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Location: midwest mama | I have a barrel horse that I trained from day one. He is pretty finished and has turned out super nice........but now he wants to make runs that are WAY faster than I can ride. :)
I'm contemplating selling him because he is ready to go on and win at the big ones, and quite frankly he's pretty scary for me to run. Not that he does anything bad, but he is a rocket and I'm just not comfortable running that hard and fast anymore. I feel guilty holding him back.
Anyone else ever have this happen? Sheesh! I'm feeling pretty inadequate right about now.
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Location: Warsaw,NY | I have a horse right now that I bought, didnt train, but holy moly powerful and fast!!! so powerful at the NBHA supershow when he turned his 2nd he threw my entire body out of saddle and onto his neck. i rode him home w/arms and legs wrapped around his neck. He is so much fun to ride and it has taken me awhile to not be afraid of that power and speed. we are getting there but slowly. It def takes time. I used to run him holding him up cuz i could not keep with him and slowly let him go faster and faster. |
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| Is this the same one that you sent to the dressage trainer? All my horses are better than me and I like it that way-I just keep my hand in the middle and stay out of their way. I don't feel bad or guilty not running them in the 1D like my girls did.
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Location: North Dakota | I'm in a little different boat but..I have a 15 y/o cowbred mare that I bought and used for team penning and sorting for a year before deciding I wanted to go back to barrels. I just started letting her have some fun on barrels and poles at a few open shows in town and she seemed to enjoy them. I decdied to start back with jackpots this past winter and have been going as ofen as I can all spring. With limited time, no real formal training or patterning and she is ahead of me already! My older gelding that I had growing up was mostly a 4D horse, maybe into placings in the 3D on a good day.. so that is what I am used to. I'm not sure if I can ever get out of my funk of being a 4D rider but my current mare definatly is outshinning me right now even though at one point I was ahead of her.. . I am taking some lessons and I am bound and determined to get myself better so I don't keep hindering her. She deserves to shine at her full potential.. whatever that may be. I can see how age can play a roll not wanting to go that fast anymore for you... If he really has that want and the potential. Might be best for him to find him a home where he can work to his full potential. Even if that his keeping him with you and leasing him out?? Could be a difficult decision. I wish you luck with whatever you decide. 
Edited by MidWest1452 2016-07-12 8:40 AM
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| I sold one this spring that I trained who has exceeded my success on him with his new owners.
At the end of the day his natural style when he really started working the pattern didn't fit my style. We could lay down good solid runs but I couldn't quite dial in the sweet spot on him between too much and not enough hussle. It's been really cool to watch him step up to the next level with the new owners though. |
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Location: midwest mama | rodeomom3 - 2016-07-12 8:33 AM
Is this the same one that you sent to the dressage trainer? All my horses are better than me and I like it that way-I just keep my hand in the middle and stay out of their way. I don't feel bad or guilty not running them in the 1D like my girls did.
Nope - different horse.
Challenges, challenges........ LOL |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | OldSchoolCowgirl - 2016-07-12 10:16 AM rodeomom3 - 2016-07-12 8:33 AM Is this the same one that you sent to the dressage trainer? All my horses are better than me and I like it that way-I just keep my hand in the middle and stay out of their way. I don't feel bad or guilty not running them in the 1D like my girls did. Nope - different horse. Challenges, challenges........ LOL
I bump your other thread up about this problem your having, that others have giving you a good suggestion on what to do. |
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Location: South Dakota | No answers, sorry. I'm hoping someone else out there has ideas though, cause it would sure be a shame to sell him. |
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| I feel that if your a reel good trainer that you should be able to chose how fast that horse runs even if he wants to go faster. good luck. |
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| Yup! Happens to all of mine. When they get to that point I hand them off to my daughters to run. It's not that I cannot ride them, cause I certainly could if I called up some aggression, however I've just come to the point in my life where I like to get them started and when they become consistent and clocking about a second off I'll step off them and let the kids jockey them. I like to see if my training holds and I love to watch them go on and win with them. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | It has happened to me, I just sent it to a dressage trainer to slow it back down
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| If you don't want to send him back to slow work, which it doesn't sound like you need to, try breezing him. It gives you a chance to catch up with his speed without turns or getting pitched out of the saddle. |
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Location: Texas | How about getting a Magic Seat to give yourself just that little bit of security until you feel more comfortable? |
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| I have full brothers that are grandsons of Hez A Fastman two of them I trained both and can not ride either. My son is ridding one Aand the daughter in law rides the other. No matter what anyone says I do not want to ride these horses they are not fun to me. I do not like that much speed and I am not ashamed to say so.
Sell the horse and get something you enjoy riding. |
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Location: Kansas | 1DSoon - 2016-07-12 1:58 PM It has happened to me, I just sent it to a dressage trainer to slow it back down
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| Oh yea. I have one now. Hard running, hard setting mare. Gritty. Could win rodeos. Not with me. I don't think I could ever sell her though as she is my daughters horse and my go to horse for novice riders. Just gets frustrating knowing that I am holding her back. |
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| I dont think it is so much holding the horse back from potential. I think if the horse hurts your confidence, and makes you feel like less of a rider/trainer because he has exceeded your expectations, then yes sell. But I dont see why you can't keep riding him and just asking for a little more rate until you get more comfortable. And like the other poster said about syle, I agree. It might just be that his running style is more challenging, which does not mean that there is anything wrong with you, he may just need a different type of rider. Every rider has a style, and so does every horse. I just really think if this horse is just "harder" to ride but still makes you feel good when you run, then keep him; but if he hurts your confidence then sell him to someone that will better fit him. |
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Location: midwest mama | Anyone else? |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Maybe get someone to jockey him for you. |
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| I have one that I held back. I still have her as she is extremely fun to go out and ride any where. I do not like to ride in the back yard once they are trustworthy. She take care of me and anyone else on the mesa, in the mountains, through water, plus pony other possible projects. I trained her. She is 15 now and I will never sell her. Have been looking for another to fill her shoes. These horses are really hard to find or really cost a bunch. Maybe find someone else to run her, get a slower one, or slow her down and gradually increase speed. Go to a clinic for help. I have as you never stop learning. Go with your gut |
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Location: Louisiana | RocketPilot - 2016-07-12 5:44 PM
How about getting a Magic Seat to give yourself just that little bit of security until you feel more comfortable?
I really want to try a magic seat on one of mine. He is just so powerful and I have put a few pounds on that have affected my balance a little. The main thing is my confidence has taken a hit after a fall. I can ride him up until the announcer says my name then I just clam up.
But my husband is against it and thinks I just need to work out and ride more often. Which he's probably right...
On one hand I think it'll help me get over this bump in the road with my confidence in my ability. But on the other I'm afraid it'll become a crutch I'll be afraid to go without.
This horse is fast and I CAN slow him down without a fight, but then he kinda goes into practice mode and doesn't try. |
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| Yes.
Well I bought one that is out of my league.
I just keep holding on and going down the road. How else are you supposed to get better? :D |
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| I don't train, I get them from the trainer, mess them up then send them back.
HOWEVER, I bought a horse once that was finished but not seasoned, super smooth. You didn't realize how fast you were going. I'm a senior rider, in my mid-50's then...and not Mary Burger! Anyway, after about a year of hauling him, I knew I was doing nothing for him. Found someone who had a horse that wasn't quite fast enough for her, and did a straight across trade. Best deal I ever made.
She was probably 10 or so years younger than me, and totaled pleased with the horse. I was totally pleased with my guy as well. That was 7 years ago, he's still in the family, grandaughter rides him. He takes such good care of her. Wonderful own son of Bully Bullion.
Not sure of your age and speed comfort, but when you're a little long in the tooth and you're not Mary Burger or June Holeman, but you love to go, get what you like and can have fun with.
Have a good week everyone. |
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Location: Montana | No, but I have sure raised a lot of them . . . . |
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Location: OH-IO | Happened to me!!!!!!
?Put a good 3-4 years on him. He was completely finished and ready to go....but was not for me! But the girl I sold him to ended up winning it all on him and doing very well! And honestly I think I was more happy seeing someone do so good on something I raised then I would have ever been doing it myself. He had a very distinct character about him and everyone knew him-and everyone knew where he came from...so It made it totally worth it when you have people coming up to you telling you what a great horse you made and how good you of a job you did! |
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| Story of my life...my horse goes faster than I can react/set up for the first barrel. Can slow work beautifully, but when I make a run I either throw him to the wolves and fall forward/don't check, or pull up and way too hard while falling forward. So we either blow it, or stop! Second and third are picture perfect. Just looking to get myself figured out so I can help my horse to the first before we get those higher gears he has. He just has so much movement in his stride...going from push style to free runner has been hard for me!
Ugh, timing is hard on one that moves quick and still needs a little guidance. |
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| YEP!! Has happened a couple of times. Work has kept me from devoting a lot of time to showing and focusing on running and getting with one. I've come to accept that I'm a trainer, but not a great jockey. I love developing colts and can get one to my local 1D level fairly easy, but I cannot seem to get over the hump of doing well at the big shows. I lose some of my finesse and timing at top speed. 80-85% speed - I'm good. More than that, I don't do them justice. Speed doesn't bother me, it's my timing AT speed. I end up getting them to a certain point and then selling to someone that can take them further. It kinda bites..... but I've developed horses that have won the NBHA youth world, Congress top 5, National Circuit qualifier, and Super show winners with the next person I sold them to. I take pride in what I've trained, and I enjoy seeing them go on, but I sure do wish I was riding them when they won. |
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Anyone Ever Train A Barrel Horse That Ended Up Being Way Faster Than You Can Ride?