone new to horses to buy one quality leather set of tack even if it is plain leather for working tack then they can get the pretty set for shows. One thing that bothers me is to see someone work so very hard and not have much money to buy tack then get ripped off on cheap bling- set on trash leather. It might be their only set then they use it every day and it falls apart. I kind of don't like to see someone get a very poorly made saddle that does not fit for cheap; however, it is brand new so they get it anyway. I feel bad for the horse that they did not have the sense to buy a decent used saddle for the same money. |
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Location: OH. IO | streakysox - 2016-06-02 9:45 AM
When I go to a barrel race, I am usually so wrapped up in what I am doing I don't notice other peoples' tack, trailer or anything else. I try to take care of business (mine). There is one girl that will whip your butt around here. Her horses are groomed to perfection, clipped AND she has the most beautiful tack you have ever seen. She wins enough that she can afford whatever she wants. I do notice if she is there or not because it might be time to go home--laughing.
The message here is take care of your business first so you can improve.
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-02 2:58 PM I would never judge someone on their nylon tack or what type of trailer and truck they use and their appearance, that is just awful, you dont know their situation!!! I knew of a little girl that her daddy would haul her horse to our weekend rodeos on a flat bed trailer with wooden rails on the side to keep her horse on so he would not jump off, that little girl had so much pride and she was just happy to be riding with us, this young lady turned into a wonderful horse women and now is a vet. How dare someone judge another person over their use of tack, this may be the only tack they could aford at the time. I used nylon many years back, who cares what someone else uses.. I just dont care what others use, its their life.
If I see a bit not sitting right, are something that could cause a accident, I will say something to the person in privacy.
Okay got that that off my chest
Well said! I've been wanting to comment on this post and held off, but you said what I wanted to say, so thank you! If we all worried about our own practice, performance and conduct and less about others the world would be a better place. We ALL had to start somewhere, we have ALL made the wrong choices sometimes, and we ALL have different resources. You never know where someone is in their journey in life. Making judgements about others "stuff" is more telling about you, than them.
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Location: Idaho | I am not a judgemental person at races unless I think its unsafe, I might suggest to help someone if their gear is set up wrong (bit backwards, etc) but mostly I stick to myself... Have a $800 tack set isnt going to help you win the race, but having a well fitted saddle will... I just smile and wave and wish everyone luck |
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| I started out on a paint horse that would rather stand still, neon pink nylon tack with a polka dot saddle pad and neoprene saddle. In a 2 horse trailer pulled by a ford that usually broke down in the parking lot. Alot has changed but alot is still the same. My tack is leather, my horse is faster and I pull a 3 horse steel bp trailer. But the Ford my husband has, does still break down sometimes. Guess some things never change.
I try to help those that dont have the latest and greatest tack. I was there once upon a time and I know how it feels.
No I dont judge someone based on tack. I judge them on the person they are. Some of the nicest people I have met havent had the newest stuff and some of the snobbiest, most hateful ones are always riding in the newest most expensive stuff. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Calangelo - 2016-06-03 8:08 AM Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-02 2:58 PM I would never judge someone on their nylon tack or what type of trailer and truck they use and their appearance, that is just awful, you dont know their situation!!! I knew of a little girl that her daddy would haul her horse to our weekend rodeos on a flat bed trailer with wooden rails on the side to keep her horse on so he would not jump off, that little girl had so much pride and she was just happy to be riding with us, this young lady turned into a wonderful horse women and now is a vet. How dare someone judge another person over their use of tack, this may be the only tack they could aford at the time. I used nylon many years back, who cares what someone else uses.. I just dont care what others use, its their life.
If I see a bit not sitting right, are something that could cause a accident, I will say something to the person in privacy.
Okay got that that off my chest
Well said! I've been wanting to comment on this post and held off, but you said what I wanted to say, so thank you! If we all worried about our own practice, performance and conduct and less about others the world would be a better place. We ALL had to start somewhere, we have ALL made the wrong choices sometimes, and we ALL have different resources. You never know where someone is in their journey in life. Making judgements about others "stuff" is more telling about you, than them.
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| jake16 - 2016-06-02 8:07 PM
streakysox - 2016-06-02 9:45 AM
When I go to a barrel race, I am usually so wrapped up in what I am doing I don't notice other peoples' tack, trailer or anything else. I try to take care of business (mine). There is one girl that will whip your butt around here. Her horses are groomed to perfection, clipped AND she has the most beautiful tack you have ever seen. She wins enough that she can afford whatever she wants. I do notice if she is there or not because it might be time to go home--laughing.
The message here is take care of your business first so you can improve.
We had a girl here show up in a rusty two horse bumper pull with an older truck.had a cute little arabian.she dressed proper and went home with the money.basic tack......loved to watch her runn; )
Many years ago I had a good friend (a guy) who was pretty tough to beat. He had what I thought was the ugliest horse. He went to a different event from our normal barrel races and a bunch of girls came up to him asking what his horse could do. He told them it was the horse his dad used to plow their little garden. He did look the part. After he beat the socks off all the girls, they came back and told him he had lied to them. He thought the whole situation was pretty funny. I think about that once in awhile and always chuckle. |
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| I keep coming back to this thread, and I have been trying to just leave it alone. I just failed. Nobody ever told me Bender was uncool when I ran him in his five dollar nylon headstall. It eve had a knot tied in it to make it fit right. Put it on him to try it, he won and kept winning. I wasn't going to change a thing. I won more $$ in that rig on more horses than anything else I own. Retired the headstall when a buckle broke, but I still have it. Who knew people were judging me? The pictured run, he outran Mary and Fred the year she won the world, but his rider choked and pulled him into the first barrel. That was when I decided I didn't have what it takes to play with the big girls. It is my opinion the OP has too much spare time. I am going to go grab a video in a minute of him with a good rider. This was the fastest run of a two day rodeo...same crappy nylon headstall
http://vid212.photobucket.com/albums/cc118/kmcsunshine/Videos/Untitled.mp4
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| When I picked up my newest horse from the trainer, she loaned me the bit she wants me to use till the one I purchased arrived, guess what-it's on a nylon headstall. I didn't think twice about it, I put that sucker on and enjoyed my horse. This gal can afford anything and has won more and done more with horses in several disciplines then most of us could even dream of doing. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | kmcsunshine - 2016-06-03 8:06 PM I keep coming back to this thread, and I have been trying to just leave it alone. I just failed. Nobody ever told me Bender was uncool when I ran him in his five dollar nylon headstall. It eve had a knot tied in it to make it fit right. Put it on him to try it, he won and kept winning. I wasn't going to change a thing. I won more $$ in that rig on more horses than anything else I own. Retired the headstall when a buckle broke, but I still have it. Who knew people were judging me? The pictured run, he outran Mary and Fred the year she won the world, but his rider choked and pulled him into the first barrel. That was when I decided I didn't have what it takes to play with the big girls. It is my opinion the OP has too much spare time. I am going to go grab a video in a minute of him with a good rider.This was the fastest run of a two day rodeo...same crappy nylon headstall
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| kmcsunshine - 2016-06-03 9:06 PM
I keep coming back to this thread, and I have been trying to just leave it alone. I just failed. Nobody ever told me Bender was uncool when I ran him in his five dollar nylon headstall. It eve had a knot tied in it to make it fit right. Put it on him to try it, he won and kept winning. I wasn't going to change a thing. I won more $$ in that rig on more horses than anything else I own. Retired the headstall when a buckle broke, but I still have it. Who knew people were judging me? The pictured run, he outran Mary and Fred the year she won the world, but his rider choked and pulled him into the first barrel. That was when I decided I didn't have what it takes to play with the big girls. It is my opinion the OP has too much spare time. I am going to go grab a video in a minute of him with a good rider.This was the fastest run of a two day rodeo...same crappy nylon headstall
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I still have my nylon headstall/bit and breastcollar that I used on my mare, shes been dead for about 15 years now and it still sits with her bit on it, dont use it on anybody else it was hers..
And got other nylon breastcollars and headstalls from the good old days still sitting in my tackroom. I dont think I was being judged over useing them, I got compliments on mine they were on the fancy side back in the day. In fact these were the Martha Josey line, they had leather cheek pieces and nylon on the top part I think, are could be the other way around. But they were pretty cool looking, got to check them out tomorrow, lol.. |
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Location: MD | I am a very superstitious person. I use certain things on certain horses and I don't care how ridiculous I look. It makes me feel better, more confident and I ride better. This past year at the NBHA World Show, I was laughing with a friend in the warm up pen about my lack of matching tack on my horse. There I was, maroon nylon, one ear headstall. Tie down on a red hanger, with a black tie down strap. White Ed Hardy breast collar, pink and beige wool show blanket, a pair of black and pink zebra polos on one alternating pair of legs and bubble gum pink polos on the other. To top it off, I was wearing a hot pink shirt! Now, I didn't win the Round that day, but I was 18th out of 799. Oh, I had been 7th in the 21 Race the day before too.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | WrapSnap - 2016-06-03 10:16 PM I am a very superstitious person. I use certain things on certain horses and I don't care how ridiculous I look. It makes me feel better, more confident and I ride better. This past year at the NBHA World Show, I was laughing with a friend in the warm up pen about my lack of matching tack on my horse. There I was, maroon nylon, one ear headstall. Tie down on a red hanger, with a black tie down strap. White Ed Hardy breast collar, pink and beige wool show blanket, a pair of black and pink zebra polos on one alternating pair of legs and bubble gum pink polos on the other. To top it off, I was wearing a hot pink shirt! Now, I didn't win the Round that day, but I was 18th out of 799. Oh, I had been 7th in the 21 Race the day before too.
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Location: MD | Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-03 10:25 PM
WrapSnap - 2016-06-03 10:16 PM I am a very superstitious person. I use certain things on certain horses and I don't care how ridiculous I look. It makes me feel better, more confident and I ride better. This past year at the NBHA World Show, I was laughing with a friend in the warm up pen about my lack of matching tack on my horse. There I was, maroon nylon, one ear headstall. Tie down on a red hanger, with a black tie down strap. White Ed Hardy breast collar, pink and beige wool show blanket, a pair of black and pink zebra polos on one alternating pair of legs and bubble gum pink polos on the other. To top it off, I was wearing a hot pink shirt! Now, I didn't win the Round that day, but I was 18th out of 799. Oh, I had been 7th in the 21 Race the day before too.
So you and your horses were very Flamboyant,
That mare's owner always ran her in pink and they were quite successful. When I took over the ride, I took the pink off of her for two runs and they both stunk! Salpped the pink back on her and we went to having the sort of runs that we should. I never ran her in anything but pink again! lol |
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| I run in a leather headstall I got from tractor supplies. I have other nicer sets but just like the simple stuff. A snaffle and a breast collar I borrowed of my moms bf who never rides ;) if I start winning maybe I'll purchase something more expensive, but for now I'm happy with the simple stuff. My saddle has a purple seat so for me that's enough *bling* my boots for my horse is black cause no matter what everything goes with black.
I do like to see what everyone has on or what their riding styles. So if I'm staring at you, I'm not judging. I'm admiring your pretty horse and tack!! |
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| Seems like I get whatever is left over....my kids claim all the nicer stuff....I'm lucky if I have matching leg boots to wear, LOL |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | WrapSnap - 2016-06-03 11:14 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-03 10:25 PM WrapSnap - 2016-06-03 10:16 PM I am a very superstitious person. I use certain things on certain horses and I don't care how ridiculous I look. It makes me feel better, more confident and I ride better. This past year at the NBHA World Show, I was laughing with a friend in the warm up pen about my lack of matching tack on my horse. There I was, maroon nylon, one ear headstall. Tie down on a red hanger, with a black tie down strap. White Ed Hardy breast collar, pink and beige wool show blanket, a pair of black and pink zebra polos on one alternating pair of legs and bubble gum pink polos on the other. To top it off, I was wearing a hot pink shirt! Now, I didn't win the Round that day, but I was 18th out of 799. Oh, I had been 7th in the 21 Race the day before too. So you and your horses were very Flamboyant, That mare's owner always ran her in pink and they were quite successful. When I took over the ride, I took the pink off of her for two runs and they both stunk! Salpped the pink back on her and we went to having the sort of runs that we should. I never ran her in anything but pink again! lol
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Location: California | I had to bump this back up.... Has anyone else come across the facebook page "Tacky Tack of the Day"? I just became aware of it. Supposedly it's a page pure based off making fun of other peoples tack. Down to the point of stealing other peoples pictures, and posting them. WTH??!  |
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Location: SE KS | I use nothing fancy - just leather - no bling.....
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ccarpe18 - 2016-06-20 1:18 PM
I had to bump this back up.... Has anyone else come across the facebook page "Tacky Tack of the Day"? I just became aware of it. Supposedly it's a page pure based off making fun of other peoples tack. Down to the point of stealing other peoples pictures, and posting them. WTH??!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-20 1:46 PM ccarpe18 - 2016-06-20 1:18 PM I had to bump this back up.... Has anyone else come across the facebook page "Tacky Tack of the Day"? I just became aware of it. Supposedly it's a page pure based off making fun of other peoples tack. Down to the point of stealing other peoples pictures, and posting them. WTH??! I got blocked from there for arguing with the Queen.
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Location: California | Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-20 11:46 AM
ccarpe18 - 2016-06-20 1:18 PM
I had to bump this back up.... Has anyone else come across the facebook page "Tacky Tack of the Day"? I just became aware of it. Supposedly it's a page pure based off making fun of other peoples tack. Down to the point of stealing other peoples pictures, and posting them. WTH??!
I got blocked from there for arguing with the Queen.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ccarpe18 - 2016-06-20 1:53 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-20 11:46 AM ccarpe18 - 2016-06-20 1:18 PM I had to bump this back up.... Has anyone else come across the facebook page "Tacky Tack of the Day"? I just became aware of it. Supposedly it's a page pure based off making fun of other peoples tack. Down to the point of stealing other peoples pictures, and posting them. WTH??! I got blocked from there for arguing with the Queen. LOL I'm not allowed in!-denied.
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Location: Kansas | ccarpe18 - 2016-06-20 1:53 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-20 11:46 AM ccarpe18 - 2016-06-20 1:18 PM I had to bump this back up.... Has anyone else come across the facebook page "Tacky Tack of the Day"? I just became aware of it. Supposedly it's a page pure based off making fun of other peoples tack. Down to the point of stealing other peoples pictures, and posting them. WTH??! I got blocked from there for arguing with the Queen. LOL I'm not allowed in!-denied.
That whole group just ticks me off.....nothing but a bunch of keyboard warriors who believe their sh** don't stink because they are such "horsemen" on their big knot headed nags. |
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Location: Northern Ontario | Well, I have very fancy tack, a fancy horse trailer (even if its just a two horse) pretty show clothes, and a fancy coloured horse (who isnt even bred for barrels). I look the part, but am definitely not. I am just starting out again and have always asked for horse stuff for all my birthdays (when I was in university and horseless), my trailer was a killer deal, my horse was bought as a wild two year old for cheap, and I borrow my bfs fancy lifted truck because I can't afford one. So sometimes you can be judged for looking the part and sucking lol |
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| Katie's - 2016-06-20 2:33 PM
Silly.
I agree. You know I am really enjoying my 50's - I just don't judge any more. It takes up to much energy and I don't have that much extra energy anymore, lol. I love the differences in people, it would be such a boring world if we all did, looked and said the same things. Diversity rocks, people! |
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| I have probably been featured on that tacky tack page,lol, but I could care less. They probably make fun of my facial expressions too. (I was at QH Congress once and someone told me where the pictures of the runs were and a couple of people were in there looking. I waited patiently while the laughed at some people, then looked over their shoulder after one burst of hilarity and lo and behold, they were laughing at MY picture!).
I have no problems with nylon....if it has regular buckles. All those fancy bridles usually have Chicago screws and I hate them. Have had them come undone even WITH nail polish for insurance. I have seen many a wreck and almost wrecks from one coming undone, so I prefer a safer route over flash and maybe no dash.
Good serviceable tack. Then there is the ratty built up saddle pad I have been running in. It was the final piece in the solution of my downhill mare. I have been trying to find a decent looking new one, but they are ALL tacky looking. I mean the old fashioned ones, a Corrector type pad will not do!
Add to all of that that I use rubber bands like most use duct tape. Need a keeper? Use a rubber band. Once something works, why change it? I have a VERY superstitious friend who has made the IFR several times. She was having trouble settling on headgear for her mare. I lent her a hackamore complete with faded red (pink she called it) vet wrap on the nose and rubber bands for keepers all over the headstall and a pair of old, worn out MJ knot reins completed the ensemble. I think she won that rodeo and forced me to sell her that very bridle. She refused to change a thing. When the rubber bands broke, she replaced them with new ones, all to the despair of one of our VERY OCD friends and to the amusement of all.
I like good, serviceable tack. I do like some fancy stuff. If I like it, I keep it and use it long after it has gone out of fashion.
You won't catch me winning any fashion shows but if I can make it to the pay window, I am happy. Go ahead and judge. I don't know you so why would I care what you think? |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Honestly who cares if you have fancy tack or not. I personally enjoy having matching ensembles. I figure even if I'm not fast, at least I will look good!
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Location: North Dakota | I'm guilty. Absolutely guilty. But I do not do that to be snotty. I won't judge someone for having inexpensive tack or an older saddle or what have you. I make judgements based on if the saddle CLEARLY does not fit the horse, or the pad is something like a Tacky Too that is sooooo bad for them or if they have a crazy bit or a tie down that's way too tight. Any tack that is being used totally wrong, does not fit, or looks unsafe irks me. Mismatched tack also *slightly* gets to me just because it looks so messy and visually unappealing, but I understand a lot of people don't care and it's none of my business. I've been pretty mismatched before myself, but in that case I drive myself nuts! |
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Location: Windoming | There are so many things more important than worrying about someone's choice of tack............................... |
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| unless it is dangerous to allow the rider to keep it the way they are doing it, hurting the horse or hindering the rider, I don't care and will not say anything. But I did have to tell the judge at a play day doing the "tack safety check" that I would NOT move the curb chain of my bit into the snaffle rein hole at his direction.
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Location: MS | I do not judge at all! I love my nylon headstalls and tie downs! It's not my place to judge! If you want to judge someone go judge pleasure classes!!! |
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Location: New Mexico | I recently purchased 5 nylon headstalls because I have too many bits. I LOVE them. I like how you can switch bits on them with a snap, not having to do the whole Chicago scew thing |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | I'm a lurker on that page (Tacky Tack of the Day) . I have yet to post, yet to comment and yet to like one single picture. A friend was posted on there a few months or so ago and you know what she said when she saw her picture of her going around the first barrel posted there???
"Ugh! Finally!"
I must've looked at her funny cause she continued:
"Now I know I'm good. People don't like that I'm winning so they have to bash what I'm wearing and how I have to ride him." (Her leg was pulled up to miss the barrel. He gets really close sometimes and makes us both nervous.)
Couldn't really argue with that. Loved her attitude toward it. She did laugh at her funny face she was making in the picture but hey, we all have that one picture from a race we'd rather forget LOL
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | For all you guys who love Nylon:
Found these for ya'll this weekend at my favorite store!
I think they were 15 for the solids and 25 for the prints but I don't remember exact numbers.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The ones that are sitting around and judging someone's Nylon tack that they dont even know who this person is, well the ones judging need to get a LIFE. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2016-06-22 4:38 PM For all you guys who love Nylon:
Found these for ya'll this weekend at my favorite store!
I think they were 15 for the solids and 25 for the prints but I don't remember exact numbers.
OoooO look at all the pretty colors |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-22 4:45 PM IRunOnFaith - 2016-06-22 4:38 PM For all you guys who love Nylon:
Found these for ya'll this weekend at my favorite store!
I think they were 15 for the solids and 25 for the prints but I don't remember exact numbers.
Haha! I'm not much for nylon tack, but I know a lot of people who love it.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2016-06-22 4:49 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-22 4:45 PM IRunOnFaith - 2016-06-22 4:38 PM For all you guys who love Nylon:
Found these for ya'll this weekend at my favorite store!
I think they were 15 for the solids and 25 for the prints but I don't remember exact numbers.
Thought you guys would like them when I saw them hanging there.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-22 4:52 PM IRunOnFaith - 2016-06-22 4:49 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-22 4:45 PM IRunOnFaith - 2016-06-22 4:38 PM For all you guys who love Nylon:
Found these for ya'll this weekend at my favorite store!
I think they were 15 for the solids and 25 for the prints but I don't remember exact numbers.
Thought you guys would like them when I saw them hanging there.
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Location: Northwest Florida | jschipper - 2016-06-01 10:27 AM
The only time I have ever judged someone based on their tack was last year when a horse came screaming into the arena in a tie down, brain chain (NOT a bohnet... an honest to goodness chain that went up over the poor guys ears and down in an x across his face and around his chin), and big long combination bit. and guess what? he went up the wall, even with all that. The poor horse couldnt even move his head he was so tied down and confined :( I don't feel like a witch saying that all of that is unnecessary... if you need all that to control your horse, go back to the practice pen and get him broke. or find him a new job that he enjoys.
I run my 16.1hh freight train of a horse in a sweet six. no tie down, no big warm up bit... I've had girls make snarky comments about how i'm going to get around the barrels with nothing in her mouth. last week we ran at a rodeo where first barrel is in no mans land. I'm gonna say 90% of the horses ran off going into first. My mare screamed in there and turned it. In a sweet 6 ;) Judge on! People will judge no matter what. Sad but true.
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