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| I need some advice on what to do. I have a 4 year old well bred filly who was at a trainer for 2 weeks. The trainer asked her to walk off, same routine every day...was doing great until yesterday and she reared and flipped over backwards with the trainer. I don't want this horse and I don't want to mess with it. I am 25 weeks pregnant so she needs to go elsewhere. Are there people who would want to take a chance and make her their project or what do I do because she needs to leave. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I have one who did this, turns out she has a bad case of kissing spine. Wish I would have x rayed her back before fighting her, getting hurt and sending her to a trainer. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | I'd say take the loss and send her to a sale barn. |
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Location: KS | I don't blame you for wanting to getting rid of her, but I would have her checked out by a vet. I had a friend whose horse reared up and flipped over. Luckily she jumped off in time. Took him to the vet and his back was sore and out of whack. A few visits to the chiropractor and he was a complete different horse. Just something to look into. |
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| ACowgirlsLastRun - 2016-06-09 6:56 AM I don't blame you for wanting to getting rid of her, but I would have her checked out by a vet. I had a friend whose horse reared up and flipped over. Luckily she jumped off in time. Took him to the vet and his back was sore and out of whack. A few visits to the chiropractor and he was a complete different horse. Just something to look into.
She could be but not something I want to mess with. She moves fine according to trainer but you're right she could have something going on. If I do sell her I will have full disclosure of what she did so she doesn't hurt the next person. I am not in it for the money and I don't care if i take a loss. If someone else wants to spend the money and check her out then great if there is a person who wants to deal with this. |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | You don't want her, so yeah, put her up for sale with full disclosure and cut your losses. If the price is right there will be a buyer. |
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Location: Kansas | List her and put "Cowboy" horse lol. I see a bunch of them, and sure enough....people will actually buy them. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | This could happen with almost any horse...and seeing as how this one has only had 2 weeks on her its not suprising that she had a brain fart....and there are to many factors to say why she did it.....mM |
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| mruggles - 2016-06-09 8:57 AM This could happen with almost any horse...and seeing as how this one has only had 2 weeks on her its not suprising that she had a brain fart....and there are to many factors to say why she did it.....mM
She was broke as a 2 year old, had 30 days, was ranch ridden winter of her 3 year old year, I put 45 rides on her myself before I sent her off to be started on the pattern, she was with this person for 2 weeks before she did this. Sorry I didn't add how much training she had had. |
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Location: Deep South | You said she's well bred. If that's the case, get some great pics of her, list her with all the info and you will definitely have interest in her.
Plenty of people willing to take a gamble if the price is right. I think you can do better selling her yourself than hauling her off to the sale barn. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | I had a gelding that began bucking any time I was on him. Final straw was him rearing up and falling on me. Thank the Good Lord above for watching out for me. He may have had back issues, but there was no way I could ever ride him and trust him. I sold him for bucket loads less than we bought him for. Never looked back and was the best possible route for me.
You're going to be a mama. List her. Take the loss. Get her outta the barn. |
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Location: Where the buffalo roam | If she's that well bred, put her out there as a broodmare and cut your losses. I had to do just that and actually worked it as a trade and it may take a bit, but hopefully my trade will give me a little return in the long run. I hate to see a horse go to someone as a "cowboy" horse that may actually have something painful going on because then they end up abused or going to slaughter. |
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Location: California | I'm a sucker for a fix-er-upper. I would take on a horse like that, especially a mare. I'm sure you can find someone interested. |
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| BamaCanChaser - 2016-06-09 9:41 AM You said she's well bred. If that's the case, get some great pics of her, list her with all the info and you will definitely have interest in her. Plenty of people willing to take a gamble if the price is right. I think you can do better selling her yourself than hauling her off to the sale barn.
She's a paint. A daughter of Judy's Lineage and is race bred on the bottom also. She, I believe, would be worth figuring out if someone wanted to take the time. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | newracer - 2016-06-10 8:19 AM
mruggles - 2016-06-09 8:57 AM This could happen with almost any horse...and seeing as how this one has only had 2 weeks on her its not suprising that she had a brain fart....and there are to many factors to say why she did it.....mM
She was broke as a 2 year old, had 30 days, was ranch ridden winter of her 3 year old year, I put 45 rides on her myself before I sent her off to be started on the pattern, she was with this person for 2 weeks before she did this. Sorry I didn't add how much training she had had.
I still dont think she has issues...lol....we have all seen older horses have an oh **** moment....and shes still just a baby....she should sell just fine...M |
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Location: Florida.. | newracer - 2016-06-09 10:19 AM mruggles - 2016-06-09 8:57 AM This could happen with almost any horse...and seeing as how this one has only had 2 weeks on her its not suprising that she had a brain fart....and there are to many factors to say why she did it.....mM She was broke as a 2 year old, had 30 days, was ranch ridden winter of her 3 year old year, I put 45 rides on her myself before I sent her off to be started on the pattern, she was with this person for 2 weeks before she did this. Sorry I didn't add how much training she had had.
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Location: Texas | First, PLEASE do NOT send this horse to a sale or somewhere that a kill buyer could get her, accidents happen.
I think you are over reacting. I fully understand you don't want to risk it and you are obviously scared. I highly, highly doubt this horse has "issues" other than being sore or in the wrong hands.
Put her up for sale on here just like a regular ad. list the training she has had and disclose the incident.
I also suggest not riding period, if you are this worried/upset about a simple accident then wait until you have the understanding that these are horses, they have minds just like ours and anything can happen. It is a risk you take everytime you go grab your horse out of the pasture or put your foot in the saddle. Accidents happen and the only real prevention is not having a horse at all. |
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Location: Mountains of VA | Bibliafarm - 2016-06-09 9:31 PM newracer - 2016-06-09 10:19 AM mruggles - 2016-06-09 8:57 AM This could happen with almost any horse...and seeing as how this one has only had 2 weeks on her its not suprising that she had a brain fart....and there are to many factors to say why she did it.....mM She was broke as a 2 year old, had 30 days, was ranch ridden winter of her 3 year old year, I put 45 rides on her myself before I sent her off to be started on the pattern, she was with this person for 2 weeks before she did this. Sorry I didn't add how much training she had had.
I saw the ad for this mare and really liked her. Knowing how much riding/training she already had, I'm guessing the new trainer had too much bit and too harsh of hands maybe combined with cinching her up too tight.
I think she would be a great investment for someone with softer training skills and patience.
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| I sae the ad for your mare and I lime her, wish I had the extra $$$. Would you take payments? Lol my JL mare was just diagnosed navicular, career over at 10 years old. I'll have to save up and eventually buy myself another! |
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Location: Florida.. | hotpaints - 2016-06-10 6:54 AM Bibliafarm - 2016-06-09 9:31 PM newracer - 2016-06-09 10:19 AM mruggles - 2016-06-09 8:57 AM This could happen with almost any horse...and seeing as how this one has only had 2 weeks on her its not suprising that she had a brain fart....and there are to many factors to say why she did it.....mM She was broke as a 2 year old, had 30 days, was ranch ridden winter of her 3 year old year, I put 45 rides on her myself before I sent her off to be started on the pattern, she was with this person for 2 weeks before she did this. Sorry I didn't add how much training she had had.
I think she would be a great investment for someone with softer training skills and patience.
my thinking as well.or maybe to much for her mentally to handle.. and or physically... some horses can also be sensitive and emotionally can not handle certain training styles.. she may require a very quiet hands and or quiet trainer.. |
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| I find this thread very sad on so many levels. I do understand your wanting to get rid of the horse due to your circumstances. We always have threads on BHW saying to dump a rearer ASAP, they are evil, you will get killed, blah blah blah.
Giving the ride time this horse has already had with no issues...something isn't right and that caused her to rear and flip. I agree that she could be sore or maybe the trainer screwed up. They tend to do that a lot.
Dump her in a sale or advertise her as a cowboy horse...that's not very good advise. May as well just haul her to the canner yourself if you go this route and save the mare being mistreated prior to her ending up there anyhow if the issue isn't addressed.
Sell her privately with full disclosure or sell her as a broodmare given her breeding and if she's conformationally correct.
Horses are large animals. If everyone unloaded a horse when it did something wrong...no one would ever own them. Young ones especially. They WILL put a foot out of place on occasion. Even the brokest, quietest horse out there can be set off.
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Location: Florida.. | SKM - 2016-06-11 9:29 AM I find this thread very sad on so many levels. I do understand your wanting to get rid of the horse due to your circumstances. We always have threads on BHW saying to dump a rearer ASAP, they are evil, you will get killed, blah blah blah. Giving the ride time this horse has already had with no issues...something isn't right and that caused her to rear and flip. I agree that she could be sore or maybe the trainer screwed up. They tend to do that a lot. Dump her in a sale or advertise her as a cowboy horse...that's not very good advise. May as well just haul her to the canner yourself if you go this route and save the mare being mistreated prior to her ending up there anyhow if the issue isn't addressed. Sell her privately with full disclosure or sell her as a broodmare given her breeding and if she's conformationally correct. Horses are large animals. If everyone unloaded a horse when it did something wrong...no one would ever own them. Young ones especially. They WILL put a foot out of place on occasion. Even the brokest, quietest horse out there can be set off. Agree.. I think there is another reason, I do not believe it is horses issue.. but i understand the posters fear..but its something that maybe you can have someone ELSE work with.. I dont feel its the horse from what you have posted..
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bibliafarm - 2016-06-11 8:47 AM SKM - 2016-06-11 9:29 AM I find this thread very sad on so many levels. I do understand your wanting to get rid of the horse due to your circumstances. We always have threads on BHW saying to dump a rearer ASAP, they are evil, you will get killed, blah blah blah. Giving the ride time this horse has already had with no issues...something isn't right and that caused her to rear and flip. I agree that she could be sore or maybe the trainer screwed up. They tend to do that a lot. Dump her in a sale or advertise her as a cowboy horse...that's not very good advise. May as well just haul her to the canner yourself if you go this route and save the mare being mistreated prior to her ending up there anyhow if the issue isn't addressed. Sell her privately with full disclosure or sell her as a broodmare given her breeding and if she's conformationally correct. Horses are large animals. If everyone unloaded a horse when it did something wrong...no one would ever own them. Young ones especially. They WILL put a foot out of place on occasion. Even the brokest, quietest horse out there can be set off. Agree.. I think there is another reason, I do not believe it is horses issue.. but i understand the posters fear..but its something that maybe you can have someone ELSE work with.. I dont feel its the horse from what you have posted..
I have to agree with both of you....a "one-time" incident does not tell me that the horse is "evil" but that there were mitigating factors (too heavy hands, too harsh bit, soreness, teeth, etc, etc). I understand the OP's fear but sending her off to a "sale" barn is premature. Try to find someone else to ride her or sell her privately with full disclosure. |
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Location: College Station, TX | I have a mare that did this a few times with a trainer I sent her to (that I trust 100%, have used in the past and used since) when she was 3. I had ridden her prior with no issues for 15 days and she has been ridden by multiple people since with no issues. Their styles didn't mesh. It happens. Not the trainers fault and not the mares fault.
I turned her out while I was pregnant (she was 4 at the time) and she was the first horse I got back on and I never even thought there was a need to put someone else on her first.
Some horses and people just don't click. No excuse for that behavior, but if you don't want to count her out completely then try someone else. Don't let it become a habit with someone that isn't meshing with her. |
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| NJJ - 2016-06-11 9:13 AM
Bibliafarm - 2016-06-11 8:47 AM SKM - 2016-06-11 9:29 AM I find this thread very sad on so many levels. I do understand your wanting to get rid of the horse due to your circumstances. We always have threads on BHW saying to dump a rearer ASAP, they are evil, you will get killed, blah blah blah. Giving the ride time this horse has already had with no issues...something isn't right and that caused her to rear and flip. I agree that she could be sore or maybe the trainer screwed up. They tend to do that a lot. Dump her in a sale or advertise her as a cowboy horse...that's not very good advise. May as well just haul her to the canner yourself if you go this route and save the mare being mistreated prior to her ending up there anyhow if the issue isn't addressed. Sell her privately with full disclosure or sell her as a broodmare given her breeding and if she's conformationally correct. Horses are large animals. If everyone unloaded a horse when it did something wrong...no one would ever own them. Young ones especially. They WILL put a foot out of place on occasion. Even the brokest, quietest horse out there can be set off. Agree.. I think there is another reason, I do not believe it is horses issue.. but i understand the posters fear..but its something that maybe you can have someone ELSE work with.. I dont feel its the horse from what you have posted..
Yes, very sad. Now that we have the technology to find problems, and the expertise to fix them, we know that horses do this because they're trying to tell you they're hurt.
I think back over the years and the horses we had that were 'arena sour', and just cringe after knowing what we know now. My daughter had this barrel and pole horse, nice horse. He refused at the gate, what did we do, spanked him because we thought he was bad. We competed on him until his late 20's, he lived to 36. I"m sure he had about a bazillion things wrong with him, but had a huge heart.
I can't wait to get to the rainbow bridge and apologize to everyone. |
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