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Location: Riding Crackhead. | WTH? Hopefully some of the MN girls see this and have some info on this. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Hillbilly rodeo committee |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | No helmets in any event, now thats the dumbest thing I have ever read, all the little kids that I knew of wore a helment in mutton bustin. |
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| Lol, how would they feel if helmets were required?? Just let folks decide for themselves. I know a few gals who have sustained serious head injuries and now require a helmet to protect from further damage. A helmet is not about skill level. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Very true  , but in all the Mutton Bustin events for the little ones always had required a helmet for the childs safety, I know all the rodeo's that whole MB's that I watched did require helmets. Maybe not all places do thou  |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I grew up riding hunter jumper so wearing a helmet is not foreign to me. When I started running barrels I wore a helmet but as I got more confident I quit wearing it. After some recent local tragic events I decided to start wearing mine again, it is my choice and I know I could just as easily break my neck with it on but at this point in my mid 30s with a boyfriend who has a 3 year old toddler that needs me right now I'd rather be As safe as I am.
I think that's ignorant if you ask me and I think they will loose business with that kind of attitude. If it was a big rodeo event I would understand but we can even wear them at the NFR so why try to spread that negativity about safety? |
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| Then they should say ... barrel racers can't use rubber bands to help keep their feet in the stirrups. No shin guards ... Ropers can't use powder. Team Ropers can't use bands on the horn and roughies can't use rosin. While they are at it ... no fancy bling .. not needed. |
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Location: Northwest | Here is the same rodeo and it doesn't say anything about helmets. Maybe that first one is a hoax? Or someone being stupid but not the rodeo committee itself?
I can't get the picture to upload but if you Facebook that rodeo you'll see the post. No mention at all about helmets.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Here's the entry information on THEIR FB page.........There is NO sentence regarding helmets......
North Star Stampede. July 29-30-31. Fri 5pm, Sat-Sun 2pm
3 Day pass is required to be in Campground.Or Contestant
Entries Open July 18th, 7am-3pm. 218-743-6463
EF $60. SB,BB,BR,CBR,SW,Dally CR,TR(each),Rookie BR.
EF $20 Novice BB, SB....
EF $10 Mutton Bustin. (Limited entries.)
BB,SB,BR,and SW may enter each day.
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$100 bonus each day for high score in BB,SB, and BR
Additional Bull Riding Bonus. 1st $800. 2nd $500. 3rd $200
Rough Stock and Timed Event All Around Saddles.
Trophy Buckles in each event.
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Location: Phoenix | Idiot. Mutton busting? Bull riding? Close minded fool. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Wow , I wonder if someone is trying to screw up this event by being a ahole saying that helmets are not allowed, someone must really hate the people putting on this event. 
Editing cause I was quoting Norma's post I thought, lol.
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-24 6:26 PM
No helmets in any event, now thats the dumbest thing I have ever read, all the little kids that I knew of wore a helment in mutton bustin.
Bull riding and no helmet???? Oh my heavens these folks amaze me. And the way it's put-"if you need a helmet don't enter"??? Hateful sounding |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-24 6:45 PM
Wow , I wonder if someone is trying to screw up this event by being a ahole saying that helmets are not allowed, someone must really hate the people putting on this event. Editing cause I was quoting Norma's post I thought, lol.
Yeah I thought that was really interesting! At first I didn't think it was right to say that helmets weren't allowed, not just because of barrel racers but the roughstock people and mutton bustin kids too, but since I don't exactly see it maybe it was a hoax to see who was paying attention? |
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It's not meant to be disrespectful at all! I copied the post from the North Star Stampede page! This is an old time rodeo, going on 61 years. They are old style rodeo as well, and they are keeping it that way because Howard dedicated his life to having the ranch and rodeo! It's understandable absolutely that freak accidents happen! Anytime you get on a ton or 2 ton animal this might not go the way you plan! We aren't discouraging people from wearing helmets a lot of rodeos you can and some you can't. They are simply saying if you need a helmet for any event don't enter cause if you travel far or pay your entry then find out you can't wear a helmet then your out all that! A rodeo last week 3 kids wearing helmets got knocked out riding bulls and a helmet split one of kids neck open. Two kids not wearing helmets that collided with the Bulls were fine. It doesn't always happen that way though. But thank you for your concern and again it was not meant to be disrespectful |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-24 4:17 PM
Hillbilly rodeo committee
Agreed. And judging by the added money, they are a small, low budget operation. In this day and age, decisions like this will turn away contestants. Not a smart business move. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | SKM - 2016-06-25 8:47 AM Here is her comment: It's not meant to be disrespectful at all! I copied the post from the North Star Stampede page! This is an old time rodeo, going on 61 years. They are old style rodeo as well, and they are keeping it that way because Howard dedicated his life to having the ranch and rodeo! It's understandable absolutely that freak accidents happen! Anytime you get on a ton or 2 ton animal this might not go the way you plan! We aren't discouraging people from wearing helmets a lot of rodeos you can and some you can't. They are simply saying if you need a helmet for any event don't enter cause if you travel far or pay your entry then find out you can't wear a helmet then your out all that! A rodeo last week 3 kids wearing helmets got knocked out riding bulls and a helmet split one of kids neck open. Two kids not wearing helmets that collided with the Bulls were fine. It doesn't always happen that way though. But thank you for your concern and again it was not meant to be disrespectful
My comment back would be: please sign this waver:
Your association will be responsible for all of my medical and rehab. care for life should I be injured while competing in your event under your no helmet rule. Please know that your responsibility includes paying for my 6 figure income that my family depends upon so that we can continue to ranch and rodeo as we enjoy. The addition of Pain and suffering in TBI usually runs $800-1500 per day as well.
If I should suffer an injury due to your rule I would hope that the punitive damages dropped on the association will encourge you to not have such a rule that would put others endanger of riding without a helmet if they so choose.
I live and work on a ranch. I'm two hours from a hospital that can take care of a TBI. I've picked up plenty via helicopter in my area and the bill alone for the flight would spin most peoples income into chaos.
I understand western I truly do. I used to ride bulls, I've ridden race horses, I've trained race horses I love the country life. But when precautions can be taken to limit my disability by God I take them! |
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| Simple, Don't go. Geeze people it's not a law we are FORCED to obey or face punishment, it's a rule for an event that's a PRIVILEGE!
Quite frankly, I'm TIRED of this debate over helmets. So many things wrong with the "real" world that nobody cares to speak up about but choose to engage in online battles over something that is a LUXURY AND PRIVILEGE not afforded to all and something WE HAVE A CHOICE IN. SMH |
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Location: wolverton,mn | This is not a hoax. The barrel race pays out fantastic,as do the other events.
around 15-16 years ago,when helmets and vests started making the their way into the arena ,Howard pitzen wrote and sent everyone a letter. The letter let everyone know what he considered a " real,old time rodeo",he let everyone know that there will be NO SAFETY EQUIPMENT of any kind,including shin guards for barrel racers. He stated no caps or tennis shoes should be seen around his ranch.
The rodeo is pretty big every year and is a huge draw for camping,reunions and rodeo. It's his rodeo and now that he's deceased,the rodeo continues with his rules,for the most part.
like it or not,this is true and has been since the beginning of the rodeo.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I posted this before......but here you go again....THIS is on THEIR FB page.....the sentence about helmets is NOT there......
North Star Stampede. July 29-30-31. Fri 5pm, Sat-Sun 2pm
3 Day pass is required to be in Campground.Or Contestant
Entries Open July 18th, 7am-3pm. 218-743-6463
EF $60. SB,BB,BR,CBR,SW,Dally CR,TR(each),Rookie BR.
EF $20 Novice BB, SB....
EF $10 Mutton Bustin. (Limited entries.)
BB,SB,BR,and SW may enter each day.
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$100 bonus each day for high score in BB,SB, and BR
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Rough Stock and Timed Event All Around Saddles.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | The post and explanation was on there, if they specified why they have the no helmet rule then maybe people would feel better about it I.e. - those are the deceased mans wishes and that's how it's always been run, but to say "if you need a helmet, don't enter" I think that's pretty rude. My best friend who is a top notch competitor in Alabama was on blood thinners for a blood clot and "needed" a helmet or no riding for her and believe me she can kick some butt and take some names
Either way, whether you're the most talented barrel racer, bull rider, mutton buster or just a beginner, times have changed and people are more aware of the injuries they can sustain participating in these events, so I believe many are "wising up".
Yes, it's a choice and I wouldn't push Anyone to wear or not wear one as its ones individual choice.
And to the other comment on why the helmet debate is such a big discussion right now and why aren't we focused on more important life issues at the moment; it's a barrel racing forum, free to discuss whatever we desire but in the end, it's about barrel racing, and this has been a hot topic lately.
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| If this is true that NO safety equipment is aloud. I would love to know WHAT insurance company this rodeo has. Because they better get ready to payoff on a HUGE lawsuit just a matter of time. I don't care what the original producer wanted the liability here is unbelievable. |
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| Funny how safety vests are now mandatory in most associations. Those aren't allowed at this rodeo. Do they get many in the bull riding with this no safety equipment rule? I can't imagine many bull riders wanting to climb on without a vest. Or at least those that have been doing it for awhile. |
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| I used to run a rodeo series that would not let you run in a performance with a helmet. The contractor said you had to wear something with a brim. We used to cut the brims off of hats and glue them to helmets! very redneck!
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I don't believe this is accurate. I wouldn't be surprised to learn it's a prank. |
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Location: SE Missouri | What's wrong with just not entering that rodeo?
If I wore a helmet (and I have NOTHING against it and have been considering getting one) I just wouldn't enter.. IF the story is true about the founder it Sounds like he was an old school kinda guy and wanted to keep the old time look to it. If they lose competitors then I figure they will revisit the tradition.
I just don't understand why it's anyone else's business what rules they have. Don't like them, don't go.. I do think it could have been communicated completely different and got the point across.
I'm hot and tired and probably just just stick to reading comments ??.
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Location: sunny california | well what is good for the goose.... if it is to held with old timey standards then what the H3!! are they advedrtising on facebook for? pretty sure it was not around 61 yrs ago. maybe they should just put an ad in the newspaper...just sayin |
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Location: floating down a river | I am more curious to know what insurance policy they carry and what their premium is. |
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Location: Florida.. | Norma posted the real one... thinking that one was a hoax |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Bibliafarm - 2016-06-26 7:52 AM Norma posted the real one... thinking that one was a hoax
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| hotbear03 - 2016-06-25 11:22 AM
This is not a hoax. The barrel race pays out fantastic,as do the other events.
around 15-16 years ago,when helmets and vests started making the their way into the arena ,Howard pitzen wrote and sent everyone a letter. The letter let everyone know what he considered a " real,old time rodeo",he let everyone know that there will be NO SAFETY EQUIPMENT of any kind,including shin guards for barrel racers. He stated no caps or tennis shoes should be seen around his ranch.
The rodeo is pretty big every year and is a huge draw for camping,reunions and rodeo. It's his rodeo and now that he's deceased,the rodeo continues with his rules,for the most part.
like it or not,this is true and has been since the beginning of the rodeo.
Sounds like hotbear03 has experience with this particular rodeo. I'd trust her account to be more accurate than something pulled off the internet by someone that's never been to it.
Yes, I will use my "American freedom and not enter it". I will also use my freedom of speech to voice the opinion that no safety equipment allowed is a stupid rule. |
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Location: wolverton,mn | The post I wrote is a FACT. I still have the letter he wrote to my ex husband,found it in a drawer a few weeks ago.
It is a very OLD TIME RODEO!
If someone believes what I posted to be untrue,go ahead and call the entry number and ask!
The rules of their rodeo are clear upon entry. Most everyone up this way knows this. The steers are huge,mammoth,lol!
Howard Pitzen also wrote a book,google it. His sons are stock contractors in Mn.
The rodeo has been this way for decades! I ran there years ago,the barrel race pays out like a slot machine,it's great!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | SKM - 2016-06-26 8:24 AM hotbear03 - 2016-06-25 11:22 AM This is not a hoax. The barrel race pays out fantastic,as do the other events.
around 15-16 years ago,when helmets and vests started making the their way into the arena ,Howard pitzen wrote and sent everyone a letter. The letter let everyone know what he considered a " real,old time rodeo",he let everyone know that there will be NO SAFETY EQUIPMENT of any kind,including shin guards for barrel racers. He stated no caps or tennis shoes should be seen around his ranch.
The rodeo is pretty big every year and is a huge draw for camping,reunions and rodeo. It's his rodeo and now that he's deceased,the rodeo continues with his rules,for the most part.
like it or not,this is true and has been since the beginning of the rodeo.
Sounds like hotbear03 has experience with this particular rodeo. I'd trust her account to be more accurate than something pulled off the internet by someone that's never been to it. Yes, I will use my "American freedom and not enter it". I will also use my freedom of speech to voice the opinion that no safety equipment allowed is a stupid rule.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/124064723760/
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Location: wolverton,mn | We were there year before last. Garrett's friend was there last year.
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Location: Nebraska | NJJ - 2016-06-26 10:06 AM SKM - 2016-06-26 8:24 AM hotbear03 - 2016-06-25 11:22 AM This is not a hoax. The barrel race pays out fantastic,as do the other events.
around 15-16 years ago,when helmets and vests started making the their way into the arena ,Howard pitzen wrote and sent everyone a letter. The letter let everyone know what he considered a " real,old time rodeo",he let everyone know that there will be NO SAFETY EQUIPMENT of any kind,including shin guards for barrel racers. He stated no caps or tennis shoes should be seen around his ranch.
The rodeo is pretty big every year and is a huge draw for camping,reunions and rodeo. It's his rodeo and now that he's deceased,the rodeo continues with his rules,for the most part.
like it or not,this is true and has been since the beginning of the rodeo.
Sounds like hotbear03 has experience with this particular rodeo. I'd trust her account to be more accurate than something pulled off the internet by someone that's never been to it. Yes, I will use my "American freedom and not enter it". I will also use my freedom of speech to voice the opinion that no safety equipment allowed is a stupid rule.
Why don't you just comment or message that person on fb and ask? It could be that they assume most people in the area that see it already know the rules.... |
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| I just went through the pictures from 2015. The rough stock riders did have on safety vests. However there are no helmets in any event including the mutton bustin. Only one mutton buster had on a vest and he was the only one to ride one handed with a rope.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-06-26 10:06 AM SKM - 2016-06-26 8:24 AM hotbear03 - 2016-06-25 11:22 AM This is not a hoax. The barrel race pays out fantastic,as do the other events.
around 15-16 years ago,when helmets and vests started making the their way into the arena ,Howard pitzen wrote and sent everyone a letter. The letter let everyone know what he considered a " real,old time rodeo",he let everyone know that there will be NO SAFETY EQUIPMENT of any kind,including shin guards for barrel racers. He stated no caps or tennis shoes should be seen around his ranch.
The rodeo is pretty big every year and is a huge draw for camping,reunions and rodeo. It's his rodeo and now that he's deceased,the rodeo continues with his rules,for the most part.
like it or not,this is true and has been since the beginning of the rodeo.
Sounds like hotbear03 has experience with this particular rodeo. I'd trust her account to be more accurate than something pulled off the internet by someone that's never been to it. Yes, I will use my "American freedom and not enter it". I will also use my freedom of speech to voice the opinion that no safety equipment allowed is a stupid rule.
The information that Norma just posted here and the link to the North Star Stampede Facebook should be enought information for everyone to see that this is the real deal. Norma is called the Fact Checker for a reason, she checks befor she does any posting on something like this  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Amazing how this thread has caused such a ruckus. The cliche' "it is what it is" fits perfectly. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | The owners wife may have posted a legitimate ad about the rodeo but anyone who is a part of it can post it anywhere on the Facebook groups, which in this case they probably just worded it different or said it that way since wearing helmets is such a fad now.
Fallon Taylor even shared this post a few days ago after one of my Facebook friends posted it (that's where I found it)
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RnRJack - 2016-06-26 2:41 PM The owners wife may have posted a legitimate ad about the rodeo but anyone who is a part of it can post it anywhere on the Facebook groups, which in this case they probably just worded it different or said it that way since wearing helmets is such a fad now. Fallon Taylor even shared this post a few days ago after one of my Facebook friends posted it (that's where I found it) I was just curious to know what everyone thought....and now I know
Yep I think most of us are pretty passionate about safety for others, we just want everyone to be safe and feel safe in what they are doing. Bad things happen and if the worst can be preventive with the safety of helmets, vests then its all good  |
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Location: north dakota | This article is a year old but it mentions no helmets
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Location: North Dakota | My friends and I will be running at this rodeo. If I chose/needed a helmet, I simply wouldn't enter. I'm not going to sit at my computer and complain about something outside my control. The rules set forth by the committee are their own choices for whatever reason. If you don't like it, don't enter. No one is forcing anyone to run without a helmet. Contestants know prior to entering what the rules are.
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Location: N Texas | shakeit0410 - 2016-06-27 9:32 AM
My friends and I will be running at this rodeo. If I chose/needed a helmet, I simply wouldn't enter. I'm not going to sit at my computer and complain about something outside my control. The rules set forth by the committee are their own choices for whatever reason. If you don't like it, don't enter. No one is forcing anyone to run without a helmet. Contestants know prior to entering what the rules are.
Yep. If you put on an event, you can make up any rules you want. If people don't like it, then those people shouldn't enter. Obviously enough people are ok with the rules because they're still putting on this event. When participation starts to decline, then they'll have to reassess.
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| shakeit0410 - 2016-06-27 9:32 AM
My friends and I will be running at this rodeo. If I chose/needed a helmet, I simply wouldn't enter. I'm not going to sit at my computer and complain about something outside my control. The rules set forth by the committee are their own choices for whatever reason. If you don't like it, don't enter. No one is forcing anyone to run without a helmet. Contestants know prior to entering what the rules are.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I wasn't offended by the rules, in fact if it had enough added money i personally would still enter. I just think its a silly rule and should have been worded differently. I thought this would be a good topic of dissucusion since the helmet fad is so popular right now.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Deb - 2016-07-22 1:49 PM Bumping for Roxie so she can post some pics.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Deb - 2016-07-22 2:00 PM Thanks Roxie. Did you get the last picture with the flyer for this year? This is all that I got, on the poster I could see the No Helmets in any event in my email, but the print is really small in this thread, hight light the area its in. I tryed to make it larger, but it wont let me post it any bigger'
This is as good as I can get it....LOL.
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Location: wolverton,mn | The rules are printed in bold in the letter we got mailed to us. It's on our fridge,hanging in the kitchen.
Its a huge reminder no safety equipment!
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| hotbear03 - 2016-07-22 7:36 PM
The rules are printed in bold in the letter we got mailed to us. It's on our fridge,hanging in the kitchen.
Its a huge reminder no safety equipment!
I'm just too dumb to know how to post it on here to show you I was accurate. Maybe the " fact checker" could help me figure that out.
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | I have to wonder how this producer managed to purchase insurance coverage for the event -- and if the arena owner is 'ok' with this -- as they, too, would be liable. Just stupid. |
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I think the answer to your question is that someone was very surprised that you wouldn't be allowed to wear a helmet at a rodeo. It's one thing not to require a helmet and quite another to ban their use. As the thread continued, it turned into a conversation of: If you don't like it, don't enter it. etc. etc.
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | runs4fun - 2016-07-23 9:12 AM
I haven't read all the posts and just remember this thread from a while back.
I think the answer to your question is that someone was very surprised that you wouldn't be allowed to wear a helmet at a rodeo. It's one thing not to require a helmet and quite another to ban their use. As the thread continued, it turned into a conversation of: If you don't like it, don't enter it. etc. etc.
Who cares? You don't have to enter. You don't have to try out for the varsity football team either. You can take dance lessons, chase Pokemon, or play powder puff football. Next thing we'll see is people clamoring for boxers to wear headgear. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | Bear - 2016-07-23 8:54 AM
What's the purpose of this thread?
The purpose was to see what people thought since helmets are such a fad now, and if it would indeed deter people from entering. |
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One Grateful Mom
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Location: wolverton,mn | Like I said,the events are all filled all 3 days. The barrel race pays out about 1,900 to win. The rough stock events pay out well too. So no,the entries are just as many and more than they have been for the decades it's been held.
It is a barrel race and rodeo that a lot of people JUST DO NOT MISS.
It is rodeo alumni haven and a huge camp out party for all ages
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | I think it's no different than the shows that REQUIRE a helmet. It's a personal choice and if a show wants to place this stipulation on their show...it's their show. If that's a problem, don't run there.
We didn't run events where helmets were required (many years ago) so I still see it as no one is holding a gun to someones head and saying YOU HAVE TO RUN AT THIS SHOW. Pick and chose people, pick and chose.
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | jbhoot - 2016-06-25 3:42 PM If this is true that NO safety equipment is aloud. I would love to know WHAT insurance company this rodeo has. Because they better get ready to payoff on a HUGE lawsuit just a matter of time. I don't care what the original producer wanted the liability here is unbelievable.
If the rule is stated in the RULES and signed off, I don't see how they could possibly have a law suit. Not to get into a helmet debate, but they do not guarantee safety. Any event is a choice, any event can and will have freak accidents...we make that choice every time we put a foot in the stirrup.
If this were the case, every insurance company would REQUIRE helmets, and vests, and knee pads etc. . . . .
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| Swannranch - 2016-07-26 10:46 AM
jbhoot - 2016-06-25 3:42 PM If this is true that NO safety equipment is aloud. I would love to know WHAT insurance company this rodeo has. Because they better get ready to payoff on a HUGE lawsuit just a matter of time. I don't care what the original producer wanted the liability here is unbelievable.
If the rule is stated in the RULES and signed off, I don't see how they could possibly have a law suit. Not to get into a helmet debate, but they do not guarantee safety. Any event is a choice, any event can and will have freak accidents...we make that choice every time we put a foot in the stirrup.
If this were the case, every insurance company would REQUIRE helmets, and vests, and knee pads etc. . . . .
Maybe Minnesota is a "Assumption of Risk" state. Meaning, by entering a rodeo that has a "no safety equipment rule" you are assuming that you may get hurt. Of all the crazy stupid laws California has, we are an "Assumption of Risk" state which means producers don't have to carry a huge insurance policy to cover the contestants. Contestants can still sue but they probably aren't getting anything if negligence can't be faulted on the producers and facility owners.
When we had our bucking horses are biggest insurance cost was not for the contestants but for the spectators in case an animal was to escape and run through a crowd.
I do think their no safety equipment is dumb and antiquated but that sure wouldn't stop me from entering the barrels if I lived there. |
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| That rodeo advertisement was the stupidest thing I have ever seen! Talk about opening yourself up to a lawsuit. They are telling people that they cannot protect themselves. That's crazy and obviously the people in charge are total morons! And I never wore a helmet for 30 plus yrs of riding until my 12 yr. old daughter asked me when she could take hers off. That was 9 yrs ago and I have been wearing one ever since. Teach by example. Not what is cool and acceptable. I could care less what anyone thinks of me except my family.
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