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caldwell saddle gullet measure
kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 12:15 PM
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Does anyone have a promax they would be willing to measure in front between the conchos? i bought a promax  while back and I think I was sold an ultra
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rodeomom3
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Posted 2016-06-23 12:41 PM
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 I was just looking at their website the other day and it saids it is  71/2 ".  My Caldwells are numbered, I bet you could call them and ask what your saddle is, I am assuming you bought it used. 
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 12:44 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2016-06-23 10:41 AM  I was just looking at their website the other day and it saids it is  71/2 ".  My Caldwells are numbered, I bet you could call them and ask what your saddle is, I am assuming you bought it used. 

No I bought it new but I think they might have mixed up the tree or stamped it wrong. i called her and she said that it is stamped a promax. I asked if I could show her measurements of both my proracer and the "promax" and see if she could tell if there is too much difference to be a promax. there is a whole inch difference in the measurements and she was not interested in a picture. said no way to tell

 
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Posted 2016-06-23 12:46 PM
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 Well that is not good, what does the "pro max" measure" ?  I would send her the pictures anyway. 
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 12:47 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2016-06-23 10:41 AM  I was just looking at their website the other day and it saids it is  71/2 ".  My Caldwells are numbered, I bet you could call them and ask what your saddle is, I am assuming you bought it used. 

if you have a promax could you measure between the conchos and post a pic?

 
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 12:49 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2016-06-23 10:46 AM  Well that is not good, what does the "pro max" measure" ?  I would send her the pictures anyway. 

she is not interested in pics wants me to send it to her. I spent over $ 6000 for it and matching tack. i never got to use it but never knew it might be wrong just knew it was huge
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-06-23 12:50 PM
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rodeomom3
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Posted 2016-06-23 12:50 PM
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 Sorry, mine are a maxed out and a rocket. 
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allaboutme2
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Posted 2016-06-23 12:51 PM
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kwanatha - 2016-06-23 10:15 AM Does anyone have a promax they would be willing to measure in front between the conchos? i bought a promax  while back and I think I was sold an ultra

I do.  I wont be able to measure it untul tomorrow so if you still need it, i will post it and pictures. 
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 12:53 PM
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kwanatha - 2016-06-23 10:47 AM
rodeomom3 - 2016-06-23 10:41 AM  I was just looking at their website the other day and it saids it is  71/2 ".  My Caldwells are numbered, I bet you could call them and ask what your saddle is, I am assuming you bought it used. 
if you have a promax could you measure between the conchos and post a pic?



 

also how is yours stamped?
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-06-23 12:53 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2016-06-23 1:50 PM  Sorry, mine are a maxed out and a rocket. 

Mine is an 8-1/2 I know.  However, I get the tree that the cutters use.  So mine may be different too.   
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 12:54 PM
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allaboutme2 - 2016-06-23 10:51 AM
kwanatha - 2016-06-23 10:15 AM Does anyone have a promax they would be willing to measure in front between the conchos? i bought a promax  while back and I think I was sold an ultra
I do.  I wont be able to measure it untul tomorrow so if you still need it, i will post it and pictures. 

Thanks I would aprreciate that. the more the better!
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 12:56 PM
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3canstorun - 2016-06-23 10:53 AM
rodeomom3 - 2016-06-23 1:50 PM  Sorry, mine are a maxed out and a rocket. 
Mine is an 8-1/2 I know.  However, I get the tree that the cutters use.  So mine may be different too.   

I don't understand... if it is a maxed out then wouldn't they all have the same tree as they are named by the tree?
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 12:57 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2016-06-23 10:50 AM  Sorry, mine are a maxed out and a rocket. 

Measurements and pictures of the front would still be helpful if it is not too much trouble
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 12:59 PM
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kwanatha - 2016-06-23 10:15 AM Does anyone have a promax they would be willing to measure in front between the conchos? i bought a promax  while back and I think I was sold an ultra

oops I meant I might have been sold the maxxed out
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 1:00 PM
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3canstorun - 2016-06-23 10:50 AM I will measure mine too.  But it will be tonight.     

Thank you very much I look forward to seeing the pics!
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 1:19 PM
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trying to post pics



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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-06-23 1:29 PM
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3canstorun - 2016-06-23 10:53 AM
rodeomom3 - 2016-06-23 1:50 PM  Sorry, mine are a maxed out and a rocket. 
Mine is an 8-1/2 I know.  However, I get the tree that the cutters use.  So mine may be different too.   
I don't understand... if it is a maxed out then wouldn't they all have the same tree as they are named by the tree?

I don't know - we already had one for the cutting horse, it fitted mine, so I ordered that one.  :)
 
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-06-23 2:05 PM
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 This is the one I had made, ultra rocket 

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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-06-23 2:08 PM
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 Bought this one used, a rocket 



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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 2:09 PM
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what about the maxxed out? every measurment I take and compare my proracer to the "promax" I get a 1 inch difference. i really am thinking I got a maxxed out sent to me
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-06-23 2:19 PM
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kwanatha - 2016-06-23 2:09 PM what about the maxxed out? every measurment I take and compare my proracer to the "promax" I get a 1 inch difference. i really am thinking I got a maxxed out sent to me

 The ultra rocket and maxed out have the same 8" gullet.  I don't know what the difference is between the two.   I hate that happened to you, I love my Caldwells 
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-06-23 2:23 PM
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kwanatha - 2016-06-23 3:09 PM what about the maxxed out? every measurment I take and compare my proracer to the "promax" I get a 1 inch difference. i really am thinking I got a maxxed out sent to me

So your problem is - the tree is too big?   
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 2:30 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2016-06-23 12:19 PM
kwanatha - 2016-06-23 2:09 PM what about the maxxed out? every measurment I take and compare my proracer to the "promax" I get a 1 inch difference. i really am thinking I got a maxxed out sent to me
 The ultra rocket and maxed out have the same 8" gullet.  I don't know what the difference is between the two.   I hate that happened to you, I love my Caldwells 

It might help if i had pics of front with tape of someone's Promax, and someone's maxxed out along with mine she might have to take a look then. It would help those sending pics if they could take a pic with tape way up where it meets the swell, then another mddle of conchos
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 2:33 PM
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3canstorun - 2016-06-23 12:23 PM
kwanatha - 2016-06-23 3:09 PM what about the maxxed out? every measurment I take and compare my proracer to the "promax" I get a 1 inch difference. i really am thinking I got a maxxed out sent to me
So your problem is - the tree is too big?   

yes i had a gelding i was running that the proracer fit him but was a tad tight. the shape of the tree was good  so i thought getting a promax would be perfect. but he was swimming in it. he is retired now and pretty fat so maybe i will go put it on him again just to see if it fits now. he is 15 hands and used to be middle of the road in size as i kept him racehorse fit but now he is a fatty. if it doesn't fit him now then I don't see how it is a promax
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kickincans
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Posted 2016-06-23 2:58 PM
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I have a promax the gullet measures 6 1/2
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 2:59 PM
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kickincans - 2016-06-23 12:58 PM I have a promax the gullet measures 6 1/2

could you show pics of the front?
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Posted 2016-06-23 3:16 PM
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Sure tell me how to add a pic to this
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-06-23 3:23 PM
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kwanatha - 2016-06-23 2:33 PM
3canstorun - 2016-06-23 12:23 PM
kwanatha - 2016-06-23 3:09 PM what about the maxxed out? every measurment I take and compare my proracer to the "promax" I get a 1 inch difference. i really am thinking I got a maxxed out sent to me
So your problem is - the tree is too big?   
yes i had a gelding i was running that the proracer fit him but was a tad tight. the shape of the tree was good  so i thought getting a promax would be perfect. but he was swimming in it. he is retired now and pretty fat so maybe i will go put it on him again just to see if it fits now. he is 15 hands and used to be middle of the road in size as i kept him racehorse fit but now he is a fatty. if it doesn't fit him now then I don't see how it is a promax

Comparing your pic to mine of my ultra/maxed out, mine is easily 8" and that is just from inside of the gullet on the fleece.  I think yours does look like a 
7" gullet.
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 3:31 PM
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kwanatha - 2016-06-23 2:33 PM
3canstorun - 2016-06-23 12:23 PM
kwanatha - 2016-06-23 3:09 PM what about the maxxed out? every measurment I take and compare my proracer to the "promax" I get a 1 inch difference. i really am thinking I got a maxxed out sent to me
So your problem is - the tree is too big?   
yes i had a gelding i was running that the proracer fit him but was a tad tight. the shape of the tree was good  so i thought getting a promax would be perfect. but he was swimming in it. he is retired now and pretty fat so maybe i will go put it on him again just to see if it fits now. he is 15 hands and used to be middle of the road in size as i kept him racehorse fit but now he is a fatty. if it doesn't fit him now then I don't see how it is a promax
Comparing your pic to mine of my ultra/maxed out, mine is easily 8" and that is just from inside of the gullet on the fleece.  I think yours does look like a 

7" gullet.

Thanks maybe it is right. 
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 3:33 PM
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kwanatha - 2016-06-23 2:33 PM
3canstorun - 2016-06-23 12:23 PM
kwanatha - 2016-06-23 3:09 PM what about the maxxed out? every measurment I take and compare my proracer to the "promax" I get a 1 inch difference. i really am thinking I got a maxxed out sent to me
So your problem is - the tree is too big?   
yes i had a gelding i was running that the proracer fit him but was a tad tight. the shape of the tree was good  so i thought getting a promax would be perfect. but he was swimming in it. he is retired now and pretty fat so maybe i will go put it on him again just to see if it fits now. he is 15 hands and used to be middle of the road in size as i kept him racehorse fit but now he is a fatty. if it doesn't fit him now then I don't see how it is a promax
Comparing your pic to mine of my ultra/maxed out, mine is easily 8" and that is just from inside of the gullet on the fleece.  I think yours does look like a 

7" gullet.

where are you measuring from. when i measure from middle conchos I get 7 in on the proracer and 8 inches on the "promax"
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 3:33 PM
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kwanatha - 2016-06-23 2:33 PM
3canstorun - 2016-06-23 12:23 PM
kwanatha - 2016-06-23 3:09 PM what about the maxxed out? every measurment I take and compare my proracer to the "promax" I get a 1 inch difference. i really am thinking I got a maxxed out sent to me
So your problem is - the tree is too big?   
yes i had a gelding i was running that the proracer fit him but was a tad tight. the shape of the tree was good  so i thought getting a promax would be perfect. but he was swimming in it. he is retired now and pretty fat so maybe i will go put it on him again just to see if it fits now. he is 15 hands and used to be middle of the road in size as i kept him racehorse fit but now he is a fatty. if it doesn't fit him now then I don't see how it is a promax
Comparing your pic to mine of my ultra/maxed out, mine is easily 8" and that is just from inside of the gullet on the fleece.  I think yours does look like a 

7" gullet.
where are you measuring from. when i measure from middle conchos I get 7 in on the proracer and 8 inches on the "promax"

i am measuring fleece to fleece no leather included just the space
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I have a maxxed out I will go measure it. I will take a picture of it and text it to you. Can you pm me your cell number and I will send it. What number is stamped on your saddle? the 5300 is a promax, 9053 is a maxxed out.
 
The pro racers are 7" gullet..... promax is 7 1/2" Gullet... maxxed out is a 8" gullet.  
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 6:24 PM
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Lookin For Diamonds - 2016-06-23 4:21 PM I have a maxxed out I will go measure it. I will take a picture of it and text it to you. Can you pm me your cell number and I will send it. What number is stamped on your saddle? the 5300 is a promax, 9053 is a maxxed out.

 

The pro racers are 7" gullet..... promax is 7 1/2" Gullet... maxxed out is a 8" gullet.  

it is stampeed 53 so promax but i think it is possible it has the wrong stamp
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-23 7:49 PM
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thanks everyone. I tried it on my new horse again and it fits better than it did when he first got here so I just might keep it the way it is. i think I will ride it for a month then if needed send it back for a new tree.

 
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Posted 2016-06-24 12:13 AM
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I have always thought a ProMax "seemed" more than 1/2" wider than a Pro Racer as well. I've also felt the same on the twist trees from a TG to a Rocket. It seems like more of a jump than 1/2" but, I've never taken the time to measure honestly. The mid size trees of both lines have fit everything I've owned for 10 years now. I love them! I have NO idea how I made the TG and Pro Racer work on anything back in the day when that's the only ones we had to choose from. They seem so narrow to me now, LOL! I had a pad modified with cut outs on a big horse I ran in a Pro Racer. It worked :) I can measure my ProMax and take photos if you need more to compare.
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-24 4:21 AM
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barrelracinbroke - 2016-06-23 10:13 PM

I have always thought a ProMax "seemed" more than 1/2" wider than a Pro Racer as well. I've also felt the same on the twist trees from a TG to a Rocket. It seems like more of a jump than 1/2" but, I've never taken the time to measure honestly. The mid size trees of both lines have fit everything I've owned for 10 years now. I love them! I have NO idea how I made the TG and Pro Racer work on anything back in the day when that's the only ones we had to choose from. They seem so narrow to me now, LOL! I had a pad modified with cut outs on a big horse I ran in a Pro Racer. It worked :) I can measure my ProMax and take photos if you need more to compare.

That would be great thank you.
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