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Location: Minnesota | Ok I'll keep this as short as I can. I recently got a 5 yo gelding. He was used out in SD as a 2-4 yr old checking cows, branding, ect. He was then sold to a new rider as her first horse and Im not sure what she did to him but he has a few issues. I purchased him last week, and hes been doing really good. Weve just been working on getting soft in the face/giving to pressure/NOT trying to eat the clouds when he doesnt want to do something. That being said, last night I worked him in the outdoor arena. I understand hes not going to lope perfect circles overnight, but we were working at the trot, 60 foot circles, keeping his nose tucked in/collected. Every now at then he'd get a wild hair up his a** and once we got along the rail hed throw his nose in the air to the left and BOLT to the right. What is the best correction for this? I kept pressure on his nose and outside leg until we were going back in the right direction but Im curious if their is a better way to deal with this? He did it once at the lope and ABOUT unseated me. Please don't lay into me too harshly   |
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| Whichever way he stuck his nose out, I would pull him around hard in the opposite direction to throw his momentum off balance and get him redirected –then go to town doing circles. I would switch directions frequently to keep him moving balanced and listening to you. Then he probably needs lots of wet saddle blankets. I’m sure he was kept busy being used as a colt and didn’t have time to think of naughty things.. Now that he’s gotten it easy he’s looking for sh!t to get in to.
Lots of wet saddle blankets and making him use his brain ? Good luck with him!
**also make sure teeth are good and saddle fits..
Edited by veintiocho 2016-07-27 12:44 PM
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Location: Minnesota | veintiocho - 2016-07-27 12:26 PMWhichever way he stuck his nose out, I would pull him around hard in the opposite direction to throw his momentum off balance and get him redirected –then go to town doing circles. I would switch directions frequently to keep him moving balanced and listening to you. Then he probably needs lots of wet saddle blankets. I’m sure he was kept busy being used as a colt and didn’t have time to think of naughty things.. Now that he’s gotten it easy he’s looking for sh!t to get in to. Lots of wet saddle blankets and making him use his brain ? Good luck with him!**also make sure teeth are good and saddle fits.. Thank you! I was wondering which direction I would circle when he does this! I've only had 3 rides on him so far so I was hoping for some helpful hints! And saddle definitely fits and teeth have been done recently! :)
Edited by aquinnell 2016-07-27 1:24 PM
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Location: Deep South | I pull their face around which ever direction they choose to duck off to and work their tails off! If we're working circles to the right and they duck off left, fine we can go left and left is going to be miserable hell. Then after a minute or 2 I take them back to MY circle and show them that's the easiest route.
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Location: Minnesota | BamaCanChaser - 2016-07-27 1:30 PM I pull their face around which ever direction they choose to duck off to and work their tails off! If we're working circles to the right and they duck off left, fine we can go left and left is going to be miserable hell. Then after a minute or 2 I take them back to MY circle and show them that's the easiest route. It usually takes a MAX of three times and I don't have to correct them again.
ok! Im glad you guys are giving me the same opinion! Ill try that tonight and see what he does |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | How are his teeth..and some slow fence work would probably help him. ...m |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | mruggles - 2016-07-27 2:13 PM How are his teeth..and some slow fence work would probably help him. ...m
I wondered this too. I had one act like he was coming unbroke. Did the same thing you mentioned. He had a very small wolf tooth on one side. Had it pulled and within a couple of rides he was a new horse, a good horse. |
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| If you have a round pen you can put him in an o ring and check him loosely to the back girth on one side. I like to see the corner of there eye not much more bend than that, I'm not one for ripping there head off. |
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Location: Florida.. | tin can - 2016-07-27 9:57 PM If you have a round pen you can put him in an o ring and check him loosely to the back girth on one side. I like to see the corner of there eye not much more bend than that, I'm not one for ripping there head off. Im the same way .. I dont yank or rip them either...
I feel he might not be strong enough to hold collected work if he only does it once in a while..Id supple him and keep working him doing what your asking.. ignore it.. and move on with your work .... but personally I wouldnt yank them around.. I also dont work alot of circles constantly either..
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I agree about checking his teeth and making sure his wolf teeth had been taking out, I would also check to make sure theres no blind woft teeth if you cant see his wolf teeth or if you think they have been pulled already. |
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Location: Minnesota | He has had his teeth checked by a dentist and he is ok there. I did ride him last night and he was 10x better than the night before. It could be that he's just fresh, but he was a whole new horse. I am not a fan of yanking one around either, I just want him to stay soft in the face and not bolt off with me. He did duck off 1 time to the right and we then worked to the right for about a min and went back to the left at a trot and he was an angel. Im hoping that he just needs a little more riding time. I think he was pretty broke at one point and he just got spoiled sitting in a box stall on way too much feed and not being rode. |
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Location: Weatherford, Texas | If he was worked in the pasture he may be use to a tie down and has figured out that if he doesn't have one on then he can go where he wants.
I would put a looser tiedown on him until he quits that stuff. Not so tight that you restrict movement, but enough that when he tries to throw his nose he hits a barrier so he can't get it up to the point of you losing control. Then do all those drills mentioned so that he figures out he can't get away with it. And use a rope nose---no leather. You want him to feel it if he hits it.
****As an aside. I run a loose rope headsetter type tiedown on almost everything I run or train. You never know if they decide to get fresh or disrespectful and throw their nose. I have seen too many BROKE mature horses get a wild hair and either hurt themselves or someone else bc they are running and throw their nose to be a turd and run into something or someone. I don't like a tie down to hold one down, but it does stop them before they get to the point where they can't see where they are going. |
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