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| Does everyone do this to every mare they're running or only if you suspect they're sucking air? Can you always hear them if they are sucking air? What other symptoms do they have if sucking air? I have a 6yo mare im running that always seems to lift her tail or hold it out. I keep her on Progesterone shots once a week to keep her from cycle as she seems to come in heat or at least act like she's in more often than normal. Just wondering if sewing her up would help? Thanks for any input. ?? |
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| My mare would make a slight noise when running and would also hold her tail out. I noticed she wouldn't stride out like I knew she could. We had a caslicks done and now her noise has stopped, hold her tail lower when running, and her times have really improved. She never did good in outdoor pens and now she is really running. I don't regret doing it at all! |
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       Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Every mare that comes in our barn gets caslicks done. If they are suckling air they can get really sore. |
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| A track vet once told me that if you did anything with a mare at a high rate of speed or if they are splitting the legs in a turn, you are stupid not to get a caslick's. He was shocked at how few barrel racers do it.
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| I tend to ride mares and they get sewn up. ALL of them... It's cheap and can eliminate a lot of issues before they start and become habits.... |
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| I tend to ride mares and they get sewn up. ALL of them... It's cheap and can eliminate a lot of issues before they start and become habits.... |
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | I am always astounded when this subject comes up at the number of people that do not keep caslicks in their mares. It is not an expensive or invasive procedure and a fairly cheap investment in their general and reproductive health and often times enhances performance. A no brainer!!! |
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| I always thought it was just normal, common practice to have all running mares stitched. When I brought it up to one of my vets, she looked at me like I had 3 heads! I have a mare now that isn't stitched but when I start running her, she definitely will be getting it done. I can't see why you wouldn't? |
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          Location: Kentucky | I must be the odd one out. I run a mare and I've never had a reason to get her sewn up. My broodmare has a caslick, but not the mare I run. She's never given me a reason to need one. |
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          Location: You never know where I will show up...... | We sew every one of our competition mares up. |
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    Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Is this a problem in maiden mares. I have one that is 4 and another that is 10 and they don't seem to have problems. |
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       Location: In The Snow, AZ | My mare isn't sewn up, and I've never noticed any issues. Since it was brought up, I asked several people I know if their mares are, and not a single one is. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I have known alot of mares and mares running now and being roped off of that never been sewn {caslicks}. Never did they have problems. |
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       Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | I'm with Bingo and Murphy....I don't have my two mares sewed up. The one is in foal now so she'll likely end up with caslicks after foaling but the other mare doesn't seem to wind suck or have problems so I've never even considered doing it on her at this point. But now I'm curious and wondering if it could help her. I guess I've never considered it as a preventative unless there was an abnormality of the angle to where infection could become an issue....interesting topic. |
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| I've never had a mare sewn up but now that I'm running all mares I'm becoming more observant to issues & learning more about this. A lot depends on the confirmation of the too-too area. The mare I had sewn up this week has a long vulva and when she poops, especially when I haul her and her poop
Is looser than normal a lot of it (poop) will hit or run down her vulva which can cause contamination if it gets inside. She also has been sore in her lower back which makes me wonder if from sucking air. My 4yo has a shorter vulva but at the bottom her lips open slightly, again causing possible contamination. It's not that expensive so I decided to do it as a preventative and see if it makes any difference in the way either run.
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          Location: You never know where I will show up...... | As a breeder, we do all of our own repro work here. Some of the worst uterine infections I've seen have been in maiden mares. All I run are mares, so for the sake of hopefully eliminating risk of contamination, I am doing what I can to increase the odds of a successful breeding career later on in that mare's life. Or in our case, we flush embryos from the mares we are currently running, so I like to keep them sewn up and keep them clean. |
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| How much of an opening is beneficial to a tail swisher. I have heard leave them open an inch. I guess most vets don't stitch them up enough. Opinions please. Thanks! |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | I've had my mare almost 10 years. Never sewn. I've never had a problem. I rope on her.
Edited by IRunOnFaith 2017-03-24 8:11 AM
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     Location: Texas | Your vet can evaluate her and check for a functioning vestibulovaginal seal and you can also part the vulvar lips and listen for air sounds before you go in. Also, if they have air in their vagina you can see it on ultrasound.
We put a caslicks in my 3YO just prophylactically because I don't want to have to second guess in the future when she starts running. It's an easy and quick procedure. |
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      Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | I run mostly mares and so far i have only had 1 done...i get my vet to check when im at the clinic and he says ya or na..so i go with that...m |
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| Most of mine are (running or brood) need to do the rest. |
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| I run a mare that isn't caslick, but she stays sore in her lower back. Do you guys think this could be the reason? I've never heard her suck air, but if she slightly did would it be noticeable? What other symptoms does mares normally show that need to be sewed up?
Sorry for all the questions! I normally run geldings, and the mares I've ran in the past were already sewed up before I bought them. |
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        Location: Pacific Northwest | How much does this usually cost? My mare doesn't have one. She never swishes her tail or has soreness related to her back or being in heat, so I never thought about it. She's the only mare I've ever ran, so I forget these things. She gets her teeth done today so I suppose I could ask my vet if she's familiar with the procedure. |
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    Location: NE TX | I ran my mare for 1.5 years before doing a caslicks on her and I will never run a mare without it again. It helps so much in my opinion. I also have my mare on progesterone now and she does still come into heat in spring time but NOTHING like she used to do. I have her on 1.5cc IM every other week. |
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| Ed Wright once told me he got every mare done and they all should be and I do have a mare with terrible "back end" conformation that I got sewn up but my main mare isn't. She's built well and I never have had a reason to |
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  Location: Wyoming | Mine would get terrible infections and I could hear her sucking air while running in the pasture. Got her sewn up, treated her infection and have had zero issues since. |
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