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| Hi have a mare that has a displaced soft palate. Any experience with what works? Vet recommended tying her tongue down. Looking into any respiratory supplements, but not sure if it's worth it. |
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Location: USA | look at the WTP bits... they are used for displacing.
http://www.iiwinners.com/WTP/bits.html
Edited by Lookin For Diamonds 2016-07-27 3:39 PM
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Tongue tie |
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| Thank you! I'll take a look :) |
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Location: WI | There's a procedure they can do for relatively reasonable. Do that and be done with it |
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Location: Loco,Ok | I made a few for these type problems. TMJ,broken jaw. Clampitt Hackamores |
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Location: Texas | I would consider doing the Tie Forward surgical procedure if you want the best odds of correcting it. |
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| Not sure about the palate, but on the tongue tie, I'll chime in. I ride my mare with one, just a nice strip of gauze, lay flat under the tongue. Then criss cross it over the top of the tongue, then tie and knot the ends under the chin. Make sure it's not too tight, and that all the fabric lies in front of the bit.
Mine messed with it for a couple of rides, then just moved on. It doesn't affect how she responds to the bit, and she doesn't fight me putting the tie on. It's the last thing to go on before our ride, and the first thing to come off when our ride is done. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | classicpotatochip - 2016-07-29 1:24 PM
Not sure about the palate, but on the tongue tie, I'll chime in. I ride my mare with one, just a nice strip of gauze, lay flat under the tongue. Then criss cross it over the top of the tongue, then tie and knot the ends under the chin. Make sure it's not too tight, and that all the fabric lies in front of the bit.
Mine messed with it for a couple of rides, then just moved on. It doesn't affect how she responds to the bit, and she doesn't fight me putting the tie on. It's the last thing to go on before our ride, and the first thing to come off when our ride is done.
We use knee hi panty hose for the ones we have to tie tongues on. |
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| I don't think herbs are going to fix a physical deformity. Have the surgery done or see if tying the tongue will work for you. |
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Location: Northeast Texas | I'm curious to know some of the symptoms your horses displayed with this problem besides the obvious sounds. Ex: not clocking, running off, etc.
Edited by RileyBob 2016-07-31 10:57 PM
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Location: Piedmont, OK | There is not much to the WTP bit. If you have one that needs help in a turn or with whoa it is not much help. |
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Location: NE Texas | Herbs will not fix a deformity, but the displacement could be coming from many different causes, not necessarily a deformity. For my horse specifically, his displacement was due to his glottis being very heavy and vascular due to inflammation in his airways and mucous production. His airways were also very restricted due to mucous accumulation, therefore it was much liked a clogged artery in that when he tried to breathe, the harder he tried to breathe, the more air he'd try to force through an already constricted airway, which caused even more stress and mucous accumulation......it was a vicious cycle we had on our hands. The tie forward surgery was recommended to me due to the frequency at which my horse was displacing as shown on an exercise scope, however it didn't make sense to me that was what was causing my issue given everything else we'd been through with medications for COPD in the previous 3 months. It made more sense tome that the displacement was a result of the COPD, not the COPD being a result of the displacement, so I began looking further and did not proceed with the surgery.
That is when I found the Cur-OST product and Dr. Schell, who patiently explained to me the progression of things and how they were all tied together, but the displacement was more than likely due to his glottis being unable to function correctly due to the weight of it from the inflammation, vascularity, and mucous, and how once we got the inflammation under control and helped his immune system keep from over reacting to every single stimulant, we would have a better idea of whether or not we had a deformity or if there was an underlying condition.
For my horse, there was an underlying condition that was inflammation related. If the parts of the respiratory tract aren't able to function correctly due to inflammation or other issues that are related to a seperate condition, herbs can absolutely help get this under control.
That being said, there are some horses who's glottis appears to be too small to cover the opening, so they do displace more frequently. These would be candidates for the tongue tie or the Cornell collar. I don't personally use either now that the issue is controlled. |
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| I'm curious to know the symptoms as well. Do they all breath funny? My horse does not breath funny..
lately her tongue is showing..almost appearing to be larger than her mouth space.
I'm having issues turning one direction..have tried many resolutions. Have always wondered if it's in phyically related to something on her head. TMJ or otherwise. Any help is appreciated.
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Location: Northwest | I've tried Cur-ost (6+ months), WTP Bit, Cornell Collar etc etc etc. still dealing with it and considering the tie forward surgery. |
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Location: Texas | powerstroke power - 2017-08-22 12:39 PM
I'm curious to know the symptoms as well. Do they all breath funny? My horse does not breath funny..
lately her tongue is showing..almost appearing to be larger than her mouth space.
I'm having issues turning one direction..have tried many resolutions. Have always wondered if it's in phyically related to something on her head. TMJ or otherwise. Any help is appreciated.
Coughing, exercise intolerance, dysphagia (difficulty swallowing, so you may see food coming out the nose) are the most common |
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| A vet came up with a halter type device that put pressure under the horse's jaw to help prevent some form of breathing problem. A few race horse trainers tried it but it never became widely used. |
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Location: Northwest | BMW - 2017-08-28 4:59 PM
A vet came up with a halter type device that put pressure under the horse's jaw to help prevent some form of breathing problem. A few race horse trainers tried it but it never became widely used.
You may be referencing the Cornell Collar? I have one if anyone is looking to buy one. |
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Displaced Soft Palate, what works?