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| I'm looking at a seven-year-old bugs alive granddaughter and I'm not sure if it's good investment from what I understand she was green broke purchase two years ago and she's been sitting for two years from what I understand she has bolted with this guy's grandkid she's going to need some good training and at 7 I'm not sure if it's worth the investment. She's appendix registered AQHA I've been looking for something already started on the pattern but she is priced below $1,000. Does anyone have any input that might help me make the decision please and thank you |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Is she anything besides just a BA in 75 granddaughter? Any other names on her papers? Other things drawing you to her like personality or conformation? |
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| Not really I will attach a picture of paper thank you for your response and all your help I really appreciate it as I'm against the clock here. TB and qh racers |
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| I couldn't attach it I guess it's too big she's out of bugs is alive and joyful pac |
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| I had a son of BA 75 and currently have 2 granddaughters. They all three are sensitive and like being around quiet people. The son has of course passed away, but man, he was such a cool dude. Very sensitive, never even thought about bucking, could not be rode down, wanted to please so bad it sometimes got in his way. Unless you are willing to put in the time and go slow, then you might want to pass no matter how inexpensive she is. |
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Location: Canada | If she's put together nicely, has a nice disposition and priced below $1000 I'm not sure what the issue is? The price is reflective of her level of training so if you're looking for a project the price is certainly right and worth the risk in my opinion.
If you're a green rider or only ever ridden finished/well broke horses this may be too much of a project for you to take on but only you will know that.
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| I did some investigating and found the Ranch where her Dam and sire stands I was able to at least gather little bit more information |
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| What is her registered name?
ETA: all horses are bad investments.
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Location: SE KS | Whiteboy - 2016-06-09 12:29 PM
What is her registered name?
ETA: all horses are bad investments.
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| A day to be alive. Reg name
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| Granddaughters of BA75 are hard to find, especially that young. Depending on what the rest of her papers look like, she'd be worth that as a broodmare. If you're looking at her to ride, I'd say consider your own ability. With one like her I'd plan to treat her like she's never been started. I'm talking about starting with ground work in the round pen and then progressing as slowly or as quickly as she needs. Put a good foundation on her. I would assume she bolted with the grandkids because of their lack of experience paired with her being green broke. If starting from scratch is something you can and want to do, the I say go for it! I just bought two 7 year olds that were track broke and ran until they were 3 and have been standing in a pasture since. I started over with them and am going slow. They had a good foundation and were a breeze to do all the ground work and get back to riding. If I were looking for something to haul soon, I wouldn't plan on them because they do need time. If you have time, I'd definitely be interested. |
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Location: SE KS | The bottom side of her pedigree is all locally owned stuff from around my area!! The top side is good too!!! I like her pedigree!!! Could just be her situation, but if she wasn't too expensive she would interest me!!!
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| I like the way she looks on paper. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bugs+is+alive |
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| I suppose it's her age that concerns me most |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Romeosmom - 2016-06-09 2:50 PM I suppose it's her age that concerns me most I like her papers too, are you going to do your own training or send her off to a trainer? I think it would be a better deal if you found something already going, with her your going to have to get a handle on her befor you start getting her ready for barrel training, and that can take some time. I think finding something already going would be easier on your pocket book.
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This link is to the sire's pedigree only!!
Here's the link to hers! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/a+day+to+be+alive
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| Under $1,000 what do you have to loose? Those are the deals I jump on!!!!!! Good training can fix anything. At age 7 it just means she is ready to hit the ground running. |
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Location: MD | Shoot! If you're going to pass on her, I will happily stand in line to go buy her if she is well put together! Starting the older ones can be a bit more difficult, but I wouldn't be too concerned. |
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| Thanks all for opinions and input!!! |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | I really like her pedigree. that pacific baily down there on the bottom is a nice bonus!
As for her age, that wouldn't bother me as long as you know she needs slow work and time and probably just exhibitioning ny the end of this year. Don't push her. I'd find the most reputable trainer that will accept her and you can afford and send her there for a month or two.
I have a mare who is 9 this year. She is out of a mare I ran as a kid. She was born at my parents when I still lived at home. I'd had big plans for her as Jr horse but she was always the youngest and with work, life, a wedding, moving (twice), health issues, family and other horses, she was always on the back burner. She was broke at age 2 and got ridden most every year, but nothing consistent. Last spring I sold my other mare so this one became my number 1. She got ridden pretty consistent but I knew I didn't have the time to get her going on the pattern so I sent her to Nathan Peoples last fall, as a broke but un-patterned 8YO. It didn't bother him one bit that she was so far behind for her age. WIthin a month he had her loping a beautiful barrel pattern and 3/4 loping the poles and he gave her a calmness and a brain that I'd never seen in her. Sending her to him was some of the best money I ever spent. He said when i picked her up that she was ready for more and ready to be pushed but he knew that I wasn't ready (I hadn't ran a set of barrels in 2 years at this point and was struggling with my confidence). By Thanksgiving, I finally loped her through a set from start to finish. And now I'm pregnant so she thinks she's retired again! I do think for her mentally, it's probably best she didn't get pushed young. I think she's the type that could end up hot and blown up if pushed to much to soon, especially if she'd been pushed as a Jr horse. So my advice, get the mare.
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| Yes I would buy her!!! For under $1000 you can always sell her as a brood mare if it doesn't workout. Really like her papers. Bugs Alive in 75, Azure Te, Rocket Wrangler, and Pacific Bailey are names of extremely nice studs that made a huge impact in the barrel racing industry. We wouldn't have some of the top name studs in the business today without these guys!
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| Well folks I went out there and she was certainly not what I expected or what I hope she would be. she was well loved by novice horse owners her nutrition was poor her pasture was poor. she's very small much smaller than I hoped. Just not what I hoped she would be. Tacked her up anyway... which I was told she hadnt been in nine months and even still the last time she was rode she was led around with a kid on her back. She's very green but no buck when confused she seems to be very willing just doesn't know anything. |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | If you still like her, it might be worth offering a little less. Sounds like your going to have to invest some money into her nutrition and health first and then her training. But with her pedigree, there is a good chance she's a diamond in the rough. |
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| Well she's in a stall here at home.i found previous owners phone number on old coggins. From what I understand this lady bought her at a small-town auction got her home and felt like she was too large for the horse at that time the horse was very green but a sweet sweet mare. She only kept her for a couple months and sold her. She said she didn't have a clue about what she was but she does recall her being so very fast. It was nice to have previous owner be so forthcoming and willing and and wanting to share. It's a mystery how she ended up at a small town auction and two owners that didn't have a clue what she was. I did hesitate but of course my fifteen-year-old daughter felts like she needed a chance so we loaded her up and brought her home she is certainly nothing to please the eye at this time we will work on that!!! |
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| I really expected her to be taller |
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| Glad to hear that you brought her home! I bet you'll be pleasantly surprised to see what she can blossom into with some good groceries, getting back in shape, and finishing out her training. Keep us updated, I am a huge fan of the BA75 bloodline. |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | make sure you do some before and after pics. I'd love to see her now but understand if you want to wait until she's in better health.
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| I wanted to give an update for those of you that asked. We are still working on getting the Mare physically healthy enough. She needs some work on her Top Line there's nothing we can do about her conformation. No matter what happens my daughter wanted to give her a shot and I support her all the way hopefully the pictures that I tried to attach here will post. When we get further along in her training I will certainly update |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Romeosmom - 2016-08-24 1:39 PM I wanted to give an update for those of you that asked. We are still working on getting the Mare physically healthy enough. She needs some work on her Top Line there's nothing we can do about her conformation. No matter what happens my daughter wanted to give her a shot and I support her all the way hopefully the pictures that I tried to attach here will post. When we get further along in her training I will certainly update
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Location: Williamsville, MO | I was in your same position a few months ago. 6 y/o gelding NOT BROKE, Streakin Six/Casady Casanova bred. Both parents 1D horses. Priced under the $1000 mark and I still hesitated because of his age and as a gelding would not work out as a broodmare lol. But he has really surprised me, i start all of my own horses and he has been very easy. He is more "mature" about things than my other 3 y/o filly i started at the same time. Other than that he has been no different to start and im very happy with my decision, i think he will be a good one. I felt very rushed to get him going since he had such a late start but he is right where he needs to be now with a couple months training, about ready to start on the pattern. Good Luck with your project :) |
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Seven-year-old bugs alive granddaughter input??