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Pricing a horse with anhidrosis
Barnmom
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 I have a nice LHDI gelding that doesn't sweat in our heat and humidity, he is miserable this time of year even with fans and misters.  This morning at 9:30 it was 89 degrees with a heat index of 103, the humidity just won't let it cool off at night.  I have tried everything, nothing works so I am considering trying to sell him to someone that lives in a better climate.
 
I know he will have to be cheap, but I don't really want to give him away.  He is 4 yrs old, big, nice bone, good bare feet, well broke and super quiet but not started on the pattern.  This breaks my heart to even be considering this because I raised him and he is super cool but my horses need to have a job other than barrels and he is useless for at least four months out of the year.  Would some of you up north even be willing to gamble on him and if so where should I price him?
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Barnmom - 2016-08-04 6:28 PM
 I have a nice LHDI gelding that doesn't sweat in our heat and humidity, he is miserable this time of year even with fans and misters.  This morning at 9:30 it was 89 degrees with a heat index of 103, the humidity just won't let it cool off at night.  I have tried everything, nothing works so I am considering trying to sell him to someone that lives in a better climate.


 


I know he will have to be cheap, but I don't really want to give him away.  He is 4 yrs old, big, nice bone, good bare feet, well broke and super quiet but not started on the pattern.  This breaks my heart to even be considering this because I raised him and he is super cool but my horses need to have a job other than barrels and he is useless for at least four months out of the year.  Would some of you up north even be willing to gamble on him and if so where should I price him?


I have a friend here and has a mare with the same problem, she has tried to give her to me and see if I can do anything for her, but no I dont want a horse that has a problem, I had one befor and its just alot of work and money to get them to sweat, I can do it and have the money but its just something I dont wont to have to deal with again, she has tryed to even give her away to some of her friends up north but same old story, anybody that has dealt with this just dont wont to deal with it. I dont think you'll get much out of him if you do try to sell him, I dont know of anybody that would even want one thats free. I feel so sorry for horses like this, poor things. Its just so much stress for the owners and horses, good luck.,..
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What do you do to get them to sweat?  I would do just about anything at this point, he is worth it. 
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I would try the Equiwinner Patches. They will not break the bank, and I have a ton of friends that's have had success with them. I use them on my three late spring every year and I am very happy with the results. One of mine used to tie-up sporadically and he has not once since I started using the patches. They have a whole section on non-sweating you can read about. It sounds like might be worth $140 and 10 days to see if he improves!
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Back in the day I would give my non sweater dark beer and hose him off all the time, I lived in the Rio Granda Valley and the heat there is just as bad as where you live. Stayed in the shade all day with a fan, I got some kind of med from my vet that would help out some he would sweat a few days then quit, I cant remember what the med was at the time it was so long ago, but I would do lots of hosing..But now adays there is different meds that you can get from vets and theres some supplements out there to. Have you tryed googling to see what all the ideals is there to help out you horse?
I just kept at it with mine and then just out of no where he stared sweating again after months and months. I just rode him late in the evenings and nights when he did start sweating again, I had him a long time but was just carefull with what I did with him and always kept an eye on him during the summer, he just didnt get rode as much. 
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How long has your horse been a non sweater Barnmom? Did he just start this? 
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Since he was a yearling, I've tried the patches (twice), beer, salt, One AC, Platinum Refresh, let em sweat, Mega Sweat...... probably other stuff too.  I may try accupuncture with a different vet, tried it once and he hated it and actually got worse but she was very new to the art (think online course) so I quit doing that.?
 
I just saw where Jolene and Molli Montgomery built an insulated stall with AC, does any one know them to see if it is working?  I think if I could just keep him cool for part of the day he could handle the heat at night and early morning.
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Barnmom - 2016-08-04 7:35 PM
Since he was a yearling, I've tried the patches (twice), beer, salt, One AC, Platinum Refresh, let em sweat, Mega Sweat...... probably other stuff too.  I may try accupuncture with a different vet, tried it once and he hated it and actually got worse but she was very new to the art (think online course) so I quit doing that.?


 


I just saw where Jolene and Molli Montgomery built an insulated stall with AC, does any one know them to see if it is working?  I think if I could just keep him cool for part of the day he could handle the heat at night and early morning.


Dang, you have been at this a long time with him since yearling age, poor guy, hes got a really good mom to be hanging with him this long. I wonder if you could find a fan thats a water cooler and try that, they are really nice to have around my husband has one in his shop and parks it in front of the cars are trucks hes working on.  I think I saw that Smartpack has a supplement also, I'll see what I can find. 
 
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I found a Forum thats called The Chronicle of The Horse and theres a thread about anhidrosis, it pretty insteresting to read.  
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I used to have a non-sweater.   I tried the One-AC and that worked a little bit, but not enough to make it worth buying all the time.  I tried dark beer, and that worked a little bit as well, but again, not enough to make it worth buying all the time.  A vet once told me to try a mixture of salt and lite salt and that did the trick.  But I really think every horse is different.  You really have to keep trying different things until you find out what works best.  
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Barnmom - 2016-08-04 7:35 PM

Since he was a yearling, I've tried the patches (twice), beer, salt, One AC, Platinum Refresh, let em sweat, Mega Sweat...... probably other stuff too.  I may try accupuncture with a different vet, tried it once and he hated it and actually got worse but she was very new to the art (think online course) so I quit doing that.?
 
I just saw where Jolene and Molli Montgomery built an insulated stall with AC, does any one know them to see if it is working?  I think if I could just keep him cool for part of the day he could handle the heat at night and early morning.

I had 1 quit sweating 3 summers ago. My vet, in Beaumont, TX, makes a sweat mix that he suggested I try. That with One AC had the mare sweating in about a week. But she wouldnt sweat on just one or the other product. Had to be the combo of the 2. She breathes harder than most horses now but has kept sweating.
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Since he was a yearling, I've tried the patches (twice), beer, salt, One AC, Platinum Refresh, let em sweat, Mega Sweat...... probably other stuff too.  I may try accupuncture with a different vet, tried it once and he hated it and actually got worse but she was very new to the art (think online course) so I quit doing that.?


 


I just saw where Jolene and Molli Montgomery built an insulated stall with AC, does any one know them to see if it is working?  I think if I could just keep him cool for part of the day he could handle the heat at night and early morning.

Dang, you have been at this a long time with him since yearling age, poor guy, hes got a really good mom to be hanging with him this long. I wonder if you could find a fan thats a water cooler and try that, they are really nice to have around my husband has one in his shop and parks it in front of the cars are trucks hes working on.  I think I saw that Smartpack has a supplement also, I'll see what I can find. 

 

I looked last night and found some smaller port a cool fans for 5-700, may try that, I thought they were all around $3000, didn't know they had smaller ones.  What is so strange about this horse is that he has 4 siblings and they all sweat great, not sure why he drew the short straw, poor guy. 
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KKCOWGIRL - 2016-08-05 6:50 AM I used to have a non-sweater.   I tried the One-AC and that worked a little bit, but not enough to make it worth buying all the time.  I tried dark beer, and that worked a little bit as well, but again, not enough to make it worth buying all the time.  A vet once told me to try a mixture of salt and lite salt and that did the trick.  But I really think every horse is different.  You really have to keep trying different things until you find out what works best.  

That is the combo that works best for him, he was actually sweating a little on his neck, chest and between his legs if I rode him after dark, he didn't totally stop sweating until the last week of July this year.  All bets are off if I ride after the sun starts coming up though. 
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Since he was a yearling, I've tried the patches (twice), beer, salt, One AC, Platinum Refresh, let em sweat, Mega Sweat...... probably other stuff too.  I may try accupuncture with a different vet, tried it once and he hated it and actually got worse but she was very new to the art (think online course) so I quit doing that.?


 


I just saw where Jolene and Molli Montgomery built an insulated stall with AC, does any one know them to see if it is working?  I think if I could just keep him cool for part of the day he could handle the heat at night and early morning.

I had 1 quit sweating 3 summers ago. My vet, in Beaumont, TX, makes a sweat mix that he suggested I try. That with One AC had the mare sweating in about a week. But she wouldnt sweat on just one or the other product. Had to be the combo of the 2. She breathes harder than most horses now but has kept sweating.

What is your vets name? 
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Barnmom - 2016-08-04 6:35 PM

Since he was a yearling, I've tried the patches (twice), beer, salt, One AC, Platinum Refresh, let em sweat, Mega Sweat...... probably other stuff too.  I may try accupuncture with a different vet, tried it once and he hated it and actually got worse but she was very new to the art (think online course) so I quit doing that.?
 
I just saw where Jolene and Molli Montgomery built an insulated stall with AC, does any one know them to see if it is working?  I think if I could just keep him cool for part of the day he could handle the heat at night and early morning.

Bravo to you for putting so much effort into trying to make your horse comfortable!!
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I have a horse that just started doing this in the last three weeks, never heard of this happening to a horse before. Slowly since about the middle of June her sweating was decreasing but it didn't occur to me anything was wrong because I do my best to ride her late at night. Up until three weeks ago she was a horse never had any problems related to sweating, so this ordeal has been a total shock. I bought the Mega Sweat and should have it on Monday to start her on, hoping it is something that will work for her. And she has been on electrolytes for the past three weeks as well but it hasn't made any difference for her.
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I have never had a horse with this condition. if a horse has this and is ridden will there be no sweat where the saddle was?
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Barnmom - 2016-08-04 7:35 PM
Since he was a yearling, I've tried the patches (twice), beer, salt, One AC, Platinum Refresh, let em sweat, Mega Sweat...... probably other stuff too.  I may try accupuncture with a different vet, tried it once and he hated it and actually got worse but she was very new to the art (think online course) so I quit doing that.?


 


I just saw where Jolene and Molli Montgomery built an insulated stall with AC, does any one know them to see if it is working?  I think if I could just keep him cool for part of the day he could handle the heat at night and early morning.

I had 1 quit sweating 3 summers ago. My vet, in Beaumont, TX, makes a sweat mix that he suggested I try. That with One AC had the mare sweating in about a week. But she wouldnt sweat on just one or the other product. Had to be the combo of the 2. She breathes harder than most horses now but has kept sweating.

What is your vets name? 

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kwanatha - 2016-08-05 12:33 PM I have never had a horse with this condition. if a horse has this and is ridden will there be no sweat where the saddle was?

Mine does not have any sweat marks anywhere under the saddle pad, girths, or breast collar. Not even around her poll/ears where her headstall sets.
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Since he was a yearling, I've tried the patches (twice), beer, salt, One AC, Platinum Refresh, let em sweat, Mega Sweat...... probably other stuff too.  I may try accupuncture with a different vet, tried it once and he hated it and actually got worse but she was very new to the art (think online course) so I quit doing that.?


 


I just saw where Jolene and Molli Montgomery built an insulated stall with AC, does any one know them to see if it is working?  I think if I could just keep him cool for part of the day he could handle the heat at night and early morning.

Bravo to you for putting so much effort into trying to make your horse comfortable!!

I second this ^^^  
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kwanatha - 2016-08-05 12:33 PM I have never had a horse with this condition. if a horse has this and is ridden will there be no sweat where the saddle was?
Mine does not have any sweat marks anywhere under the saddle pad, girths, or breast collar. Not even around her poll/ears where her headstall sets.

Thanks, that is just not a big problem where i live. feel so lucky. Hope the OP finds a resolution
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kwanatha - 2016-08-05 12:33 PM I have never had a horse with this condition. if a horse has this and is ridden will there be no sweat where the saddle was?
Mine does not have any sweat marks anywhere under the saddle pad, girths, or breast collar. Not even around her poll/ears where her headstall sets.
Thanks, that is just not a big problem where i live. feel so lucky. Hope the OP finds a resolution

 I have one with anhydrosis and he sweats under his saddle and flanks.  Sweat under manes  or tack does not mean they are sweating good.  They have to sweat on their neck, head, etc 
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Most will still sweat under saddle and mane.. he cant cool down basically and his body temp will go up.... best thing for him is to send north.. the climate change and low humidity will do him wonders and usually most horses once living in cooler climates with low humidity thrive and do well and lead very active lifes.. thats what we usually do is try to sell up north clients.. have had a lil success with accupuncture but its not a cure..
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I know that no one will read this so probably a waste of time. I have been dealing with a horse that does not sweat for about 7 or 8 years now. This is what I have found works best for my horse. It is extremely easy. Having tried beer(which my horse will not touch), OneAC, Platinum Refresh. Make sure you start using OneAC or Refresh BEFORE the temperatures start getting hot. I live in NE TX and I start about the middle of April. Seriously, this is the key. Somehow I let the hot weather slip up on me this year and I did not start OneAC until mid June. I have had a problem this year because of my own stupidity. My horse just started sweating about two days ago. I will say that just a few miles east of me the temperatures have gotten intense and are worse but once again the key is starting the meds mid April.
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I have tried starting the supplements as early as March, never helped my guy.  If I can't get him sold to someone in a better climate  I will try accupuncture next May. 
?My horse does not sweat under the saddle when its hot, even when he sweats some on his chest and neck, he will only get little streaks of sweat around his withers under the saddle. 
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How long have you been dealing with this?
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Since the summer of his yearling year, he is four now. 
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My friend has 2 non- sweaters she swears by Equine Omega Complete
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Well yesterday while I was bringing up my horses for the evening I noticed one of mine was really huffing, so cooled him off by hoseing him off with cool water then he was fine after that. This heat is really getting to them, cant wait till fall weather.
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Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-06 4:20 PM Well yesterday while I was bringing up my horses for the evening I noticed one of mine was really huffing, so cooled him off by hoseing him off with cool water then he was fine after that. This heat is really getting to them, cant wait till fall weather.

I hear ya, the first cool front can't come soon enough!
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Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-06 4:20 PM Well yesterday while I was bringing up my horses for the evening I noticed one of mine was really huffing, so cooled him off by hoseing him off with cool water then he was fine after that. This heat is really getting to them, cant wait till fall weather.
I hear ya, the first cool front can't come soon enough!

How is your boy doing today? I think its been hotter then normal these past couple of days.  
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streakysox - 2016-08-05 11:01 PM

I know that no one will read this so probably a waste of time. I have been dealing with a horse that does not sweat for about 7 or 8 years now. This is what I have found works best for my horse. It is extremely easy. Having tried beer(which my horse will not touch), OneAC, Platinum Refresh. Make sure you start using OneAC or Refresh BEFORE the temperatures start getting hot. I live in NE TX and I start about the middle of April. Seriously, this is the key. Somehow I let the hot weather slip up on me this year and I did not start OneAC until mid June. I have had a problem this year because of my own stupidity. My horse just started sweating about two days ago. I will say that just a few miles east of me the temperatures have gotten intense and are worse but once again the key is starting the meds mid April.

This what I have read, too. Start The supplements before the heat.
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Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-06 4:20 PM Well yesterday while I was bringing up my horses for the evening I noticed one of mine was really huffing, so cooled him off by hoseing him off with cool water then he was fine after that. This heat is really getting to them, cant wait till fall weather.
I hear ya, the first cool front can't come soon enough!
How is your boy doing today? I think its been hotter then normal these past couple of days.  

Puffing unless I hose him off, of course we have several sweaty broodmares standing in the shade puffing, its just too hot!
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Everyone's horses are heaving right now. All of mine are and I think it is a combination of heat and humidity. My equine dentist was posting about her horses heaving. (SE TX)


I didn't think of this but it sure has helped my horse. I give all of my horses about 2 tablespoons of salt in their feed once a day. My non sweater is also my picky eater. He would leave to salt in his trough at first but cleans it up now. I just kept putting the salt in his feed. I feed all my horses salt in their feed year round to make sure they drinkenough water especially in the winter.
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The heat and Humidity has taken a toll on all the horses.. we put misters out in pastures, bring oldies in under misters and fans , and just try to get them comfortble until it passes. if you feed sweet feed Id back off it..

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Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-06 4:20 PM Well yesterday while I was bringing up my horses for the evening I noticed one of mine was really huffing, so cooled him off by hoseing him off with cool water then he was fine after that. This heat is really getting to them, cant wait till fall weather.
I hear ya, the first cool front can't come soon enough!
How is your boy doing today? I think its been hotter then normal these past couple of days.  

Puffing unless I hose him off, of course we have several sweaty broodmares standing in the shade puffing, its just too hot!

My big gelding's ears are even drooping the last week or so. . . . They all look so so miserable
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CarrieH77
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2016-08-08 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: Pricing a horse with anhidrosis



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I don't know how you guys do it down there...I live up in MN and we only have about 2 weeks out of the year it is really bad so horses can stay in under fans and be pretty comfortable.  I know it gets cold here but I deal with it way easier than the heat.   
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2016-08-08 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: Pricing a horse with anhidrosis



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CarrieH77 - 2016-08-08 8:51 AM I don't know how you guys do it down there...I live up in MN and we only have about 2 weeks out of the year it is really bad so horses can stay in under fans and be pretty comfortable.  I know it gets cold here but I deal with it way easier than the heat.   

Do you know anyone that wants a nice bred, well broke, palomino gelding?
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SmokinGirlie
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2016-08-08 1:01 PM
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You may want to check with Cur-OST, they were just looking for a anhidrosis horse !
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