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| So my mare I'm pretty sure is a bleeder after this weekend. Would like to get her on a supplement besides doing lasix. Does anyone have experience with finish line's xbl or bleeder stop or how they compare? I want to try this and hopefully not have to lasix as often? Thanks in advance |
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Location: Texas | It might help but Lasix are the answer don't be dumb |
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| mollibtexan - 2016-06-05 9:42 PM
It might help but Lasix are the answer don't be dumb
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Location: Texas | Have the horse scoped. Why do you think it bled? Month off and antibiotics. |
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| Well, here's the deal. Studies show that 80% of horses that do what barrel horses or race horses do, bleed. Those same studys showed 99% improvement when given lasix. The lasix lowers the blood pressure allowing the vessels to not rupture when under intense pressure (a run). When they do bleed, it takes 2 weeks of rest for the vessels to be considered healed. So, i don't know if there are any proven studies with the powders or the patches, but there is many proven studies with lasix. I wouldn't try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to bleeding. When they bleed, it is like they are drowning. And that to me is way more "inhumane" then giving a shot of lasix! |
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Location: Texas | triselaine - 2016-06-05 10:04 PM
Well, here's the deal. Studies show that 80% of horses that do what barrel horses or race horses do, bleed. Those same studys showed 99% improvement when given lasix. The lasix lowers the blood pressure allowing the vessels to not rupture when under intense pressure (a run). When they do bleed, it takes 2 weeks of rest for the vessels to be considered healed. So, i don't know if there are any proven studies with the powders or the patches, but there is many proven studies with lasix. I wouldn't try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to bleeding. When they bleed, it is like they are drowning. And that to me is way more "inhumane" then giving a shot of lasix!
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| Agree, over the years I tried many supplements and none helped my bleeder. I had him scoped every time I tried to run without lasix and although I did not see blood he still bled. Edited to add I paste with an electrolyte after giving lasix.
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | triselaine - 2016-06-05 10:04 PM Well, here's the deal. Studies show that 80% of horses that do what barrel horses or race horses do, bleed. Those same studys showed 99% improvement when given lasix. The lasix lowers the blood pressure allowing the vessels to not rupture when under intense pressure (a run). When they do bleed, it takes 2 weeks of rest for the vessels to be considered healed. So, i don't know if there are any proven studies with the powders or the patches, but there is many proven studies with lasix. I wouldn't try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to bleeding. When they bleed, it is like they are drowning. And that to me is way more "inhumane" then giving a shot of lasix!
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Location: Texas | rodeomom3 - 2016-06-06 6:11 AM
Agree, over the years I tried many supplements and none helped my bleeder. I had him scoped every time I tried to run without lasix and although I did not see blood he still bled. Edited to add I paste with an electrolyte after giving lasix.
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| So how long after I give lasix should I paste with an electrolyte? I know she can't have water which that bothers me when it's hot out..but curious to how long afterwards i can give her electrolytes thank you |
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| Wild1 - 2016-06-08 9:26 PM So how long after I give lasix should I paste with an electrolyte? I know she can't have water which that bothers me when it's hot out..but curious to how long afterwards i can give her electrolytes thank you
Do not give electrolytes right after you lasix before a run or while you with hold water. Horses should have access to water when ever they are given electrolytes. I give my electrolytes after my horse is cooled out after my run and they are back drinking... |
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| WetSaddleBlankets - 2016-06-08 10:55 PM Wild1 - 2016-06-08 9:26 PM So how long after I give lasix should I paste with an electrolyte? I know she can't have water which that bothers me when it's hot out..but curious to how long afterwards i can give her electrolytes thank you Do not give electrolytes right after you lasix before a run or while you with hold water. Horses should have access to water when ever they are given electrolytes. I give my electrolytes after my horse is cooled out after my run and they are back drinking...
WSB is correct, I also give electrolytes after the run, cooled off and after he has been watered, not before the run. |
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