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| I have had several people ask if I would take out side horses but I really don't know what would be appropriate to charge. I have stalls and turn outs. I would want them to supply the feed for the horse. I would haul it if that was desired or just ride and tune at home. I was considering charging by the ride. I am a young person who has had horses sent to me and trained my own who have went on to be competitive. So here is the question- what would you charge/ being willing to pay for what is described above? | |
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| Alot of it depends on your personal record and where you live. I am one of the very few "horse" people in my area so I cant charge what they charge in the middle of Texas or I wont be riding any horses lol. But most people charge by the month. I have seen anywhere from $500-$800 or more a month but some people also include feed in their price. And a well know 1d rider, NFR qualifier, or futurity trainer will be on the high end obviously, where someone that just breaks or does tune ups will be on the lower end.
By what you described, I would say on the lower side since they will be having to supply their own feed, which I do as well-simply because I usually only keep the horses for a month or so and I dont want to change their diet back and forth. Also, it would depend on how many horses at one time you have. If you are planning for it to be a full time job and have multiple horses, you might want consider it is much easier to feed multiple horses one kind of feed. Hope that helps. | |
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| The going rate (in my area) is 20-25$ per ride and a daily charge for a stall. If they are bringing you all of the feed the stall feelmay not be necessary. Maybe just charge by the ride.
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| No it will not be a full time job; I do not consider myself a high end trainer. I was thinking more along the lines of the $300 range since they would provide the feed. I would just be getting started having horses in so of course I wouldn't be charging high dollar. | |
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| In your area, is there an extra charge to haul? | |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | I'm a teacher and enjoy riding a couple outside horses during the summer to fill my days. I never take more than two in a month, provide feed and unless I have open holes in my trailer, do not generally haul them. I charge $650CAN/month because it's more a hobby :) | |
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Location: Deep South | The established barrel racing trainers in my area that do this as a full time job charge 650-750/month and that includes feed/hay.
When I first started accepting outside horses, I was in pretty much the exact same position you're in. Young, had started several of my own, had a decent local reputation, but certainly no NFR qualifier or big time futurity trainer.
I charged $400 a month. That only included the rides I was putting on them. Owners provided everything the horse would need while they were in my care - feed/hay/farrier/exhibitions/etc.
I was only taking 2 at a time and after posting progress videos of the first few on my Facebook page I was booked 6+ months out.
Just know that if you are on the low end of the price range, you can expect to get mostly lower end clients, the horses aren't as nice, aren't as well cared for, the owners aren't as knowledgeable. But I feel like everyone has to pay their dues. Lol!
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| BamaCanChaser - 2016-06-22 2:16 PM
The established barrel racing trainers in my area that do this as a full time job charge 650-750/month and that includes feed/hay.
When I first started accepting outside horses, I was in pretty much the exact same position you're in. Young, had started several of my own, had a decent local reputation, but certainly no NFR qualifier or big time futurity trainer.
I charged $400 a month. That only included the rides I was putting on them. Owners provided everything the horse would need while they were in my care - feed/hay/farrier/exhibitions/etc.
I was only taking 2 at a time and after posting progress videos of the first few on my Facebook page I was booked 6+ months out.
Just know that if you are on the low end of the price range, you can expect to get mostly lower end clients, the horses aren't as nice, aren't as well cared for, the owners aren't as knowledgeable. But I feel like everyone has to pay their dues. Lol!
That was a good point! I just wanted to make sure I was not asking too much at the 3-400 range. How did you spread the word that you were taking horses? | |
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Location: West Texas | I know people do all kinds of different things, but if you are having people provide the feed, you can bet they wont bring enough and you will end up feeding them.....at least some people will do that to you. Plus there is the hassle of storing and feeding different things. I would charge a set rate and include a good feed program. There are other costs to you besides just riding and feed, labor to clean stall, materials, wear and tear on your equipment, etc. I know you may think you have all that stuff and doing that anyway, but trust me it will begin to add up later. Do not sell yourself short on the price if you feel you are worth it. Cheap trainers typically get less than desirable horses. You just have to make sure you can deliver with quality care and training....ultimately results worthy of your fee. You will be on the lower end to get started. I would charge $550-$650 and include feed. A good feed program for a performance horse should run you $125-150, so you would be making basically $400-$500. However remember, all of that is not profit for riding. You will have significant time feeding, cleaning, and caring for the horse and you will have equipment to buy, replace, or general wear and tear on your existing equipment, that will cost you money. On top of all that, you may from time to time have facilities to repair or mend, again time and money. Finally, don't forget the potential added expense of doctors appointments and injury treatment for yourself.
I can understand how you may think I am overdoing it here, but trust me, all of those will be a factor the longer you do this and the more horses you take. My wife has been training horses professionally for years now and she started about $600 and worked her way up to currently charging $800, and will probably be bumping that up by another $50 next year. Trust me, she works harder than most and earns pennies for doing so, even at the bigger prices that she is able to charge. Good Luck!
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| Tdove - 2016-06-22 2:59 PM
I know people do all kinds of different things, but if you are having people provide the feed, you can bet they wont bring enough and you will end up feeding them.....at least some people will do that to you. Plus there is the hassle of storing and feeding different things. I would charge a set rate and include a good feed program. There are other costs to you besides just riding and feed, labor to clean stall, materials, wear and tear on your equipment, etc. I know you may think you have all that stuff and doing that anyway, but trust me it will begin to add up later. Do not sell yourself short on the price if you feel you are worth it. Cheap trainers typically get less than desirable horses. You just have to make sure you can deliver with quality care and training....ultimately results worthy of your fee. You will be on the lower end to get started. I would charge $550-$650 and include feed. A good feed program for a performance horse should run you $125-150, so you would be making basically $400-$500. However remember, all of that is not profit for riding. You will have significant time feeding, cleaning, and caring for the horse and you will have equipment to buy, replace, or general wear and tear on your existing equipment, that will cost you money. On top of all that, you may from time to time have facilities to repair or mend, again time and money. Finally, don't forget the potential added expense of doctors appointments and injury treatment for yourself.
I can understand how you may think I am overdoing it here, but trust me, all of those will be a factor the longer you do this and the more horses you take. My wife has been training horses professionally for years now and she started about $600 and worked her way up to currently charging $800, and will probably be bumping that up by another $50 next year. Trust me, she works harder than most and earns pennies for doing so, even at the bigger prices that she is able to charge. Good Luck!
This is the insight I was hoping for. I do not think that was over done at all. I am thankful for the reply! | |
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What would you charge?